The last fake streamer thread ever needed.

[dunover]

Youtubers with well established and popular channels get some leeway in terms of keeping their channel open if they generate a lot of traffic/views as Bandits channel does. He is bound to in the millions of views for his youtube vids by now. There has likely been some complaints and he mentioned having the second part of THAT REEL KING VID we are all discussing being removed on his last video so maybe he has had a strike or two. They wont delete his channel completely because he would have been generating youtube some good view numbers and he has been there for quite a while too so that usually holds the account holder in good stead and gives them a fair chance to fight their case unless it is something totally unacceptable in terms of violating or breaching their fair use rules and regulations which results in an instant ban and channel closure.

Maybe, but trust me YT don't give a toss if you have 50k subscribers and millions of views, they'll still kill the channel stone dead if they consider it to violate any community guidelines. Even the giant channels are an infinitesimal part of their total turnover. What makes me laugh is those channels which have AdSense accounts like the Bandits, which earn you abut a Euro per 1000 views per month. A tiny amount compared to affiliate revenue. I used to make about a ton a month on the old channel, but don't bother now. I can see why non-affiliate channels do it as AdSense is their only source of income for their content, unless you are one of those ridiculous 'influencers'....

 

[mikeMega]

Maybe, but trust me YT don't give a toss if you have 50k subscribers and millions of views, they'll still kill the channel stone dead if they consider it to violate any community guidelines. Even the giant channels are an infinitesimal part of their total turnover. What makes me laugh is those channels which have AdSense accounts like the Bandits, which earn you abut a Euro per 1000 views per month. A tiny amount compared to affiliate revenue. I used to make about a ton a month on the old channel, but don't bother now. I can see why non-affiliate channels do it as AdSense is their only source of income for their content, unless you are one of those ridiculous 'influencers'....

yeah I think your right here Dunover, that makes the most sense. if bandit (or anyone) had violated the t and cs the channel would have been instantly removed which suggests that he has removed the vids himself rather than youtube doing it.

 

[dunover]

yeah I think your right here Dunover, that makes the most sense. if bandit (or anyone) had violated the t and cs the channel would have been instantly removed which suggests that he has removed the vids himself rather than youtube doing it.

I reckon he's simply checked them all 'private' or 'unlisted' so we cannot view them until he's gone through them. The thing is, transparency is a double-edged-sword as playing the games via a casino interface will count as unofficial advertising for that business, even with NO affiliate links. If you recall my comment regarding 'influencers' above they MUST state in their videos that they have either been furnished with a free product, are being sponsored by that business or otherwise being paid or promoting them. Now this fact would apply to casinos too, only casinos are NOT permitted in YT's list of approved commerce areas.
This is why I no longer have any casino links nor play my sessions with the casino in view, although sometimes I mention the name of where I am playing. I have already lost a channel once, so I'm keeping the new one squeaky-clean as I really don't want to lose another 800 videos, especially the review ones which form part of website content or CM threads, even though this time I've kept copies of all the ones that are important. Yeah, it means I get accusations of demo play (ironic as most of my videos ARE demo play reviews lol) but I'll put up with it in order to retain the channel's integrity. I reckon Twitch only gets a fraction of YT exposure hence streaming, as I said, is hanging by a fine thread on YT.

 

[mikeMega]

I reckon he's simply checked them all 'private' or 'unlisted' so we cannot view them until he's gone through them. The thing is, transparency is a double-edged-sword as playing the games via a casino interface will count as unofficial advertising for that business, even with NO affiliate links. If you recall my comment regarding 'influencers' above they MUST state in their videos that they have either been furnished with a free product, are being sponsored by that business or otherwise being paid or promoting them. Now this fact would apply to casinos too, only casinos are NOT permitted in YT's list of approved commerce areas.
This is why I no longer have any casino links nor play my sessions with the casino in view, although sometimes I mention the name of where I am playing. I have already lost a channel once, so I'm keeping the new one squeaky-clean as I really don't want to lose another 800 videos, especially the review ones which form part of website content or CM threads, even though this time I've kept copies of all the ones that are important. Yeah, it means I get accusations of demo play (ironic as most of my videos ARE demo play reviews lol) but I'll put up with it in order to retain the channel's integrity. I reckon Twitch only gets a fraction of YT exposure hence streaming, as I said, is hanging by a fine thread on YT.

