Half month of my deposit and withdraw history from Moneybookers

plasticnote

Experienced Member
Firstly, I have to declare that this is my personal experience based on 15 days of history(a short period of time). If anyone have similar or total different experience, please share with me, thanks in advance.

This month till now (15th July 2011), I have made total 29 deposits and 6 withdraws all through Moneybookers.

RTG:
17 deposits = 1550 USD
1 withdraw = 375 USD

MG:
12 deposits = 1000 AUD
5 withdraws = 1350 AUD

Biggest win so far was from 32red, playing TS1, I hit 5 hammers in free spin and paid
close to $ 800.

For me, there is no contest, MG wins. Every day after work, I will play slots online for few hours. Normally, I make 1 RTG deposit and 1 MG deposit everyday. However, few times, the RTG deposit gone so quick:confused: and I have to make another one:mad:. I can alway get some decent play time from MG deposit.:thumbsup:

So please tell me your love/hate story with RTG/MG ... ... thank you
 

plasticnote

Experienced Member
Sure would be nice to try MG but can't. RTG has a monopoly on the US market.
With so many U.S. facing eWallets out of business, I am feeling that many RTG casinos are struggle. Hope those rogue RTGs would die out during this period of hardship and only good RTGs remaining.

Cheers
 

KasinoKing

WebMeister & Slotaholic..
webmeister
PABnonaccred
CAG
MM
With so many U.S. facing eWallets out of business, I am feeling that many RTG casinos are struggle. Hope those rogue RTGs would die out during this period of hardship and only good RTGs remaining.
One would hope so - but it's more likely to be the other way around;
Reputable RTGs have lots of problems with making cash-outs, but rogue ones don't have that problem because they don't pay their players at all... :mad:

To the OP: Very interesting to read your Deposit/Withdrawal patterns :thumbsup:
I can't imagine having that many transactions! I do play nearly every day, but I only deposit about 5 or 6 times a month, and if I'm lucky withdraw 2 or 3 times. Usually the bonuses I take will take me anything from several days to over a month to complete the WR!

KK
 

chuchu59

gambling addict
PABnonaccred
CAG
With so many U.S. facing eWallets out of business, I am feeling that many RTG casinos are struggle. Hope those rogue RTGs would die out during this period of hardship and only good RTGs remaining.

Cheers
Did you notice the warning from MaxD about Slot Madness? Heck, they refused to open a dialogue with Max for only a paltry $270. They must be living on real hard times. I do think some casinos would fade out in months or even weeks at this rate.
 

UriahHeep

Quit Gambling
PABnonaccred
Firstly, I have to declare that this is my personal experience based on 15 days of history(a short period of time). If anyone have similar or total different experience, please share with me, thanks in advance.

This month till now (15th July 2011), I have made total 29 deposits and 6 withdraws all through Moneybookers.

RTG:
17 deposits = 1550 USD
1 withdraw = 375 USD

MG:
12 deposits = 1000 AUD
5 withdraws = 1350 AUD

Biggest win so far was from 32red, playing TS1, I hit 5 hammers in free spin and paid
close to $ 800.

For me, there is no contest, MG wins. Every day after work, I will play slots online for few hours. Normally, I make 1 RTG deposit and 1 MG deposit everyday. However, few times, the RTG deposit gone so quick:confused: and I have to make another one:mad:. I can alway get some decent play time from MG deposit.:thumbsup:

So please tell me your love/hate story with RTG/MG ... ... thank you
My numbers are very similar to yours. Last 15 days:
MG: 1 deposit 75$ 1 withdraw 1000$. Very lucky on TH II as well.
RTG: 11 deposits grandtotal 825$ no withdraw at all. Never been up not even of a single cent. I tried both redeeming coupons (never cleared not even first third of PT), and without bonus, same result: disaster.
All 11 deposits on same accredited (???) casino, more than 600 consecutive spins without never hitting TWO scatters in first 4 reels. Contacted casino rep here to ask a control, no reply. Contacted support via mail, no reply.

Must be added last sunday I won 75$ on Rushmore's freeroll; I played a little bit and I cashed out 100$.
So that the only win on RTG was coming from a freeroll :rolleyes:

AFAIK, monopoly situations are never leading to positive results.
 

