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[dionysus]

i agree with snorky slots have changed,all this about BTG only offer one maths model of RTP i just dont beleive it,cost of living and everything has gone up and casinos no exception have tightened there belts

I....dont understand your post
BTG only offers one model

 

[dionysus]

Frankly, the guru here is @dunover who has his finger on the pulse of RTP

 

[gonzo fonso]

I....dont understand your post
BTG only offers one model

they can tell you anything at the end of the day,plus there are many different versions of bonanza,all slot providers have lower RTP versions why would BTG be any different ?

 

[gonzo fonso]

and another thing of the half dozen places i do play at,videoslots is by far the place ive has less withdrawls

 

[dionysus]

they can tell you anything at the end of the day,plus there are many different versions of bonanza,all slot providers have lower RTP versions why would BTG be any different ?

there's one version of bonanza
providers offer lower models by demand
BTG likely doesnt need different models as they have ridic HV games
Could they lie? Surely...but I cant see a reason....theyre insanely, by design, high HV

 

[greylady]

I have actually given up playing because the slots feel different, it's nigh on impossible to get ahead and game play is sooo predictable.

I do sometimes wonder if bonus buys have something to do with it. In the UK we have to grind it out, whilst everyone else can buy the bonus!

Either that or the slot providers/casino's are raking the money in before they hit and run from the UK.

Take a break Snorks

 

[gonzo fonso]

there's one version of bonanza
providers offer lower models by demand
BTG likely doesnt need different models as they have ridic HV games
Could they lie? Surely...but I cant see a reason....theyre insanely, by design, high HV

there maybe only one version of bonanza for you,but here in the uk playing at sky vegas,videoslots,32 red,pokerstars and others its not the exact same version

 

[dionysus]

there maybe only one version of bonanza for you,but here in the uk playing at sky vegas,videoslots,32 red,pokerstars and others its not the exact same version

unless something has drastically changed, BTG leases out one single RTP version, UK or otherwise
But again, I'll defer to @dunover on this

 

[orion]

I....dont understand your post
BTG only offers one model

Dio, of course I don't know, since only an insider can be 100% sure about that, BUT

BUT this BTG company is offering their games to italian casinos since years, and if this cannot be considered as a 100% proof, at least it is an important clue. FYI, they weren't even considering to offer Relax games till few weeks ago. Now Relax has capitulated and they are approacing them.

As about me, I also gave up, non only with BTG (even if BTG was the first to be blacklisted on my gameplan), but with slotting in general. The results had dropped down in a dramatically way, and it is not funny anymore.

I also closed many casino accounts, the good is that I am saving money, the bad is that after the accounts closing I have been sold and now I spend a lot of time to defend my data and my credit cards.

 

[anddi32]

BTG offers different models even under MGA. But it's because platforms.
I think there is at least Bonanza under Relax-platform and Bonanza under NYX-platform.
So the model version is different, the rules and RTP are the same

 

[dionysus]

BTG offers different models even under MGA. But it's because platforms.
I think there is at least Bonanza under Relax-platform and Bonanza under NYX-platform.
So the model version is different, the rules and RTP are the same

I'm happy to own, I'm 6 mo behind the curve and catching up so ty for any educated fill-ups.

 

[snorky510238]

Ok
Granted, casinos are massively dropping RTP
They ARE opting for lower RTP offerimgs. They are filling pockets and giving less back.
You KNOW this.
You are AWARE of this.
You are.... WE all are. this is pretty much public knowledge, out there, in here.
So....
Stop playing or find casinos with better RTP
I dont get the OP
If you know....scout elsewhere, or dont play

This is NOT rocket science

Are you purposely ignoring the OP? I have stated twice now that I have rarely played games that have a reduced rtp. Are you actually reading the posts properly or just skimming them. You keep coming back with reduced rtp, reduced rtp, like a bleeding parrot, when I made a point of stating I don’t play them to avoid that standard reply.

 

[mightydegen]

Providers constructing games, whereby the rtp might be somewhere near advertised but is programmed in such a way that you might hit rtp but never achieve a withdraw-able balance.

I understand your frustration, but this is impossible. Each and every games is tested and verified by independent test houses who are accredited by the relevant gambling authority. What you're suggesting is actual fraud, not only does it discredit themselves, but the provider and the whole industry. There are countless audits which verify that this type of practice does not happen, the governance wrapped around this is huge.
There are so many reasons why this is happening to you, I'll list a few below, have a think.
- Change in slot style, you're playing highly volatile games which burn you out much faster
- The games you're playing are 94% and below
- You're playing on average higher stakes than usual due to frustration
- Your pattern of play is different, less spins per game hoping to hit bonuses early on

...And that's to name just a few

 

[dionysus]

Are you purposely ignoring the OP? I have stated twice now that I have rarely played games that have a reduced rtp. Are you actually reading the posts properly or just skimming them. You keep coming back with reduced rtp, reduced rtp, like a bleeding parrot, when I made a point of stating I don’t play them to avoid that standard reply.

