Immortal Romance

[ChopleyIOM]

Today's session, carried over from last night.

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5th Jan 2013:

£117.14p bankroll carried over from yesterday.

2434 spins before bust. Didn't meet wagering, high point of £164 but couldn't withdraw.

Wild Desires =

One = 2 wild, zero win.

Two = 2+4 wild, 30x stake win.

Three = 3 wild, 0.5x stake win.

Four = 3+5 wild, 30x stake win.

Five = 4 wild, zero win.

Highest reel win = 122x stake.

Bonus round one (Amber) paid 174x stake. (Retriggered.)

Bonus round two (Michael) paid 32.5x stake.

Bonus round three (Troy) paid 8x stake.

Bonus round four (Sarah) paid 26x stake.

Bonus round five (Amber) paid 9.5x stake.

Bonus round six (Troy) paid 24x stake.

Bonus round seven (Sarah) paid 44x stake.

Bonus round eight (Sarah) paid 32x stake.

Bonus round nine (Amber) paid 36.5x stake.

Bonus round ten (Michael) paid 35x stake.

Bonus round eleven (Michael) paid 43x stake.

Bonus round twelve (Troy) paid 7x stake.

Bonus round thirteen (Amber) paid 13.5x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 4813 spins for twenty-five bonus rounds. Highest win 213x stake. 192.5 spins on average for a bonus round.

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[b]IR play at 32Red.[/b]

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[b]31st Dec 2012:[/b]

£10 deposit + 200% bonus = £30 bankroll. Didn't meet wagering. (Was never in profit.)

630 spins before bust.

No bonus round.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 630 spins for zero bonus rounds.

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[b]1st Jan 2013:[/b]

£50 deposit = £50 bankroll. Never in profit.

358 spins before bust.

Wild Desires = Zero.

Bonus round one (Michael) paid 18x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 988 spins for one bonus round. Highest win 18x stake.

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[b]3rd Jan 2013 (tracking better stats from here on in):[/b]

£50 deposit + 25% bonus = £62.50 bankroll. Didn't meet wagering. (Was never in profit.)

617 spins before bust.

Wild Desires = Zero.

Highest reel win = 38.5x stake.

Bonus round one (Sarah) paid 10.5x stake.

Bonus round two (Michael) paid 21x stake.

Bonus round three (Amber) paid 22x stake.

Bonus round four (Troy) paid 32.5x stake.

Bonus round five (Troy) paid 56x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 1605 spins for six bonus rounds. Highest win 56x stake. 267.5 spins on average for a bonus round.

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[b]4th Jan 2013:[/b]

£50 deposit + 100% bonus = £100 bankroll.

774 spins, carried over £117.14p to next session. £232 wagered. (Wagering requirement not met.)

Wild Desires = 

One = 2+4 wild, zero win.

Two = 3 wild, 10x stake win.

Highest reel win = 92x stake.

Bonus round one (Sarah) paid 10x stake.

Bonus round two (Sarah) paid 38x stake.

Bonus round three (Troy) paid 10x stake.

Bonus round four (Amber) paid 213x stake.

Bonus round five (Amber) paid 21x stake.

Bonus round six (Michael) paid 55x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 2379 spins for twelve bonus rounds. Highest win 213x stake. 198.25 spins on average for a bonus 

round.

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[b]5th Jan 2013:[/b]

£117.14p bankroll carried over from yesterday.

2434 spins before bust. Didn't meet wagering, high point of £164 but couldn't withdraw.

Wild Desires =

One = 2 wild, zero win.

Two = 2+4 wild, 30x stake win.

Three = 3 wild, 0.5x stake win.

Four = 3+5 wild, 30x stake win.

Five = 4 wild, zero win.

Highest reel win = 122x stake.

Bonus round one (Amber) paid 174x stake. (Retriggered.)

Bonus round two (Michael) paid 32.5x stake.

Bonus round three (Troy) paid 8x stake.

Bonus round four (Sarah) paid 26x stake.

Bonus round five (Amber) paid 9.5x stake.

Bonus round six (Troy) paid 24x stake.

Bonus round seven (Sarah) paid 44x stake.

Bonus round eight (Sarah) paid 32x stake.

Bonus round nine (Amber) paid 36.5x stake.

Bonus round ten (Michael) paid 35x stake.

Bonus round eleven (Michael) paid 43x stake.

Bonus round twelve (Troy) paid 7x stake.

Bonus round thirteen (Amber) paid 13.5x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 4813 spins for twenty-five bonus rounds. Highest win 213x stake. 192.5 spins on average for a 

bonus round.

