Club World Casinos -- Payments are taking considerably longer to be received

[kikibo]

Okay...I'm very frustrated. Today is business day 11 and still no ACH deposit in the bank. I went on chat to see what was up and was told they would have to send my inquiry to the cashier department to put a trace on the ACH. I was under the impression this was done last Friday when I called to check... I think I'm getting the runaround....

 

[kikibo]

Finally received my payout

Okay...I'm very frustrated. Today is business day 11 and still no ACH deposit in the bank. I went on chat to see what was up and was told they would have to send my inquiry to the cashier department to put a trace on the ACH. I was under the impression this was done last Friday when I called to check... I think I'm getting the runaround....

I just wanted to give an update. I did confirm with my bank this morning that I did receive my ACH deposit today. 11th business day

Dave...Hopefully yours will be there tomorrow!

 

[Diane]

I won a bit today at Aladdin's Gold and requested a check by courier. So now I will begin the countdown to see how long that method takes.

I asked today about ACH timeframes and CS told me "at least 10 business days". When I asked about check by courier, I was told it would be "quicker". So I selected that. Will begin the countdown once it gets "approved" which should be tomorrow. Free option as long as $750 cashed out minimum, otherwise a $20 fee is charged.

FWIW,

Diane

 

[daveboz]

Sounds a follow up is necessary to get ball rollin at Club World

Please wait for a site operator to respond.

You are now chatting with 'Lydia'

Lydia: hello, how are you today?

david : Hi there was following up on a withdrawal from the 31st. Still have not received...

Lydia: checking your account, one moment please

Lydia: okay was it for the amount of $4000

david : yes

Lydia: okay what i'll do is inform the cashier about this and see if they can follow this up for you and they will be able to get back to you about this through email as soon as possible

david : ok is there anything i need to know about?

Lydia: no theres nothing you need to worry, about ACH used to take 5 working days but now its takes up to 7-10 working thats why but you should receive it any day now, i will however inform the cashier to have a look at this for you

david : ok thank you

Lydia: your welcome

Lydia: bye bye for now

david : see ya

 

[milemaster]

I'm stiill waiting as well.

My request was made on June 1st, and processed on June 6th due to holidays and a weekend. Today marks two weeks since my withdrawl request.

Contacted chat today and was told:

Andrea: Ok i can see the withdrawal was approved on 6/6/2011 12:06:52 PM. Ach Withdrawal takes 7-10 working days so it may be in your bank account tomorrow or monday at the very latest

 

[daveboz]

My request was made on June 1st, and processed on June 6th due to holidays and a weekend. Today marks two weeks since my withdrawl request.

Contacted chat today and was told:

Andrea: Ok i can see the withdrawal was approved on 6/6/2011 12:06:52 PM. Ach Withdrawal takes 7-10 working days so it may be in your bank account tomorrow or monday at the very latest

I never received an email from the cashier regarding my request. If I were you I would be thinking next Wednesday at the earliest. Chances of you receiving an ACH this Friday are nil imo.

 

[footdr]

CS at CW

My withdrawal ACH finally approved on 5/31/11 and told would take 3-5 days I still haven't received in my bank account. Support advised today it is now takin 7-10 days.
Today was 10 days so they said to contact the cashier.

I have contacted the cashier via email and never have recieved a reply. This is bull.

 

[Nifty29]

I know its already been said, but I'm not sure the message is getting through.

If you are a US player, you will experience significant delays in receiving funds. It sucks, but that's the reality.

Emailing and chatting isn't going to make it arrive any faster....there is nothing the CSRs can do except contact the cashier who can't do anything once the cashout is processed. If they say ten days then allow for fifteen etc.....that's just the way things are.

My educated guess is that they have to funnel the cash through even more intermediary banks before the ACTUAL ach/wire is directly sent to you, as a result of all the recent seizures.

I know its annoying, but harassing support and being negative about CWC is unreasonable and altogether pointless.

It is also quite possible that cashouts are SLOWER due to the cashiers having to spend time dealing with lots of unnecessary follow up so it may well be that some players are crapping in their own nest.

 

[footdr]

Really

When you are told that you will receive your ach by X date and it doesn't arrive, then your are told another date and it doesnt arrive, it sounds to me as if they don't know squat!.

Unless you have a pending withdrawal, what you have to say is of no importance.

I am glad to hear that someone has atleast recieved their ACh, that is good information. It is important information.

