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[Max says: this thread was split off from Inetbet closes my account - You be the judge since is seemed to be a major topic in itself and a major derail from the original topic.]
This may sound harsh but it is not meant personal. It is meant as constructive criticism and to allow you to view this as the members here may. It must be obvious to many but:
The whole system set up here is broken in my opinion. You say that you should ask "how can I prove that I am not a fraud...etc?" Well then what? The casino will not respond. They have already gotten the "thumbs up" to steal the money from you based on your "findings" and I use that term loosely.
So, what you do here, in essence, is get a PaB and look into it. Sometimes this may take months and months. In the interim there is a sort of "gag order" that this cannot be discussed in public. Then when you finally decide what you think you write back a terse email stating that you think that the casino is ok with taking the money and in so you will now close that players forum account so that there can be NO rebuttal in public. However, what you WILL do is forward one last message from you to them. The issue is that they have likely bloody well been ignoring the player for months and they see that you will not berate them for the thievery in public, so why in the hell would they respond to a last plea for help from the player?
It is not a help when you do this. You silence the critics is what you do and the word doesnt get out. I am glad that I have seen gambling grumbles here. I will try and use them in the future. At least that person is interested enough to get both sides of the story.
You ask us to believe you without question. However, as in these public cases of chuchu and alicek, you are taking the side of the casino when they openly have lied about thier position. You have them falsifying things out in the open where we can all see it then you ask us to trust them and their decision to not pay someone or lock their account?
In AliceK's situation for example, they claim there was a bonus yet GG states there was no bonus used in her last several LARGE deposits. This person obviously sent in documents also based on the story. it is too far of a reach for us to think that the player is evil and bad and cheating and deserves to be stolen from when they were not doing anything remotely profitable other than gambling with their own funds. so you can say that you can divulge ZERO information. The information that GG gave was a slamdunk case against the casino. Especially when they lied to the writer about many things.
My point in this ramble is that the way you conduct the PaB is good for the casino. It keeps the complaint out of the public view and basically silences them. You offer no real retort nor do you ask for much in the way of proof from the player. You get most of your info from the casino side.
All of that is broken and I tend to believe gambling grumbles over this site based on those things. Especiallly the transparency issue.
This may sound harsh but it is not meant personal. It is meant as constructive criticism and to allow you to view this as the members here may. It must be obvious to many but:
The whole system set up here is broken in my opinion. You say that you should ask "how can I prove that I am not a fraud...etc?" Well then what? The casino will not respond. They have already gotten the "thumbs up" to steal the money from you based on your "findings" and I use that term loosely.
So, what you do here, in essence, is get a PaB and look into it. Sometimes this may take months and months. In the interim there is a sort of "gag order" that this cannot be discussed in public. Then when you finally decide what you think you write back a terse email stating that you think that the casino is ok with taking the money and in so you will now close that players forum account so that there can be NO rebuttal in public. However, what you WILL do is forward one last message from you to them. The issue is that they have likely bloody well been ignoring the player for months and they see that you will not berate them for the thievery in public, so why in the hell would they respond to a last plea for help from the player?
It is not a help when you do this. You silence the critics is what you do and the word doesnt get out. I am glad that I have seen gambling grumbles here. I will try and use them in the future. At least that person is interested enough to get both sides of the story.
You ask us to believe you without question. However, as in these public cases of chuchu and alicek, you are taking the side of the casino when they openly have lied about thier position. You have them falsifying things out in the open where we can all see it then you ask us to trust them and their decision to not pay someone or lock their account?
In AliceK's situation for example, they claim there was a bonus yet GG states there was no bonus used in her last several LARGE deposits. This person obviously sent in documents also based on the story. it is too far of a reach for us to think that the player is evil and bad and cheating and deserves to be stolen from when they were not doing anything remotely profitable other than gambling with their own funds. so you can say that you can divulge ZERO information. The information that GG gave was a slamdunk case against the casino. Especially when they lied to the writer about many things.
My point in this ramble is that the way you conduct the PaB is good for the casino. It keeps the complaint out of the public view and basically silences them. You offer no real retort nor do you ask for much in the way of proof from the player. You get most of your info from the casino side.
All of that is broken and I tend to believe gambling grumbles over this site based on those things. Especiallly the transparency issue.
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