Casinomeister

Forum Cheermeister
Staff member
Did you notice the warning from MaxD about Slot Madness? Heck, they refused to open a dialogue with Max for only a paltry $270...
Actually, we're talking to the right person now. We'll see what happens. :D
 

plasticnote

Experienced Member
Did you notice the warning from MaxD about Slot Madness? Heck, they refused to open a dialogue with Max for only a paltry $270. They must be living on real hard times. I do think some casinos would fade out in months or even weeks at this rate.
$ 270 must be a lot of money to these rogue RTGs because they operate in some 4th world places:p. Just wonder how they pay RTG licence fee? In banana:what:?
 

plasticnote

Experienced Member
My numbers are very similar to yours. Last 15 days:
MG: 1 deposit 75$ 1 withdraw 1000$. Very lucky on TH II as well.
RTG: 11 deposits grandtotal 825$ no withdraw at all. Never been up not even of a single cent. I tried both redeeming coupons (never cleared not even first third of PT), and without bonus, same result: disaster.
All 11 deposits on same accredited (???) casino, more than 600 consecutive spins without never hitting TWO scatters in first 4 reels. Contacted casino rep here to ask a control, no reply. Contacted support via mail, no reply.

Must be added last sunday I won 75$ on Rushmore's freeroll; I played a little bit and I cashed out 100$.
So that the only win on RTG was coming from a freeroll :rolleyes:

AFAIK, monopoly situations are never leading to positive results.
After 6 years playing in various RTGs, I finally decide to stop on them for near future.
Until they sort out themself.

I admit, that I have had so many RJs from (JPC Inet CWC etc), however, now betting $ 5,10,20 on RTG is too suicidal.

I miss those days when I view those great screenshots from metaxa, an old member, who often bet $100 spins and get 100s free spins on rain dance.
 

Temperance Fox

Active Member
PABnononaccred
During a 5 months period, playing every day....

MG active balance with many deposits (from 50 to 100) , first 32RED
Playtech (Omni, PLex, 24ktgold and others, not over 140 euros) a little loss
RTG, many and many deposits ( about 70 euros), many many debacle,

but with only 2 good RTG winnings, the total difference from deposits and withdrawals (MG PLT RTG) is about 17652 USD
So I don't know what to think...it reminds me : better the egg today or perahps, the hen tomorrow?

Nowaday I prefer the egg.

 
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DiamondGeezer

Dormant account
PABaccred
PABnoaccred
PABnononaccred2
I have done much better on MG than RTG having had a couple of big cashouts on MG while RTG was a total loss on amounts deposited. However I have not lost the faith in RTG and have had good wins in the past. RTG is higher variance too.
 

Dipity

Dormant account
I get the same history roughly with RTG's.

I love MicroGaming now though - even when you don't win, it feels like you get more playtime there.

I'm even tempted to go back and give Playtech another shot - but I didn't think I got a lot of playtime there either, so gave up a few months ago.

This week I was gonna spread my deposits out over Playtech, RTG, NetEnt and MG. See how that goes - obviously, only lowrolling :D
 

plasticnote

Experienced Member
I have done much better on MG than RTG having had a couple of big cashouts on MG while RTG was a total loss on amounts deposited. However I have not lost the faith in RTG and have had good wins in the past. RTG is higher variance too.
The biggest problem with RTG for me is that as soon as you have a great session with big wins and successfuly withdraw. Then suddenly, every slots turn ice cold on you. I have had this kind situation so many times, and wish for just once an exception that convince me that these are pure good/bad luck, however, no exception ever granted yet.
The big win I mean here is at least 5 to 10K with bet range $5 - $20 and bankroll is about 1 - 2 K.
 

Temperance Fox

Active Member
PABnononaccred
One week report

I've been playing last week and my feelin' is "These are bad times"

Had 1000 to play
always with bonuses

Mg (various) nothing, no wins and not good combinations
RTG ( various) the same
RIVAL blood and tears

Salvation came from a Playtech (Europgroup:D).But I thought it was better to make a larger deposit, so put in 250 get 250, roll over 25 x , it has been very very hard.I played in different moments/days/hours till I completed the pt and get 2270

So 2020 minus 1000 is the result of many hours , for a total of 1020

I think again it's not a good period to play.Maybe in a few weeks comes out some big JP


Hallo goodbye:confused:
 

plasticnote

Experienced Member
I've been playing last week and my feelin' is "These are bad times"

Had 1000 to play
always with bonuses

Mg (various) nothing, no wins and not good combinations
RTG ( various) the same
RIVAL blood and tears

Salvation came from a Playtech (Europgroup:D).But I thought it was better to make a larger deposit, so put in 250 get 250, roll over 25 x , it has been very very hard.I played in different moments/days/hours till I completed the pt and get 2270

So 2020 minus 1000 is the result of many hours , for a total of 1020

I think again it's not a good period to play.Maybe in a few weeks comes out some big JP


Hallo goodbye:confused:
Feel that this and last week were a bit cold period of wins for me, could not make a screenshots. Who knows, maybe next week will be better.
Just do my routine $100 a day Mega Fortune till it is hit.
 

threescatters

Dormant account
PABnonaccred
Playing at RTG very bad idea imo.

