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mightydegen

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Yes, like you can get your hands on the publicly disclosed info from Pfizer about the vaccines being 100% effective.

I don't care what the certificate says. My experience is the game has noticeably changed.

I suggest you go and prove me wrong :)
Except in these certificates you are given the SHA-1 and hash values which, if you wanted to, you could reverse engineer and verify yourself.

It's all there for you to do exactly that. Go and prove yourself wrong :)
 
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Except in these certificates you are given the SHA-1 and hash values which, if you wanted to, you could reverse engineer and verify yourself.

It's all there for you to do exactly that.

Yes, great idea, will do that during my lunch. Or, just not play the game which I believe has been nerfed.....hmmm.....

Just because a slot has certificates and has been through testing, it's not a foolproof system.

Plenty of games get pulled due to errors in programming. It's not hard to believe that some errors might work in the favour of casino and developer, and not hard to believe it would just be left if it did.

The actual point I should have made clearer was that I think some people could have been nicer over a valued member's post.
 

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Um? Because if you want to post, have questions and concerns about casinos, in the forum you came to about casinos, laden with industry experts about casinos?
I'd think that's rather self-evident, no?
Did you think @Casinomeister just dropped in to add emojis
?
You obviously find it self evident.

I dont.

But see you seem to be in some sort of sarcastic mood today. And whether Bryan just comes here to add emojis or not is besides the point.

So since you obviously know everything feel free to enlighten as to how Bryan would be able to prove if Bonanza had changed or not. Would he ask the BTG rep who is proven to lie and not answer questions for clarity. Exactly so what's the point of tagging him to this thread.
 

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Oh how his forum has deteriorated!

Can someone not state their opinion without it turning into a mud slinging match! I am sure we all have at some point doubted the authenticity of a slot and it's supposed potential, respect someone's opinion even if you don't agree and we can all play nice again :)
 

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let's be clear here, Paul, your only contribution to this thread, has been snark.
I tagged staff because one or several can add value to the thread (@maxd for casino concerns, @dunover for up-tp-date casino knowledge and @Casinomeister for, well, his site and accredited casino that was tagged...it IS in the header
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let's be clear here, Paul, your only contribution to this thread, has been snark.
I tagged staff because one or several can add value to the thread (@maxd for casino concerns, @dunover for up-tp-date casino knowledge and @Casinomeister for, well, his site and accredited casino that was tagged
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Oh calm down Dio! You are like a dog with a bone at times tut x
 

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let's be clear here, Paul, your only contribution to this thread, has been snark.
I tagged staff because one or several can add value to the thread (@maxd for casino concerns, @dunover for up-tp-date casino knowledge and @Casinomeister for, well, his site and accredited casino that was tagged
Dont like it? PM them
WTF. My contribution to this thread has been so far to say that PMing staff will not help on whether that slot has changed. And a post saying that it was not whacko as it was proven the slot did not have scatters in Max Megaways at a certain casino.

And now you are saying I am basically here just to mix things. Whatever, you are the one that has been posting as if you know all and trying to belittle people.

And why would I PM any staff. No reason to. But hey you feel free since you spend a lot of time PMing and tagging them every chance you get.
 

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WTF. My contribution to this thread has been so far to say that PMing staff will not help
If you don't believe PMing admin doesnt help, youre part of the problem.
Bryan can't read every thread and relies on senior members letting him know when there's problems.
 

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Frankly, the guru here is @dunover who has his finger on the pulse of RTP
Crikey! cool down peeps, it's a pretty basic, straightforward and resolvable point!

Right, Relax Gaming (who BTG still use as their platform) certainly do offer variable RTPs for their games, but not as low in range as Netent/PNG. They just tend to be a 50% higher house edge variant (which means 94% player RTP as opposed to the factory 96%) and that's true of Pragmatic Play and NLC and Push Gaming as well. So this applies to Relax and any smaller developers they have that actually do this. Then consider Relax are now part of WMS-SG-Light & Wonder who also have numerous developer names within their fold of which many offer variants too. BTG as far as I am aware from the game sheets that I have seen still don't offer lower versions although I think it's only a matter of time.

EDIT - P.S. Yes, there are clearly different versions of Bonanza (we know this anyway from the 'version code' in the game files) but they all have the same RTP. Why this is, I cannot say for sure but I'd suggest that being the main bed of Megaways feedback Bonanza would be ideal to 'tinker' with, not necessarily at the behest of the casino or platform but the developer. If you remember, one of the earlier observations about the game was the fact you couldn't get max ways in the bonus, which was changed for WWTBAM and other BTG Megaways since, including the most recent Max Megaways slot. We know the version SkyVegas and some other casinos used would never produce scatters in max ways spins for example, therefore giving more likelihood of bigger wins in their place.

