UK Conservative Party Leadership Election

[goatwack]

Pochettino and Kane? Have they not got a match tomorrow?

No one wants to present it! Purely to get Twitter clout in solidarity for Lineker!

At this rate they'll have to pull the show, or draft in the CBBC lot!

 

[goatwack]

I think it's fucking brilliant, a group of people who can't be cowed because they've got enough cash to just say fuck off to the BBC and their Tory paymasters, and plough their own furrow.

Braverman and her evil needs to be called out, I salute those who are doing so.

Go Gary, and everyone who stands in solidarity with him.

Yet it's not the platform to fight that particular battle on

 

[dunover]

I think it's fucking brilliant, a group of people who can't be cowed because they've got enough cash to just say fuck off to the BBC and their Tory paymasters, and plough their own furrow.

Braverman and her evil needs to be called out, I salute those who are doing so.

Go Gary, and everyone who stands in solidarity with him.

Ermm, paid to them under threat of fines and/or imprisonment by us. Even you can see the irony there, myopic as your views are.

P.S. Ever heard of breach of contract terms? Might be just a little more basic than you would like to believe.

BBC can now clear out the dead wood and replace them with Mataface etc. who can actually talk without umming and aaahing every 10 seconds. Could work out quite well. I remember you getting offended when I compared your outbursts to Lord Haw-Haw. Yet not a word from you when some IQ-deficient BBC drone compares stopping criminal trespassers with the mechanised murder of millions by the Nazis. I do love your hypocrisy and disingenuity. Makes you the person you are.

 

[goatwack]

MOTD to be 'Highlights only'

Why not just do that all the time, and save themselves around £2m p/a on their luvvie presenters?

 

[slot_zombie]

MOTD to be 'Highlights only'

Could be a very short show...

 

[mack341]

Actually I think this new partnership for motd would work for me

 

[dunover]

MOTD to be 'Highlights only'

Why not just do that all the time, and save themselves around £2m p/a on their luvvie presenters?

I was just about to say the same. Bliss has arrived. Football highlights with no punditry, just the games. No heat maps, pointless stats, debates about whether a penalty was a penalty - as Clough used to say, "It WAS as penalty because the ref said it was.." No padding it out with pointless inquiries about every decision. True socialism and equality has arrived at MoTD....

No smarmy wannabe Lenin earning a nurse's annual salary for each one day of work a week to make 1 hour or so of late night TV.

P.S.

Mind you, he could pay for 150 nurses for a year if he loses his tax avoidance case with the HMRC, as one of many 'self employed' celebrities who have used the 'freelance' tax-avoidance scheme.

The Match of The Day host has been told by HMRC that he is not a freelancer but rather an employee of the BBC and BT Sports and could face a tax liability of £4.9 million.

"Amongst other celebrity broadcasters, Gary Lineker has been listed to be investigated by HMRC to which the matter will move on to a full hearing. HMRC is now pursuing him for £4.9 million that should have been paid on income between the period of 2013 and 2018 comprising of £3,621,735.90 in income tax and a further £1,307,160.46 in NI contributions. Gary insists that all taxes were paid on the income via a partnership Gary Lineker Media (GLM) in the sum of around £600,000 and the company is appealing against the assessments. This meaning that the star can avoid paying employers national insurance contributions but would be liable to pay the same if the appeal is unsuccessful."

As HMRC are going to classify that his extensive work for BT Sport and BBC should make him an employee for tax purposes, this would mean that the HMRC would need to prove the two sports entertainment companies had control over him or he had editorial independence.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Yet it's not the platform to fight that particular battle on

He posted on Twitter, not on the BBC. If he sat down in his MOTD chair and started with the political stuff then yes, that's a problem, but he kept it entirely on Twitter.

Lineker was telling the truth, the language coming out of some branches of the Tory Party at the moment is reminiscent of early 1930s Germany, he's not going straight for the 'Nazi' parallel, simply making an accurate observation about the language being used - and the snowflakes can't tolerate a football pundit telling them the truth.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Ermm, paid to them under threat of fines and/or imprisonment by us. Even you can see the irony there, myopic as your views are.

