Bloatgoat vs slots

Bloatgoat

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Thank you for the compliment. Looking at your post history and your gambling issues and / or meltdown i'm sure your doing fine too. Your such a strong human being on these forums. I might as well take advice from you from now on in order to get myself together without having any downfalls.

:lolup:

At least i can say ive bin there, tasted it, and moving on in a much more faster way from this deep shit that's all designed to grab you from your money. Sucker.
 

neon claws

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Not sure how you found a compliment in there, just sympathy- because as you've so kindly pointed out i do indeed have some idea what you're going through, I just don't have time for the mental gymnastics trying to rationalise it that you do.
 

dealer wins

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Slot variance will be a mystery to the end of time lol At times I have sessions playing at 30p or 50p stakes that rinse £100 without any win over 10x the bet. Which I hate as I don't mind losing the £100 but would like a couple of hours of fun out of it.

Occasionally I turn the £100 into £200, rarer still £500 when slot after slot throw constant features your way all good paying ones.

When I do basic maths on my 3 hour session, at 96% RTPs I should expect to lose about £15 an hour playing 40p spins assuming 15 spins a minute (Obv allowing for features which can take a few minutes)

To be fair over the last 4 months, when I have kept details logs on session length and profit an loss, I am bang on that figure, scarily so. I am £2080 down, after 142 hours of slotting, where I should be £2130 down on my basic calculation.

Even faced with that info, I still feel slots are not random sometimes, I need help.
 

neon claws

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When I do basic maths on my 3 hour session, at 96% RTPs I should expect to lose about £15 an hour playing 40p spins assuming 15 spins a minute (Obv allowing for features which can take a few minutes)

Your calculations only work if the slot was paying you 96% on every single spin which would be incredibly boring and no-one would ever play.

You are going to usually have much shorter sessions because of the variance, but will occasionally get a much longer session.
 

Bloatgoat

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What if, over time, no matter your strategy, all your wins are nothing more then 96% of what you depositted in the first place, and that the casino can throw you in a win once in a while, that would make you ahead (for that time) but for them a simple investment to get you playing longer, thus maximizing their revenue?

When i watched the bandit, ayezee, rocknrollar, they all had these simularities where their withdrawls vs deposits where as almost equal minus or plus a little bit overall. It makes me think that slotting is pretty much a 'dead end' in relation of playing to getting ahead and the only time you can get ahead is actually stop while your ahead.

Logically, above system would still be legal as the braking appearing (obviously) on certain live games such as crazy time, lightning roulette or landbased such as automatic (machine based) roulette. As long as you have an avg of 96% or whatever the F as a return to player basis, it's legal.

As i said, and @trancemonkey did'nt believe it when i wrote this here before, but more and more casino's are moving from provider based return to players to return to player based on the casino deposits. Come again? Basicly deposits ONTO the casino being randomly distributed with a percentage of 96%. The advantage? The casino could technically not lose more then what's being put in.

It's why you see some of these casino's with game offerings other then what the normal established brands have. They are obviously small players but there is a growing number of online casino's out there that uses a system like that. There are more country's then the UK that have a different approach to gambling, laws and playing rules. So a system like this is'nt unreal or does'nt belong to rogue casino's alone.

My understanding from when i was playing slots for the last months, when the first deposit failed in relation of winning something in the first place, the second was guaranteed to at least set me straight both my deposits plus just a little bit extra. And quite a few times in a row i would guaranteed lose that and there where just a few occasions where i would actually get ahead of my first 2 deposits.

If i constantly encounter playing behaviour like that, i'm being touted here as "delusional" or "manic" lol. When i previous year won 65k, or actually 70k, i kept repeating one thing over and over again till i reached to that point. I saw that after i loss 7 gambles in a row of 500 euro buy the 8th time would grand me the 24 spins and set me ahead of the 7 losses. If you dont believe me, i really dont care, but i showed close related ones this 'pattern' which in my understanding is a simple exploit that worked back then.

Ya'll dont believe it, or perhaps a few, but you can bet that the casino even tho they paid me out, went in detail into my playing records, and make sure that that was impossible to reproduce to this very day. I mean before i closed my account(s), i tried up to 4 times with a budget of more then 5k on each session, to reproduce the above. Impossible. I had better luck on 250 up to 400 euro a buy then going max bet craziness as i experienced that there was a obvious "limiter" on my gameplay.

The answer from the casino a long time ago was "to protect their players" > well to me it was just financial liability because they did run games that offer up to 2k a hand on for example, automatic blackjack, roulette or whatsoever. The profit on those games was obviously in their favor because it where in house games and not licensed games.

I'm not stupid man. And i'm pretty much on spot for what i see or saw in this case, and how i attempted to break it. I failed. I lost money for it, but i came out with a very important lesson. To move the fuck on! Because there is no other end in this gambling online then lose faster then you can take a shit these days. I'm telling you life is much more valuable then playing slots, unless your a degenerate who did'nt understand much about life and it's goals either.
 

trancemonkey

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As i said, and @trancemonkey did'nt believe it when i wrote this here before, but more and more casino's are moving from provider based return to players to return to player based on the casino deposits. Come again? Basicly deposits ONTO the casino being randomly distributed with a percentage of 96%. The advantage? The casino could technically not lose more then what's being put in.