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[dillos]

wow this slot is very tough..lately i don't win nothing decent from this slot and i think i'm unlucky but when i see these statistics i think it's normal for this slot ,now i know what high variance mean..please chopley take care don't go broke

 

[ChopleyIOM]

wow this slot is very tough..lately i don't win nothing decent from this slot and i think i'm unlucky but when i see these statistics i think it's normal for this slot ,now i know what high variance mean..please chopley take care don't go broke

In all fairness the last session wasn't too bad in terms of playtime from a £50 deposit.

Never even looked like getting close to making wagering though. (I wagered just under £1000 of a £1500 WR.)

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Awful!

Holy shit, check out the horror of today's 'session'.

Awful, awful stuff.

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6th Jan 2013:

£50 desposit + 50% bonus = £75 bankroll.

473 spins before bust. Didn't meet wagering. (Made just £141.90p of wagers, less than twice the bankroll!)

Wild Desires = Zero.

Highest reel win = 10x stake.

Bonus round one (Sarah) paid 25x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 5286 spins for twenty-six bonus rounds. Highest win 213x stake. 203.3 spins on average for a bonus round.

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[b]IR play at 32Red.[/b]

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[b]31st Dec 2012:[/b]

£10 deposit + 200% bonus = £30 bankroll. Didn't meet wagering. (Was never in profit.)

630 spins before bust.

No bonus round.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 630 spins for zero bonus rounds.

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[b]1st Jan 2013:[/b]

£50 deposit = £50 bankroll. Never in profit.

358 spins before bust.

Wild Desires = Zero.

Bonus round one (Michael) paid 18x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 988 spins for one bonus round. Highest win 18x stake.

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[b]3rd Jan 2013 (tracking better stats from here on in):[/b]

£50 deposit + 25% bonus = £62.50 bankroll. Didn't meet wagering. (Was never in profit.)

617 spins before bust.

Wild Desires = Zero.

Highest reel win = 38.5x stake.

Bonus round one (Sarah) paid 10.5x stake.

Bonus round two (Michael) paid 21x stake.

Bonus round three (Amber) paid 22x stake.

Bonus round four (Troy) paid 32.5x stake.

Bonus round five (Troy) paid 56x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 1605 spins for six bonus rounds. Highest win 56x stake. 267.5 spins on average for a bonus round.

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[b]4th Jan 2013:[/b]

£50 deposit + 100% bonus = £100 bankroll.

774 spins, carried over £117.14p to next session. £232 wagered. (Wagering requirement not met.)

Wild Desires = 

One = 2+4 wild, zero win.

Two = 3 wild, 10x stake win.

Highest reel win = 92x stake.

Bonus round one (Sarah) paid 10x stake.

Bonus round two (Sarah) paid 38x stake.

Bonus round three (Troy) paid 10x stake.

Bonus round four (Amber) paid 213x stake.

Bonus round five (Amber) paid 21x stake.

Bonus round six (Michael) paid 55x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 2379 spins for twelve bonus rounds. Highest win 213x stake. 198.25 spins on average for a bonus 

round.

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[b]5th Jan 2013:[/b]

£117.14p bankroll carried over from yesterday.

2434 spins before bust. Didn't meet wagering, high point of £164 but couldn't withdraw.

Wild Desires =

One = 2 wild, zero win.

Two = 2+4 wild, 30x stake win.

Three = 3 wild, 0.5x stake win.

Four = 3+5 wild, 30x stake win.

Five = 4 wild, zero win.

Highest reel win = 122x stake.

Bonus round one (Amber) paid 174x stake. (Retriggered.)

Bonus round two (Michael) paid 32.5x stake.

Bonus round three (Troy) paid 8x stake.

Bonus round four (Sarah) paid 26x stake.

Bonus round five (Amber) paid 9.5x stake.

Bonus round six (Troy) paid 24x stake.

Bonus round seven (Sarah) paid 44x stake.

Bonus round eight (Sarah) paid 32x stake.

Bonus round nine (Amber) paid 36.5x stake.

Bonus round ten (Michael) paid 35x stake.

Bonus round eleven (Michael) paid 43x stake.

Bonus round twelve (Troy) paid 7x stake.

Bonus round thirteen (Amber) paid 13.5x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 4813 spins for twenty-five bonus rounds. Highest win 213x stake. 192.5 spins on average for a 

bonus round.

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[b]6th Jan 2013:[/b]

£50 desposit + 50% bonus = £75 bankroll.

473 spins before bust. Didn't meet wagering. (Made just £141.90p of wagers, less than twice the bankroll!)

Wild Desires = Zero.

Highest reel win = 10x stake.

Bonus round one (Sarah) paid 25x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 5286 spins for twenty-six bonus rounds. Highest win 213x stake. 203.3 spins on average for a bonus round.

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[ecopac]

Ouch!

