Club World Casinos -- Payments are taking considerably longer to be received

[Nifty29]

It's actually been 11 business days as there was a bank holiday on the 2nd and on the 13th.

Technically 10 full business days if you don't count the day OF approval and start the clock the next full business day.

7-10 business days would make me think that you should have it in your account today/tomorrow.

Support isn't really going to tell you anything anyway. Don't get me wrong, I'm sympathetic as I too am still waiting for a withdrawl approved on the 1st. But we all need to just chill and wait the full 10 business days before we start sounding alarm bells.

I doubt that someone who thinks they're gonna get stiffed is likely to consider such things. I mean, if the casino is "full of it" then it doesn't really matter does it

 

[daveboz]

It's actually been 11 business days as there was a bank holiday on the 2nd and on the 13th.

Technically 10 full business days if you don't count the day OF approval and start the clock the next full business day.

7-10 business days would make me think that you should have it in your account today/tomorrow.

Support isn't really going to tell you anything anyway. Don't get me wrong, I'm sympathetic as I too am still waiting for a withdrawl approved on the 1st. But we all need to just chill and wait the full 10 business days before we start sounding alarm bells.

Which Bank holiday would those be? EUROPEAN? LATIN AMERICAN? What? All world banking shuts down because one country has a holiday? I don't think so. I work for a Bank and I must have missed this holiday.

 

[Nifty29]

Which Bank holiday would those be? EUROPEAN? LATIN AMERICAN? What? All world banking shuts down because one country has a holiday? I don't think so. I work for a Bank and I must have missed this holiday.

UK. I guess if its not a US bank its unimportant eh?

For someone who works in a bank, you sure don't seem to know much about how money moves around the world.

 

[daveboz]

UK. I guess if its not a US bank its unimportant eh?

For someone who works in a bank, you sure don't seem to know much about how money moves around the world.

what i do know is that it doesn't stop once its been processed. Prior to this Bank holiday until it gets to the end destination if it arrives on a holiday it posts the next business day. Money in transit does not just freeze. Once it is out of suspense and enroute there could be three bank holidays in a row and it wouldn't matter. The only holdups are if your request is done on a holiday or they couldn't post the deposit until the day after a holiday. These are international processors anyway. Probably one of those N African Gold processors.

 

[daveboz]

I will give them the benefit of the 3rd because in all likliehood these casinos ACTUALLY process withdrawals once a week anyway no matter when you request it.

 

[Nifty29]

what i do know is that it doesn't stop once its been processed. Prior to this Bank holiday until it gets to the end destination if it arrives on a holiday it posts the next business day. Money in transit does not just freeze. Once it is out of suspense and enroute there could be three bank holidays in a row and it wouldn't matter. The only holdups are if your request is done on a holiday or they couldn't post the deposit until the day after a holiday. These are international processors anyway. Probably one of those N African Gold processors.

As I said, for someone who works in a bank.....

 

[Sefmalmz]

I had an withdrawal approved on 5/25 from lucky red that i still havent recieved

i've emailed them twice and they have been straitforward with me and i have no reason to think that i won't get paid.It sucks waiting,but thats just the way it is.I trust CWC,they have always treated me very well.

 

[daveboz]

Why am I not surprised?

14 business days (US).

I will refrain for now posting email from cashier who said all those who had withdrawals processed through this most recent processor have been paid. We know now this is not the case per other members comments on the status of their payout requests.

 

[Nifty29]

14 business days (US).

I will refrain for now posting email from cashier who said all those who had withdrawals processed through this most recent processor have been paid. We know now this is not the case per other members comments on the status of their payout requests.

Hello! McFly!!

The money that ends up with you goes through several intermediary banks some of which may be in the UK. There were 2 bank holidays in the UK which must be allowed for in the calculations.

Remember, when the cashier "processes" the cashout it doesn't go straight into the banking system....it goes to the processor. How it actually gets to you usually involves the moving around of money and this is out of the casino's control.

I can't believe I'm explaining this to a bank employee.

 

[daveboz]

Hello! McFly!!

The money that ends up with you goes through several intermediary banks some of which may be in the UK. There were 2 bank holidays in the UK which must be allowed for in the calculations.

Remember, when the cashier "processes" the cashout it doesn't go straight into the banking system....it goes to the processor. How it actually gets to you usually involves the moving around of money and this is out of the casino's control.

I can't believe I'm explaining this to a bank employee.

You got a big mouth ace.

Not everyone in the banking industry works in operations and or deposit management.