P.S. Ever heard of breach of contract terms? Might be just a little more basic than you would like to believe.

BBC can now clear out the dead wood and replace them with Mataface etc. who can actually talk without umming and aaahing every 10 seconds. Could work out quite well. I remember you getting offended when I compared your outbursts to Lord Haw-Haw. Yet not a word from you when some IQ-deficient BBC drone compares stopping criminal trespassers with the mechanised murder of millions by the Nazis. I do love your hypocrisy and disingenuity. Makes you the person you are.

That's absolutely not the comparison he made, like, literally, those aren't even remotely the words he used or the point he was making.

Also I know you like to rewrite history when it suits, so here's me getting 'offended' about your Haw-Haw remark - UK Conservative Party Leadership Election - Page 6 - Casinomeister Forum

 

[goatwack]

He posted on Twitter, not on the BBC. If he sat down in his MOTD chair and started with the political stuff then yes, that's a problem, but he kept it entirely on Twitter.

Lineker was telling the truth, the language coming out of some branches of the Tory Party at the moment is reminiscent of early 1930s Germany, he's not going straight for the 'Nazi' parallel, simply making an accurate observation about the language being used - and the snowflakes can't tolerate a football pundit telling them the truth.

All the while whilst employed by the BBC, knowing full well that he shouldn't, and the very reasons many of the other BBC staff don't. He's like a law unto himself, and I think I've seen some observers remark that he is MOTD - a sure-fire sign that Lineker likely thinks he's bigger than any show, institution or things called 'rules'

Fact is, like I and others have mentioned, freedom of speech is just that, Lineker can opine on all manner of topics 'til the cows come home, that's his right of expression; some will agree, some disagree.

Yet like with most things, if one starts airing controversial views on Social Media, it'll inevitably reflect on one's employers, who'll back you to the hilt, or run for the hills and disavow ever having known you. And in Lineker's case, he knows as part of his BBC contract that that's a big no-no.

I get it, he felt compelled to breach those terms and be a voice for the disaffected, and subsequently double-down because he's on the right side of history. Yet unfortunately for him, that's not how his employers see it, and have rightfully taken him to task over it (somewhat surprisingly though, given all they've turned a blind eye to prior).....

I think most can attest to watching MOTD and other sports shows to get away from politics and suchlike, and seeing uncle Gary start open BBC's World Cup coverage with a sermonizing segment about Dubai (whilst of course going to attend the event, along with all the aggrieved crew.....instead of boycotting the entire thing) tells you that he has no qualms about shoehorning politics into sport.

Although it must be said, the Beeb clearly had no beef with him doing that in November, as it's unlikely to have been him that compiled the human rights video that kicked off the show. If anyone's truly being suspect in their judgement, it's the BBC, who have pretty much enabled him for the longest time now

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Let's be honest with ourselves though goaty, if Lineker had Tweeted about how he approved of the government's policy on small boats and refugees, he'd still be presenting MOTD tonight - we all know it.

It's not speaking out politically that's led to the BBC taking action on Lineker, it's what he said and about whom.

That's the thing with the right wing, it loves free speech until it's about them.



And let's just remind ourselves of what Lineker actually said, that has caused so much clutching of pearls and behaviour that would be derided as 'snowflakey' if the boot had been on the other foot.

Ahhh cancel culture eh?

OK for some though.....

 

[ChopleyIOM]

This was how the BBC replied to a complaint about Andrew Neil in 2020.

Getting a bit awkward, isn't it?....

 

[dunover]

Line-cur - pay your fucking taxes (I wonder if @ChopleyIOM 's mates at PE will mention that one? Naaaahh....)
Line-cur - spend some of your cash (after tax) and buy a refugee hotel at your expense.
Line-cur - save us license payers 29k a week.
Line-cur - then fuck-offand become a politician or a 'uman rites, innit lawyer, then accept your honorary doctorates from various universities and lecture students, not us tax payers.