I had a good run on it today on the other hand. Exactly the same deposits but playing at 90p per spin, had around 12 bonuses biggest one paying £120 odd (all wild vine bonuses) and a big reel win of about £120, 2 wild desires one paying zero and the other £21

Had hours and hours of playtime and ended up with £350. I play the flash version at 32 red though so can't get stats like you.

Your luck will change soon Chop I'm sure!

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Your luck will change soon Chop I'm sure!

I hope so, this is starting to get expensive!

I had a very good run early on in December, which took my overall results for the last 18 months comfortably into positive territory (helped somewhat substantially overall by land-based AWPs), but even so, seeing deposit after deposit disappear without even a sniff of any sort of withdrawal, let alone a profit, is starting to get tiresome.

In fact, thinking back across 2012 overall, the kindest softwares were definitely NetEnt and Rival, did OK at Jackpot Party too.

MG hammered me though, and it looks like it's going that way again.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I emailed 32Red's CS to ask for my RTP since December 31st (which is basically 5286 spins on IR).

As ever I can't fault 32Red's CS as they got back me to within 30 minutes, but I don't like the numbers!

Oh well, I'll stick with it, hopefully I'll turn the corner sooner or later. At the end of the day 5286 spins on a high variance slot isn't a decent sample size, so what I'm experiencing is well within reasonable parameters.

Hi Alex,

I hope this email finds you well.

Your RTP from the 31st December for account 32RExxxyyyzzz currently sits at 78%

Should you need further assistance with your query, please do not hesitate to contact us.

 

[Nifty29]

Great thread guys. Keep it up....especially chops....nice work son

FWIW, I had a stab at this yesterday at 32Red, and hit 3 bonus rounds in 3 consecutive spins which has never happened before. I chose from left to right.....got what mother hubbard had in her cupboard on the amber and batshit rounds, but actually got a 150xbet on the gruelling reels feature which is unusual.

I give IR, and most slots for that matter, 50 spins for a bonus to hit or a big reel win. If it doesn't, I'm off like a bride's knickers. If it does happen, I start my 50 spins again etc etc.

My reasoning is that, if a slot is in a good mood, I'm going to pretty much know in short order. I've spent too many hours when I first started, grinding away at single games hoping for that big hit, which needed to be bigger and bigger as the spins and losses mounted up. Anyhoo, at least this way I get variety, and don't get that deflated feeling when you lose your wad on one game. It may not make a difference in the end, but as Doctor Who once said, "A straight line may well be the shortest distance between point A and point B, but it is by no means the most interesting".

 

[dunover]

I played this today, 60p and 90p a spin. Was 225 down when the batshit feature paid me 312x stake. I was at a small profit so got out quick.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Not a great session but at least it wasn't a bust. Still no sniff of a profit though.

I have also now added average bonus round win as a stat, tracked back to the first session.

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9th Jan 2013:

£50 desposit + 100% bonus = £100 bankroll.

806 spins, carried over £99.01 to next session. Wagering not met.

Wild Desires = Zero.

Highest reel win = 62.5x stake.

Bonus round one (Amber) paid 51x stake.

Bonus round two (Amber) paid 7x stake.

Bonus round three (Sarah) paid 32x stake.

Bonus round four (Michael) paid 73x stake.

Bonus round five (Troy) paid 49x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 6092 spins for thirty-one bonus rounds. Highest win 213x stake. 196.5 spins on average for a bonus round.

AVERAGE BONUS ROUND WIN = 39.6x stake.

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[b]IR play at 32Red.[/b]

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[b]31st Dec 2012:[/b]

£10 deposit + 200% bonus = £30 bankroll. Didn't meet wagering. (Was never in profit.)

630 spins before bust.

No bonus round.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 630 spins for zero bonus rounds.

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[b]1st Jan 2013:[/b]

£50 deposit = £50 bankroll. Never in profit.

358 spins before bust.

Wild Desires = Zero.

Bonus round one (Michael) paid 18x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 988 spins for one bonus round. Highest win 18x stake.

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[b]3rd Jan 2013 (tracking better stats from here on in):[/b]

£50 deposit + 25% bonus = £62.50 bankroll. Didn't meet wagering. (Was never in profit.)

617 spins before bust.

Wild Desires = Zero.

Highest reel win = 38.5x stake.

Bonus round one (Sarah) paid 10.5x stake.

Bonus round two (Michael) paid 21x stake.

Bonus round three (Amber) paid 22x stake.

Bonus round four (Troy) paid 32.5x stake.

Bonus round five (Troy) paid 56x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 1605 spins for six bonus rounds. Highest win 56x stake. 267.5 spins on average for a bonus round.

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[b]4th Jan 2013:[/b]

£50 deposit + 100% bonus = £100 bankroll.

774 spins, carried over £117.14p to next session. £232 wagered. (Wagering requirement not met.)

Wild Desires = 

One = 2+4 wild, zero win.

