World Cup 2022 FIFA 2022 World Cup (Qatar) - Who will be the Winner?

[dunover]

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I get the same old dreams same time every night
Fall to the ground and I wake up
So I get out of bed, put on my shoes and in my head
Thoughts fly back to the World Cup
These four teams are closing in
Look at the group you put me in!
Since you been gone
Since you been gone
I'm out of my group, can't take it
Could I be wrong?
But since you been gone
You cast your spell, so break it
Oh-oh, oh-oh, oh-oh
Since you been gone ?

Ah, the refreshing brash vocals of Graham Bonnet, those were the days, when 'Rainbow' meant something far more enjoyable than the fucking armband bollocks we endure now.

 

[LadyJelena]

Spain don't need to score, now that Germany lead. But Germany needs Spain to score.

Spain equaliser sends Germany through on goals scored.

EDIT: Germany scored again. Now they would go through on goal difference.

 

[goatwack]

Most beautiful picture of the World Cup so far? ?

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Whatever you do, don't mention the VAR

 

[goatwack]

Kai Haivertz, absolutely delighted to pick up that much-deserved Man of the Match award

 

[mack341]

So Japan have now beaten 2 of the biggest football nations, they've got so much enthusiasm and team spirit it's great to see, rather than the dour teams who've had it drilled into them that they are out there to do a professional 'job' and then bore the pants off everyone watching!

 

[Webzcas]

Very fitting that the Germans came up with the word: "Schadenfreude"

 

[Webzcas]

 

[Webzcas]

Whatever you do, don't mention the VAR

Justice for Frank Lampard in 2010!

KARMA

 

[pereblue]

Most beautiful picture of the World Cup so far? ?

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this is not fair... means this rule about 100% ball out of the line ... the foot is 100%out of the line so could be a way to avoid this situations..

 

[dunover]

this is not fair... means this rule about 100% ball out of the line ... the foot is 100%out of the line so could be a way to avoid this situations..

It's very fair. In your scenario, for example a player would not be able to stand outside of the sideline and head a ball back into the pitch that was going out but was above the line when headed back in. The game would stop more and more than it does already.

 

[dunover]

Very fitting that the Germans came up with the word: "Schadenfreude"

The English equivalent word (we DO have one contrary to common belief) is 'epicaricacy'..................

Say that after a few pints.

 

[goatwack]

Justice for Frank Lampard in 2010!

KARMA

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I sort of get the glee in seeing ze Germans dumped kraut of the tournament, I really do, having watched 'quite a few' matches over the years......but I don't see why pundits are creaming themselves over this being revenge for 2010 etc

Given that it's not even Germany playing England or something! What's more bemusing is that despite every actual football fan hating it, and it being here to stay, and God knows how many angles, video rooms and 'VAR referees' are huddled in a room, they still gone and messed up the decision!

If it was cut and dry, then fair enough. But there'll come a point where another 'VAR decision' is bonkled, and I thought this was meant to be foolproof. The thing will never be fit for purpose as it still has human decisions based off it!

But as for the 2010 'revenge' mantra being espoused, that was so long ago, it just surprises me that any German fan would see that as comeuppance ?‍

 

[dunover]

I sort of get the glee in seeing ze Germans dumped kraut of the tournament, I really do, having watched 'quite a few' matches over the years......but I don't see why pundits are creaming themselves over this being revenge for 2010 etc

Given that it's not even Germany playing England or something! What's more bemusing is that despite every actual football fan hating it, and it being here to stay, and God knows how many angles, video rooms and 'VAR referees' are huddled in a room, they still gone and messed up the decision!

If it was cut and dry, then fair enough. But there'll come a point where another 'VAR decision' is bonkled, and I thought this was meant to be foolproof. The thing will never be fit for purpose as it still has human decisions based off it!

But as for the 2010 'revenge' mantra being espoused, that was so long ago, it just surprises me that any German fan would see that as comeuppance ?‍

The curve of the ball was clearly a few mm above the back edge of the line. Good, correct decision. Nothing for the Krauts to be sour about. Praise the man who crossed it for the goal just in time.