 

[shell59]

CWC 14 BUSINESS DAYS FOR ME ALSO

I did not receive my withdrawal that was approved on 5/31 either. I also got all the different stories. I first got an email telling me it was approved and I would get it 1 to 3 business days. The next response to my email when I did not get my money was wait 3 to 5 business days this went on and on....
I had no idea about any meltdown or QT problems all I knew was I was not getting my money that I was expecting. I was going to pay a bill and told the bill company when I could pay but I did not get my money. There are players that have no idea about any problems or issues and if you are told you will get your money a certain day you expect it on that day. I don't know why anyone would be condemned for bringing this up in a casino forum. Isn't this where you should talk about these issues? Are you only suppose to talk about happy things. Club World gave me my withdrawals fast in the past so that is what I expected. I want to hear how long it takes for people to get their money. So I can know when to expect mine. Thanks for keeping us posted Dave.

 

[Nifty29]

You got a big mouth ace.

Not everyone in the banking industry works in operations and or deposit management.

Really? I didn't know that.

I'm pointing out that you continually ignore all attempts to relay the facts of the payment delay situation to you.

You just keep bleating on about how they are "gonna stiff you" and that they're probably "full of it" and that they only "process withdrawals once a week".

Sorry, but you just have no clue at all. It does not, however, mean that you can drag a reputable operators' name through the mud and expect everyone to sit back and say nothing.

I may have a big mouth, but you have incredibly small ears.

 

[ksech]

@shell, have you not been reading the QT threads in the America the Beautiful section? I can't believe you weren't aware of the ewallet problems since this has been an ongoing problem/issue for several months.

@nifty, why are you bothering with this guy? All he has ever done is "bash" the casinos in thread after thread. He exhibits a tunnel-vision view of how all the casinos are out to screw him over.

I personally think, if ANY US player is getting paid at all they should be thankful. Yes, US players are going to have to accept (if they wish to continue playing) that the rules for withdrawals have now changed. There will be less and less "fast" withdrawals and more longer waits for withdrawals to be processed and paid. It's going to be the "trend" for those who still wish to take the gamble of relying on an ewallet/ACH or whatever your choice of withdrawal method is used. And then you will have the "worry" of, is the government is going to seize your money that is sitting in an ewallet?

I've been through the NeTeller/click2pay/QT thing. It just isn't worth it, until legislation changes. The casinos know this, and for those who are willing to still take the chance, you must accept this is how it is going to be.

 

[4 of a kind]

I was going to pay a bill and told the bill company when I could pay but I did not get my money.

I'm really surprised how many times I read in posts how many punters are constantly bitching about not being able to pay bills because of online casino delays and or no payments at all from them.

My personal view of these complaints about not being able to pay bills is a serious indication that just maybe you shouldn't be gambling in the first place.

In addition, if your still willing to risk any of your money playing online out of the USA knowing damn well what's going on today, Bryan should ban everyone from the USA from complaining about payment delays.

Most logical non-compulsive gamblers in the USA will agree that any risk of not getting paid is not worth any deposit. This should make sense even to the low rollers. I would also assume that most high rollers are long gone from the online USA market except for the seriously ill degenerates.

I also believe this is a time that online casinos still banking on USA action have a perfect alibi to stroke or screw the remaining compulsive gamblers. Let's be real here and realize if the USA market dries up for the casino banking on that market, they too will dry up.

Everything about banking online casino transactions has been exposed. The few sneaky still existing processors for USA players know damn well their next. Even future new ideas will be exposed since it's all pretty much in the open for all to read about in multiple forums.

Does anyone here actually believe that any processor still moving money into the USA would leave millions of dollars in any account they own that the USA can link them too? They probably deposit on demand to these accounts and only risk minimal balances for payments. If they clear then they'll do the next batch. This could lead to endless delays if millions are still playing from the USA. One would guess that 75% of USA players won't risk their money anymore, and look at the delays going on now with minimal action.

Bottom line in my opinion is, if your still gaming online from the USA maybe it's time to call 1-800-GAMBLER.

 

[daveboz]

@shell, have you not been reading the QT threads in the America the Beautiful section? I can't believe you weren't aware of the ewallet problems since this has been an ongoing problem/issue for several months.

@nifty, why are you bothering with this guy? All he has ever done is "bash" the casinos in thread after thread. He exhibits a tunnel-vision view of how all the casinos are out to screw him over.