Two = 3 wild, 10x stake win.

Highest reel win = 92x stake.

Bonus round one (Sarah) paid 10x stake.

Bonus round two (Sarah) paid 38x stake.

Bonus round three (Troy) paid 10x stake.

Bonus round four (Amber) paid 213x stake.

Bonus round five (Amber) paid 21x stake.

Bonus round six (Michael) paid 55x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 2379 spins for twelve bonus rounds. Highest win 213x stake. 198.25 spins on average for a bonus 

round.

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[b]5th Jan 2013:[/b]

£117.14p bankroll carried over from yesterday.

2434 spins before bust. Didn't meet wagering, high point of £164 but couldn't withdraw.

Wild Desires =

One = 2 wild, zero win.

Two = 2+4 wild, 30x stake win.

Three = 3 wild, 0.5x stake win.

Four = 3+5 wild, 30x stake win.

Five = 4 wild, zero win.

Highest reel win = 122x stake.

Bonus round one (Amber) paid 174x stake. (Retriggered.)

Bonus round two (Michael) paid 32.5x stake.

Bonus round three (Troy) paid 8x stake.

Bonus round four (Sarah) paid 26x stake.

Bonus round five (Amber) paid 9.5x stake.

Bonus round six (Troy) paid 24x stake.

Bonus round seven (Sarah) paid 44x stake.

Bonus round eight (Sarah) paid 32x stake.

Bonus round nine (Amber) paid 36.5x stake.

Bonus round ten (Michael) paid 35x stake.

Bonus round eleven (Michael) paid 43x stake.

Bonus round twelve (Troy) paid 7x stake.

Bonus round thirteen (Amber) paid 13.5x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 4813 spins for twenty-five bonus rounds. Highest win 213x stake. 192.5 spins on average for a 

bonus round.

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[b]6th Jan 2013:[/b]

£50 desposit + 50% bonus = £75 bankroll.

473 spins before bust. Didn't meet wagering. (Made just £141.90p of wagers, less than twice the bankroll!)

Wild Desires = Zero.

Highest reel win = 10x stake.

Bonus round one (Sarah) paid 25x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 5286 spins for twenty-six bonus rounds. Highest win 213x stake. 203.3 spins on average for a 

bonus round.

AVERAGE BONUS ROUND WIN (1017/26) = 39x stake.

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[b]9th Jan 2013:[/b]

£50 desposit + 100% bonus = £100 bankroll.

806 spins, carried over £99.01 to next session. Wagering not met.

Wild Desires = Zero.

Highest reel win = 62.5x stake.

Bonus round one (Amber) paid 51x stake.

Bonus round two (Amber) paid 7x stake.

Bonus round three (Sarah) paid 32x stake.

Bonus round four (Michael) paid 73x stake.

Bonus round five (Troy) paid 49x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 6092 spins for thirty-one bonus rounds. Highest win 213x stake. 196.5 spins on average for a 

bonus round.

AVERAGE BONUS ROUND WIN = 39.6x stake.

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[Nifty29]

IMO, with IR, once you hit something nice, give it another 50 spins, and you get zip, then bail out. Continually playing it will drain you like a vampire.

I actually hit (at 32Red yesterday) 3 bonus rounds in 3 consecutive spins. Two paid under 20xbet, but the other paid 250xbet including 4 scatters on the Amber feature.

It's a "don't hang around" slot IMO.

 

[kktmd]

IMO, with IR, once you hit something nice, give it another 50 spins, and you get zip, then bail out.

RTP on spin immediately AFTER 10xbet win: 0.9414
RTP on spin immediately AFTER 60xbet win: 0.9509
RTP on spin immediately AFTER 100xbet win: 1.0972

based on 1.052.594 spins 30p freeplay, RTP: 0.9607

If you win x100, give it at least one last spin

 

[maphesto]

If you win x100, give it at least one last spin

What's the RTP on 20 spins immediately after x10, x60 and x100?

 

[ChopleyIOM]

IMO, with IR, once you hit something nice, give it another 50 spins, and you get zip, then bail out. Continually playing it will drain you like a vampire.

I actually hit (at 32Red yesterday) 3 bonus rounds in 3 consecutive spins. Two paid under 20xbet, but the other paid 250xbet including 4 scatters on the Amber feature.

It's a "don't hang around" slot IMO.

Thing is though Nifty, what you're saying there doesn't make any sense unless you happen to think it's not a truly random slot.

Yes it's a high variance slot, and as such needs to be treated like any other high variance in slot in terms of its ability to pay nothing or very little for an extended period of time - but other than that what's the difference between IR and any other high variance slot?

 

[Tirilej]

Thing is though Nifty, what you're saying there doesn't make any sense unless you happen to think it's not a truly random slot.

