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    We got a bit annoyed with slot tournaments, contest etc with the CW gang about 2 yrs ago. To be specific there was an employee that worked there a couple years ago, who was not very friendly towards my moderators for contest etc.
    I just want to say that I am saying the brands were bad or suffering. Jonathan ,Martyn,Carolina are amazing people and really made the ship run so well. The one bad apple was removed a few yrs back but now that I know the new
    owners are taking over, I have decided not to work with them on the level I once did..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tirilej View Post
    I searched a bit and the only thing I could find was this. Not Inc but NV, and that was the only with BeSoftware and Curacao.
    The link didn't work of course.

    Edit: I have the real link now. I asked support.
    http://www.gaming-curacao.com/validation/besoftware-nv/


    But if the company exist is maybe another question, but don't they check even that?
    Well, I think you've hit the nail on the head. This Besoftware company needs to be listed in the Curacao chamber of commerce - it's not. And we are all aware how lax the licensing can be on this island. If it is not listed there, why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by KasinoKing View Post
    To be honest - I don't care about them very much any more...
    Well, you should care about them if you are looking at this from an affiliate's perspective. If you have sent players there, you want to make sure that those players are treated well - fairly and properly. If there is a sign of them doing something dodgy, then your player base should be made aware of this.

    Something dodgy is going on, and from what I have experienced in this business, the truth will come out in the end. The Internet does not lie, and it is easy to start connecting the dots when enough dots start appearing in front of you.

    I should add that business ethics covers every aspect of doing business - and is paramount with Internet businesses since so much is built on trust. It's the freaking Internet.

    Whether it's paying your bills on time, adhering to your terms and conditions, or treating players and your marketing partners properly - bad practice in one realm will poison the others.

    If a company is willing to screw over it's players, they will do the same to their marketing partners as well as to the pizza delivery guy.

    And visa versa. If a company is willing to f&*% it's business partners, they will eventually shaft the players. Speaking from nearly 19 years worth of experience in this business, I think I know what I'm talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casinomeister View Post
    Well, I think you've hit the nail on the head. This Besoftware company needs to be listed in the Curacao chamber of commerce - it's not. And we are all aware how lax the licensing can be on this island. If it is not listed there, why not?



    Well, you should care about them if you are looking at this from an affiliate's perspective. If you have sent players there, you want to make sure that those players are treated well - fairly and properly. If there is a sign of them doing something dodgy, then your player base should be made aware of this.

    Something dodgy is going on, and from what I have experienced in this business, the truth will come out in the end. The Internet does not lie, and it is easy to start connecting the dots when enough dots start appearing in front of you.
    Us players are really easy to fool that's for sure. I did find it odd that there was no information about the company on the internet though, at least nothing I could find.
    They were really fast in giving me the link though so maybe the staff isn't aware or suspicions either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KasinoKing View Post
    ... The guys working there I interacted with were (are) all wonderful, friendly nice people: Karolina, Martin, Steven, Jonathan - all top-notch
    You might want to update your Rolodex, people move on and that certainly applies here.
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    From a players perspective, Karolina made that casino great.

    Now that there are new owners which are obviously misinforming her or she is ignoring it because she cherishes her job, who knows.

    One thing can be certain, their reputation has had a hit against it with all the misleading crap and ignorance from the owners

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    Quote Originally Posted by lockinlove View Post
    From a players perspective, Karolina made that casino great.
    Agreed, but a casino is a team of which the Manager is absolutely an important part. What made CWC great from an industry point of view was that Jonathan assembled a great team, strongly emphasized the importance of respecting the player, and made sure that ethos permeated the entire organization. Good casinos don't happen by accident and CWC was great. I think it's important to give credit to all those that made it so, Karolina included.
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    Something is a bit sniffy here if you ask me: Tirilej gave us a url to an apparent license page (which I also found) which is this:
    http://www.gaming-curacao.com/validation/besoftware-nv/

    This doesn't look right to me as I've often checked Cup-o-cocoa's official site and it always uses the url/domain
    https://www.curacao-egaming.com/# as do sub-domains. notice the 'e' !!!

    Are you lot sure this isn't a 'lookalike' url - are you 100% sure that Cup-o-cocoa CWG certificate is Kosher?

    Would explain why Bryan can't find this lot in the Cup-o-cocoa 'Chamber Of Commerce'

    P.S. Looking further this site: http://www.gaming-curacao.com/ I think is nothing to do with licensing, more a license holder offering hosting and skins to casinos and other services, similar to a master license holder in the UK giving White Label operations out to other operators. I think this a bit different to a casino having their own license from curacao-egaming.com

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    I stopped playing there a while ago...I am playing at casinos that withdraw to bitcoin also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxd View Post
    You might want to update your Rolodex, people move on and that certainly applies here.
    I am fully aware that 2 of the people I mentioned are no longer with the company - that's why I said "were (are)".

    I was NOT aware of what a Rolodex was though - I had to Google that!

    KK

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    I would say that the member's here may have eased off of CWG. When the issue of the card pay system vanishing and they seem'ed content to string player's along. It seemed fishy that far back as far as I'am concerned.

    The thread that I started about that issue was very active with US player's concern's. And no one except Karolina bothered to even try to put player's at ease. It show's that US player's are perhaps getting sick and tired of being the whipping post for the online casino group's to beat on.

    Sooner or later this will become a issue with the power's that be and it may come down to a loss of any accredited casino's that US player's have left and that is not many nowaday's.

    I'm sure that I'am not the only one who has been around long enough to remember the times when the casino's just seem to go bad all at once.I played at many many casino's back in the day that I can no longer play at because they dropped the US player's like a pile of hot rock's.

    I will play as long as it seem's possible to win and get rewarded for my play by being paid in a timely manner. I'am one of those who does not just play for the entertainment value bot to win and I'am proud of that.

    I would very much like to see any statistic's on the percentage of US player's as a whole in the industry? We may be stuck with certain casino's but if we play enough we have the voice to make people listen. Peace Out! Out Of The Mist! shewoff
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