I personally think, if ANY US player is getting paid at all they should be thankful. Yes, US players are going to have to accept (if they wish to continue playing) that the rules for withdrawals have now changed. There will be less and less "fast" withdrawals and more longer waits for withdrawals to be processed and paid. It's going to be the "trend" for those who still wish to take the gamble of relying on an ewallet/ACH or whatever your choice of withdrawal method is used. And then you will have the "worry" of, is the government is going to seize your money that is sitting in an ewallet?

I've been through the NeTeller/click2pay/QT thing. It just isn't worth it, until legislation changes. The casinos know this, and for those who are willing to still take the chance, you must accept this is how it is going to be.

"Yes, US players are going to have to accept (if they wish to continue playing) "


Ok so if I don't accept and don't wish to play anymore that means I should not expect to receive any casino balances held at online casinos since the big industry setback either? We're not talking about recent deposits and winnings.

 

[Nifty29]

"Yes, US players are going to have to accept (if they wish to continue playing) "


Ok so if I don't accept and don't wish to play anymore that means I should not expect to receive any casino balances held at online casinos since the big industry setback either? We're not talking about recent deposits and winnings.

Anyone who keeps large balances in their casino accounts has rocks in their head.

The recent problems are a good example of why.

 

[ksech]

"Yes, US players are going to have to accept (if they wish to continue playing) "


Ok so if I don't accept and don't wish to play anymore that means I should not expect to receive any casino balances held at online casinos since the big industry setback either? We're not talking about recent deposits and winnings.

I'm saying...Be thankful if you DO receive any payments after all that has gone down in the last few months. I believe shell59 was was referring to a recent withdrawal(May isn't a recent deposit/withdrawal?). This forum is a huge information highway if people are willing to take the time to do a little research first. It doesn't cost you anything but time to be better informed. And with all that is happening with ewallets and processors, you are more of a gambler than I am.

It's one thing to make a valid complaint, but you don't seem to be able to find "peace" with any place you've played. 4 of a kind has painted a perfect scenerio of playing from the US, IMHO.

I sincerely hope you ALL receive your winnings. I'm just thinking that I wouldn't count my chickens before they are hatched. You've made the choice to continue to play even though you now know the stakes you are up against. Perhaps, working on a viable solution with the casinos would put your time to better use, since you seem to not want to "hear" what some members have to contribute.

 

[shell59]

Really!!!

I'm really surprised how many times I read in posts how many punters are constantly bitching about not being able to pay bills because of online casino delays and or no payments at all from them.

My personal view of these complaints about not being able to pay bills is a serious indication that just maybe you shouldn't be gambling in the first place.

In addition, if your still willing to risk any of your money playing online out of the USA knowing damn well what's going on today, Bryan should ban everyone from the USA from complaining about payment delays.

Most logical non-compulsive gamblers in the USA will agree that any risk of not getting paid is not worth any deposit. This should make sense even to the low rollers. I would also assume that most high rollers are long gone from the online USA market except for the seriously ill degenerates.

I also believe this is a time that online casinos still banking on USA action have a perfect alibi to stroke or screw the remaining compulsive gamblers. Let's be real here and realize if the USA market dries up for the casino banking on that market, they too will dry up.

Everything about banking online casino transactions has been exposed. The few sneaky still existing processors for USA players know damn well their next. Even future new ideas will be exposed since it's all pretty much in the open for all to read about in multiple forums.

Does anyone here actually believe that any processor still moving money into the USA would leave millions of dollars in any account they own that the USA can link them too? They probably deposit on demand to these accounts and only risk minimal balances for payments. If they clear then they'll do the next batch. This could lead to endless delays if millions are still playing from the USA. One would guess that 75% of USA players won't risk their money anymore, and look at the delays going on now with minimal action.

Bottom line in my opinion is, if your still gaming online from the USA maybe it's time to call 1-800-GAMBLER.

This is my first or second post in this forum and I have been insulted three or four times by you because I had concerns about my withdrawal. I can't believe how rude and inconsiderate your post is. I have money for my bills, you have no idea my financial situation nor do I feel like I need to explain it to you. I do not spend all my time on forums I have a busy life so no I didn't know about any fiascoes. And since I can't get my withdrawals on time I probably won't be using online casinos anymore. I can drive right up the road to the Indian casino they are all over the place if I feel like I want to gamble. Online gambling was convenient. I think someone who spends all their time on a gambling casino forum insulting people and spewing out statistics like the have spent every waking breathing moment in an online casinos should probably be calling 1-800-Gambler or maybe getting a life period. No I am not a high roller I deposit maybe $40 or $50.00 dollars a month so no it isn't going to break my bank. The reason I went to CWC in the first place was Casinomeister and trying to research before going somewhere I couldn't trust. You don't know me at all, how can you sit there and judge me, my finances, my gambling patterns and spending habits, personality and come to all these conclusions. Do you always treat people you don't know like this? I feel very sorry for you, you are obviously a miserable person.