Yes it's a high variance slot, and as such needs to be treated like any other high variance in slot in terms of its ability to pay nothing or very little for an extended period of time - but other than that what's the difference between IR and any other high variance slot?

I remember you trying to beat The Argyle Open too not so long ago.

Whatever you are trying to prove or do I'm afraid that you will end up just as disappointed as you were at that time.

Stubborn can be good, but not always

 

[dunover]

Thing is though Nifty, what you're saying there doesn't make any sense unless you happen to think it's not a truly random slot.

Yes it's a high variance slot, and as such needs to be treated like any other high variance in slot in terms of its ability to pay nothing or very little for an extended period of time - but other than that what's the difference between IR and any other high variance slot?

Right, it just goes to show that even the black-and-white random brigade accept there's patterns in the slots' behaviour. It's funny you should post these stats, as I have noticed on several occasions this precise effect. A big win on the menstruation whatever feature followed by immediate feature entry (or vice versa) or large reel win. This occurs on TSII a lot too. But we all know they're totally random and there are only co-incidences and no patterns....

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Another truly depressing shitathon.

Let's look at the stats!

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10th Jan 2013:

£99.01 carried over from previous session.

1114 spins before bust. Didn't meet wagering. Didn't get over starting balance.

Wild Desires =

One = 4+5 wild, zero win.

Two = 2 wild, 0.7x stake win.

Highest reel win = 58x stake.

Bonus round one (Michael) paid 28x stake.

Bonus round two (Troy) paid 5x stake.

Bonus round three (Sarah) paid 63x stake.

Bonus round four (Amber) paid 66x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 7206 spins for thirty-five bonus rounds. Highest win 213x stake. 205.9 spins on average for a bonus round.

AVERAGE BONUS ROUND WIN (1391/35) = 39.7x stake.

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[b]IR play at 32Red.[/b]

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[b]31st Dec 2012:[/b]

£10 deposit + 200% bonus = £30 bankroll. Didn't meet wagering. (Was never in profit.)

630 spins before bust.

No bonus round.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 630 spins for zero bonus rounds.

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[b]1st Jan 2013:[/b]

£50 deposit = £50 bankroll. Never in profit.

358 spins before bust.

Wild Desires = Zero.

Bonus round one (Michael) paid 18x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 988 spins for one bonus round. Highest win 18x stake.

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[b]3rd Jan 2013 (tracking better stats from here on in):[/b]

£50 deposit + 25% bonus = £62.50 bankroll. Didn't meet wagering. (Was never in profit.)

617 spins before bust.

Wild Desires = Zero.

Highest reel win = 38.5x stake.

Bonus round one (Sarah) paid 10.5x stake.

Bonus round two (Michael) paid 21x stake.

Bonus round three (Amber) paid 22x stake.

Bonus round four (Troy) paid 32.5x stake.

Bonus round five (Troy) paid 56x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 1605 spins for six bonus rounds. Highest win 56x stake. 267.5 spins on average for a bonus round.

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[b]4th Jan 2013:[/b]

£50 deposit + 100% bonus = £100 bankroll.

774 spins, carried over £117.14p to next session. £232 wagered. (Wagering requirement not met.)

Wild Desires = 

One = 2+4 wild, zero win.

Two = 3 wild, 10x stake win.

Highest reel win = 92x stake.

Bonus round one (Sarah) paid 10x stake.

Bonus round two (Sarah) paid 38x stake.

Bonus round three (Troy) paid 10x stake.

Bonus round four (Amber) paid 213x stake.

Bonus round five (Amber) paid 21x stake.

Bonus round six (Michael) paid 55x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 2379 spins for twelve bonus rounds. Highest win 213x stake. 198.25 spins on average for a bonus 

round.

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[b]5th Jan 2013:[/b]

£117.14p bankroll carried over from yesterday.

2434 spins before bust. Didn't meet wagering, high point of £164 but couldn't withdraw.

Wild Desires =

One = 2 wild, zero win.

Two = 2+4 wild, 30x stake win.

Three = 3 wild, 0.5x stake win.

Four = 3+5 wild, 30x stake win.

Five = 4 wild, zero win.

Highest reel win = 122x stake.

Bonus round one (Amber) paid 174x stake. (Retriggered.)

Bonus round two (Michael) paid 32.5x stake.

Bonus round three (Troy) paid 8x stake.

Bonus round four (Sarah) paid 26x stake.

Bonus round five (Amber) paid 9.5x stake.

Bonus round six (Troy) paid 24x stake.

Bonus round seven (Sarah) paid 44x stake.

Bonus round eight (Sarah) paid 32x stake.

Bonus round nine (Amber) paid 36.5x stake.

Bonus round ten (Michael) paid 35x stake.

Bonus round eleven (Michael) paid 43x stake.

