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Yet it's not the platform to fight that particular battle onI think it's fucking brilliant, a group of people who can't be cowed because they've got enough cash to just say fuck off to the BBC and their Tory paymasters, and plough their own furrow.
Braverman and her evil needs to be called out, I salute those who are doing so.
Go Gary, and everyone who stands in solidarity with him.
Ermm, paid to them under threat of fines and/or imprisonment by us. Even you can see the irony there, myopic as your views are.I think it's fucking brilliant, a group of people who can't be cowed because they've got enough cash to just say fuck off to the BBC and their Tory paymasters, and plough their own furrow.
Braverman and her evil needs to be called out, I salute those who are doing so.
Go Gary, and everyone who stands in solidarity with him.


Could be a very short show...MOTD to be 'Highlights only'![]()

I was just about to say the same. Bliss has arrived. Football highlights with no punditry, just the games. No heat maps, pointless stats, debates about whether a penalty was a penalty - as Clough used to say, "It WAS as penalty because the ref said it was.." No padding it out with pointless inquiries about every decision. True socialism and equality has arrived at MoTD....MOTD to be 'Highlights only'
Why not just do that all the time, and save themselves around £2m p/a on their luvvie presenters?![]()
Yet it's not the platform to fight that particular battle on
Ermm, paid to them under threat of fines and/or imprisonment by us. Even you can see the irony there, myopic as your views are.
P.S. Ever heard of breach of contract terms? Might be just a little more basic than you would like to believe.
BBC can now clear out the dead wood and replace them with Mataface etc. who can actually talk without umming and aaahing every 10 seconds. Could work out quite well. I remember you getting offended when I compared your outbursts to Lord Haw-Haw. Yet not a word from you when some IQ-deficient BBC drone compares stopping criminal trespassers with the mechanised murder of millions by the Nazis. I do love your hypocrisy and disingenuity. Makes you the person you are.![]()
All the while whilst employed by the BBC, knowing full well that he shouldn't, and the very reasons many of the other BBC staff don't. He's like a law unto himself, and I think I've seen some observers remark that he is MOTD - a sure-fire sign that Lineker likely thinks he's bigger than any show, institution or things called 'rules'He posted on Twitter, not on the BBC. If he sat down in his MOTD chair and started with the political stuff then yes, that's a problem, but he kept it entirely on Twitter.
Lineker was telling the truth, the language coming out of some branches of the Tory Party at the moment is reminiscent of early 1930s Germany, he's not going straight for the 'Nazi' parallel, simply making an accurate observation about the language being used - and the snowflakes can't tolerate a football pundit telling them the truth.



Line-cur - pay your fucking taxes (I wonder if @ChopleyIOM 's mates at PE will mention that one? Naaaahh....)
Line-cur - spend some of your cash (after tax) and buy a refugee hotel at your expense.
Line-cur - save us license payers 29k a week.
Line-cur - then fuck-offand become a politician or a 'uman rites, innit lawyer, then accept your honorary doctorates from various universities and lecture students, not us tax payers.
Just remember folks - BBC pundits didn't have a problem picking up a cheque whilst commenting on matches in a regime that uses slaves and throws gay people off buildings and daily stoning. Nevermind eh?
And where was the 'solidarity' when Matt LeTissier was booted from Sky Sports for doing the same as Line-cur?
Nice to see a woketard like yourself sucking up to a multimillionaire tax-avoider, the kind so deserving of mentions in PE but who is somehow omitted due to his woke views..... A man who collects a nurse's annual salary for a day's work a week, from us (do you pay a TV license fee as it is supposed to be paid in the IoM, like elsewhere?) under threat of fine and/or imprisonment.Flurble blurble blather bluster - straight into the dunover collection of rambling nonsense posts that say nothing and just shout at the clouds, it'll sit nicely alongside your bizarre extended rant about how leaving the EU had gifted the UK the ability to fart whenever it wanted without fear of the EU telling it off.
When the inconvenient truth smacks you in the face and exposes your hypocrisy, yet again.Haha! Not even the MOTD theme tune!
And no commentary! It's like being at the ground!
"That tackle from behind went right through him"