Thats weird now you say that about casino advertising on YT as Bandits videos usually start with "today Im over at videoslots" or bet victor or whatever one hes on for that session. Would that be a breach in itself? I never knew casinos where not accepted/allowed within those commerce area rules. I feel for you mate losing out on a tonne of review videos. I personally find review vids quite helpful and a cheaper way to learn about a brand new slot than going into a session on it blind. Those vids also help players get a good feel for the gameplay and graphics and give good info on rtps, bonus frequency and what the features actually do. I find them valuable, Im sure many others do to.

 

[dunover]

Thats weird now you say that about casino advertising on YT as Bandits videos usually start with "today Im over at videoslots" or bet victor or whatever one hes on for that session. Would that be a breach in itself? I never knew casinos where not accepted/allowed within those commerce area rules. I feel for you mate losing out on a tonne of review videos. I personally find review vids quite helpful and a cheaper way to learn about a brand new slot than going into a session on it blind. Those vids also help players get a good feel for the gameplay and graphics and give good info on rtps, bonus frequency and what the features actually do. I find them valuable, Im sure many others do to.

Yes, as casinos aren't supposed to be promoted, but the definition of 'promotion' is a grey area. It comes down to viewer reports - if they decide to report a channel and it's using a casino background then YT can kill it. Whichever way we look at it, YT is being directly or indirectly to recruit players and earn commission for the streamers, so they're Ok until YT become aware of it.

 

[Valhalla]

They wont delete his channel completely because he would have been generating youtube some good view numbers and he has been there for quite a while too so that usually holds the account holder in good stead

Even tho @dunover has already said, I will reiterate that YouTube don't give a shit how many subs and views a channel has, they've deleted plenty of channels much more popular than Bandit's in the past. If they don't like what you are posting they will simply 'remove yo ass'...

 

[mikeMega]

Even tho @dunover has already said, I will reiterate that YouTube don't give a shit how many subs and views a channel has, they've deleted plenty of channels much more popular than Bandit's in the past. If they don't like what you are posting they will simply 'remove yo ass'...

Yeah the would have to have a zero tolerance for anything violating their rules, it is the biggest viewing platform on the interwebs

 

[Bloatgoat]

Thats weird now you say that about casino advertising on YT as Bandits videos usually start with "today Im over at videoslots" or bet victor or whatever one hes on for that session. Would that be a breach in itself? I never knew casinos where not accepted/allowed within those commerce area rules. I feel for you mate losing out on a tonne of review videos. I personally find review vids quite helpful and a cheaper way to learn about a brand new slot than going into a session on it blind. Those vids also help players get a good feel for the gameplay and graphics and give good info on rtps, bonus frequency and what the features actually do. I find them valuable, Im sure many others do to.

Most casino's have a 'demo play' button. But yeah, if i'd stream myself winning big and say LOOK PEOPLE THIS WIN WAS MADE POSSIBLE BY CASINO Y - PLEASE SIGNUP NOW YOU CAN WIN TOO!!!!!111 then that's against the rules. I've stopped watching streams, completely. Bin hitting spam button for a half hour and my complete youtube is clean from gambling related vids. The only existence of any stream is to hook players using a affiliate link, i.e 10 free spins no deposit bullshit. We all KNOW it's a way to get the player aboard.

 

[mikeMega]

Most casino's have a 'demo play' button. But yeah, if i'd stream myself winning big and say LOOK PEOPLE THIS WIN WAS MADE POSSIBLE BY CASINO Y - PLEASE SIGNUP NOW YOU CAN WIN TOO!!!!!111 then that's against the rules. I've stopped watching streams, completely. Bin hitting spam button for a half hour and my complete youtube is clean from gambling related vids. The only existence of any stream is to hook players using a affiliate link, i.e 10 free spins no deposit bullshit. We all KNOW it's a way to get the player aboard.

Tell it like it is Bloatgoat! Im over slots streams too. I still watch a little bit from time to time but it is not the same as it used to be. There where a few streamers I used to watch regularly but I have lost interest now because it is impossible to tell the genuine from the fake. I do think there are some genuine streamers but the majority are scammers. If I had lost I used to watch a streamer as a way to not deposit again and it worked for me.