Bonus round twelve (Troy) paid 7x stake.

Bonus round thirteen (Amber) paid 13.5x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 4813 spins for twenty-five bonus rounds. Highest win 213x stake. 192.5 spins on average for a 

bonus round.

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[b]6th Jan 2013:[/b]

£50 desposit + 50% bonus = £75 bankroll.

473 spins before bust. Didn't meet wagering. (Made just £141.90p of wagers, less than twice the bankroll!)

Wild Desires = Zero.

Highest reel win = 10x stake.

Bonus round one (Sarah) paid 25x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 5286 spins for twenty-six bonus rounds. Highest win 213x stake. 203.3 spins on average for a 

bonus round.

AVERAGE BONUS ROUND WIN (1017/26) = 39x stake.

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[b]9th Jan 2013:[/b]

£50 desposit + 100% bonus = £100 bankroll.

806 spins, carried over £99.01 to next session. Wagering not met.

Wild Desires = Zero.

Highest reel win = 62.5x stake.

Bonus round one (Amber) paid 51x stake.

Bonus round two (Amber) paid 7x stake.

Bonus round three (Sarah) paid 32x stake.

Bonus round four (Michael) paid 73x stake.

Bonus round five (Troy) paid 49x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 6092 spins for thirty-one bonus rounds. Highest win 213x stake. 196.5 spins on average for a 

bonus round.

AVERAGE BONUS ROUND WIN (1229/31) = 39.6x stake.

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[b]10th Jan 2013:[/b]

£99.01 carried over from previous session.

1114 spins before bust. Didn't meet wagering. Didn't get over starting balance.

Wild Desires =

One = 4+5 wild, zero win.

Two = 2 wild, 0.7x stake win.

Highest reel win = 58x stake.

Bonus round one (Michael) paid 28x stake.

Bonus round two (Troy) paid 5x stake.

Bonus round three (Sarah) paid 63x stake.

Bonus round four (Amber) paid 66x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 7206 spins for thirty-five bonus rounds. Highest win 213x stake. 205.9 spins on average for a bonus round.

AVERAGE BONUS ROUND WIN (1391/35) = 39.7x stake.

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[dunover]

Another truly depressing shitathon.

Let's look at the stats!

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10th Jan 2013:

£99.01 carried over from previous session.

1114 spins before bust. Didn't meet wagering. Didn't get over starting balance.

Wild Desires =

One = 4+5 wild, zero win.

Two = 2 wild, 0.7x stake win.

Highest reel win = 58x stake.

Bonus round one (Michael) paid 28x stake.

Bonus round two (Troy) paid 5x stake.

Bonus round three (Sarah) paid 63x stake.

Bonus round four (Amber) paid 66x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 7206 spins for thirty-five bonus rounds. Highest win 213x stake. 205.9 spins on average for a bonus round.

AVERAGE BONUS ROUND WIN (1391/35) = 39.7x stake.

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[b]IR play at 32Red.[/b]

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[b]31st Dec 2012:[/b]

£10 deposit + 200% bonus = £30 bankroll. Didn't meet wagering. (Was never in profit.)

630 spins before bust.

No bonus round.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 630 spins for zero bonus rounds.

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[b]1st Jan 2013:[/b]

£50 deposit = £50 bankroll. Never in profit.

358 spins before bust.

Wild Desires = Zero.

Bonus round one (Michael) paid 18x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 988 spins for one bonus round. Highest win 18x stake.

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[b]3rd Jan 2013 (tracking better stats from here on in):[/b]

£50 deposit + 25% bonus = £62.50 bankroll. Didn't meet wagering. (Was never in profit.)

617 spins before bust.

Wild Desires = Zero.

Highest reel win = 38.5x stake.

Bonus round one (Sarah) paid 10.5x stake.

Bonus round two (Michael) paid 21x stake.

Bonus round three (Amber) paid 22x stake.

Bonus round four (Troy) paid 32.5x stake.

Bonus round five (Troy) paid 56x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 1605 spins for six bonus rounds. Highest win 56x stake. 267.5 spins on average for a bonus round.

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[b]4th Jan 2013:[/b]

£50 deposit + 100% bonus = £100 bankroll.

774 spins, carried over £117.14p to next session. £232 wagered. (Wagering requirement not met.)

Wild Desires = 

One = 2+4 wild, zero win.

Two = 3 wild, 10x stake win.

Highest reel win = 92x stake.

Bonus round one (Sarah) paid 10x stake.

Bonus round two (Sarah) paid 38x stake.

Bonus round three (Troy) paid 10x stake.

Bonus round four (Amber) paid 213x stake.

Bonus round five (Amber) paid 21x stake.

Bonus round six (Michael) paid 55x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 2379 spins for twelve bonus rounds. Highest win 213x stake. 198.25 spins on average for a bonus 

round.

