CasinoRoom source of income problems for self-employed

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As I am self-employed, CasinoRoom asked me for my latest tax return and bank statements as part of their source of wealth/income checks, which I duly sent them.

I also sent them a government letter confirming my self-employment status and business as a software developer, as well as PayPal statements showing customer payments.

Their latest reply to me has been: "We appreciate your cooperation. Unfortunately, the documents you provided are not sufficient to proof [sic] that you have a steady income. We appreciate your business, but we cannot reopen your account unless you can show a steady income as source of funds."

Of course I do not have a steady income as such (i.e. a consistent/regular/frequent income stream) because my income is made up of ad hoc software sales from various different customers.

Is anyone else experiencing such a problem with CasinoRoom and is there a workaround?

I am not waiting for any money from them but it would be disappointing if I could never play there again.
 

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I received an e-mail from them last week asking for SOW. I haven't got round to responding to them yet.

I am not self-employed, but I am a casual worker (albeit a very busy one who works close to regular full-time hours, as I work for two companies, not one).
Having read your post, I don't have much confidence that sending in my docs is going to enable me to continue to play there.
They will almost certainly see the word "casual" and go "nope - irregular income stream - freeze account until further notice".

Which makes me think it would probably be easier for me to follow tonic's advice....and ask them to close my account, albeit reluctantly.

If there is any crumb of comfort to take from this, it's that you aren't being held to ransom while you have a pending withdrawal.
 

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I received an e-mail from them last week asking for SOW. I haven't got round to responding to them yet.

I am not self-employed, but I am a casual worker (albeit a very busy one who works close to regular full-time hours, as I work for two companies, not one).
Having read your post, I don't have much confidence that sending in my docs is going to enable me to continue to play there.
They will almost certainly see the word "casual" and go "nope - irregular income stream - freeze account until further notice".

Which makes me think it would probably be easier for me to follow tonic's advice....and ask them to close my account, albeit reluctantly.

If there is any crumb of comfort to take from this, it's that you aren't being held to ransom while you have a pending withdrawal.

Indeed, if they are going to make it so difficult to play there then don't jump through their hoops better to cut them loose, if you think casinos are bad wait until the eventual planned electronic currency roll out eventually comes out, the cashless society has been planned
for a long long time for 2 reasons, facist control of all finances and taxation will be much tighter, contactless cards, and pay with your mobile are all just stepping stones to the cashless society. Casinos are saying no, then it will be computers making that decision.
So all forms of cryptocurrency will absolutely end up being under the commerical banking systems control, as they cannot and will not allow such a system be around that can circumvent their facist system.
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This is like EdSkullMurphy was never away :eek2:

It's been in the planning for a long long long time, David Icke was saying this was coming decades ago....and look at the world now, it's getting closer and closer every year, it's inevitable.
What this casino is doing right here is a taste of things to come in the near future. :(


Malaysia already getting the ball rolling on crypto regulation and of course the rest of the countries will all follow suit.

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It's been in the planning for a long long long time, David Icke was saying this was coming decades ago....and look at the world now, it's getting closer and closer every year, it's inevitable.
What this casino is doing right here is a taste of things to come in the near future. :(


Malaysia already getting the ball rolling on crypto regulation and of course the rest of the countries will all follow suit.

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Didn't David Icke once say the G7 leaders turned into lizards when behind closed doors?
 

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Didn't David Icke once say the G7 leaders turned into lizards when behind closed doors?

I was waiting for somone to reply with the lizards stuff, so what if he did, you seem like an intelligent person yet you resorted to ad hominem replies...
even if he did say that, it has nothing to do with the financial system and he has been proven to be correct on that front, he also talked about microchips under the skin of humans 30 years ago and everyone laughed and we are almost at that stage as well.

ad hominem
You attacked your opponent's character or personal traits in an attempt to undermine their argument.
Ad hominem attacks can take the form of overtly attacking somebody, or more subtly casting doubt on their character or personal attributes as a way to discredit their argument. The result of an ad hom attack can be to undermine someone's case without actually having to engage with it.

Example: After Sally presents an eloquent and compelling case for a more equitable taxation system, Sam asks the audience whether we should believe anything from a woman who isn't married, was once arrested, and smells a bit weird.
 

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I was waiting for somone to reply with the lizards stuff, so what if he did, you seem like an intelligent person yet you resorted to ad hominem replies...
even if he did say that, it has nothing to do with the financial system and he has been proven to be correct on that front, he also talked about microchips under the skin of humans 30 years ago and everyone laughed and we are almost at that stage as well.

ad hominem
You attacked your opponent's character or personal traits in an attempt to undermine their argument.
Ad hominem attacks can take the form of overtly attacking somebody, or more subtly casting doubt on their character or personal attributes as a way to discredit their argument. The result of an ad hom attack can be to undermine someone's case without actually having to engage with it.