I have been guilty of making to many deposits in a row in the past when I was less experienced but believe me, Ive seen it all now! my stakes are always low and will always be low except for a rare occasion that I might have got lucky and built a big bonus balance up and then I will raise for a 100 spins and see how it goes. I am the type of player that could have £500.00 in my balance and still stick to 40p-80p bets to respect the money and get my entertainment value from it and then a cashout.

When I see these fake streamers who deposit £500-£1k multiple times in a stream and play £5.00 bets regardless if it is their first bullet or 10th, alarm bells go off. Anyone who has played slots for real cash for long enough will know that £5 bets are going to break your bank in no time so when I see these clowns constantly winning OR losing on those stakes I call BS. If they are winning the whole time thats is not realistic and if they are losing all the time then how do they sustain it? My trust is gone for the streamers now and they wont be getting it back.

 

[Jono777]

When I see these fake streamers who deposit £500-£1k multiple times in a stream and play £5.00 bets regardless if it is their first bullet or 10th, alarm bells go off.

Surely the UKGC, if they have not already set he wheels in motion, should gobble up these sort of people, they talk about RG and being red hot over anything associated with RG but allow this sort of obvious nonsense to continue.

 

[Bloatgoat]

Tell it like it is Bloatgoat! Im over slots streams too. I still watch a little bit from time to time but it is not the same as it used to be. There where a few streamers I used to watch regularly but I have lost interest now because it is impossible to tell the genuine from the fake. I do think there are some genuine streamers but the majority are scammers. If I had lost I used to watch a streamer as a way to not deposit again and it worked for me.

I have been guilty of making to many deposits in a row in the past when I was less experienced but believe me, Ive seen it all now! my stakes are always low and will always be low except for a rare occasion that I might have got lucky and built a big bonus balance up and then I will raise for a 100 spins and see how it goes. I am the type of player that could have £500.00 in my balance and still stick to 40p-80p bets to respect the money and get my entertainment value from it and then a cashout.

When I see these fake streamers who deposit £500-£1k multiple times in a stream and play £5.00 bets regardless if it is their first bullet or 10th, alarm bells go off. Anyone who has played slots for real cash for long enough will know that £5 bets are going to break your bank in no time so when I see these clowns constantly winning OR losing on those stakes I call BS. If they are winning the whole time thats is not realistic and if they are losing all the time then how do they sustain it? My trust is gone for the streamers now and they wont be getting it back.

Well lets say if i won 15k yesterday, i could afford spending 5k on avg if i'm a big player easily. but yeah your right; its completely irresponsible to spread the message that gambling could be a way of funding your 'shit'.

You just have to be lucky, to hit a full screen on 5 a spin. But this luck is so small that yes, it will deplete your bankroll very fast (i.e 20 spins = 100, 40 spins = 200, 50 spins is 250 etc).

On avg you need to cycle it 150 times before anything could happen. If your lucky it hits before.

I've never bin in a landbased and sat down behind a machine, ok here goes 150 spins before it does or does not take off. It usually takes 20 spins on avg to know wether it's going to hit or not.

That's just the reality of online slots.

 

[dionysus]

well, one player can tell if a slot will hit within a handful of spins online and another at the brick and mortars.
watch Amazon for their book releases this summer and we should all be rolling in it by christmas

 

[BosjeR]

Am I the only one that throws up a little in the mouth when streamers say 'bullet' when they refer to deposits?

 

[Bloatgoat]

If your sense of intuitive is strong enough, yes you could kind of predict when your machine is going to hit or not. But not everybody has that same strong intuitive some have in a casino.

You just gotta be patient, and know when it's time to leave. That is all to it with casino's and making money. No need to buy books for that same knowledge.