 

[footdr]

My take........

I never received an email from the cashier regarding my request. If I were you I would be thinking next Wednesday at the earliest. Chances of you receiving an ACH this Friday are nil imo.

My withdrawal approved may 31st. told would recieve in 3 days and last week told no later than friday June 10th and today told should be anyday but I might want to email cashier, which I have numerous times and recieved no reply.

I am sure we will be paid someday, the question is when. If they have no idea then they should say so and they should also answer emails.

 

[Nifty29]

When you are told that you will receive your ach by X date and it doesn't arrive, then your are told another date and it doesnt arrive, it sounds to me as if they don't know squat!.

Unless you have a pending withdrawal, what you have to say is of no importance.

I am glad to hear that someone has atleast recieved their ACh, that is good information. It is important information.

LOL. I'll keep that in mind.

 

[footdr]

I am sure you won't. You sit online waiting to attack any little thing you can. Your scum.

 

[greedygirl]

I'd written this in reply to a member's question over at GoneGambling. I think it will be just as helpful here, for everyone to understand what's happening...

ACH payments definitely are slower and this is for different reasons. First, ACH processors can only take in a relatively small amount of money to disburse to players (typically between $50,000 - $100,000). The reason for this is to lessen the risk involved, should the money be seized. With this money, the processor will only make payments up to $2500 per player at one shot. Most casinos only have access to one or two ACH processors at any given time. So imagine if a casino has 100 players to be paid and those 100 players have $200,000 due to them. This basically creates a backlog of payments. Essentially, it’s a big waiting list and the casino has no control or knowledge of where you are sitting on that list. The good news is that even with this being slower, with ACH processing, should the money end up being seized, the casino will still take care of the players, using a different ACH processor. Of course, this just slows the process down, even more.

A bit more to add to this...

I'm a big fan of the CW brands. I know the owner has been hit hard by seized funds, but continues to do the right thing by finding alternative processors to ensure players get their withdrawals. Further, trust that the last thing ANY reputable operator wants is these sort of delays--CW is no different.

When all is said and done, it's a crappy situation in the U.S. For the moment, you need to understand that should you be lucky enough to have a win, you'll need to be patient. If you can't afford to be patient, my advice would be don't play.

 

[daveboz]

I'd written this in reply to a member's question over at GoneGambling. I think it will be just as helpful here, for everyone to understand what's happening...



A bit more to add to this...

I'm a big fan of the CW brands. I know the owner has been hit hard by seized funds, but continues to do the right thing by finding alternative processors to ensure players get their withdrawals. Further, trust that the last thing ANY reputable operator wants is these sort of delays--CW is no different.

When all is said and done, it's a crappy situation in the U.S. For the moment, you need to understand that should you be lucky enough to have a win, you'll need to be patient. If you can't afford to be patient, my advice would be don't play.

Hit hard by seized funds? CWG? You expect us to believe the owner of the group is making players whole for those funds they willingly transferred to QT? LOL! Or are you saying CWG itself has sent funds which were seized?

I'm now waiting for that excuse! Talk about being able to weasel out of a payout! That would suck!

 

[Nifty29]

Hit hard by seized funds? CWG? You expect us to believe the owner of the group is making players whole for those funds they willingly transferred to QT? LOL! Or are you saying CWG itself has sent funds which were seized?

I'm now waiting for that excuse! Talk about being able to weasel out of a payout! That would suck!

I suggest you read her post again.

You are inferring that CW are looking for ways to avoid payment when the reality is exactly the opposite.

QT is the latest seizure, but it isn't the only one. Many casinos lost their funds via seized processors.

 

[greedygirl]

Hit hard by seized funds? CWG? You expect us to believe the owner of the group is making players whole for those funds they willingly transferred to QT? LOL! Or are you saying CWG itself has sent funds which were seized?

Sorry--perhaps I wasn't clear on that. What I was speaking about was ACH transactions. As far as QT is concerned, that's an entirely different animal and I can't say what to expect with that, from CWG or any other operator for that matter.

Remember, with QT, no operator can possibly know what funds a player may or may not have withdrawn from QT.

 

[anniemac]

We US players that are determined to keep on playing are going to have to learn patience. The casinos that are still letting us play, CW, Jackpot Group, are doing the best that they can to get us paid. Nothing is going to work like it use to. So if you can't stand the wait, you had better not play. And by the way, I am still playing.