 

[goatwack]

It's just the fact that VAR/ goal-line technology will never be fit for purpose as it stands.....

And as mentioned, what's to prevent a recurrence of this happening elsewhere at some point. The real funny thing in all of this is that no team is safe from dodgy decisions (still), despite now having the technology to avoid these scenarios!

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[Webzcas]

I sort of get the glee in seeing ze Germans dumped kraut of the tournament, I really do, having watched 'quite a few' matches over the years......but I don't see why pundits are creaming themselves over this being revenge for 2010 etc

Given that it's not even Germany playing England or something! What's more bemusing is that despite every actual football fan hating it, and it being here to stay, and God knows how many angles, video rooms and 'VAR referees' are huddled in a room, they still gone and messed up the decision!

If it was cut and dry, then fair enough. But there'll come a point where another 'VAR decision' is bonkled, and I thought this was meant to be foolproof. The thing will never be fit for purpose as it still has human decisions based off it!

But as for the 2010 'revenge' mantra being espoused, that was so long ago, it just surprises me that any German fan would see that as comeuppance ?‍

I disagree completely. As a 16 year old boy being made to cry like Gazza after unfairly being dumped out on penalties in the Semi Finals at Italia 90. Only to be followed by more penalty heartache at Wembley in the Semi Finals of Euro 96. Followed up by being beaten by Germany at the last ever game held at Wembley before it was turned into rubble by the diggers to be rebuilt. Then Lampard's clear goal being ruled out during the 2nd Round of South Africa 2010. A decision that saw our heads bow and the Germans went on to thrash us as a result.

So, yes, I can agree with and see why people like Alan Shearer posted this

 

[goatwack]

I disagree completely. As a 16 year old boy being made to cry like Gazza after unfairly being dumped out on penalties in the Semi Finals at Italia 90. Only to be followed by more penalty heartache at Wembley in the Semi Finals of Euro 96. Followed up by being beaten by Germany at the last ever game held at Wembley and turned into rubble by the diggers to be rebuilt. Then Lampard's clear goal being ruled out during the 2nd Round of South Africa 2010. A decision that saw our heads bow and the Germans went on to thrash us as a result.

So, yes, I can agree with and see why people like Alan Shearer posted this

Unfairly? It was penalties!

And that's my point - 2010's disallowed Lampard goal was daylight robbery.......but they didn't have 'VAR' to fall back on.

Now we have this tech and it's causing nothing but grief!

But as for the '90 & '96 Semi-Finals, both games were close-fought, both were on a knife-edge, and yes, I remember Gazza just needing to stick out his big toe to slot that away in e/t at Wembley. Classic games!

 

[Jono777]

Might have this wrong but didn't England get their "revenge" in the Euro's just gone, beating Germany in the 'round of 16' ?

 

[Webzcas]

I sort of get the glee in seeing ze Germans dumped kraut of the tournament, I really do, having watched 'quite a few' matches over the years......but I don't see why pundits are creaming themselves over this being revenge for 2010 etc

Given that it's not even Germany playing England or something! What's more bemusing is that despite every actual football fan hating it, and it being here to stay, and God knows how many angles, video rooms and 'VAR referees' are huddled in a room, they still gone and messed up the decision!

If it was cut and dry, then fair enough. But there'll come a point where another 'VAR decision' is bonkled, and I thought this was meant to be foolproof. The thing will never be fit for purpose as it still has human decisions based off it!

But as for the 2010 'revenge' mantra being espoused, that was so long ago, it just surprises me that any German fan would see that as comeuppance ?‍

Might have this wrong but didn't England get their "revenge" in the Euro's just gone, beating Germany in the 'round of 16' ?