Nice to see a woketard like yourself sucking up to a multimillionaire tax-avoider, the kind so deserving of mentions in PE but who is somehow omitted due to his woke views..... A man who collects a nurse's annual salary for a day's work a week, from us (do you pay a TV license fee as it is supposed to be paid in the IoM, like elsewhere?) under threat of fine and/or imprisonment.
So let's pro-rata that up a bit. His 1 day a week at £1.35m pa. So then with the PM doing 5 days a week, also with a long summer off (like the MoTD staff get as there's a 2-3 month close-season) should therefore get a £7.2m salary off us taxpayers? Could you imagine it? Let's sell that one to the public employees....
'More rambling nonsense from dunover' when you have no answer to my valid points of course.When the inconvenient truth smacks you in the face and exposes your hypocrisy, yet again.
FTR:
1. Wealthy tax dodgers are OK as long as they profess the 'correct' woke opinions in @ChopleyIOM world.
2. I repeat my sentence from before - BBC pundits didn't have a problem picking up a cheque whilst commenting on matches in a regime that uses slaves and throws gay people off buildings and daily stoning. Nevermind eh?
Perhaps you, like Mr. Smug, need a history lesson regarding 1930's statements from the Nazi regime, culminating in Kristallnacht when 'real Germans' were encouraged to smash windows of homes and destroy businesses of 'undesirables' as a final warning it would be a good idea to leave while you can....
I await such a statement from the present government with bated breath.
I was just about to say the same. Bliss has arrived. Football highlights with no punditry, just the games. No heat maps, pointless stats, debates about whether a penalty was a penalty - as Clough used to say, "It WAS as penalty because the ref said it was.." No padding it out with pointless inquiries about every decision. True socialism and equality has arrived at MoTD....
as I said yesterday, if he'd Tweeted in support of the government's refugee policy, we all know he'd have been presenting MOTD as usual last night.
Do you believe if he'd used the same level of rhetoric but in the opposite political direction it wouldn't have caused a shitstorm?
Well let's imagine what that might look like, in fact all we need to do is use the government's own language.
So yeah, I think he'd still have been presenting MOTD.
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Good to see our government taking the strong action required to stop the invasion of illegal asylum seekers across the English Channel, we know most of these are healthy Albanian men with no legitimate claim to be here, and in many cases they have criminal backgrounds, I support Rishi and Suella in clamping down on this modern slavery system.

No, he hasn't been singled out for expressing a contrary opinion, he's been singled out because he's in breach of his contract. Not for the first time. Notwithstanding his erroneous and ignorant blurb comparing a rational action by an elected govt. to prevent illegal entants with the intent of those running the Third Reich, considered very offensive by some.I honestly have no idea what your point even is. You seem to think Lineker's tax efficiency scheme is some sort of slam dunk auto-win button when it's got absolutely cock all to do with the issue at hand. It's something wealthy people do, it sucks, but it's legal and very common. If he loses his case against HMRC he'll have to pay a load of overdue tax and quite right too. Lord Rothermere - (owner of the Daily Mail, which I see is going for Lineker big time, today's issue was on sale in Shoprite when I did some shopping this morning) - isn't even resident in the UK for tax purposes, preferring instead to be a non-dom who lives in France (that's how much he loves the UK), and owns the parent company of the Daily Mail through a load of tax-dodging companies in Bermuda.
As for the Qatari world cup, I made my feelings on that clear at the time (here in the CM thread), you could argue they should have refused to cover it at all, but they had nothing to do with the decision of where to host it (we have FIFA's utterly mind-boggling corruption to thank for that), and commentary was made about Qatar's human rights record, which I felt was appropriate.
As for Lineker's pay, again, what does that have to do with his right (or not) to express a personal political view on Twitter? What he earns is agreed between himself and the BBC, he's amongst their top talent and hosts their flagship sports show, so he gets well paid. And yes we do pay the licence fee here on the IOM, we have a TV Licence for our house and have done for decades, I'm not entirely happy with how the BBC spends all its money (their news output at the moment is shameful, they are so badly cowed by the Tories), a mate of mine has boycotted Radio 4 because he can't tolerate its obvious political timidity and kow-towing to the government - but overall they produce a lot of good stuff. (I'd probably pay the licence fee just for Radio 6 TBH.)
Anyway, all of that is white noise around the core issue here, in that Lineker was singled out for expressing a political opinion that's critical of the government, as I said yesterday, if he'd Tweeted in support of the government's refugee policy, we all know he'd have been presenting MOTD as usual last night.
No, but he seems to have a point, as viewing figures were UP 20%:
No, but he seems to have a point, as viewing figures were UP 20%:
(From BBC News) "Viewing figures were up by almost half a million to 2.58m."
People don't watch MoTD to see Captain Smarm, Shearer, Wright, Micah Michelin-Mann, Scott or whatever selection of clowns they overpay for their hour's work, but the FOOTBALL!
Why wait - there's another tonight.I suspect there was a lot of rubbernecking to see what was going to happen, let's see what transpires next week.
No, he hasn't been singled out for expressing a contrary opinion, he's been singled out because he's in breach of his contract. Not for the first time. Notwithstanding his erroneous and ignorant blurb comparing a rational action by an elected govt. to prevent illegal entants with the intent of those running the Third Reich, considered very offensive by some.
Not sure that is in quite the same ballpark as the rhetoric he used, but even this milquetoast interpretation would have labour and immigration supporters up in arms to the bbc.
I wonder if any of his colleagues and friends now standing up for him over this, actually endorsed his view at the time enough to retweet it, I bet there were none
The bbc have provided him with a national platform, yes he was well known as a footballer but without the weekly reminder [and earlier tv work] he would've probably faded to Teddy Sheringham levels of public fame and interest by now.
Why wait - there's another tonight.