CS doesn't know anything about payment times etc. You can email all you want and they won't be able to give you a good answer. They just don't know, plain and simple. They try to make you happy by telling you something. Would it be better if they said "Ain't got a clue?". Bashing CW isn't going to make them be able to get your money to you any quicker.

We, being US citizens, voted these jackasses into office and now we are all eating the same S**t sandwich. Looks like we are going to be forced to eat it crust and all and like it. Isn't it wonderful that we have a government that takes such good care of us?

 

[daveboz]

Internet Chat ladies nice but management actions bordering on rogue imo

no payout again...

All operators are currently assisting others. Thanks for your patience. An operator will be with you shortly.

You are now chatting with 'Lydia'

Lydia: Hello, how are you today?

david: Hi Lydia how you doing

Lydia: im great thanks, how may i help you today?

david: Well I stilll have not received my payout and never did receive a communique from CWG yesterday regarding it.

Lydia: how much was the withdrawal request for?

david: $4,000

Lydia: okay have you emailed the cashier about this yet?

david : cmon Lydia I was told by you yesterday you were going to chase it down for me and have the cashier email me. There were no issues just that it was taking ten business days now. We are now day 12

Lydia: if i told you ive sent the email to the cashier for you then i have, the best for you is to wait for the cashier response, they are the only ones who have the access t check this for you

Lydia: i always do when players ask me to do that for them even though they can do it themselves aswell, i do send the email for them aswell

david : not accusng you of anything this has just been a bit frustrating thanks

Lydia: i undeerstand

Lydia: understand* and we very sorry for the delay

Lydia: but you should definitely receive your cashout

david : I will email the cashier. I understand others have not received a response from the cashier on recent withdrawal requests either per some internet blogs ok i will wait

Lydia: thank you

Lydia: bye bye for now

 

[LHofsdal]

Hope you get your withdrawal soon, I know it is frustrating. Patience is the name of the game now, and I know it is hard to patient this long. Keep us posted.

LH

 

[daveboz]

Hope you get your withdrawal soon, I know it is frustrating. Patience is the name of the game now, and I know it is hard to patient this long. Keep us posted.

LH

Received a reply from Steven this morning which was nice. Sounds like the new processor they're using is taking too long and they are switching. Can't call the funds back though they say. We will see how this pans out. I hope I don't here your funds were seized excuse. a casino could just sa what they want. What is any player going to do about it? Whether USA or Europe.

 

[Nifty29]

Received a reply from Steven this morning which was nice. Sounds like the new processor they're using is taking too long and they are switching. Can't call the funds back though they say. We will see how this pans out. I hope I don't here your funds were seized excuse. a casino could just sa what they want. What is any player going to do about it? Whether USA or Europe.

See?

Now was it REALLY necessary to throw around words like "rogue" ?

You had the situation clearly explained by greedygirl and others but you obviously just ignored it, or you wouldn't have kept carrying on about it.

I don't see any point sharing problems on a forum if you aren't going to listen to anyone

 

[daveboz]

See?

Now was it REALLY necessary to throw around words like "rogue" ?

You had the situation clearly explained by greedygirl and others but you obviously just ignored it, or you wouldn't have kept carrying on about it.


I don't see any point sharing problems on a forum if you aren't going to listen to anyone

Just reporting back that he replied. Still don't have the money yet. My point is if they choose to stiff you what could you do about it? They could still be full of it

 

[Nifty29]

Just reporting back that he replied. Still don't have the money yet. My point is if they choose to stiff you what could you do about it? They could still be full of it

I rest my case.

 

[daveboz]

13 days....

Sent inquiry to casino rep

 

[milemaster]

Don't forget the holidays

13 days....

Sent inquiry to casino rep

It's actually been 11 business days as there was a bank holiday on the 2nd and on the 13th.

Technically 10 full business days if you don't count the day OF approval and start the clock the next full business day.

7-10 business days would make me think that you should have it in your account today/tomorrow.

Support isn't really going to tell you anything anyway. Don't get me wrong, I'm sympathetic as I too am still waiting for a withdrawl approved on the 1st. But we all need to just chill and wait the full 10 business days before we start sounding alarm bells.

 

[Nifty29]

It's actually been 11 business days as there was a bank holiday on the 2nd and on the 13th.

Technically 10 full business days if you don't count the day OF approval and start the clock the next full business day.

7-10 business days would make me think that you should have it in your account today/tomorrow.