1) Taking USA customers is their decision, but makes it risky for ROW players. Look what happened to 2 out of the 3 poker sites that took USA customers. You run the risk of fund confiscation

2) Many more complaints about RTG casinos than MG casinos. Yes MG casinos get complaints, and behave badly sometimes as well but they have a much better track record than RTG. RTG is the badly behaved casino software brand of choice imo. They dont treat their customers with respect. I suppose I would trust bodog. I did play at canbet when they were RTG also.

3) USA customers have no choice, they can only gamble at a few places. These places take huge risk and pay a lot of money to process transactions for USA players. They get it back by lower RTPs. They have to pay for it somehow and USA players got no choice. Play where casinos fight for your custom, not at ones which know you have no choice but to play there.

You like slots plasticnote? Play at the good MG casinos (my fave slots also), any wagerworks casino (they have good slots as well imo), the trusted playtech like bet365 and netent. Why any need to risk RTG?
 

plasticnote

Experienced Member
Playing at RTG very bad idea imo.

1) Taking USA customers is their decision, but makes it risky for ROW players. Look what happened to 2 out of the 3 poker sites that took USA customers. You run the risk of fund confiscation

2) Many more complaints about RTG casinos than MG casinos. Yes MG casinos get complaints, and behave badly sometimes as well but they have a much better track record than RTG. RTG is the badly behaved casino software brand of choice imo. They dont treat their customers with respect. I suppose I would trust bodog. I did play at canbet when they were RTG also.

3) USA customers have no choice, they can only gamble at a few places. These places take huge risk and pay a lot of money to process transactions for USA players. They get it back by lower RTPs. They have to pay for it somehow and USA players got no choice. Play where casinos fight for your custom, not at ones which know you have no choice but to play there.

You like slots plasticnote? Play at the good MG casinos (my fave slots also), any wagerworks casino (they have good slots as well imo), the trusted playtech like bet365 and netent. Why any need to risk RTG?
Not playing at RTG for many weeks. What you said is my major concern. Bet356 does not accept AU players any longer.

Cheers
 

Nate

Well-Known Member
webmeister
CAG
I closed all my RTG accounts. I played there many times but NEVER successfully withdrew. The first time I attempted to Withdraw, I was told that my documents needed to be approved and that took 2 days to do. I just played the money out.

At 32Red I am ahead by over 15k this month only. Since the inception of my account in 2007 to date, I am ahead at 32Red... I did not get bonus banned because I won or asked for a renewal of forms or put under investigation. My WD's were paid on the same day I requested them and flushed immediately when I asked.

All the WD's I made at 32Red were being squandered at RTG / Rival / NetEnt and Playtech... I can't seem to win on those platforms. I gave up on 3Dice a while back so I have not deposited much because I learned my lesson there :)

The only Casino platform I 'Trust' is MG... The trust pertains to gaming time and returns.

I have made several WD's at other MG casinos this month also - They could total over 40k this month.... I pity the US players who only have the likes of 3Dice and RTG.... I know for a fact I would be skinned alive if I deposited the way I do at MG... Been there, done that, got the T-Shirt.

RTG has too many ways to delay a player. Too many issues even at accredited brands.

MG is THE ONLY 1... Well for me at least :)

Nate
 

plasticnote

Experienced Member
I closed all my RTG accounts. I played there many times but NEVER successfully withdrew. The first time I attempted to Withdraw, I was told that my documents needed to be approved and that took 2 days to do. I just played the money out.

At 32Red I am ahead by over 15k this month only. Since the inception of my account in 2007 to date, I am ahead at 32Red... I did not get bonus banned because I won or asked for a renewal of forms or put under investigation. My WD's were paid on the same day I requested them and flushed immediately when I asked.

All the WD's I made at 32Red were being squandered at RTG / Rival / NetEnt and Playtech... I can't seem to win on those platforms. I gave up on 3Dice a while back so I have not deposited much because I learned my lesson there :)

The only Casino platform I 'Trust' is MG... The trust pertains to gaming time and returns.

I have made several WD's at other MG casinos this month also - They could total over 40k this month.... I pity the US players who only have the likes of 3Dice and RTG.... I know for a fact I would be skinned alive if I deposited the way I do at MG... Been there, done that, got the T-Shirt.

RTG has too many ways to delay a player. Too many issues even at accredited brands.

MG is THE ONLY 1... Well for me at least :)

Nate
Sure, Nate, I agree with you except not all MGs providing services at the 32Red Level.

However, MG games give you the best worth of your money.

Cheers
 
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