 

[Valhalla]

well, one player can tell if a slot will hit within a handful of spins online and another at the brick and mortars.
watch Amazon for their book releases this summer and we should all be rolling in it by christmas

I'm not joking, but... sometimes when I'm playing BdBA I just know it's gonna hit big. The sheer number of times I've landed 5 gems with wild after repeatedly saying that I know it's coming. Happened at PokerStars again a couple of weeks ago; sitting with my brother and laughing "This is it Steve! This is the big one coming!" and a few spins later... BOOM.
Yeah it could be entirely coincidental, but it happens so often. The game just "feels" different; keeps dropping 3oak and 4oak with wild, loads of bars etc... then the jackpot.

 

[Halvor]

If your sense of intuitive is strong enough, yes you could kind of predict when your machine is going to hit or not. But not everybody has that same strong intuitive some have in a casino.

You just gotta be patient, and know when it's time to leave. That is all to it with casino's and making money. No need to buy books for that same knowledge.

Not trying to offend you in any way, but the misconception that you are somehow able to predict when you will win based on patterns, intuition or whatever you want to call it. Is way more dangerous than watching others gamble at high stake levels.

surely if this was possible, everyone in the industry would be swimming in money.

 

[Spikie]

Just watched the latest casinodaddy win on book of ra on YouTube , looking down the comments and saw this comment from them .(screenshot attached)

They say to livestream they use all their own money .

So Is this stretching the truth ? Does the casino say to the streamer that it is all their cash , so people can say it is all real ?

 

[Playford7]

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Just watched the latest casinodaddy win on book of ra on YouTube , looking down the comments and saw this comment from them .(screenshot attached)

They say to livestream they use all their own money .

So Is this stretching the truth ? Does the casino say to the streamer that it is all their cash , so people can say it is all real ?

It’s not there own money lol.
And to watch such lunatics will only rot your mind.
Eventually the powers that be will ban certain parasites, and it’ll be biblical.
Until then I’ll have to hold my tongue, don’t want yet another ban over this bunch of wasters

 

[Gaz237]

Will be their own money, along with very favourable deposit bonuses

 

[Playford7]

Will be their own money, along with very favourable deposit bonuses

It’s not. It’s losses from sign ups.
Hardly worked there arses off to earn it and contribute to society.
Also perks from casinos, it’s a grubby grubby business.
Sooner it’s stopped the better.

 

[Gaz237]

It’s not. It’s losses from sign ups.
Hardly worked there arses off to earn it and contribute to society.
Also perks from casinos, it’s a grubby grubby business.
Sooner it’s stopped the better.

But they have created the earnings from the sign ups. So it is their money.

Just because they are not breaking into a sweat or contributing to society, makes no odds.

The whole world of gambling could be tarred with the grubby brush.

You do come across as quite jealous.

 

[Playford7]

But they have created the earnings from the sign ups. So it is their money.

Just because they are not breaking into a sweat or contributing to society, makes no odds.

The whole world of gambling could be tarred with the grubby brush.

You do come across as quite jealous.

And to most people you come across as a cunt.
I’ll not hold that against you however, as im sure you are a fine fellow in real life.
And I’m sorry the means and methods used by the parasite to hook in a fool are abhorrent. I’ve had emails from affy managers from some very large parasites about the practices they use, hence my outrage and negative discourse about them.
It wasn’t bore out of jealousy believe me, the appearance of the majority of streamers alone bears similarities to fat and boring call centre workers on minimum wage.
Again ‘gaz’ the hyper troll gets involved and it turns from debate to nasty.
We do have a pattern here, are you bored and out of work?..
Your wife left for a more entertaining man?..
Something must be driving your hate gaz...
Here to help should you need it pal.

 

[Gaz237]

And to most people you come across as a cunt.
I’ll not hold that against you however, as im sure you are a fine fellow in real life.
And I’m sorry the means and methods used by the parasite to hook in a fool are abhorrent. I’ve had emails from affy managers from some very large parasites about the practices they use, hence my outrage and negative discourse about them.
It wasn’t bore out of jealousy believe me, the appearance of the majority of streamers alone bears similarities to fat and boring call centre workers on minimum wage.
Again ‘gaz’ the hyper troll gets involved and it turns from debate to nasty.
We do have a pattern here, are you bored and out of work?..
Your wife left for a more entertaining man?..
Something must be driving your hate gaz...
Here to help should you need it pal.

I don't have any hate?.

All I have said is that the money he earns from casino sign ups/deposits is his money.

