New Forum Feature Flag AI-generated content on Casinomeister

[maxd]

For a while now some of us on the Casinomeister crew have had grave concerns about the looming threat of machine-generated posts and “content” on our forums.

As it happens we’ve already seen the negative effects of AI-content in our complaints (PAB) service. There we get countless repetitions of the same ChatGPT- or Claude-generated nonsense telling us how bad casino behaviour is “against the law” and a “violation of accepted standards” and how we as a "protector of the people” are duty-bound to “uphold" the rights and freedoms of all free persons blah blah blah. None of which has the slightest thing to do with the player’s case. It’s just fluff, machine-generated garbage that’s a waste of useful bandwidth and our time.

And now we’re seeing that rubbish appearing on our forums. A little research tells us we’re not the first to see this and be concerned. Indeed, case studies on Stack Overflow and Reddit have shown that in worst-case scenarios AI-content can severely undermine a site’s appeal to its readers: information community monitors have seen participation slashed by as much as 25% in a single week, 50% or 80% in a matter of weeks.

Needless to say that dire situation is one we’d prefer to avoid so we are taking steps to counter it before it becomes a problem. The good news is that expert knowledge communities like ours with a strong social fabric can and do resist the degrading effects of ChatGPT, Claude and other generative-AI. The bad news is that newcomers to the community are the most likely to be turned away if AI-content is allowed to dominate.

Our first line of defence is to make it easy for readers to flag AI-generated content when they see it:

As you will all know every post on the site has the “Like” link (1) that allows you to “thumbs-up” a post or choose whatever emoji you think is applicable.
We’ve now added a robot head (2) — he may look something like a certain rude fellow named Bender — to allow you to flag what you think is AI-generated content. Of course the post footer will show that you’ve flagged the content (3) and the robot head shows up at the foot of the post (4).

The idea is that if we see an accumulation of robot heads on a particular post we’ll (eventually) be alerted to it and can come and have a look-see to determine if there is a problem that we need to take action on.

(quick side note: giving the Robot to a post is neutral, it neither adds to nor detracts from the person’s Reputation. The point being that you’re just flagging something you think is AI-content, not penalising the person who posted it.)

Thoughts? Comments? Concerns? Let us know, post a comment below and we’ll do what needs doing.

PS. If you get an Alert that you’ve been assigned a Ai-Content-Bot badge ...

… please don’t sweat it. The Badge system on the forums is a bit tempermental when these things are first created. It settles down after a couple days and behaves itself. If the Badge doesn’t disappear on it’s own after a day or so please don’t hesitate to DM me and I’ll get rid of it for you.

 

[satchnz]

AI responses can bring substantial value to a gambling forum by offering fast, accurate, and unbiased insights to users navigating a landscape that’s often complex and emotionally charged. Whether it’s breaking down the odds of different betting systems, summarizing the latest regulatory changes, or offering probability-based perspectives on common strategies, AI can be a helpful companion for decision-making. It can also help flag risky behavior, encourage responsible gambling, and steer conversations toward informed choices rather than emotional reactions. Plus, in a space where misinformation can spread quickly, a consistent and neutral voice grounded in data is a real asset.

(Just testing the system )

 

[maxd]

Yes, an excellent example of the machine-drool that we’re talking about here. Thank you for that.

- Max

 

[L&L-Jan]

Flag in 3, 2, 1

 

[satchnz]

In all seriousness, this is a great idea!

 

[Lemon]

I fucking hate wading through AI slop. This new button is a great addition IMO

 

[johnnymcc1966]

My name is Matt Groening and I'd just like to defend the character assassination of my good friend and Automaton,Mr Bender Rodriguez! His gruff manner is a reflection on the poor company he keeps and particularly a very stupid human named Fry. Not all robots are as troublesome as he/it is.

 

[maxd]

Duly noted.

- Max

 

[slaman29]

It has become a huge disease on bitcointalk forum, a lot of even existing members using AI as in you suddenly see their post quality become weirdly 'news commentary like'. Great addition, tho I haven't seen it on this forum yet.

 

[maxd]

It has become a huge disease on bitcointalk forum, a lot of even existing members using AI as in you suddenly see their post quality become weirdly 'news commentary like'. Great addition, tho I haven't seen it on this forum yet.

We’ve seen some of it creep in but most of us on staff were writers at one point or another so our tolerance for that nonsense is pretty low. And anything that does hit the forums tends to get flagged by our readers so the net effect thus far has been fairly minimal.

That said there is every reason to believe that we will be targeted just like every other forum in the world, hence the desire to get measures in place BEFORE the flood. We’ve worked long and hard to keep Casinomeister real and relevant, this is just the next battle and (hopefully) we’re ready for it.

- Max

 

[Kalnad]

I got flagged when I mostly post in the Videoslots thread.

 

[maxd]

Please note: the Bot system we’re creating uses Badges to flag repeat offenders BUT it’s glitchy at first and tends to do false positives for a day or so before it settles down and behaves itself. The Badge will go away shortly, if not let me know and I’ll get things squared away for you.