Support isn't really going to tell you anything anyway. Don't get me wrong, I'm sympathetic as I too am still waiting for a withdrawl approved on the 1st. But we all need to just chill and wait the full 10 business days before we start sounding alarm bells.

I doubt that someone who thinks they're gonna get stiffed is likely to consider such things. I mean, if the casino is "full of it" then it doesn't really matter does it

 

[daveboz]

It's actually been 11 business days as there was a bank holiday on the 2nd and on the 13th.

Technically 10 full business days if you don't count the day OF approval and start the clock the next full business day.

7-10 business days would make me think that you should have it in your account today/tomorrow.

Support isn't really going to tell you anything anyway. Don't get me wrong, I'm sympathetic as I too am still waiting for a withdrawl approved on the 1st. But we all need to just chill and wait the full 10 business days before we start sounding alarm bells.

Which Bank holiday would those be? EUROPEAN? LATIN AMERICAN? What? All world banking shuts down because one country has a holiday? I don't think so. I work for a Bank and I must have missed this holiday.

 

[Nifty29]

Which Bank holiday would those be? EUROPEAN? LATIN AMERICAN? What? All world banking shuts down because one country has a holiday? I don't think so. I work for a Bank and I must have missed this holiday.

UK. I guess if its not a US bank its unimportant eh?

For someone who works in a bank, you sure don't seem to know much about how money moves around the world.

 

[daveboz]

UK. I guess if its not a US bank its unimportant eh?

For someone who works in a bank, you sure don't seem to know much about how money moves around the world.

what i do know is that it doesn't stop once its been processed. Prior to this Bank holiday until it gets to the end destination if it arrives on a holiday it posts the next business day. Money in transit does not just freeze. Once it is out of suspense and enroute there could be three bank holidays in a row and it wouldn't matter. The only holdups are if your request is done on a holiday or they couldn't post the deposit until the day after a holiday. These are international processors anyway. Probably one of those N African Gold processors.

 

[daveboz]

I will give them the benefit of the 3rd because in all likliehood these casinos ACTUALLY process withdrawals once a week anyway no matter when you request it.

 

[Nifty29]

what i do know is that it doesn't stop once its been processed. Prior to this Bank holiday until it gets to the end destination if it arrives on a holiday it posts the next business day. Money in transit does not just freeze. Once it is out of suspense and enroute there could be three bank holidays in a row and it wouldn't matter. The only holdups are if your request is done on a holiday or they couldn't post the deposit until the day after a holiday. These are international processors anyway. Probably one of those N African Gold processors.

As I said, for someone who works in a bank.....

 

[Sefmalmz]

I had an withdrawal approved on 5/25 from lucky red that i still havent recieved

i've emailed them twice and they have been straitforward with me and i have no reason to think that i won't get paid.It sucks waiting,but thats just the way it is.I trust CWC,they have always treated me very well.

 

[daveboz]

Why am I not surprised?

14 business days (US).

I will refrain for now posting email from cashier who said all those who had withdrawals processed through this most recent processor have been paid. We know now this is not the case per other members comments on the status of their payout requests.

 

[Nifty29]

14 business days (US).

I will refrain for now posting email from cashier who said all those who had withdrawals processed through this most recent processor have been paid. We know now this is not the case per other members comments on the status of their payout requests.

Hello! McFly!!

The money that ends up with you goes through several intermediary banks some of which may be in the UK. There were 2 bank holidays in the UK which must be allowed for in the calculations.

Remember, when the cashier "processes" the cashout it doesn't go straight into the banking system....it goes to the processor. How it actually gets to you usually involves the moving around of money and this is out of the casino's control.

I can't believe I'm explaining this to a bank employee.

 

[daveboz]

Hello! McFly!!

The money that ends up with you goes through several intermediary banks some of which may be in the UK. There were 2 bank holidays in the UK which must be allowed for in the calculations.

Remember, when the cashier "processes" the cashout it doesn't go straight into the banking system....it goes to the processor. How it actually gets to you usually involves the moving around of money and this is out of the casino's control.

I can't believe I'm explaining this to a bank employee.

You got a big mouth ace.

Not everyone in the banking industry works in operations and or deposit management.