And I only said about you coming across as jealous, was because you seem to have so much hatred and bitterness towards someone , who is making a decent living out of playing slots.

Edit to add--- Was it not you that said immigrants only input to the community is kebabs and taxis. Now you say call centre workers are fat and boring. You do seem to have a low opinion of a lot of people.

Not sure how you can accuse me of being a troll. Havent you just finished a 7 day ban for flaming only a matter of hours ago?.

Then you go and call me a C^%$. Classy.

 

[maxd]

And to most people you come across as a cunt....

You post crap like that and it's obvious that you don't much value being a member of this forum. Banned until further notice.

 

[nutnut]

You post crap like that and it's obvious that you don't much value being a member of this forum. Banned until further notice.

not denying using that word is wrong on a forum. but given Gaz has a history of popping up to trigger people off then at what point does it not become obvious he is here to bait people.

or simply remove everyone else until Gaz only had the mods to bait?

Gaz doesn't give his opinion on the topic, he gives his opinion on the person posting that's why people start using words they shouldn't.

 

[Jono777]

Agreed ^^ Playford is a decent chap FWIW.

He simply, on this occasion fell into a trap.

Nothing personal against Gaz but his posting style does seem deliberately designed to infuriate and invoke reactions and always has done.

Appreciate it if you could maybe rethink this one Max please?

 

[Borgie]

Agreed ^^ Playford is a decent chap FWIW.

He simply, on this occasion fell into a trap.

Nothing personal against Gaz but his posting style does seem deliberately designed to infuriate and invoke reactions and always has done.

Appreciate it if you could maybe rethink this one Max please?

I agree in as much that baiting definitely went on and goes on - however this has to be risen above - Playford could put him on block - just respond without the use of profanities - don't make it personal . Be the bigger man and the last laugh will be his .

 

[mack341]

There are a few wind up merchants on the forum that should be told off, making indirect and sly insults to disparage other members, a form of baiting, knowing that it is then hard for the other person to respond without looking like they're over reacting.

I don't agree with using the c word though, it's a pity it can't be a blocked word through some technical wizardry on the new forum, causes too many bans and upset all round.

 

[maxd]

Appreciate it if you could maybe rethink this one Max please?

I've flagged Bryan on the ban, now it's his call.

 

[Jono777]

I've flagged Bryan on the ban, now it's his call.

Thank you.

Not for one second agreeing with forum rules being broken, just that there is a bigger picture here, Borgie raises a valid point also just feel that Gaz has gotten away with pouring fuel on fires for too long also.

Appreciate your time!

 

[Gaz237]

Thank you.

Not for one second agreeing with forum rules being broken, just that there is a bigger picture here, Borgie raises a valid point also just feel that Gaz has gotten away with pouring fuel on fires for too long also.

Appreciate your time!

Jeez. That seems a tad harsh.

I was not involved with the convoy on his previous ban and from memory have only had one convoy ever, where a general warning was issued.

And my comments to him above were certainly not baiting, nor deserved his reply.

 

[Jono777]

Jeez. That seems a tad harsh.

I was not involved with the convoy on his previous ban and from memory have only had one convoy ever, where a general warning was issued.

And my comments to him above were certainly not baiting, nor deserved his reply.

C'mon mate, lets be honest here please.

Was talking generally not any particular topic/thread/instance. I've been an extremely active member here for a long time now and as I said before nothing personal but you have been party to more than your fair share of heated disagreements over this time.

Maybe you're just more outspoken than most but as you agreed with me in the past whether intentional or otherwise, the majority of your comments do come across as aggressive or antagonistic.

Again, nowt personal, I do try the impossible to get along with everyone but will leave this as my final post on this particular matter

 

[mcgameboy]

I'm gonna get some heat from the clique for saying what I am about to say here, but hey ho.

I'm sorry to say this but Playford messed up here....again.
And I also think that on this occasion, Gaz is getting some rather undeserved heat.

Playford just finished a 7 day ban, one that could have easily been avoided, as he really did not NEED to get so personal towards Chipmonkz.
But he chose to get personal. That's on him.
And that ban wasn't issued by Max, it was issued by Bryan, who is considerably more lenient than Max when it comes to issuing bans.
That alone should have made it clear to Playford that he overstepped the mark.