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[b]5th Jan 2013:[/b]

£117.14p bankroll carried over from yesterday.

2434 spins before bust. Didn't meet wagering, high point of £164 but couldn't withdraw.

Wild Desires =

One = 2 wild, zero win.

Two = 2+4 wild, 30x stake win.

Three = 3 wild, 0.5x stake win.

Four = 3+5 wild, 30x stake win.

Five = 4 wild, zero win.

Highest reel win = 122x stake.

Bonus round one (Amber) paid 174x stake. (Retriggered.)

Bonus round two (Michael) paid 32.5x stake.

Bonus round three (Troy) paid 8x stake.

Bonus round four (Sarah) paid 26x stake.

Bonus round five (Amber) paid 9.5x stake.

Bonus round six (Troy) paid 24x stake.

Bonus round seven (Sarah) paid 44x stake.

Bonus round eight (Sarah) paid 32x stake.

Bonus round nine (Amber) paid 36.5x stake.

Bonus round ten (Michael) paid 35x stake.

Bonus round eleven (Michael) paid 43x stake.

Bonus round twelve (Troy) paid 7x stake.

Bonus round thirteen (Amber) paid 13.5x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 4813 spins for twenty-five bonus rounds. Highest win 213x stake. 192.5 spins on average for a 

bonus round.

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[b]6th Jan 2013:[/b]

£50 desposit + 50% bonus = £75 bankroll.

473 spins before bust. Didn't meet wagering. (Made just £141.90p of wagers, less than twice the bankroll!)

Wild Desires = Zero.

Highest reel win = 10x stake.

Bonus round one (Sarah) paid 25x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 5286 spins for twenty-six bonus rounds. Highest win 213x stake. 203.3 spins on average for a 

bonus round.

AVERAGE BONUS ROUND WIN (1017/26) = 39x stake.

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[b]9th Jan 2013:[/b]

£50 desposit + 100% bonus = £100 bankroll.

806 spins, carried over £99.01 to next session. Wagering not met.

Wild Desires = Zero.

Highest reel win = 62.5x stake.

Bonus round one (Amber) paid 51x stake.

Bonus round two (Amber) paid 7x stake.

Bonus round three (Sarah) paid 32x stake.

Bonus round four (Michael) paid 73x stake.

Bonus round five (Troy) paid 49x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 6092 spins for thirty-one bonus rounds. Highest win 213x stake. 196.5 spins on average for a 

bonus round.

AVERAGE BONUS ROUND WIN (1229/31) = 39.6x stake.

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[b]10th Jan 2013:[/b]

£99.01 carried over from previous session.

1114 spins before bust. Didn't meet wagering. Didn't get over starting balance.

Wild Desires =

One = 4+5 wild, zero win.

Two = 2 wild, 0.7x stake win.

Highest reel win = 58x stake.

Bonus round one (Michael) paid 28x stake.

Bonus round two (Troy) paid 5x stake.

Bonus round three (Sarah) paid 63x stake.

Bonus round four (Amber) paid 66x stake.

RUNNING BONUS ROUND STATS = 7206 spins for thirty-five bonus rounds. Highest win 213x stake. 205.9 spins on average for a bonus round.

AVERAGE BONUS ROUND WIN (1391/35) = 39.7x stake.

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Please please listen. You WILL eventually get a 4-reel WD win. Before then you'll get a large-ish 5 Sarahs with 2 or 3 wilds. When you're down enough, you'll have 'bought' the large win.That's the way it goes on these random slots

 

[Osloking]

Please please listen. You WILL eventually get a 4-reel WD win. Before then you'll get a large-ish 5 Sarahs with 2 or 3 wilds. When you're down enough, you'll have 'bought' the large win.That's the way it goes on these random slots

Thats completely bullocks, since it came out i have chunked hundreds of thousands of spins and thousands of $ without any 4 wilds.

This is the slot i have spinned most and had the worst results..

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Thats completely bullocks, since it came out i have chunked hundreds of thousands of spins and thousands of $ without any 4 wilds.

This is the slot i have spinned most and had the worst results..

Any ideas what your stats are Oslo? Certainly 32Red are very good at reporting back on your personal RTP.

 

[Osloking]

Any ideas what your stats are Oslo? Certainly 32Red are very good at reporting back on your personal RTP.

yes i got in touch with them regarding that but they could not provide me the stat for no more than 6months (asked for 12months) The MG seems to delete it after that long for those 6months period it is 89-90%

 

[kktmd]

What's the RTP on 20 spins immediately after x10, x60 and x100?

