Copyright issues with forum posts

[BingoT]

I have a way to solve this and have PMd bb about a proposal. Thanks!

The Best News This Week
And what a great way to start the new weekend off.
Thanks Bryan
B-T (Tom)
Have A Great Weekend Everyone

 

[Casinomeister]

As most of you know, I publish two newsletters, the Meister Mail (for general readership), and the Meister Blatt (for industry personnel). I offered to publish bb28's posting (pretty much verbatim) in the Blatt giving full credit and compensation of $100 which she chose to go to the "Make a Wish" foundation here:
https://www.casinomeister.com/donate/

So in the end, something good has come from this.

My apologies: I should have been more involved with this from the git-go. But the past two weeks have been packed full with a crap-load of things for me to do - plus yesterday was a holiday. So I was never fully focused on this issue until now - and it's already taken a number of directions.

 

[BingoT]

As most of you know, I publish two newsletters, the Meister Mail (for general readership), and the Meister Blatt (for industry personnel). I offered to publish bb28's posting (pretty much verbatim) giving full credit and compensation of $100 which she chose to go to the "Make a Wish" foundation here:
https://www.casinomeister.com/donate/

So in the end, something good has come from this.

My apologies: I should have been more involved with this from the git-go. But the past two weeks have been packed full with a crap-load of things for me to do - plus yesterday was a holiday. So I was never fully focused on this issue until now - and it's already taken a number of directions.

bb.

"Make A Wish" is a great pick.
BB again great story
And the outcome will be you will make someone happy in your name
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But I do have to say where is Jetset?

 

[winbig]

I for one am glad to hear of this outcome, and glad that there's a kid out there that this is going to benefit from it. Kudos Bryan and BB

 

[Sassy1]

It was very nice of you, Casinomeister, to find a way to recognize and reward BB for her excellent article, especially since it wasn't YOU who should have had to step to the plate.

To GaryWatson, I am so sorry that your PM to Jetset resulted in such a negative outcome. I have great respect for you and what you tried to accomplish.

To jetset, I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that the reason you hadn't addressed some of the issues was because you were busy or offline. Now that I see you were just off in a corner somewhere and unwilling to deal with the issue that YOU created, all respect I had for you is now gone. It would have been so easy to just say you made an error in judgment and you were sorry for the outcome.

I'm guessing I will now be banned, so, farewell to all!

 

[jod5413]

Nah Sassy,

No reason you are going to get banned. You aren't babbling maniacally, drunk, swearing, or acting in any other idiotic fashion. You are giving your honest and forthright opinion. No waffling, no hiding under the bed.

At least you were upfront and brave enough to actually state your opinion, even if you knew you might be viewed unfavorably. That is something to admire. Not chastise.

Good For You. And Shame on Some of the Others.

And Bryan, someone owes you a few beers. Very nice of you, Sir.

 

[patrina]

Hey everyone, I have been away for several days and had alot of reading to catch up on but I am happy to see everything faired well. Jetset, just from curiousity, and please know I am not trying to make things any worse then they were, you stated that you sent out a news oriented story, is there any way we could see a copy of what you sent out? To enlighten, perhaps?
Thanks,
Patrina
p.s bb, a beautiful contribution!

 

[BingoT]

Hey everyone, I have been away for several days and had alot of reading to catch up on but I am happy to see everything faired well. Jetset, just from curiousity, and please know I am not trying to make things any worse then they were, you stated that you sent out a news oriented story, is there any way we could see a copy of what you sent out? To enlighten, perhaps?
Thanks,
Patrina
p.s bb, a beautiful contribution!

We know this has Half closure at this time.
And it would be nice to see this closed up.
And I think the members would like to know from his view point.
Thank You
This is my opinion

 

[happygobrokey]

dude how did i miss this one?

i just noticed this and man what a thrill ride.

at first i was siding with the journalists. because i can read something, find that upon inspiration to think about the topic at hand, that i come to agree with and share the views expressed. i can then come back and write something of my own, perhaps even hauntingly echoing of the source from which i began to study the issue, but it's still mine. nothing is truly original these days. it's all been done. everyone's ideas come from somewhere.

what i was taught in school is that if your own conscience (or the source author reading your work, or some kind of turing device designed to detect semantic equivalencies between texts) indicates that you copied it, then it's plagiarism. direct copy/paste calls for quotation marks and citation of source article. a paraphrased and directly ported idea (or fact that is not common knowledge) deserves some form of reference. if you are using passages you've read (that aren't sitting open in front of you) to help you come up with content you'll write from scratch, no reference necessary.

then the post where i think bingot showed the edits made to bb28's post makes it seem like a lot of the content was a straight port, thus deserving more of a reference than "a player on a gambling forum" included in the intro and wholly overlooked once the meat of the article is being read.

but in fact, i also felt that bb's position throughout (to force them to take it down or revert to her own original) was not necessary. after all, she posted it for free for all to see, and hopefully to take to heart as well. and indeed as well the cm forum only reaches perhaps 0.0001% of the population, so the chance it was a direct port is decreased (fewer people actually read it than if it was published in, say, time magazine), and as well it stands to reckon that by only posting the passage to this site, that it was not bb's intent to spread this as her own work globally and own all rights to the content therein (especially when posting to the forum explicitly gives ownership to the forum's meister).

then the infopowa link is discovered, and it becomes a question of who brought it to them. then jets comes on and takes responsibility, but declines to offer an admission of fault - let alone an apology - to another esteemed member who was very obviously upset. then an eerie calm... then someone pipes up and calls him out in the thread. member(s) send pm and from what i gather it did not go over well with him. although the events as they transpired may not constitute plagiarism proper, i believe some toes were definitely stepped on and for the sake of the forum's integrity, a lone spoonful even of humble pie ought be taken. a simple "sorry" is probably too plebian for his taste, but "apologies for any inconvenience" would suffice to clear the air yet still not admit fault for any more than a careless oversight. . . . . . .no wonder he hasn't "friended" me, he's been too busy stealing news lmao *half-joking*. . .

it all boils down to plagiarism being a spectrum with much grey in the middle. and as has been iterated, the vast majority of "news" is cloned from other news, or composed in such a standard way that two copies describing the same scenario could appear very similar, yet neither had any direct or indirect influence on the other. and of course, the adage about what we are ignorant of not harming us: had this thread not broke, it's likely no one would have noticed. sure it's essentially reversing causality, but in practice it works. you're not a plagiarist or a drunk driver until it gets noticed and reported.

anyhow, sorry if this thread is getting old, but it was my first time reading it, and as i read along i gathered things to mention (particularly my views on plagiarism), which i have done so i'll move along now. and barring any nix from cm, feel free to harvest and redistribute any nugget(s) you wish from this post.

except sticking a thumbsup smiley at the tail end of your posts; i own that.

 

[lojo]

dude how did i miss this one?

except sticking a thumbsup smiley at the tail end of your posts; i own that.

Ya oughta see the many many posts I didn't post. argghhh it's like a low grade infection. snivel snivel.
Brain Cullingsworth did not escape this one. One thing is absolutely certain, the society, for better or worse controls the content. It just isnt a gambling issue. Or is it?

 

[Casinomeister]

Since this has not too much with Online Casinos, it's been moved to this spot over here.