So fast forward one week with the ban now served. After returning to this very thread and declaring that "he would have to hold his tongue because he doesn't want another ban over this bunch of wasters", he then just HALF A BLOODY HOUR later decides to call Gaz a See You Next Tuesday.

I mean really? Oh I geddit.....because it was Gaz he was calling a C, then that makes it OK. Because Gaz ain't much liked round here.
I actually find it pretty hilarious that Playford chose to call Gaz a hater, because out of the two of them, I find Playford to be the considerably more aggressive
and confrontational poster. Can someone tell me what the justification was for Playford's "wife left you for a more entertaining man?" comment? Anyone?
Yeah, I thought as much.

How many times does Gaz use foul language? Virtually never.
How many times does Playford use foul language? A lot more than Gaz, that is for sure.
But hey...Gaz is the one with the hate problem. Honest to God, the blinkered bias around here is truly unbelieveable.

If Playford can get so triggered by Gaz saying "you come across as quite jealous" that he talks himself right into the receiving end of another ban hammer mere hours after he finished his last ban, then I think it says a LOT more about Playford than it does about Gaz.

And I'm sorry Jono, but your suggestion that Gaz laid a trap for Playford to fall into is absolutely laughable.

Anyway it seems I have only one conclusion to come to.
Depending on who you are, you can say whatever the f%&$ you want and are thought of as a spiffing wonderful old chap.
But if you're an "outsider" like Gaz and you do the exact same thing, then you are a trolling c...

Yeah, sounds really fair and wonderful. No wonder I am spending less time around here.

 

[shadow123]

Sorry I dont know any of the guys in this stupid playground fight but as far as I am concerned anyone calling another a C**T
and making derogetory comments about anothers wife is way beyond out of order and I would have no hesitation in banning
them. There are plenty of places on the web where this is deemed ok but not here as far as i am concerned.Others may
think differently but I was pretty shocked to read it last night

 

[Jono777]

Ok, Ok, I will wind my neck in, apologies all round, next beers are on me

 

[pinnit2014]

I must be one of the few who doesn’t mind Gaz (certainly no more trolling than some in here)

As for Playford: when he’s back everyone should avoid the word affiliate as that seems to be his detonator.

Now; off to drink one of these freebies that Jono has so generously offered.

 

[goatwack]

Not much to add, other than my wife hasn't left me for a more entertaining man

*yet

 

[mcgameboy]

Not much to add, other than my wife hasn't left me for a more entertaining man

*yet

Well there's a good reason for that mate. It's because you've mastered the art of punnilingus*.

* Not sure if I spelt that word correctly.

 

[Jono777]

Help yourselves, Enjoy!

 

[dunover]

Not much to add, other than my wife hasn't left me for a more entertaining man

*yet

You sure about that?

 

[paul7388]

Help yourselves, Enjoy!

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I don't like Belgian beer was that the best you could offer

 

[goatwack]

You sure about that?

The milkman was acting a bit shifty come to think of it

And we don't even have a milkman

 

[Jono777]

I don't like Belgian beer was that the best you could offer

Been as I think a lot of you matey, here you go...

 

[paul7388]

Been as I think a lot of you matey, here you go...

View attachment 109088

FFS Tea. Even tho i have not had a beer since last July and probably won't till i go away for a few days this July i would rather have your cheap Belgian beer than tea

 

[mcgameboy]

I don't like Belgian beer was that the best you could offer

It could have been worse. At first glance, I saw the white can and thought it was Carling.
Which is about as reprehensible as a bottle of Heineken 0.0.

 

[dunover]

Just FYI chaps it's not a case of any mod being 'harsher' than another, but as Max is on hand most of the time and Bryan isn't always, the numbers tend to favour his interventions. Rest assured, in the case of a long-timer as in Playford, nobody arbitrarily and permanently bans them single handedly. As Max stated, any moderator would pass a decision like that to the top so to speak. I appreciate the schism between gamblers and those earning from the industry is significant as we have seen here, but there's no way any reasonable moderator or forum owner can permit the type of attacks we saw in those two instances. And yes, I liked the guy. It's a shame.

