Bloatgoat vs slots

Mr_Slot5

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The best way on how to play slots, I found for my self is to stop playing any slots (for a couple of weeks at least) after winning something big. I don't know how it is with others, but for me after the big win follow big loses. So, to avoid this happening I stop playing and then come back and try my luck again.
Also, I try to avoid playing at casinos where my new gaming session (on my favourite game) starts from the same point that I have left. Superstition? Maybe! :D But if possible, I prefer to start a fresh game from the scratch.
To be fair to bloat, I can relate to what he is saying. You seem to be saying similar too.

My luck seems to come as one streak over a few days then bam, after a massive hit the games play worse than ever. Complete dog shit. We're not even talking average gameplay either, we're talking dire.

Same pattern, rinse and repeat. Once you've eventually lost what you've won (and perhaps more) they loosen up again. This could be 1-2 months down the line.

So many people witness the same thing yet everyone who mentions it is somehow a conspiracy nutjob :confused:

Anyway, not that it really matters...it is what it is and we play for that entertainment and the chance of that whopper ;)
 

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I never used to buy anything when I won, which was a mistake because all you did when you won was, over time, sink it back in. Now I try and get something tangible; 5 day air b n b break, stuff for my photography etc.

There has been a general weariness with my slotting over the last 12 months and there will come a day where I just jack it in but one thing that’s good and keeps me playing is where you’ve done your monthly budgets, hit a decent amount and are now able to buy that thing a few months earlier than you’d planned or go on two trips, not one etc.
 

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I'm pretty sure most of people who play slots share opinion that after you win big, you tempt to lose. Can have something to do with fact that big wins are quite rarely happening and if you keep on playing, most common outcome is that you lose your winnings back, dunno does there have to be anything dodgy?

My uncle won once big in lottery and never ever after that one time, bit suspicious how he started not to win anything after getting millions once.
 

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My luck seems to come as one streak over a few days then bam, after a massive hit the games play worse than ever. Complete dog shit. We're not even talking average gameplay either, we're talking dire.

The same pattern, rinse and repeat. Once you've eventually lost what you've won (and perhaps more) they loosen up again. This could be 1-2 months down the line.

Pretty similar here too!

I remember, over the time of my gambling journey, there were countless of times when after those big wins all my fav games go dead and on next couple of days I pump all the winnings back plus everything that is available on my bank account too.

Of course not straight away, but after some time I realised that this is like some kind of regularity that follows me and happens all the time.

Looking at my life from the side I started to think about how to change it and what to do, and then I came to the conclusion that the best way to improve it is to stop gambling after there are a few good cashouts sitting in my bank, and ALWAYS BUY SOMETHING DECENT USING AT LEAST A PART OF THAT MONEY.

Still working fine! :) [knocking on the wood three times]
 

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PM @maxd (oft-times Bryan but he's busy of late) and I'm fairly sure they can meet your request :thumbsup:
He'll be back in a day or two full of joy after hitting a progressive or getting a monster win and it will all be smiles again. Just a severe bout of gambling pessimism, I know the feeling as my year has been one big, predictable conspiracy. I have been going on about it in my YT videos to the poor sods prepared to listen. :D
 

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Pretty similar here too!

I remember, over the time of my gambling journey, there were countless of times when after those big wins all my fav games go dead and on next couple of days I pump all the winnings back plus everything that is available on my bank account too.

Of course not straight away, but after some time I realised that this is like some kind of regularity that follows me and happens all the time.

Looking at my life from the side I started to think about how to change it and what to do, and then I came to the conclusion that the best way to improve it is to stop gambling after there are a few good cashouts sitting in my bank, and ALWAYS BUY SOMETHING DECENT USING AT LEAST A PART OF THAT MONEY.

Still working fine! :) [knocking on the wood three times]

If you don't have deposit limits on already and you have a big cashout just set one, even if it's just for a week, because it's usually in the days after the winnings have landed on your bankaccount or other wallet that you tend to deposit more.