England vs Germany is our main rivalry. Whilst for Germany it is Holland I believe. The same as the Scots and Welsh rejoice when England get beat - Remember when Iceland knocked us out of the Euros and how the Welsh fans in particular reacted? We tend to take great "Schadenfreude" whenever Germany come a cropper

 

[mcgameboy]

The English equivalent word (we DO have one contrary to common belief) is 'epicaricacy'..................

Say that after a few pints.

Say whaaaa?

I can't even figure out in my head how to fu@king pronounce that correctly after a cup of strong coffee, let alone actually speak it....

Luckily, I have a handful of friends from The Fast Show who can help me out....

 

[goatwack]

"The.....neh pie-pi?"

 

[mack341]

Former world cups had a slight eurovision feel when it came to referees and their decisions at times, national biases and favouritism, in fact I think Fifa would rule out say a dutch referee for a germany vs france match, or an english reffing an argentina match [and vice versa].

I think that was the right call in the match last night, although it looks out technically it's not, and I think any benefit of doubt should go to the attacking team, e.g. the timing of when his foot actually hit the ball, comes down to a millisecond probably.

The night previous a dutch ref gave a very dubious penalty to argentina against poland, justice was served as the keeper saved it. So VAR hasn't really 100% removed bias imo.

 

[justdoit]

I think final will be Germany vs Croatia

 

[dunover]

Who'd have thunk it? The only sides unbeaten after group stages are USA, England, Holland, Morocco and Croatia. And none of those are remotely good enough to win the WC.

 

[goatwack]

Have to admire France's tactical setup and nous, it's quite elaborate. Basically "Pass to Mbappe"

 

[goatwack]

Alrighty! France in the Quarters!

 

[pinnit2014]

Been some decent games, no doubt but shame there's no swashbuckling side. Disappeared down the rabbit hole when watching Brazil the other day and said on a few times: he's 58 now! (Bebeto) or, 'i forgot he's a politician' (Romario).

Still remember '98 when Brazil v Scotland was on: the teachers had a TV wheeled out outside the hall during a GCSE R.E exam and the roar when Collins equalised. Pretty sure that's what put me off and made me get an equally impressive E, or something, in it.

The sigh when Boyd became a Brazilian citizen for the winner was equally as impressive (and in hindsight, unprofessional )

 

[goatwack]

Yes, I'd say it's been a surprisingly solid tournament but far from vintage, albeit many a WC has had its dreary group games. On that front it's been pretty surprising, with shocks aplenty.

But as for 'The One', there hasn't been any standout, cavalier teams, like say Brazil '94. Or '02. Or just Brazil. Even Brazil haven't been overly Brazil

France look ok, as do Holland, for sort of entertainment. I do suspect there'll be some cracking games Quarters onwards however. I just feel it in my bones!

And Japan an outside bet?.....

 

[pinnit2014]

I certainly miss the vintage, well vintage, even the 90's was IMO the last truly 'score 4, we'll score 5', Brazilian Teams

Japan remind me a bit of the South Korean team of the early 2000's but with a bit more bite about them. Plus, what's not to like with a classy fanbase

 

[goatwack]

England living dangerously, and apart from a promising first five minutes, reverting back to type.......

 

[goatwack]

.....and yet, England score a nice team goal, against the run of play!

 

[pinnit2014]

I'd always be wary of playing against some of the African teams, even if not at the peak of their powers because you typically get an athletic, strong team (albeit, not great at scoring)

Edit - the fuckers scored.

 

[goatwack]

Worst part now is witnessing the drunken ramblings of "It's coming home" en masse.

All the while, Senegal's fans just keep dancing like it's 1999. And they have a lion in the crowd ffs

 

[goatwack]

What a nice counter-attack. It really is all over for Senegal already!

 

[sufferinsilence]

Worst part now is witnessing the drunken ramblings of "It's coming home" en masse.

All the while, Senegal's fans just keep dancing like it's 1999. And they have a lion in the crowd ffs

 

[goatwack]

Seriously, someone call the nurse for these two. They've been peddling that shite for 25 years now, if you let them, they'll do it another 25

 

[mcgameboy]

Seriously, someone call the nurse for these two. They've been peddling that shite for 25 years now, if you let them, they'll do it another 25

Now THERE'S a double act I can REALLY get behind.