 

[jod5413]

This is my first or second post in this forum and I have been insulted three or four times by you because I had concerns about my withdrawal. I can't believe how rude and inconsiderate your post is. I have money for my bills, you have no idea my financial situation nor do I feel like I need to explain it to you. I do not spend all my time on forums I have a busy life so no I didn't know about any fiascoes. And since I can't get my withdrawals on time I probably won't be using online casinos anymore. I can drive right up the road to the Indian casino they are all over the place if I feel like I want to gamble. Online gambling was convenient. I think someone who spends all their time on a gambling casino forum insulting people and spewing out statistics like the have spent every waking breathing moment in an online casinos should probably be calling 1-800-Gambler or maybe getting a life period. No I am not a high roller I deposit maybe $40 or $50.00 dollars a month so no it isn't going to break my bank. The reason I went to CWC in the first place was Casinomeister and trying to research before going somewhere I couldn't trust. You don't know me at all, how can you sit there and judge me, my finances, my gambling patterns and spending habits, personality and come to all these conclusions. Do you always treat people you don't know like this? I feel very sorry for you, you are obviously a miserable person.

Shell59, I do not think you should take posts you read too seriously. Like any other gambling forum (actually any type of forum), we have passionate members that get too involved. They don't mean to cause harm, but sometimes they do. I have been at both ends of the posting line. I have been hurt, embarrassed, pissed off sometimes, and I have hurt and pissed off my fair share of members, also. But you just have to take things with a grain of salt, or a very strong shot of whiskey, shrug and IGNORE those who upset you.

These really are volatile times we on line gamblers deal with. Some can quit, some can but don't want to, and some just can't stop. Whichever you are, be very careful and try to get good out the posts so you can try to stay out of trouble.

JMO

 

[4 of a kind]

This is my first or second post in this forum and I have been insulted three or four times by you because I had concerns about my withdrawal. I can't believe how rude and inconsiderate your post is. I have money for my bills, you have no idea my financial situation nor do I feel like I need to explain it to you. I do not spend all my time on forums I have a busy life so no I didn't know about any fiascoes. And since I can't get my withdrawals on time I probably won't be using online casinos anymore. I can drive right up the road to the Indian casino they are all over the place if I feel like I want to gamble. Online gambling was convenient. I think someone who spends all their time on a gambling casino forum insulting people and spewing out statistics like the have spent every waking breathing moment in an online casinos should probably be calling 1-800-Gambler or maybe getting a life period. No I am not a high roller I deposit maybe $40 or $50.00 dollars a month so no it isn't going to break my bank. The reason I went to CWC in the first place was Casinomeister and trying to research before going somewhere I couldn't trust. You don't know me at all, how can you sit there and judge me, my finances, my gambling patterns and spending habits, personality and come to all these conclusions. Do you always treat people you don't know like this? I feel very sorry for you, you are obviously a miserable person.

Sorry, Shell59 that you feel my post was personally directed towards you. Although I quoted your own quote about not being able to pay a bill without online casino winnings not received, I really was just using your text as a reference for the very many other members who in the past complained of the same paying bill problem caused by not receiving their cash outs in time from online casinos. In fact my exact words were QUOTE: “I'm really surprised how many times I read in posts how many punters are constantly bitching about not being able to pay bills because of online casino delays and or no payments at all from them.”

You also mentioned that I insulted you 3 or 4 times in the past about your withdrawal concerns. Since this is the only thread I posted in that you also did, please bring to my attention where these insults took place, since I would still owe you at least 3 more apologies.

I understand you have a busy life, (unlike me) and don’t spend much time on forums and obviously was unaware of any fiascos. But in the last two days you posted in 4 different threads bitching about CWC and your 5/31 cash out not received yet. In addition I’m certain you are now aware of the issues facing USA players and processing funds, yet you made a post earlier today about CWC saying QUOTE: “If good customer service is a condition of accreditation then they should definitely be taken off the list.” After obviously becoming aware here about the USA market conditions, how could you possibly make that statement today?