Not sure why the fussy angry post?
I read every post and replied to many
Please don't talk parroting. You've......300 posts in a Bonanza thread 'parroting' the same issue

 

[snorky510238]

BTG offers different models even under MGA. But it's because platforms.
I think there is at least Bonanza under Relax-platform and Bonanza under NYX-platform.
So the model version is different, the rules and RTP are the same

But they aren’t though and this has been proven. The rules or programming or whatever you want to call it, at Sky was different. When landing the 117 max ways, scatters never appeared. It was mentioned in the thread and as if by magic, they started appearing. (After about 4 years).

N.B. I don’t see how a member of the public can state there is only version. There’s more evidence to suggest otherwise than there is to back up those statements.

 

[dionysus]

N.B. I don’t see how a member of the public can state there is only version. There’s more evidence to suggest otherwise than there is to back up those statements.

Rather than speculate...tag.......
@Casinomeister
@maxd
@dunover
sorry, I dont know the tag for BTG

and request answers, and the forum will be aware, yes? Win-win

 

[mightydegen]

But they aren’t though and this has been proven. The rules or programming or whatever you want to call it, at Sky was different. When landing the 117 max ways, scatters never appeared. It was mentioned in the thread and as if by magic, they started appearing. (After about 4 years).

N.B. I don’t see how a member of the public can state there is only version. There’s more evidence to suggest otherwise than there is to back up those statements.

This is borderline whacko-conspiracy theory. You are so incredibly wrong.

 

[paul7388]

Rather than speculate...tag.......
@Casinomeister
@maxd
@dunover
sorry, I dont know the tag for BTG

and request answers, and the forum will be aware, yes? Win-win

And the point of tagging them would be what.

Max does not gamble so would never know if slots have changed.

Bryan as far as I am aware does not play Bonanza every day.

And Dunover has openly stated he thinks the way the game has played is different.

 

[bamberfishcake]

Personally 110% certain Immortal Romance has been updated. No way is that game the same IR of old.

Trouble is Snork, let's assume you're right, none of us will find out. Probably best to play somewhere else if the run is really bad at VS.

Remember Nikantw? Also stopped paying at VS because he thought something shady was going on.

Bad show in here for laying into a member about expressing his views in my opinion. Not some newbie who joined to try and get his money back after skirting around RG. This is the Snorksta, have some respect.

 

[paul7388]

This is borderline whacko-conspiracy theory. You are so incredibly wrong.

Think you need to do research before you say it is whacko theory.

Maybe the game still runs at same RTP and maybe Snorky is just unlucky.

But fact is the game did have different versions. The version at sky Vegas did not contain scatters during Max Megaways and that is a fact backed up by every player that played it in the Bonanza thread.

So that alone proves different versions. And fact it has changed and now has the scatters shows a version can and will be changed in updates. And not a single whacko conspiracy theory needed to prove that.

 

[mightydegen]

Personally 110% certain Immortal Romance has been updated. No way is that game the same IR of old.

Trouble is Snork, let's assume you're right, none of us will find out. Probably best to play somewhere else if the run is really bad at VS.

Remember Nikantw? Also stopped paying at VS because he thought something shady was going on.

Bad show in here for laying into a member about expressing his views in my opinion. Not some newbie who joined to try and get his money back after skirting around RG. This is the Snorksta, have some respect.

You can quite easily fetch Immortal Romance certificates dating back to the original launch date to verify what you're speculating, I suggest you do so.

 

[dionysus]

And the point of tagging them would be what.

Um? Because if you want to post, have questions and concerns about casinos, in the forum you came to about casinos, laden with industry experts about casinos?
I'd think that's rather self-evident, no?
Did you think @Casinomeister just dropped in to add emojis
?

 

[bamberfishcake]

You can quite easily fetch Immortal Romance certificates dating back to the original launch date to verify what you're speculating, I suggest you do so.

Yes, like you can get your hands on the publicly disclosed info from Pfizer about the vaccines being 100% effective.

I don't care what the certificate says. My experience is the game has noticeably changed.

I suggest you go and prove me wrong

 

[snorky510238]

This is borderline whacko-conspiracy theory. You are so incredibly wrong.

And your proof please?

 

[snorky510238]

@dunover amongst many others, stated time and again how Raging Rhino had changed. These are seasoned members who I trust, have enough experience for their statements to be valid.

My point being is that, I didn’t see one single post defending the gimping of that game so why are people so confident, that it hasn’t happened with BTG games?