Waldorf is me with a moustache. And Statler is me when I go bald but somehow end up with bigger eyebrows than Denis Healey.

 

[Webzcas]

Worst part now is witnessing the drunken ramblings of "It's coming home" en masse.

All the while, Senegal's fans just keep dancing like it's 1999. And they have a lion in the crowd ffs

I don't know about it's coming home, but I am actually going to Frome tomorrow.....

 

[Webzcas]

Bellingham, Foden and Saka all have to start on Saturday. Bellingham was pure class and his link up play with Foden was a joy to behold. More of the same please

 

[dunover]

So all they are talking about is Oooom-Bappy, a piece of piss for our notable cheetah MacGuire.

I predicted QF exit for England before it started and I still do alas. The reason being that we cannot avoid the 'good' countries in the draw at QF stage like we did in the last two tournaments.

And I have to agree with @goatwack - I am so fucking pukingly emetically sick of that shite-sound 'It's coming home' song that I'd even be glad when we're out so it doesn't perpetuate the moronic singing of said bilge, if I never hear it again it'll be too soon.

The terrible tripe got it's name for ONE specific tourney - Euro '96 when football (an English invention) came 'home' to England as the tourney was hosted there. So hence 'it's coming home'. It was not about a trophy 'coming home' and never was. Some hope, kind a like a 20,000x on Bonanza. If I see Yasser Arafat and Frank Skinner's ugly mugs ever again I am going to add them to A*t & D*c on my psychotic hate list.

Now I hate soccer songs. The average knuckle-dragging, brawling and bottle & chair-throwing England fan is not expected to remember more than 3 words or 6 syllables. So we get complex lyrics like 'It's coming home' (3 words) which morphs into 'football's coming home' (which admirably most England fans have now got the hang of, the alternating prefix word!)

Other classics include 'Here we go, here we go' (repeated) 3 simple words, nice and easy. Then Fat Les 'la-la-la' (same word 3 times but sung in 3 different notes in a crescendo so just about memorable to them.) The infinitely superior 'World in Motion' by New Order is largely forgotten because of the technical complexity of the lyrics 'Love's got the world in motion and I can't believe it's true' (far too long-winded for the beer monsters) although they did try to accomodate their intellects with an easy chorus 'We're singing for England, Eng-er-lund' which alas breached the 3-word barrier by using 4 words before the 3-syllable 'Eng-er-lund'. So fell by the smashed-glass wayside.

The Scots must be a bit more educated because in the mists of history when they used to qualify for WC's I recall BA Robertson's (pretty good) song 'I have a dream' which is 4 words, thus Scots fans must be 33.3% brighter than English ones.

 

[Webzcas]

Forget the Lightning Seeds. This is the best England W Cup song ever, bar none.

 

[justdoit]

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[goatwack]

I see Japan have 'scored'. Next they'll 'win' this game too

 

[Webzcas]

One of my favourite teams in this World Cup. Come on Japan!

 

[goatwack]

120 million Japanese and one naked drunk Finn are positively going apeshit round about now

たたかう!!

そして飲む!

 

[pinnit2014]

I'd be quite happy to stare at the female Japanese fans for 90mins and not be concerned about the score.

Even on a Unibet boost

 

[goatwack]

I was about to slate Croatia for being low-effort

Then they score a worldie header

 

[pinnit2014]

Over the years Croatia have always been technically excellent - better than the Dutch etc imo but they've always lacked that consistent pace in their teams. If they had that they'd have propped up semi finals more often.

 

[Webzcas]

I am going to shut up until after games have finished!

 

[pinnit2014]

Yeah, every time i was typing the other day, England scored which, apart from the English , no one really wanted

I shall voice my Japan support with...

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[goatwack]

I suspect this one'll go to extra time*