Wtf happened to Dead or Alive

deadoralive23

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Just played for a few hours after i promised i wouldn't go near this tripe.

Its definitely not the same game i used to play.
Feature is pure filth, 1st reel wild never dropped in over 12 features, unbelievable considering how easy it used to be to hit the first reel wild.

Btw i'm playing on Betbright casino, could this be the reason? lol
 

suchfun

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Mar 9, 2011
Location
canada
Just played for a few hours after i promised i wouldn't go near this tripe.

Its definitely not the same game i used to play.
Feature is pure filth, 1st reel wild never dropped in over 12 features, unbelievable considering how easy it used to be to hit the first reel wild.

Btw i'm playing on Betbright casino, could this be the reason? lol

Don't worry its all random and against the law to mess with the slots,what you have to relize is they have slot cops watching every game 24 hours a day 365 days a year,we have nothing to worry about.
You just have to take their word for it,why would these good people Lie?
 

dave1888

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Location
Bonnie Scotland!
Dead or Alive "old" ate you alive rarely did 5 premiums in base but it gave you it all back if it played horrendously not necessarily wild line but at least a nice 350-450x, bonus once took me 903 spins to get.

Dead or Alive "new html5" base hits are frequent, 5 premiums sometimes come in 3, 4 or 5 times in a session of even just an hour(this is base game I'm referring to as well), Bonuses seem more frequent and they suffer greatly as a result. I don't think RTP has changed I think they've put much more hits in the base so now anything even 3-400x in the bonus is near enough impossible!

After reading all these comments I'm gonna avoid it for a while unless playing old DOA at Casino Heroes or Boyle :thumbsup:

Remember when it used to be solid to even get 5 hats or 5 holsters? DOA has been changed.
 

Spikie

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I hit over 4000x in the bonus on 90p stake at Casumo just over a year ago, probably only a few months after it appeared there.

Am sure they have only ever offered the html5 version.
Also was only my first couple of weeks ever playing doa.

So in my limited experience it is good.
 

Jono777

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Location
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Just played for a few hours after i promised i wouldn't go near this tripe.

Its definitely not the same game i used to play.
Feature is pure filth, 1st reel wild never dropped in over 12 features, unbelievable considering how easy it used to be to hit the first reel wild.

Btw i'm playing on Betbright casino, could this be the reason? lol

Did it?? :p :confused: lol
 

dave1888

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I hit over 4000x in the bonus on 90p stake at Casumo just over a year ago, probably only a few months after it appeared there.

Am sure they have only ever offered the html5 version.
Also was only my first couple of weeks ever playing doa.

So in my limited experience it is good.

But one 4000x hit isn't backing anything up...I'v had huge wins on the new one too but my God they are rare.

Look back at the frequency of doa wild lines in the show me the money thread and winners screenshots thread between 2013 and 2015-16 compared to now...There was a guy who got banned from here called Rolastan he had a wild line constantly. It's just not as good in the bonus now.
 

Gonzo

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Is somone following the streamer from finland Jartutslot84. I saw he got a wild line on a 13.5euros bet. He hot that on the 5th spin omg this guys luck is out from space. Im not jelaus or sonething like that. It fun when i se somone wining so much. But hooooooow the F can he be so lucky haha
 

dave1888

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Is somone following the streamer from finland Jartutslot84. I saw he got a wild line on a 13.5euros bet. He hot that on the 5th spin omg this guys luck is out from space. Im not jelaus or sonething like that. It fun when i se somone wining so much. But hooooooow the F can he be so lucky haha

People reckon he uses fake money...his bet sizes are way bigger than other streamers and his win reactions aren't convincing me.
 

Gonzo

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People reckon he uses fake money...his bet sizes are way bigger than other streamers and his win reactions aren't convincing me.
Actully, i have hard to belive that somone has that time to play with fakemoney haha. I cant play with funmoney more than 5min. But i understand people ho tbink henis fake. I mean how how can he be so lucky. Ut dosent matter wich provider he plays he get this sick megawin 300c bet. Then me the fucking idiot plays like a freaking idiots and gets my 20x bet on my bonuses haha
 

dave1888

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Actully, i have hard to belive that somone has that time to play with fakemoney haha. I cant play with funmoney more than 5min. But i understand people ho tbink henis fake. I mean how how can he be so lucky. Ut dosent matter wich provider he plays he get this sick megawin 300c bet. Then me the fucking idiot plays like a freaking idiots and gets my 20x bet on my bonuses haha

Some people are that immoral they will do anything to make money man. Plus it isn't like hes spinning it by himself he's got people in chat to speak to. Obviously in play money for us is dull as dishwater. Saying that though I do it to try new games out before playing for real :)
 

trancemonkey

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Ok just the profile change then which is allowed :)

So you seriously think we go through the time and expense to create multiple sets of maths for the same RTP instead of just one good set of maths?

You have no idea of the process of creating a game and yet you just make statements like that.

Now yes lots of companies exist that probably don't spend anywhere near the time others do to make maths - but maths are the most important part of a game. We spend a long time doing maths... and that's just for one RTP (or profile as you call it).

Why on earth do you think we would spend ages coming up with another profile for the same RTP? I spend weeks and weeks tuning a game to make it fun, exciting and fair. That is the skill of a good producer/mathematician. And to then see keyboard warriors with no experience at all just making out that it's super easy, cheap and can be done quickly just to rig things against the players...