Mistakes were made, deposit limits were set :p
 

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He'll be back in a day or two full of joy after hitting a progressive or getting a monster win and it will all be smiles again. Just a severe bout of gambling pessimism, I know the feeling as my year has been one big, predictable conspiracy. I have been going on about it in my YT videos to the poor sods prepared to listen. :D
no doubt
and another 300 pages and 20 threads expressing so :)
 

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If you don't have deposit limits on already and you have a big cashout just set one, even if it's just for a week, because it's usually in the days after the winnings have landed on your bankaccount or other wallet that you tend to deposit more.

Mistakes were made, deposit limits were set :p

That's golden advice too! Here in the UK, there is no option to send the money back to the player's account anymore. It definitely nice and I guess it saved quite a bit of money for some players.
 

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I hate it when casinos scam me by letting me win 5-10 times my initial deposit, then force me to play it all away again.
 

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So over the last week, including today, i think my total deposit since the last above *big* win was around 1500. Finally i managed to get it up to 5000 euro, on which from that point on, everything went into a complete pile of shit. I no longer believe in this randomness, i more believe from this point on that i'm paying for my own entertainment. A hefty price for what is supposed to be fun. Did anyone really really get ahead in their carreer considering being a professional gambler? Apart from the table games and poker games, i'm talking slots here.

Another note is that the RTP and difficulty on high bets is extremely 'difficult' and being mid-bets has a better favor. Lower bets wont get you near depending on which type of game you play because payout is always ridiculously by some sort of checkerboard. It wont gain you a huge win unless you play a progressive game like lil devil, dead or alive or whatever.

I think i'm done with this. Seriously. It will take a while for it to get over and the urge to play become alot less. But fuck slots. Fuck online casino's. If you genuine believe your "winning" it's a pyramid game where one's loss is the win of another. And the casino have their slots so tight up to this point that it makes no sense to even defend landbased vs online anymore. RTP's are dropping, and they are messing with volatility, bonus frequency, all that shit. I know because i WAS a frequent player of a dozen of games that simply dont play as they used to anymore.

I can smack myself in the head day in day out over previous year taking 65k. I should have left by then, because i KNEW i wont be pulling off another thing like that. My soul feels like ripped apart, challenging or competing on something that is just good as impossible. I'm wasting my time on playing games that are designed to lure you in more and more, and being surrounded in a pit of several shit in relation of casino tricks.

Providers dont set stuff up. Casino's license games. And by their means and standards they can select limited payout, bets, volatility and whatever the fuck more to make you glaze at 96% while in reality it's far worse. Trust me i've done alot of different approaches over the above course. And one thing i do know is that my winnings are pretty much based on my deposit behaviour. You peak at some point and you thumble down. How random is that, when going from 5k on an avg of 1, 2, 4, 5, 10, 15 and frigging 20 a spin in a complete losing streak on several different games. No sir, it's not random. It's the casino blocking my bets obviously.

I've had it with this shit. Please thrash my account. Anyone who can relate in the above please take my advice, get out. If it's a kick or entertainment you seek; there' s a zillion other ways then by playing on a casino. Their only interest is your money, and they will go within the legal lines to get it from you. Fucking robbers is what they are.

Landbased was so much better! Really! i know you dont believe me. But try a perhaps more frequent base or visit, and know the slot your playing! I bet for a 100 euro here that the fun including the potential you can get is far better then these online robbing places that are designed to lure you in. They are mouse-traps first class. And i hope the majority fucking dies off the internet. Simple as that.

I'm out.
I can also relate to your current misery.

Had quite an awesome run at most casino's between September last year and January this year where at so many casino's and so many providers getting big wins on $10 and $20 bets felt so easy and sure there there were some sessions where you would get carried away and lose 3 - 5k between a few casinos but then another miracle would happen and turn it back into another positive month. Had countless 5k withdrawals, a bunch of 10k ones and even a few of 15 and 20k.

Then February was a disaster, put about 20k back in and cant remember if I got a cash out from anywhere and if I did it would have been lucky to be 1 - 2k. March and April more or less followed the same pattern of losing heavily. May was a bit more kind and even gave me a session with a peak balance of 27k but as gamblers do due to the heavy losses of the previous few months got carried away and only ended up withdrawing a bit under 10k. June also provided me with a similar win where I managed to get a $350 deposit at a peak of 18k but foolishly also didn't take it putting it all back in chasing a dream hit to get me back on top.