 

[shell59]

CWC 14 BUSINESS DAYS FOR ME ALSO

I did not receive my withdrawal that was approved on 5/31 either. I also got all the different stories. I first got an email telling me it was approved and I would get it 1 to 3 business days. The next response to my email when I did not get my money was wait 3 to 5 business days this went on and on....
I had no idea about any meltdown or QT problems all I knew was I was not getting my money that I was expecting. I was going to pay a bill and told the bill company when I could pay but I did not get my money. There are players that have no idea about any problems or issues and if you are told you will get your money a certain day you expect it on that day. I don't know why anyone would be condemned for bringing this up in a casino forum. Isn't this where you should talk about these issues? Are you only suppose to talk about happy things. Club World gave me my withdrawals fast in the past so that is what I expected. I want to hear how long it takes for people to get their money. So I can know when to expect mine. Thanks for keeping us posted Dave.

 

[Nifty29]

You got a big mouth ace.

Not everyone in the banking industry works in operations and or deposit management.

Really? I didn't know that.

I'm pointing out that you continually ignore all attempts to relay the facts of the payment delay situation to you.

You just keep bleating on about how they are "gonna stiff you" and that they're probably "full of it" and that they only "process withdrawals once a week".

Sorry, but you just have no clue at all. It does not, however, mean that you can drag a reputable operators' name through the mud and expect everyone to sit back and say nothing.

I may have a big mouth, but you have incredibly small ears.

 

[ksech]

@shell, have you not been reading the QT threads in the America the Beautiful section? I can't believe you weren't aware of the ewallet problems since this has been an ongoing problem/issue for several months.

@nifty, why are you bothering with this guy? All he has ever done is "bash" the casinos in thread after thread. He exhibits a tunnel-vision view of how all the casinos are out to screw him over.

I personally think, if ANY US player is getting paid at all they should be thankful. Yes, US players are going to have to accept (if they wish to continue playing) that the rules for withdrawals have now changed. There will be less and less "fast" withdrawals and more longer waits for withdrawals to be processed and paid. It's going to be the "trend" for those who still wish to take the gamble of relying on an ewallet/ACH or whatever your choice of withdrawal method is used. And then you will have the "worry" of, is the government is going to seize your money that is sitting in an ewallet?

I've been through the NeTeller/click2pay/QT thing. It just isn't worth it, until legislation changes. The casinos know this, and for those who are willing to still take the chance, you must accept this is how it is going to be.

 

[4 of a kind]

I was going to pay a bill and told the bill company when I could pay but I did not get my money.

I'm really surprised how many times I read in posts how many punters are constantly bitching about not being able to pay bills because of online casino delays and or no payments at all from them.

My personal view of these complaints about not being able to pay bills is a serious indication that just maybe you shouldn't be gambling in the first place.

In addition, if your still willing to risk any of your money playing online out of the USA knowing damn well what's going on today, Bryan should ban everyone from the USA from complaining about payment delays.

Most logical non-compulsive gamblers in the USA will agree that any risk of not getting paid is not worth any deposit. This should make sense even to the low rollers. I would also assume that most high rollers are long gone from the online USA market except for the seriously ill degenerates.

I also believe this is a time that online casinos still banking on USA action have a perfect alibi to stroke or screw the remaining compulsive gamblers. Let's be real here and realize if the USA market dries up for the casino banking on that market, they too will dry up.

Everything about banking online casino transactions has been exposed. The few sneaky still existing processors for USA players know damn well their next. Even future new ideas will be exposed since it's all pretty much in the open for all to read about in multiple forums.

Does anyone here actually believe that any processor still moving money into the USA would leave millions of dollars in any account they own that the USA can link them too? They probably deposit on demand to these accounts and only risk minimal balances for payments. If they clear then they'll do the next batch. This could lead to endless delays if millions are still playing from the USA. One would guess that 75% of USA players won't risk their money anymore, and look at the delays going on now with minimal action.

Bottom line in my opinion is, if your still gaming online from the USA maybe it's time to call 1-800-GAMBLER.

 

[daveboz]

@shell, have you not been reading the QT threads in the America the Beautiful section? I can't believe you weren't aware of the ewallet problems since this has been an ongoing problem/issue for several months.

@nifty, why are you bothering with this guy? All he has ever done is "bash" the casinos in thread after thread. He exhibits a tunnel-vision view of how all the casinos are out to screw him over.

I personally think, if ANY US player is getting paid at all they should be thankful. Yes, US players are going to have to accept (if they wish to continue playing) that the rules for withdrawals have now changed. There will be less and less "fast" withdrawals and more longer waits for withdrawals to be processed and paid. It's going to be the "trend" for those who still wish to take the gamble of relying on an ewallet/ACH or whatever your choice of withdrawal method is used. And then you will have the "worry" of, is the government is going to seize your money that is sitting in an ewallet?