Example: After Sally presents an eloquent and compelling case for a more equitable taxation system, Sam asks the audience whether we should believe anything from a woman who isn't married, was once arrested, and smells a bit weird.
Depends what she smells of and what she was arrested for. David Icke is quite entertaining though, that's even without the turquoise shell suit.
 

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There's nothing inherently wrong with technological advancement, talking about chipping, but obviously how it is applied and to whom, if at all.

Governments controlling our lives, tracking our movements and eradicating our freedoms are the sort of topics my partner flips out over, often at great length :eek:

Personally, they can chip my balls if it gets me 14,000x on Bonanza :eek2:
 

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There's nothing inherently wrong with technological advancement, talking about chipping, but obviously how it is applied and to whom, if at all.

Governments controlling our lives, tracking our movements and eradicating our freedoms are the sort of topics my partner flips out over, often at great length :eek:

Personally, they can chip my balls if it gets me 14,000x on Bonanza :eek2:

Remind me not to go anywhere near any chippy vans around YOUR uhm..."area" mate :eek2::eek:
 

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There's nothing inherently wrong with technological advancement, talking about chipping, but obviously how it is applied and to whom, if at all.

Governments controlling our lives, tracking our movements and eradicating our freedoms are the sort of topics my partner flips out over, often at great length :eek:

Personally, they can chip my balls if it gets me 14,000x on Bonanza :eek2:

So I quite like the idea of some snoop wasting his or her life away because I used my chip-and-PIN card for a Costa today, followed by a cheap pair of affiliate jeans from Primark before a quick visit to Superdrug for a pack of 3 Pink Ticklers and a 150ml can of Sure Cool Sport deodorant. After a quick 30 minutes wander without buying anything, I had a quick MacDonalds and got the bus home. I tricked them though by turning off my phone after 2 minutes on the bus, and buying a ticket short of where I wanted to disembark and walking the last 2 stops.

That's got the 'they' baffled and I'm pretty sure one or two of the 'they' are on overtime as I speak due to my clandestine and surreptitious behaviour. :lolup:
 

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Oh my how this thread has devolved and quickly at that. I think maybe the SOW departments at some casinos need more training with regards to self employed individuals. I was under the impression that SOW paperwork is done to ensure you aren't money laundering or other nefarious purposes. As long as your banks show money coming from legitimate sources as they do when an individual is self employed then it ought to be fine. I think it might just come down to bad training in some casinos and maybe misinterpreting the EU directive. In all fairness though these stupid EU directives are prime for misinterpretation due to their vagueness. So red tape rules I guess.
 

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Oh my how this thread has devolved and quickly at that. I think maybe the SOW departments at some casinos need more training with regards to self employed individuals. I was under the impression that SOW paperwork is done to ensure you aren't money laundering or other nefarious purposes. As long as your banks show money coming from legitimate sources as they do when an individual is self employed then it ought to be fine. I think it might just come down to bad training in some casinos and maybe misinterpreting the EU directive. In all fairness though these stupid EU directives are prime for misinterpretation due to their vagueness. So red tape rules I guess.

And unfortunately, in some cases, casinos are all too willing to (mis)interpret vague legislation, rules and terms with a degree of malicious intent.
Often at the expense of the player. We saw what happened with Deeplay a few months ago.
 

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Oh my how this thread has devolved and quickly at that. I think maybe the SOW departments at some casinos need more training with regards to self employed individuals. I was under the impression that SOW paperwork is done to ensure you aren't money laundering or other nefarious purposes. As long as your banks show money coming from legitimate sources as they do when an individual is self employed then it ought to be fine. I think it might just come down to bad training in some casinos and maybe misinterpreting the EU directive. In all fairness though these stupid EU directives are prime for misinterpretation due to their vagueness. So red tape rules I guess.
Have a referendum in Ireland and leave then....it's great fun, really!
 

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And unfortunately, in some cases, casinos are all too willing to (mis)interpret vague legislation, rules and terms with a degree of malicious intent.
Often at the expense of the player. We saw what happened with Deeplay a few months ago.
You will get no argument from me there. I can see malicious intent when a withdrawal is pending. Not sure what the issue was with Deeplay as I missed so if you could link that thread I would greatly appreciate it:)
 

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Have a referendum in Ireland and leave then....it's great fun, really!
Would feckling love to but the population here seems to be brainwashed into thinking the EU is a good thing. I used to as well but in the last couple of years I am thinking differently. It's even hard to get information on parties that are advocating for Ireland to leave the EU although I have come across 2 but not on regular legacy media. If you have ideas of Irexit here you are considered a far right 'isit of every kind there is. We will just have to wait and see what happens in the future. I personally don't think the EU will last another 20 years as people are starting to get pissed off in other countries.
 
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