As for NYX, they don't exist as such any more. NYX Open Group began in 1999 and were primarily a platform for Nextgen Gaming slots and others too, but are now owned by SG Digital/Light & Wonder as are Relax. So it's likely that if they haven't already, you'll be seeing a single platform not the both.
 
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@dionysus you should read the thread back when you have a clearer head.

Not your proudest moment, you're coming across as narrow-minded, very condescending, and quite self-rightious.

Not helpful for a MOD.
Er, not a mod? out of the loop, much?
 

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That is why I posted because I have reached the stage, where I can no longer have any confidence in any Casino.

If you could see my gameplay for the last 6 months at all the Casinos I play, then you would see, the stark similarities.

This cannot be down to bad luck, it really can’t. I am not one to question things unless I have good reason to do so.

As for the variance being changed, I will absolutely guarantee you that Bonanza, DHV, Chilli and Millionaire, have all been altered.

Bonanza, to the degree where it’s unrecognisable from the original version. I used to have sessions on that, where I could regularly hit between 5 and 10 bonuses and come away with a decent win.

Now your lucky if you see one bonus in 1,000 spins and when you do it generally pays less than x100.

This is partly why I have posted this because I am done with online slotting. I am walking away from the turgid filthy industry that it has become.

It may not be anytime soon but one day the truth will come out about it all.
everything you said above is why i quit for good. filth beyond reproach every single site. and i don’t think for one minute the “advertised” higher rtp ones are in fact are the correct rtp. i also believe they use algorithms to see how you play etc and once they have you sussed your screwed you just will not
win at all. how can all sites be playing the exact same way there’s fair
losses over time then a complete and utter smash and grab theft which is what’s been happening i would say since covid for whatever reason that’s when i noticed the changes. video slots is filth utter filth and so are all the other sites bentvictor ladcrooks coral paddy plunder the lot of them but they will never answer to anybody because there’s too much ££££££ exchanging hands.
 

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Right, Relax Gaming (who BTG still use as their platform) certainly do offer variable RTPs for their games, but not as low in range as Netent/PNG. They just tend to be a 50% higher house edge variant (which means 94% player RTP as opposed to the factory 96%) and that's true of Pragmatic Play and NLC and Push Gaming as well. So this applies to Relax and any smaller developers they have that actually do this. Then consider Relax are now part of WMS-SG-Light & Wonder who also have numerous developer names within their fold of which many offer varaints too. BTG as far as I am aware from the game sheets that I have seen still don't offer lower versions although I think it's only a mtter of time.
And this thread actually had nothing to do with RTP at all.

It was about how some things do not feel right.

But Dionysus decided to ignore that and turn it into a RTP thread and Try and belittle everyone and see how many arguments he can cause. Greylady summed it up perfect he is being a drama queen for whatever reason. If it is because he is drunk hope he reads it back when sober.
 

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And this thread actually had nothing to do with RTP at all.

It was about how some things do not feel right.

But Dionysus
Funnily, not tagging, I still read threads.
And well, I didnt turn it into anything
but ty for your usual jump-in make it an issue stir-the-pot post after the fact late in the day
Tagging staff and admin is simply SMART....you visit this site for, wel, expertise.
Staff and admin (and many members) provide that.
That is a GOOD thing
If you DON'T want srellar input....why bother?
 

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Funnily, not tagging, I still read threads.
And well, I didnt turn it into anything
but ty for your usual jump-in make it an issue stir-the-pot post after the fact late in the day
Tagging staff and admin is simply SMART....you visit this site for, wel, expertise.
Staff and admin (and many members) provide that.
That is a GOOD thing
If you DON'T want srellar input....why bother?
So let me see. In your eyes a member can not read a thread. Decide he wants to make a valid comment or 2 . Neither of which were mixing or causing trouble and post them.

But if a member has posted in thread from start. He can totally change what thread was about. Belittle all the other members. Be a complete prat who is embarrassing himself.

Then when people are disagreeing tag all the senior staff . But keep going it is not me you are embarrassing lol.
 

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So let me see. In your eyes a member can not read a thread. Decide he wants to make a valid comment or 2 . Neither of which were mixing or causing trouble and post them.

But if a member has posted in thread from start. He can totally change what thread was about. Belittle all the other members. Be a complete prat who is embarrassing himself.

Then when people are disagreeing tag all the senior staff . But keep going it is not me you are embarrassing lol.
Wait, sorry, I was supossed to agree?
Which way do you want it?

geez, agree, I'm an ass
Disagree I'm an ass
Seems...your issue?
:eek2:
 

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