Regardless, I still stand on my opinion that any person knowing what’s going on and still are willing to risk deposits gambling online at this present time from the USA; forget about 1-800-GAMBLER, make an appointment with a medical doctor.

I do hope you receive your deposit soon and do believe you will eventually. Also, I hope you take your own advice in the future, QUOTE: “And since I can't get my withdrawals on time I probably won't be using online casinos anymore.”

Good luck whatever you decide to do.

 

[daveboz]

I'm saying...Be thankful if you DO receive any payments after all that has gone down in the last few months. I believe shell59 was was referring to a recent withdrawal(May isn't a recent deposit/withdrawal?). This forum is a huge information highway if people are willing to take the time to do a little research first. It doesn't cost you anything but time to be better informed. And with all that is happening with ewallets and processors, you are more of a gambler than I am.

It's one thing to make a valid complaint, but you don't seem to be able to find "peace" with any place you've played. 4 of a kind has painted a perfect scenerio of playing from the US, IMHO.


I've never had a problem with a withdrawal before. Furthermore, it came at a time where I hit every winner imaginable! I'm sure anyone else who finally hit a jackpot would feel the same stress.

 

[daveboz]

I think its safe to say that many RTG casinos do not want to lose the US business. I'm pretty sure my fellow countryman are still some of the biggest depositors for online gaming. If the last few weeks of withdrawals get stiffed it will be disastrous for the particular casinos bottom line. They will be hiring the guy from "cool cat casino" to stay afloat due to the loss of USA business.

 

[shell59]

Out of Context

In addition I’m certain you are now aware of the issues facing USA players and processing funds, yet you made a post earlier today about CWC saying QUOTE: “If good customer service is a condition of accreditation then they should definitely be taken off the list.” After obviously becoming aware here about the USA market conditions, how could you possibly make that statement today?

Did you read the whole post??? I was saying they did not return my email. I believe it is good customer service to acknowledge an email. They may have a problem sending people their funds but I don't think their fingers are broken. It's very strange that someone could be so concerned about one persons complaint against a casino. You act like you own the place.

 

[jod5413]

In addition I’m certain you are now aware of the issues facing USA players and processing funds, yet you made a post earlier today about CWC saying QUOTE: “If good customer service is a condition of accreditation then they should definitely be taken off the list.” After obviously becoming aware here about the USA market conditions, how could you possibly make that statement today?

Did you read the whole post??? I was saying they did not return my email. I believe it is good customer service to acknowledge an email. They may have a problem sending people their funds but I don't think their fingers are broken. It's very strange that someone could be so concerned about one persons complaint against a casino. You act like you own the place.

OK Shell, I tried to get you to "see the light" with my earlier post. Obviously you are hard headed. Otherwise you would catch on to what folks are saying.

4OAK pretty much is being straight with you. He is trying to give you advice, because you obviously need help. Anyone in the USA that gambles, is facing problems with deposits and withdrawals, they are also being kept up in the air on when their money will get to them. If you are not willing to listen to some pretty good advice, then I would say, don't bother posting or don't get upset when people address you here.

(And don't get all mushy with me here, 4OAK. I actually do think you are sort of smart! )

 

[Papa-ya]

In all fairness to Dave and Shell, there experience is a good indication to all US players how avenues and events are winding down for the US player. I don't for one minute fault any player who wishes to play to the bitter end, that's an individual and personal choice.
Hearing the ongoing experinces of players to me is a matter of historical significance and it could turn either way. Our individuality simply means we all come up to speed at different times.

So for those who still play, I don't mind hearing their experiences, good or bad, it's like getting an ongoing feel of the temperature in the water.

Shell's comment about the bills and not getting her withdrawal, I understood what was being conveyed. Simply that when you have always gotten something faithfully, you may decide to use it for a purpose that will benefit you in some way, such as paying a bill, not that the bill was depending on the payment, rather than spending it back to a casino. Many members here have posted some of what they do or pay with their winnings and her post to me was no different, just that she was looking forward to doing this and it is turning out to be doing that instead.

So take it easy on those who are still out there and reporting back their experiences, some of us do appreciate it.

However one thing to keep in mind and many members ignore this, is a casino shouldn't be named without permission from the casino, this is in the forum rules. So state your experiences, the fact that it's a casino, accredited or rogue, is good enough to know.

I just wanted to add, those who are still playing are our commrades in the gamblers world, not the diehard dredges of society that need medical attention or GA meetings. They are us and once we were them and hope to be there again, isn't that what we are all waiting for anyways.