Just remember folks - BBC pundits didn't have a problem picking up a cheque whilst commenting on matches in a regime that uses slaves and throws gay people off buildings and daily stoning. Nevermind eh?

And where was the 'solidarity' when Matt LeTissier was booted from Sky Sports for doing the same as Line-cur?

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Oh dear, this isn't great....

There is literally nothing that Boris Johnson touches that doesn't turn to shit. He parachuted a multi-millionaire Tory donor, who also personally sorted out an £800K loan for him, into the top job at the BBC, a job he clearly isn't fit for.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Line-cur - pay your fucking taxes (I wonder if @ChopleyIOM 's mates at PE will mention that one? Naaaahh....)
Line-cur - spend some of your cash (after tax) and buy a refugee hotel at your expense.
Line-cur - save us license payers 29k a week.
Line-cur - then fuck-offand become a politician or a 'uman rites, innit lawyer, then accept your honorary doctorates from various universities and lecture students, not us tax payers.

Just remember folks - BBC pundits didn't have a problem picking up a cheque whilst commenting on matches in a regime that uses slaves and throws gay people off buildings and daily stoning. Nevermind eh?

And where was the 'solidarity' when Matt LeTissier was booted from Sky Sports for doing the same as Line-cur?

Flurble blurble blather bluster - straight into the dunover collection of rambling nonsense posts that say nothing and just shout at the clouds, it'll sit nicely alongside your bizarre extended rant about how leaving the EU had gifted the UK the ability to fart whenever it wanted without fear of the EU telling it off.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Jeremy Clarkson saying public sector workers on strike should be executed in front of their families, and I'm not even exaggerating for effect, those are his exact words.

Worked for the BBC for another five years after this, until they finally sacked him after he physically assaulted one of his staff for not getting him a hot meal.

Gary Lineker on the other hand, see, he was on the wrong side of the debate.

 

[dunover]

Flurble blurble blather bluster - straight into the dunover collection of rambling nonsense posts that say nothing and just shout at the clouds, it'll sit nicely alongside your bizarre extended rant about how leaving the EU had gifted the UK the ability to fart whenever it wanted without fear of the EU telling it off.

Nice to see a woketard like yourself sucking up to a multimillionaire tax-avoider, the kind so deserving of mentions in PE but who is somehow omitted due to his woke views..... A man who collects a nurse's annual salary for a day's work a week, from us (do you pay a TV license fee as it is supposed to be paid in the IoM, like elsewhere?) under threat of fine and/or imprisonment.

So let's pro-rata that up a bit. His 1 day a week at £1.35m pa. So then with the PM doing 5 days a week, also with a long summer off (like the MoTD staff get as there's a 2-3 month close-season) should therefore get a £7.2m salary off us taxpayers? Could you imagine it? Let's sell that one to the public employees....

'More rambling nonsense from dunover' when you have no answer to my valid points of course. When the inconvenient truth smacks you in the face and exposes your hypocrisy, yet again.

FTR:

1. Wealthy tax dodgers are OK as long as they profess the 'correct' woke opinions in @ChopleyIOM world.
2. I repeat my sentence from before - BBC pundits didn't have a problem picking up a cheque whilst commenting on matches in a regime that uses slaves and throws gay people off buildings and daily stoning. Nevermind eh?

Perhaps you, like Mr. Smug, need a history lesson regarding 1930's statements from the Nazi regime, culminating in Kristallnacht when 'real Germans' were encouraged to smash windows of homes and destroy businesses of 'undesirables' as a final warning it would be a good idea to leave while you can....

I await such a statement from the present government with bated breath.

 

[dunover]

 

[goatwack]

Haha! Not even the MOTD theme tune!

And no commentary! It's like being at the ground!

 

[sufferinsilence]

Haha! Not even the MOTD theme tune!

And no commentary! It's like being at the ground!

Finally your time to shine and outdo all those overpaid commentators from the Beeb.

"Haaland shoots aaaaaaaaand he misses."

 

[goatwack]

Finally your time to shine and outdo all those overpaid commentators from the Beeb.