Since not taking that 18k peak in June every single casino has been a complete misery, impossible to get balance over 5k (most of the time impossible to even get it to 1 or 2 anymore) like its a hard cap on my player profile somewhere and just losing session after losing session. Have easily put my good win streak of late last year back in plus more and cold is not the word to the point where I made my last deposit over the weekend and have officially told myself not another single deposit anywhere until at least Jan 1st. I am fairly confident that due to the big deposits/bet's I do taking a few months off will all of the sudden magically make games start paying again in order to get me depositing all the time again.

I have just seen too many patterns and have a fairly high confidence that there is some sort of API between the casino account management interface and the providers that has some sort of influence into the RNG seed you get sent into when entering a game. If things were truly random it would be exactly that and not insane win spree followed by insane lose spree to put it all back in plus more.

The only time I can get a decent lengthy session is when i'm betting much lower than I usually do (10c - $1 bets) then all of the sudden all games seem to spring to life again and feel like they are playing normal again but $5 - $20 bets and can say RIP to balance in under 10 min on 99% of deposits.

Perhaps it is just the providers that have shifted the RTP more heavily in favor to the low rollers while only allowing streamers to get any decent RTP in the higher bet range.
 

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I dunno why I keep replying to these threads...

I am fairly confident that due to the big deposits/bet's I do taking a few months off will all of the sudden magically make games start paying again in order to get me depositing all the time again.

I am fairly certain of this also, but not because the shadow masters behind the scenes decided that they'll stop messing with your specific gameplay after some rudimentary time period but rather by that stage you will have stopped expecting to win constantly and will have stopped trying to chase losses.
 

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It's bin exactly, one week without a deposit or slots. I'll tell you. I FEEL SO MUCH BETTER. God i have time on my hands now again. And more important, i'm not burning on avg 1500 a week onto casino's!

I told my GF about my story, not too complicated tho, but she backs me, and we're moving forward from this shit pile of online gambling. In the last weekend, i made more then 2500 euro for just being productive.

I'm motivated as F to do other and better things with my money from this point on. I've let go all the theory's in my mind; people can shove 'm up their rear really with their random taking of your money yes.

I'm not really busy with this anymore, and i'm glad either that i can put my mind on different things now without being chained to getting losses back.

I have just seen too many patterns and have a fairly high confidence that there is some sort of API between the casino account management interface and the providers that has some sort of influence into the RNG seed you get sent into when entering a game. If things were truly random it would be exactly that and not insane win spree followed by insane lose spree to put it all back in plus more.

My best peace of advise for you is: seek something different. Play less slots or even better consider leaving online slots for what it is. It's designed to lure you in, tilt you, make you deposit more, cushioning you that losing is the new winning, because well maybe upon your next deposit you'll hit it big etc.

I've bin there too many times really; on 8 out of 10 times when the first deposit did'nt do jack shit, it was always the second deposit that gave me wins, but, no higher then 50 euro on the total of my 2 deposits. From that point on it was 8 out of 10 times a downward spiral. There's only a few moments that you can surpass that and it's actually quite non-random. It just depends on your deposit behaviour if you've won a ticket or not.

Taking bonus money? I wrote it here quite a few times, but as long as your within the wagering requiement of the bonus your having, games seem to favor you all over the place. Once your out of that wagering thing, shit thumbles down. Your paying to see slots alive as it's being presented these days as entertainment, the edge of real gambling is taken out of it.

I got a really well future ahead of me! And it would be stupid to waste my time on gambling with these intense sessions i used to had over the last few months. Dont be stupid! Simply move on if you cant get your kick out of it anymore. All you see is pretty much designed for you to lose (faster).

Btw, i kept word! Closed accounts; it's a depressive feeling knowing what i could have win in the following weeks, but they can stick it up their asses! The only true winner is me and being succesfull in what i do is a testimonial that i dont need slots to make money and live a happy life!
 

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When gambling is coming obvious problem, quitting is only good choice :thumbsup: If you really think about money "you could have win in the following weeks" it really sounds it's better to not to play, happy for your decision and no productivity what took place from slotting.