I've been through the NeTeller/click2pay/QT thing. It just isn't worth it, until legislation changes. The casinos know this, and for those who are willing to still take the chance, you must accept this is how it is going to be.

"Yes, US players are going to have to accept (if they wish to continue playing) "


Ok so if I don't accept and don't wish to play anymore that means I should not expect to receive any casino balances held at online casinos since the big industry setback either? We're not talking about recent deposits and winnings.

 

[Nifty29]

"Yes, US players are going to have to accept (if they wish to continue playing) "


Ok so if I don't accept and don't wish to play anymore that means I should not expect to receive any casino balances held at online casinos since the big industry setback either? We're not talking about recent deposits and winnings.

Anyone who keeps large balances in their casino accounts has rocks in their head.

The recent problems are a good example of why.

 

[ksech]

"Yes, US players are going to have to accept (if they wish to continue playing) "


Ok so if I don't accept and don't wish to play anymore that means I should not expect to receive any casino balances held at online casinos since the big industry setback either? We're not talking about recent deposits and winnings.

I'm saying...Be thankful if you DO receive any payments after all that has gone down in the last few months. I believe shell59 was was referring to a recent withdrawal(May isn't a recent deposit/withdrawal?). This forum is a huge information highway if people are willing to take the time to do a little research first. It doesn't cost you anything but time to be better informed. And with all that is happening with ewallets and processors, you are more of a gambler than I am.

It's one thing to make a valid complaint, but you don't seem to be able to find "peace" with any place you've played. 4 of a kind has painted a perfect scenerio of playing from the US, IMHO.

I sincerely hope you ALL receive your winnings. I'm just thinking that I wouldn't count my chickens before they are hatched. You've made the choice to continue to play even though you now know the stakes you are up against. Perhaps, working on a viable solution with the casinos would put your time to better use, since you seem to not want to "hear" what some members have to contribute.

 

[shell59]

Really!!!

I'm really surprised how many times I read in posts how many punters are constantly bitching about not being able to pay bills because of online casino delays and or no payments at all from them.

My personal view of these complaints about not being able to pay bills is a serious indication that just maybe you shouldn't be gambling in the first place.

In addition, if your still willing to risk any of your money playing online out of the USA knowing damn well what's going on today, Bryan should ban everyone from the USA from complaining about payment delays.

Most logical non-compulsive gamblers in the USA will agree that any risk of not getting paid is not worth any deposit. This should make sense even to the low rollers. I would also assume that most high rollers are long gone from the online USA market except for the seriously ill degenerates.

I also believe this is a time that online casinos still banking on USA action have a perfect alibi to stroke or screw the remaining compulsive gamblers. Let's be real here and realize if the USA market dries up for the casino banking on that market, they too will dry up.

Everything about banking online casino transactions has been exposed. The few sneaky still existing processors for USA players know damn well their next. Even future new ideas will be exposed since it's all pretty much in the open for all to read about in multiple forums.

Does anyone here actually believe that any processor still moving money into the USA would leave millions of dollars in any account they own that the USA can link them too? They probably deposit on demand to these accounts and only risk minimal balances for payments. If they clear then they'll do the next batch. This could lead to endless delays if millions are still playing from the USA. One would guess that 75% of USA players won't risk their money anymore, and look at the delays going on now with minimal action.

Bottom line in my opinion is, if your still gaming online from the USA maybe it's time to call 1-800-GAMBLER.

This is my first or second post in this forum and I have been insulted three or four times by you because I had concerns about my withdrawal. I can't believe how rude and inconsiderate your post is. I have money for my bills, you have no idea my financial situation nor do I feel like I need to explain it to you. I do not spend all my time on forums I have a busy life so no I didn't know about any fiascoes. And since I can't get my withdrawals on time I probably won't be using online casinos anymore. I can drive right up the road to the Indian casino they are all over the place if I feel like I want to gamble. Online gambling was convenient. I think someone who spends all their time on a gambling casino forum insulting people and spewing out statistics like the have spent every waking breathing moment in an online casinos should probably be calling 1-800-Gambler or maybe getting a life period. No I am not a high roller I deposit maybe $40 or $50.00 dollars a month so no it isn't going to break my bank. The reason I went to CWC in the first place was Casinomeister and trying to research before going somewhere I couldn't trust. You don't know me at all, how can you sit there and judge me, my finances, my gambling patterns and spending habits, personality and come to all these conclusions. Do you always treat people you don't know like this? I feel very sorry for you, you are obviously a miserable person.