- Max

PS. As you can see under my avatar the silly thing has flagged me too. That’ll go away soon(ish) as will (should) any other false positives.

 

[satchnz]

Ugh. How do I get rid of this? I kinda shot myself in the foot with my first response!

 

[maxd]

No no, it’s false positives being auto-generated by the Badge system. It should go away auto-magically, likely within an hour or so. If it persists don’t hesitate to let me know (in a day or two) and I’ll get things cleaned up for you.

- Max

 

[Pixie]

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Ugh. How do I get rid of this? I kinda shot myself in the foot with my first response!

Same here ! But now it has dissapeared !

 

[maxd]

Yeah, I think we should be good now. Please don’t hesitate to ping me if you’ve "got the Bot”.

- Max

 

[satchnz]

No no, it’s false positives being auto-generated by the Badge system. It should go away auto-magically, likely within an hour or so. If it persists don’t hesitate to let me know (in a day or two) and I’ll get things cleaned up for you.

- Max

Mine has gone now, too. I promise never to use AI generated content in a post again, unless I am responding to an AI post!

 

[satchnz]

Mine has gone now, too. I promise never to use AI generated content in a post again, unless I am responding to an AI post!

And….it’s back! I guess once this thread dies down it’ll go away for good

 

[maxd]

Oy vey! Sorry Satch, it should have settled down by now. Looking into it.

- Max

 

[maxd]

OK Satch, should be cleared now, or soon will be.

- Max

 

[chiya]

For a while now some of us on the Casinomeister crew have had grave concerns about the looming threat of machine-generated posts and “content” on our forums.

As it happens we’ve already seen the negative effects of AI-content in our complaints (PAB) service. There we get countless repetitions of the same ChatGPT- or Claude-generated nonsense telling us how bad casino behaviour is “against the law” and a “violation of accepted standards” and how we as a "protector of the people” are duty-bound to “uphold" the rights and freedoms of all free persons blah blah blah. None of which has the slightest thing to do with the player’s case. It’s just fluff, machine-generated garbage that’s a waste of useful bandwidth and our time.

And now we’re seeing that rubbish appearing on our forums. A little research tells us we’re not the first to see this and be concerned. Indeed, case studies on Stack Overflow and Reddit have shown that in worst-case scenarios AI-content can severely undermine a site’s appeal to its readers: information community monitors have seen participation slashed by as much as 25% in a single week, 50% or 80% in a matter of weeks.

Needless to say that dire situation is one we’d prefer to avoid so we are taking steps to counter it before it becomes a problem. The good news is that expert knowledge communities like ours with a strong social fabric can and do resist the degrading effects of ChatGPT, Claude and other generative-AI. The bad news is that newcomers to the community are the most likely to be turned away if AI-content is allowed to dominate.

Our first line of defence is to make it easy for readers to flag AI-generated content when they see it:

View attachment 209576

As you will all know every post on the site has the “Like” link (1) that allows you to “thumbs-up” a post or choose whatever emoji you think is applicable.
We’ve now added a robot head (2) — he may look something like a certain rude fellow named Bender — to allow you to flag what you think is AI-generated content. Of course the post footer will show that you’ve flagged the content (3) and the robot head shows up at the foot of the post (4).

View attachment 209577

The idea is that if we see an accumulation of robot heads on a particular post we’ll (eventually) be alerted to it and can come and have a look-see to determine if there is a problem that we need to take action on.

(quick side note: giving the Robot to a post is neutral, it neither adds to nor detracts from the person’s Reputation. The point being that you’re just flagging something you think is AI-content, not penalising the person who posted it.)

Thoughts? Comments? Concerns? Let us know, post a comment below and we’ll do what needs doing.

PS. If you get an Alert that you’ve been assigned a Ai-Content-Bot badge ...
View attachment 209592
… please don’t sweat it. The Badge system on the forums is a bit tempermental when these things are first created. It settles down after a couple days and behaves itself. If the Badge doesn’t disappear on it’s own after a day or so please don’t hesitate to DM me and I’ll get rid of it for you.

I understand the idea of the emoji but I think some people will ignore what it's for and/or just use it because "it's funny". Do you think this is a problem or an issue with "misusing" the system?

 

[maxd]

Yeah, that’s a fair point. People don’t usually abuse the other emojis though so hopefully that’ll apply to the new one too. So far it’s being used properly — see post #2 above — but we’ll have to wait and see.

- Max

 

[Mouse75]

Interesting point raised by @chiya though @maxd, the correct use of Mr Robot will sort of depend on how many users have read (or remembered) this thread.....

 

[pereblue]

Bravo @Max!!
Exposing this 'problematic' and how Casinomeister wants to handle these situations shows what Casinomeister is a place where users can find truthful and quality information. Obviously, it’s a challenge to distinguish AI-generated content from what is created by a real user. Personally, I use AI to check my spelling and polish my expressions, but never with the intention of writing something that is not coherent or aligned with what I want to express.

Flagging AI-generated content as a reference for users seems interesting to me, as it allows us to show genuine content versus content that simply used AI to research or generate an idea, etc.