Andrew Neil worked for the BBC for years, whilst routinely expressing strong right wing opinions on Twitter and being the editor of The Spectator, a hard right wing publication. And of course he was a political journalist at the BBC, so far more of a conflict of interest than a sports commentator making a personal political comment on Twitter.
Did you see all us lefty liberal snowflakes getting up in arms about that? I knew full well Andrew Neil was very right wing (and very vocally so) but he seemed to keep it away from his job at the BBC and always gave politicians of any stripe a decent grilling when he was interviewing them, no big deal.
Lineker himself Tweeted 'Bin Corbyn' back in 2017, again, no fuss over that from all us woketards.
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And yet now we have the Daily Mail and a load of right-wingers losing their absolute shit over a relatively innocuous Tweet by a sports personality, the same Daily Mail that bangs on about cancel culture and how you can't say anything nowadays without the WOKE MOB trying to shut you down.
It's a crystal clear case of blatant double standards, Lineker was targeted because of what he said, and about whom.
For the record I don't think it was a particularly useful thing to Tweet, going near '1930s Germany' in this kind of debate never tends to end well, even though what he was saying was essentially factually accurate. For my money he'd have been better off talking about the language of 1930s England, when the Daily Mail (who else....) was saying 'Hurrah for the Blackshirts'.
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Are these the same Britons that many remainers were branding as 'thick' and/or racist when they voted for Brexit?Yeah they're just opinion polls, but it's always interesting to see how these things split out.
It's not exactly emphatic when it comes to Tory voters either, which literally just limps over the 50% line when it comes to 'it was wrong to suspend Gary Lineker'.
(I'd absolutely love to see the age demographic of that 51%, I'd bet anyone a million pounds it's predominantly old people.)
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Are these the same Britons that many remainers were branding as 'thick' and/or racist when they voted for Brexit?
Suddenly become more insightful on current affairs in your book now have they?
You'd expect Labour supporters to at least have a rudimentary grasp of how employment contracts work, considering they traditionally have been the ones that fought for them...
No, but he seems to have a point, as viewing figures were UP 20%:
(From BBC News) "Viewing figures were up by almost half a million to 2.58m."
People don't watch MoTD to see Captain Smarm, Shearer, Wright, Micah Michelin-Mann, Scott or whatever selection of clowns they overpay for their hour's work, but the FOOTBALL!
Andrew Neil not right wing? Come on mack, let's at least stay connected to the plane of reality! There's a whole lifetime of his work to point at! Yes he's now got a show on Channel 4 but how does that mean he can't be right wing? Michael Portillo did a whole series of shows for the BBC, you know, the massive Thatcher supporter who served in her cabinet. Is he not right wing either because he worked for the 'woke' BBC?
To be clear, I think Andrew Neil is an astute journalist and an excellent interrogator of politicians, and it seemed to me he never let his personal politics clash with his job at the BBC, but to claim he isn't and/or can't be right wing is pure nonsense.
I know it would be convenient to have Andrew Neil not be vocally right wing because it would neuter the massive hypocrisy at play with the Lineker situation, but he is a right winger - that's just an observable fact that can easily be evidenced.

Description says it all, John Barnes is brilliant here.
I'm increasingly convinced the government really, really picked the wrong side on this one.
'Don't pick fights with people who are far more popular than you are' - a lesson the Tory government might do well to learn.
You do not have to be Albert Einstein to have realised that the number of people viewing MOTD on Saturday night was going to be significantly up as a result. What with no commentary, presenters, pundits or interviews, people were going to be intrigued as to what it would be like. We even caught up with it last night on iPlayer. LOLNo, but he seems to have a point, as viewing figures were UP 20%:
(From BBC News) "Viewing figures were up by almost half a million to 2.58m."
People don't watch MoTD to see Captain Smarm, Shearer, Wright, Micah Michelin-Mann, Scott or whatever selection of clowns they overpay for their hour's work, but the FOOTBALL!