 

[jod5413]

This is my first or second post in this forum and I have been insulted three or four times by you because I had concerns about my withdrawal. I can't believe how rude and inconsiderate your post is. I have money for my bills, you have no idea my financial situation nor do I feel like I need to explain it to you. I do not spend all my time on forums I have a busy life so no I didn't know about any fiascoes. And since I can't get my withdrawals on time I probably won't be using online casinos anymore. I can drive right up the road to the Indian casino they are all over the place if I feel like I want to gamble. Online gambling was convenient. I think someone who spends all their time on a gambling casino forum insulting people and spewing out statistics like the have spent every waking breathing moment in an online casinos should probably be calling 1-800-Gambler or maybe getting a life period. No I am not a high roller I deposit maybe $40 or $50.00 dollars a month so no it isn't going to break my bank. The reason I went to CWC in the first place was Casinomeister and trying to research before going somewhere I couldn't trust. You don't know me at all, how can you sit there and judge me, my finances, my gambling patterns and spending habits, personality and come to all these conclusions. Do you always treat people you don't know like this? I feel very sorry for you, you are obviously a miserable person.

Shell59, I do not think you should take posts you read too seriously. Like any other gambling forum (actually any type of forum), we have passionate members that get too involved. They don't mean to cause harm, but sometimes they do. I have been at both ends of the posting line. I have been hurt, embarrassed, pissed off sometimes, and I have hurt and pissed off my fair share of members, also. But you just have to take things with a grain of salt, or a very strong shot of whiskey, shrug and IGNORE those who upset you.

These really are volatile times we on line gamblers deal with. Some can quit, some can but don't want to, and some just can't stop. Whichever you are, be very careful and try to get good out the posts so you can try to stay out of trouble.

JMO

 

[4 of a kind]

This is my first or second post in this forum and I have been insulted three or four times by you because I had concerns about my withdrawal. I can't believe how rude and inconsiderate your post is. I have money for my bills, you have no idea my financial situation nor do I feel like I need to explain it to you. I do not spend all my time on forums I have a busy life so no I didn't know about any fiascoes. And since I can't get my withdrawals on time I probably won't be using online casinos anymore. I can drive right up the road to the Indian casino they are all over the place if I feel like I want to gamble. Online gambling was convenient. I think someone who spends all their time on a gambling casino forum insulting people and spewing out statistics like the have spent every waking breathing moment in an online casinos should probably be calling 1-800-Gambler or maybe getting a life period. No I am not a high roller I deposit maybe $40 or $50.00 dollars a month so no it isn't going to break my bank. The reason I went to CWC in the first place was Casinomeister and trying to research before going somewhere I couldn't trust. You don't know me at all, how can you sit there and judge me, my finances, my gambling patterns and spending habits, personality and come to all these conclusions. Do you always treat people you don't know like this? I feel very sorry for you, you are obviously a miserable person.

Sorry, Shell59 that you feel my post was personally directed towards you. Although I quoted your own quote about not being able to pay a bill without online casino winnings not received, I really was just using your text as a reference for the very many other members who in the past complained of the same paying bill problem caused by not receiving their cash outs in time from online casinos. In fact my exact words were QUOTE: “I'm really surprised how many times I read in posts how many punters are constantly bitching about not being able to pay bills because of online casino delays and or no payments at all from them.”

You also mentioned that I insulted you 3 or 4 times in the past about your withdrawal concerns. Since this is the only thread I posted in that you also did, please bring to my attention where these insults took place, since I would still owe you at least 3 more apologies.

I understand you have a busy life, (unlike me) and don’t spend much time on forums and obviously was unaware of any fiascos. But in the last two days you posted in 4 different threads bitching about CWC and your 5/31 cash out not received yet. In addition I’m certain you are now aware of the issues facing USA players and processing funds, yet you made a post earlier today about CWC saying QUOTE: “If good customer service is a condition of accreditation then they should definitely be taken off the list.” After obviously becoming aware here about the USA market conditions, how could you possibly make that statement today?

Regardless, I still stand on my opinion that any person knowing what’s going on and still are willing to risk deposits gambling online at this present time from the USA; forget about 1-800-GAMBLER, make an appointment with a medical doctor.