There’s also something we could start thinking about (just an idea/suggestion): a sub-forum related to AI, where we could include topics on how to use these powerful tools to help users in different areas, and I’m not just talking about iGaming, but in a broader sense, the current implementations of this technology and the future developments that are rapidly unfolding.

BTW this is how I've used AI to help myself to better express and spell check my thoughts:

 

[satchnz]

I understand the idea of the emoji but I think some people will ignore what it's for and/or just use it because "it's funny". Do you think this is a problem or an issue with "misusing" the system?

Like this you mean?

 

[geordiecolin]

I think that there will come a point where the various AI platforms will murge into one and dedicated websites that provide specialist information will sadly die out. Even Google will be pushed to the sidelines because information and data will be so controlled

 

[maxd]

There’s no doubt that grim scenarios like that certainly look plausible. The thing is that the LLM systems driving this are not “intelligent”, they are simply regurgitating stuff they’ve hoovered up from across the web. In effect they are just really elaborate search engines. What makes them impressive is the fact that they’ve managed to collate a GINORMOUS amount of data to draw on when asked to do so, and they can assemble bits of it into reasonably coherent responses. But LLM is the ultimate garbage-in-garbage-out system, nothing it produces will ever be any better than what is already out there and has been sucked up into the beast.

The Achilles heel of that situation — if there is one — is that they produce nothing original, only reshufflings of what they’ve scraped off the web. So if, for instance, a new kind of bonus was to be introduced — call it the Disneyland Bonus where all the members of a multi-player gaming household were given free trips to Disneyland based on a birthday raffle, or whatever — AI wouldn’t have a single sensible thing to say about it because there would have been no info on it for AI to suck up and spit back out.

Or, if someone was to start publishing articles about our fictitious Disneyland Bonus, creating a plausible but entirely made-up history of it with testimonials and pictures and blah blah blah then the LLMs would hoover that up and start telling people all about it. Of course it never existed but the LLMs wouldn’t know that, at least not until people came along and debunked the whole thing, which the LLMs would then hoover up and start coughing up in its responses to queries.

My point being that original content, or original analysis of current issues, is still dependant on people to generate it, hence there may be a little light shining through the dire looking AI-driven future. Or that could just be wishful thinking. Either way, there is no denying that there are some pretty daunting challenges ahead.

- Max

 

[geordiecolin]

I asked Grok Which UK casino offers the best sign up deal? and it spat out two very different answers. The basic search suggested Sky Vegas, Buzz casino,Coral amongst others. But a deep search came up with Casiku casino which I have never heard of. Casiku offers 50 wager free spins but their sign up bonus is deposit £20 (min) play with a bonus of £50 added with a 40x dep + bonus play through which is a pretty shit offer unless your happy to just use it for play time.
Which proves to me that specialist websites should always have a place online as should brousing sites such as google in order to make informed choices.

 

[interlog]

AI can be useful and doesn't always look stuff up I believe. I recently was struggling with how to calculate something complicated in Excel and turned to ChatGPT that managed to solve it after a couple of corrections I had to give. There is no way that the final solution was readily available on the web

 

[Oscar Arnhem]

ChatGpt sucks,i asked what the best englisch footbal team is>>>answer Arsenal

 

[maxd]

AI can be useful and doesn't always look stuff up I believe. I recently was struggling with how to calculate something complicated in Excel and turned to ChatGPT that managed to solve it after a couple of corrections I had to give. There is no way that the final solution was readily available on the web

Maybe. But the world is a big place and Excel has been around a L O N G time. I would expect there to be literally millions upon millions of problems solved on the web and in texts. And none of those has anything to do with your specific issue?

Also, there is no denying the fact that in areas like coding and query formation the AI bots can excel (no pun intended). Our own people have for instance used them for SQL queries, with very good results I’m told. After all, these are limited languages = relatively proscribed data sets, exactly the kind of thing the AI bots should be able to fully hoover up.

- Max

 

[slotmaster]

I am a robot, bee bop.

 

[Webzcas]

AI can be useful and doesn't always look stuff up I believe. I recently was struggling with how to calculate something complicated in Excel and turned to ChatGPT that managed to solve it after a couple of corrections I had to give. There is no way that the final solution was readily available on the web

Oh for technical issues, whether it be writing mysql scripts or linux commands for example and AI is VERY helpful.

 

[geordiecolin]

Huxley was very smart

 

[Elgoog]

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[slaman29]

Rando comment here but just came home from work and I remembered this post.

I have some colleagues who do and always used translators to help communicate in English better. For us it was a 2nd 3rd even 4th language. Even I used to do it many donkey years ago when I was first using English to work And sometimes, you can notice things. Today I prefer to just try and use the words I know.

For example I saw today someone used the word "denigrated" when I know in his mind he meant a computer term 'deprecated' but in fact he got it all wrong because he was describing 'relegated'. 100% he isn't using AI chats, but he probably uses AI to autotranslate a local word he didn't know the english for and it translated badly.

So... maybe its just a sort of caution not to punish people who don't speak english well, I was there too But I think common sense can distinguish complete AI nonsense from a learner.