This statement - prove it. You can't. Why? Because it is doesnt happen on any reputable casino. Also, as every game has a slightly different RTP, how the hell would you account for this. Seriously, you constantly ridiculous theories make no sense. You just say the same boring things over and over...

Please post your proof of this claim here, or politely stop posting bullshit claims
 

Bloatgoat

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It's why you see some of these casino's with game offerings other then what the normal established brands have. They are obviously small players but there is a growing number of online casino's out there that uses a system like that. There are more country's then the UK that have a different approach to gambling, laws and playing rules. So a system like this is'nt unreal or does'nt belong to rogue casino's alone.

Since your more into that industry that i am i suggest putting the question out to a few of your contacts. I'm sure someone can give you a heads up on that subject.
 

Halvor

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Since he's more into the industry than you are, you want him to reach out to his contacts to confirm a theory of your that only exist in your head?

How about this as an alternative, try to get some actual insight on how slots work, the regulations companies operate within and the actual fact that rtp is provider built, not casino.

Sure seems to beat your current strategy of coming up with more and more whacked theories with no root in reality.
 

trancemonkey

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Since your more into that industry that i am i suggest putting the question out to a few of your contacts. I'm sure someone can give you a heads up on that subject.
That's the most hilarious answer you could if give.

Let me rephrase your answer so it says what it really means:

"Hi my name is Bloatgoat. I have zero proof that anything is rigged as I claim, but I don't need to provide any. It is up to you, trancemonkey, to prove it is not rigged. I can make any baseless claim I want and yet I have no burden of proof whatsoever."
 

Bloatgoat

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Yep, and i suggested before to contact the casino (anyone, feel free) with it's details on this forum that i posted before. I'm not going to dive in this matter or subject again, really apart from proving my e-peen here there's nothing to show in that matter. I know that casino's do exist that operate like that. You can take one quote of me completely out of context as i wrote legal smaller casino's, not major brands in particular. It's not uncommon.

But hey have it, i'm glad i'm not part of this sobbing, sad little community anymore really and i'm glad i did the right thing! :)
 

trancemonkey

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Yep, and i suggested before to contact the casino (anyone, feel free) with it's details on this forum that i posted before. I'm not going to dive in this matter or subject again, really apart from proving my e-peen here there's nothing to show in that matter. I know that casino's do exist that operate like that. You can take one quote of me completely out of context as i wrote legal smaller casino's, not major brands in particular. It's not uncommon.

But hey have it, i'm glad i'm not part of this sobbing, sad little community anymore really and i'm glad i did the right thing! :)

Awww.. post proof... you have the burden of proof. Not us.

However, PM me the details of the the casino you say cheats and I will contact them and post the entire thread on here. It you are right then at least people will know where not to play :)
 

irish-ranger

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Yep, and i suggested before to contact the casino (anyone, feel free) with it's details on this forum that i posted before. I'm not going to dive in this matter or subject again, really apart from proving my e-peen here there's nothing to show in that matter. I know that casino's do exist that operate like that. You can take one quote of me completely out of context as i wrote legal smaller casino's, not major brands in particular. It's not uncommon.

But hey have it, i'm glad i'm not part of this sobbing, sad little community anymore really and i'm glad i did the right thing! :)
Typically just insult the rest of us before the flounce don't hold back on doing the right thing...
 

pinnit2014

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Wouldn’t worry, he will be back gambling soon enough, showing us a 65k (he’s not mentioned that much) win and how he beat the casino.

poor guy seems to be devolving with each post.

Bye bye sweetheart.
 

Bloatgoat

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If i can do it twenty days, i can do it a lifetime my friend. At least i'd be the last one posting ever how i had a hangover or started to play slots again.
 

Halvor

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But hey have it, i'm glad i'm not part of this sobbing, sad little community anymore really and i'm glad i did the right thing! :)
And yet here you are, posting on this sobbing sad little community.

Do you really harbour such a massive inferiority complex that you constantly need to result to insults?
 

trancemonkey

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If i can do it twenty days, i can do it a lifetime my friend. At least i'd be the last one posting ever how i had a hangover or started to play slots again.

Still no contact details from you forthe illegal casino.... I'll get the popcorn while I wait. Email address please :)
 

cncas2123

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@Bloatgoat Weren't you looking at opening a casino a while back? I thought you had posted that you were looking for contacts to help you get set up with suppliers etc?
At least if you do that you can go as rogue as you want and you will be able to prove the whole industry is rigged...
 

maxd

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Some time ago Bloatgoat has asked us to "delete" his account. I'd offered him a number of options varying from "Quit Gambling" to completely scrubbing his identity but he didn't respond. Tonight he's asked to be "removed" so I've opted for the "Disabled Account" route. He can still PM me if he prefers one of the other options.
 

neon claws

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Some time ago Bloatgoat has asked us to "delete" his account. I'd offered him a number of options varying from "Quit Gambling" to completely scrubbing his identity but he didn't respond. Tonight he's asked to be "removed" so I've opted for the "Disabled Account" route. He can still PM me if he prefers one of the other options.

And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest
 
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