I do hope you receive your deposit soon and do believe you will eventually. Also, I hope you take your own advice in the future, QUOTE: “And since I can't get my withdrawals on time I probably won't be using online casinos anymore.”

Good luck whatever you decide to do.

 

[daveboz]

I'm saying...Be thankful if you DO receive any payments after all that has gone down in the last few months. I believe shell59 was was referring to a recent withdrawal(May isn't a recent deposit/withdrawal?). This forum is a huge information highway if people are willing to take the time to do a little research first. It doesn't cost you anything but time to be better informed. And with all that is happening with ewallets and processors, you are more of a gambler than I am.

It's one thing to make a valid complaint, but you don't seem to be able to find "peace" with any place you've played. 4 of a kind has painted a perfect scenerio of playing from the US, IMHO.


I've never had a problem with a withdrawal before. Furthermore, it came at a time where I hit every winner imaginable! I'm sure anyone else who finally hit a jackpot would feel the same stress.

 

[daveboz]

I think its safe to say that many RTG casinos do not want to lose the US business. I'm pretty sure my fellow countryman are still some of the biggest depositors for online gaming. If the last few weeks of withdrawals get stiffed it will be disastrous for the particular casinos bottom line. They will be hiring the guy from "cool cat casino" to stay afloat due to the loss of USA business.

 

[shell59]

Out of Context

In addition I’m certain you are now aware of the issues facing USA players and processing funds, yet you made a post earlier today about CWC saying QUOTE: “If good customer service is a condition of accreditation then they should definitely be taken off the list.” After obviously becoming aware here about the USA market conditions, how could you possibly make that statement today?

Did you read the whole post??? I was saying they did not return my email. I believe it is good customer service to acknowledge an email. They may have a problem sending people their funds but I don't think their fingers are broken. It's very strange that someone could be so concerned about one persons complaint against a casino. You act like you own the place.

 

[jod5413]

In addition I’m certain you are now aware of the issues facing USA players and processing funds, yet you made a post earlier today about CWC saying QUOTE: “If good customer service is a condition of accreditation then they should definitely be taken off the list.” After obviously becoming aware here about the USA market conditions, how could you possibly make that statement today?

Did you read the whole post??? I was saying they did not return my email. I believe it is good customer service to acknowledge an email. They may have a problem sending people their funds but I don't think their fingers are broken. It's very strange that someone could be so concerned about one persons complaint against a casino. You act like you own the place.

OK Shell, I tried to get you to "see the light" with my earlier post. Obviously you are hard headed. Otherwise you would catch on to what folks are saying.

4OAK pretty much is being straight with you. He is trying to give you advice, because you obviously need help. Anyone in the USA that gambles, is facing problems with deposits and withdrawals, they are also being kept up in the air on when their money will get to them. If you are not willing to listen to some pretty good advice, then I would say, don't bother posting or don't get upset when people address you here.

(And don't get all mushy with me here, 4OAK. I actually do think you are sort of smart! )

 

[Papa-ya]

In all fairness to Dave and Shell, there experience is a good indication to all US players how avenues and events are winding down for the US player. I don't for one minute fault any player who wishes to play to the bitter end, that's an individual and personal choice.
Hearing the ongoing experinces of players to me is a matter of historical significance and it could turn either way. Our individuality simply means we all come up to speed at different times.

So for those who still play, I don't mind hearing their experiences, good or bad, it's like getting an ongoing feel of the temperature in the water.

Shell's comment about the bills and not getting her withdrawal, I understood what was being conveyed. Simply that when you have always gotten something faithfully, you may decide to use it for a purpose that will benefit you in some way, such as paying a bill, not that the bill was depending on the payment, rather than spending it back to a casino. Many members here have posted some of what they do or pay with their winnings and her post to me was no different, just that she was looking forward to doing this and it is turning out to be doing that instead.

So take it easy on those who are still out there and reporting back their experiences, some of us do appreciate it.

However one thing to keep in mind and many members ignore this, is a casino shouldn't be named without permission from the casino, this is in the forum rules. So state your experiences, the fact that it's a casino, accredited or rogue, is good enough to know.

I just wanted to add, those who are still playing are our commrades in the gamblers world, not the diehard dredges of society that need medical attention or GA meetings. They are us and once we were them and hope to be there again, isn't that what we are all waiting for anyways.