"Haaland shoots aaaaaaaaand he misses."

"That tackle from behind went right through him"

 

[sufferinsilence]

"That tackle from behind went right through him"

Anyway, I can imagine the Premier League won't be very happy with this format of presenting the highlights.

Was there really not 1 tory at BBC Sport wanting to do some voice-over at least?

 

[goatwack]

Hands down the best MOTD in the last decade!

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Nice to see a woketard like yourself sucking up to a multimillionaire tax-avoider, the kind so deserving of mentions in PE but who is somehow omitted due to his woke views..... A man who collects a nurse's annual salary for a day's work a week, from us (do you pay a TV license fee as it is supposed to be paid in the IoM, like elsewhere?) under threat of fine and/or imprisonment.

So let's pro-rata that up a bit. His 1 day a week at £1.35m pa. So then with the PM doing 5 days a week, also with a long summer off (like the MoTD staff get as there's a 2-3 month close-season) should therefore get a £7.2m salary off us taxpayers? Could you imagine it? Let's sell that one to the public employees....

'More rambling nonsense from dunover' when you have no answer to my valid points of course. When the inconvenient truth smacks you in the face and exposes your hypocrisy, yet again.

FTR:

1. Wealthy tax dodgers are OK as long as they profess the 'correct' woke opinions in @ChopleyIOM world.
2. I repeat my sentence from before - BBC pundits didn't have a problem picking up a cheque whilst commenting on matches in a regime that uses slaves and throws gay people off buildings and daily stoning. Nevermind eh?

Perhaps you, like Mr. Smug, need a history lesson regarding 1930's statements from the Nazi regime, culminating in Kristallnacht when 'real Germans' were encouraged to smash windows of homes and destroy businesses of 'undesirables' as a final warning it would be a good idea to leave while you can....

I await such a statement from the present government with bated breath.

I honestly have no idea what your point even is. You seem to think Lineker's tax efficiency scheme is some sort of slam dunk auto-win button when it's got absolutely cock all to do with the issue at hand. It's something wealthy people do, it sucks, but it's legal and very common. If he loses his case against HMRC he'll have to pay a load of overdue tax and quite right too. Lord Rothermere - (owner of the Daily Mail, which I see is going for Lineker big time, today's issue was on sale in Shoprite when I did some shopping this morning) - isn't even resident in the UK for tax purposes, preferring instead to be a non-dom who lives in France (that's how much he loves the UK), and owns the parent company of the Daily Mail through a load of tax-dodging companies in Bermuda.

As for the Qatari world cup, I made my feelings on that clear at the time (here in the CM thread), you could argue they should have refused to cover it at all, but they had nothing to do with the decision of where to host it (we have FIFA's utterly mind-boggling corruption to thank for that), and commentary was made about Qatar's human rights record, which I felt was appropriate.

As for Lineker's pay, again, what does that have to do with his right (or not) to express a personal political view on Twitter? What he earns is agreed between himself and the BBC, he's amongst their top talent and hosts their flagship sports show, so he gets well paid. And yes we do pay the licence fee here on the IOM, we have a TV Licence for our house and have done for decades, I'm not entirely happy with how the BBC spends all its money (their news output at the moment is shameful, they are so badly cowed by the Tories), a mate of mine has boycotted Radio 4 because he can't tolerate its obvious political timidity and kow-towing to the government - but overall they produce a lot of good stuff. (I'd probably pay the licence fee just for Radio 6 TBH.)

Anyway, all of that is white noise around the core issue here, in that Lineker was singled out for expressing a political opinion that's critical of the government, as I said yesterday, if he'd Tweeted in support of the government's refugee policy, we all know he'd have been presenting MOTD as usual last night.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I was just about to say the same. Bliss has arrived. Football highlights with no punditry, just the games. No heat maps, pointless stats, debates about whether a penalty was a penalty - as Clough used to say, "It WAS as penalty because the ref said it was.." No padding it out with pointless inquiries about every decision. True socialism and equality has arrived at MoTD....

This you dunover?