Well it pisses me off to be honest....
 

interlog

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People reckon he uses fake money...his bet sizes are way bigger than other streamers and his win reactions aren't convincing me.

I have it from reliable sources he uses his own money.

He dominates the Finnish affiliate market and earns a good wedge of commission that pays for his slot sessions.

He is extremely lucky on the slots though!
 

asghan

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Poland
A lot of casinos used to have it under there excluded slots list for wagering on. Chance hill
.William hill. And a few other's. Once the game got converted to html all of a sudden it was removed from the ban list and was made fully playable to wager on at casinos it was once forbidden to play on with bonus funds. Does make you wonder why?

It's still excluded at Chance Hill. And there is still a lot lot more casinos that left DoA excluded.

Had it been more common trend that would have served as cirmustanstial evidence.

Of course few years back when I heard they will be converting all the games, paranoid part of my mind (I guess every gambler has one) was whispering 'they will tamper with DoA maths' but I'm really not convinced that they did. There are just opinions and gut feelings and lack of evidence.

Spin samples presented here are too small. I have my own stats for old DoA but unfortunately I gave up on DoA some time ago so I'm lacking stats for new version.
 

brianmon

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It's still excluded at Chance Hill. And there is still a lot lot more casinos that left DoA excluded.

Had it been more common trend that would have served as cirmustanstial evidence.

Of course few years back when I heard they will be converting all the games, paranoid part of my mind (I guess every gambler has one) was whispering 'they will tamper with DoA maths' but I'm really not convinced that they did. There are just opinions and gut feelings and lack of evidence.

Spin samples presented here are too small. I have my own stats for old DoA but unfortunately I gave up on DoA some time ago so I'm lacking stats for new version.

Maybe if you'd played more of the 'new' version, you'd understand what people are talking about
 

kou187

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It's still excluded at Chance Hill. And there is still a lot lot more casinos that left DoA excluded.

Had it been more common trend that would have served as cirmustanstial evidence.

Of course few years back when I heard they will be converting all the games, paranoid part of my mind (I guess every gambler has one) was whispering 'they will tamper with DoA maths' but I'm really not convinced that they did. There are just opinions and gut feelings and lack of evidence.

Spin samples presented here are too small. I have my own stats for old DoA but unfortunately I gave up on DoA some time ago so I'm lacking stats for new version.

Maybe it is excluded again now from Chance Hill. However it was removed at one point same at casino calzone. And now both have it on the banned list for wagering again. Does make you think why? :what:
 

SpinUk

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It's still excluded at Chance Hill. And there is still a lot lot more casinos that left DoA excluded.

Had it been more common trend that would have served as cirmustanstial evidence.

Of course few years back when I heard they will be converting all the games, paranoid part of my mind (I guess every gambler has one) was whispering 'they will tamper with DoA maths' but I'm really not convinced that they did. There are just opinions and gut feelings and lack of evidence.

Spin samples presented here are too small. I have my own stats for old DoA but unfortunately I gave up on DoA some time ago so I'm lacking stats for new version.

Almost a 300% deviation over 750k spins not enough? :thumbsup:
 

aceking123

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Hmm it wouldn't even take a 100k in spins to know a game & what it plays like . I'm bored myself of hearing you have to play 1million spins to get a average for a slot. Those people which have played the game over years know what they're talking about .No need for foil hats. But again casinos shall always hide behind the numbers.
 

asghan

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Almost a 300% deviation over 750k spins not enough? :thumbsup:

Blathaon sample is too small and he was extremly lucky there.

Look at the stats posted by kkmd on page five and six after 1,5m and 2,2m spins and Dunover's after 500k spins.

They are nowhere near as good as Blathaon's but granted still better than those from slot tracker.
 

asghan

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Maybe if you'd played more of the 'new' version, you'd understand what people are talking about

Still I made several thousand spins. Maybe I return to playing DoA someday and I'll have my own stats to compare.
 

asghan

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Maybe it is excluded again now from Chance Hill. However it was removed at one point same at casino calzone. And now both have it on the banned list for wagering again. Does make you think why? :what:


To be honest, not really. Maybe they were testing the waters.
 

suchfun

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Location
canada
So you seriously think we go through the time and expense to create multiple sets of maths for the same RTP instead of just one good set of maths?

You have no idea of the process of creating a game and yet you just make statements like that.

Now yes lots of companies exist that probably don't spend anywhere near the time others do to make maths - but maths are the most important part of a game. We spend a long time doing maths... and that's just for one RTP (or profile as you call it).

Why on earth do you think we would spend ages coming up with another profile for the same RTP? I spend weeks and weeks tuning a game to make it fun, exciting and fair. That is the skill of a good producer/mathematician. And to then see keyboard warriors with no experience at all just making out that it's super easy, cheap and can be done quickly just to rig things against the players...

Well it pisses me off to be honest....

these keyboard warriors have spun millions upon millions of spins on games,you know what pisses me off? You and your Gang of affiliats being rude every time some one does not agree with you bullies
 

Gonzo

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Sweden
these keyboard warriors have spun millions upon millions of spins on games,you know what pisses me off? You and your Gang of affiliats being rude every time some one does not agree with you bullies
i agrre. Sometine he says he used to be a player an was thinking like we do. But now he i in te other side but when we do not agree with him... he gets upset hahahah
 
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