Slots are making money but not for players, that's hopefully something what all over 18 years old understand, if you wanna make money, stay fcking far away from slots, if you wanna spend your money for nothing, play them.
 

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I don’t know what to say or think. Human brain is such a mess. If such theories were true, it would be exactly like they weren’t. If the conspiracy was ten times worst than what everyone imagined, it would change absolutely nothing. Game providers could litteraly welcome you in their most popular slot when you open up their game with direct insults towards the player, his values, his family and ancestors and the average daily wagering amounts from this specific game would actualy stay the same or increase. We are talking about casinos that are very comfortable doing things the average buisness owners would never think of and this is for the well rated fews. How incredible is it really? To treat customers like that and increasing the level of bs every year. Year after year after year. Bloatgoat, my friend, you should obviously never gamble one cent ever again. The level of absurdity of your insane theories is crazy. But the fact that you keep going like that to prove yourself something impossible, come on. Slots are not random. Its predetermined results given to players randomly. You play, you lose. How unfortunate is it that even when you do the same thing 80 000 times and you see a 52% result, you have to convince yourself that it’s still possible that after 1 000 000 000 other times, things will return to normal and the comforting 96% will prove them right. Would it be possible that some very mean persons would back that bs and tell us that the rtp in help files is always true but it isn’t? People need food to live. And some of them need you to believe your theory is false and to keep trying to prove you wrong. Yeah you. Even you play slots on your % cut of the other gamblers.

Sorry. But thats the worst fkn thread I have ever read here in many years. How dumb are we really.
 

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Good to see some truth in one of these threads finally.

Maybe world would be better place with only old one liner slots with very limited winning combinations etc... Now with these millions of features and functions, people start to make bit too complicated theories around them.

It's still pretty same logic than it's always been, you win or lose, your chance for win is smaller than for losing. Just loads of eye candy and different features to make it more tempting which understandably can make players to go deep in their thinking of behaviors, patterns and what so ever in slots.

End of the day, it's still same PRNG what gives you result for your gameround, with these high volatilities 0 and "winnings" under bet size are more common than past but overall these games keep that 10-4% from wagered money. No more magic needed there.
 
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I dunno why I keep replying to these threads...
Wow I missed that one. Jesus...


I am fairly certain of this also, but not because the shadow masters behind the scenes decided that they'll stop messing with your specific gameplay after some rudimentary time period but rather by that stage you will have stopped expecting to win constantly and will have stopped trying to chase losses.
 

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@hhhelllo I never played with such paranoid, looking behind my screen theory if there was a hidden rheel going on. You got me wrong there. I played to win. But i coud'nt help it having the feeling for a long time that the randomness is'nt as we are thought to believe. I dont have to repeat myself again to know what was going on kind of way; it's just that i dont bother to spend time on this subject anymore.

I have'nt played for 20 days now and i dont have the urge no more. I was fighting a uphill battle i coud'nt win (kind of) and i knew that my time, efforts and money was spend better elsewhere. And i'm doing it with alot of succes as we speak. With the rate i was going before i stopped playing, i kind of saved myself at least 4500 euro, less tress and far more energy for other things.

Now thats what quitting gambling can do to a human being. And i really advise anyone else being at that point todo the same. The RTP is'nt going to miraculously change. My casino in particular capped higher wins which was obvious when i attempted up to 3 times. I no longer have to chase that dragon and i'm very happy with it.

So have your slots, watch your favorite (gay) streamers on which intention is only to lure you in, they wont be getting any of my hard earned money anymore. I never had to sign myself up to gamstop or any of that, because i know i'm a strong human being and i can resist this with the snap of my finger just like that. I hope with my message someone else might pick it up along and consider making a change for himself.

I'm getting the same high's when playing a regular game. I'm getting the same satisfaction when exercising a hobby, i'm getting the same thrills when i'm kickboxing against a well trained opponent, that i btw recently start doing again. So salut and stick gambling up your ass. ! :)
 
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I'm honestly glad you've stopped gambling, and I do hope it sticks.
But you sound absolutely manic and delusional.
Good luck.
 
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