RTP on 20 spins immediately AFTER 10xbet win: 0.9501
RTP on 20 spins immediately AFTER 60xbet win: 0.9554
RTP on 20 spins immediately AFTER 100xbet win: 1.0266

based on 1.052.594 spins 30p freeplay, RTP: 0.9607

 

[Nifty29]

Thing is though Nifty, what you're saying there doesn't make any sense unless you happen to think it's not a truly random slot.

Yes it's a high variance slot, and as such needs to be treated like any other high variance in slot in terms of its ability to pay nothing or very little for an extended period of time - but other than that what's the difference between IR and any other high variance slot?

Right, it just goes to show that even the black-and-white random brigade accept there's patterns in the slots' behaviour. It's funny you should post these stats, as I have noticed on several occasions this precise effect. A big win on the menstruation whatever feature followed by immediate feature entry (or vice versa) or large reel win. This occurs on TSII a lot too. But we all know they're totally random and there are only co-incidences and no patterns....

Errrmmm....hang on a minute. You're both adding 2 and 2 together and getting 29.

I said "IMO" i.e. it's the way I play the slot. In fact, it's the way I play ANY high variance slot.

HV slots pay bugger all on most of the spins, and pay big on the occasional spin to make up the TRTP. Hence, if I hit big, which is an UNLIKELY event anyway, I play another 50 spins (which is how many I play on HV slots before moving on), and if I don't win I move on. I mentioned IR because it's the game we are discussing...that's all.

It's not about thinking it is going to pay because it is on a pre-determined winning streak or my chances are any better or worse because I just hit a big one. It's just that I realise it is tough as hell to win on these slots so I don't spend everything I just won chasing the next one. I'd have thought that was fairly logical.

Nothing I said indicates that I think the slot is not random. I am a member of the "black and white" brigade as you put it....the slot is either random or it isn't....I happen to think it is, as I do with the other slots I play (save for the AWPs of course), If I didn't, I wouldn't play them. I've yet to see anything happen on mainstream slots (I haven't played every software out there) that couldn't have happened if the slot was random.

Players talk about winnings streaks and losing streaks....these will happen on a random slot. It's a bit of a "chicken or the egg" thing really......do we have a win on a slot because we struck a "winning streak", or do we have a "winning streak" on a slot because we are winning. If the ONLY time I won on a slot was when I hit a winning streak, then perhaps I might be suspicious. However, I've hit nothing for 49 spins and hit a whale on the 50th....and then hit nothing afterwards. If the slots have programmed winning and losing streaks, that would appear to be a mistake in the programming, no? Either they have pre-programmed streaks that determine whether you have a winning or losing session, or they don't.

 

[dionysus]

Errrmmm....hang on a minute. You're both adding 2 and 2 together and getting 29.

I said "IMO" i.e. it's the way I play the slot. In fact, it's the way I play ANY high variance slot.

HV slots pay bugger all on most of the spins, and pay big on the occasional spin to make up the TRTP. Hence, if I hit big, which is an UNLIKELY event anyway, I play another 50 spins (which is how many I play on HV slots before moving on), and if I don't win I move on. I mentioned IR because it's the game we are discussing...that's all.

It's not about thinking it is going to pay because it is on a pre-determined winning streak or my chances are any better or worse because I just hit a big one. It's just that I realise it is tough as hell to win on these slots so I don't spend everything I just won chasing the next one. I'd have thought that was fairly logical.

Nothing I said indicates that I think the slot is not random. I am a member of the "black and white" brigade as you put it....the slot is either random or it isn't....I happen to think it is, as I do with the other slots I play (save for the AWPs of course), If I didn't, I wouldn't play them. I've yet to see anything happen on mainstream slots (I haven't played every software out there) that couldn't have happened if the slot was random.

Players talk about winnings streaks and losing streaks....these will happen on a random slot. It's a bit of a "chicken or the egg" thing really......do we have a win on a slot because we struck a "winning streak", or do we have a "winning streak" on a slot because we are winning. If the ONLY time I won on a slot was when I hit a winning streak, then perhaps I might be suspicious. However, I've hit nothing for 49 spins and hit a whale on the 50th....and then hit nothing afterwards. If the slots have programmed winning and losing streaks, that would appear to be a mistake in the programming, no? Either they have pre-programmed streaks that determine whether you have a winning or losing session, or they don't.

I'm the same way. Unless I'm hitting, I'll play any given slot 25 spins, then move on. Not because I think 25 is special, or magical, or that hits occur in any particular sequence, I just don't feel like flogging my money into something that's not paying and move on.

 

[kktmd]

I've yet to see anything happen on mainstream slots (I haven't played every software out there) that couldn't have happened if the slot was random.

I've had 2.000+ spins on Hellboy without hitting the bonus round (3 scatters) - instead I got "Supermode" 20 times in a row (I dont mean consecutive spins, but pretty much every 70 spins). I've experienced this twice over the last 2 years.