 

[ternur]

I'm gonna get some heat from the clique for saying what I am about to say here, but hey ho.

I'm sorry to say this but Playford messed up here....again.
And I also think that on this occasion, Gaz is getting some rather undeserved heat.

Playford just finished a 7 day ban, one that could have easily been avoided, as he really did not NEED to get so personal towards Chipmonkz.
But he chose to get personal. That's on him.
And that ban wasn't issued by Max, it was issued by Bryan, who is considerably more lenient than Max when it comes to issuing bans.
That alone should have made it clear to Playford that he overstepped the mark.

So fast forward one week with the ban now served. After returning to this very thread and declaring that "he would have to hold his tongue because he doesn't want another ban over this bunch of wasters", he then just HALF A BLOODY HOUR later decides to call Gaz a See You Next Tuesday.

I mean really? Oh I geddit.....because it was Gaz he was calling a C, then that makes it OK. Because Gaz ain't much liked round here.
I actually find it pretty hilarious that Playford chose to call Gaz a hater, because out of the two of them, I find Playford to be the considerably more aggressive
and confrontational poster. Can someone tell me what the justification was for Playford's "wife left you for a more entertaining man?" comment? Anyone?
Yeah, I thought as much.

How many times does Gaz use foul language? Virtually never.
How many times does Playford use foul language? A lot more than Gaz, that is for sure.
But hey...Gaz is the one with the hate problem. Honest to God, the blinkered bias around here is truly unbelieveable.

If Playford can get so triggered by Gaz saying "you come across as quite jealous" that he talks himself right into the receiving end of another ban hammer mere hours after he finished his last ban, then I think it says a LOT more about Playford than it does about Gaz.

And I'm sorry Jono, but your suggestion that Gaz laid a trap for Playford to fall into is absolutely laughable.

Anyway it seems I have only one conclusion to come to.
Depending on who you are, you can say whatever the f%&$ you want and are thought of as a spiffing wonderful old chap.
But if you're an "outsider" like Gaz and you do the exact same thing, then you are a trolling c...

Yeah, sounds really fair and wonderful. No wonder I am spending less time around here.

It's always a bit sad to see any member banned. But in this case, I think it might be deserved. @Gaz237 pointed out some key points about playford, especially this observation: "You do seem to have a low opinion of a lot of people." I agree with that one.

I don't know playford, he might be a nice guy, but his views on some of the threads are pretty toxic, even outright disgusting at times. I know it's not fair to single out playford like this when he's banned and is not able to reply, and I hope if he is allowed to come back, he'll give us his view on this.

But in general, do we really need members in the forum who constantly antagonise other members (or group of people with different views) with unnecessary disrespectfulness? It really takes a toll on the overall pleasantness of the forum.

 

[The Dude]

Some poignant comments here - and I hope most of you recognize and appreciate the complexity of being the admin of an active forum.

The bottom line is that we want all members to feel comfortable about being a part of this community - therefore we have rules, and like any social community we hope that our members respect them. I prefer the "honor" system, where I don't need to remind others on how to behave, and in most cases this works.
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But I get it, we are all human sometimes we say stuff we didn't mean to say - sometimes we say stuff and we wish we said more - sometimes he struggle with the language and what we say is misunderstood. Yeah - this happens all the time.

But inflammatory remarks like using the "c" word are just unnecessary. Once you use this sort of language, you have lost the argument. I should not have to go into detail on why this is not acceptable.

From the above mentioned like:

Repeated flaming: I get it - talking about being ripped off or gambling wrong, or going postal on Trumpeters or Brexit fans - one can say things that are insulting, belittling, or down right mean. This is usually met with a warning, an infraction given, and only in cases of extreme flaming (calling women the dreaded "c" word) or anything racist, or homophobic, those folks will usually get kicked to the curb. This is usually a three strikes yer out sort of thing.

Playford falls into this category. It is a shame that he he could not either ignore what was bothering him, or just post something constructive. He is an adult, he knows the rules, and he should have chilled out.

Imagine being at the Meister Meeting in London and calling another member a cunt. You would have been asked to leave - no exceptions.

Just like the Meister Meeting, the forum is my party and I would expect everyone to maintain the same sort of conduct and decorum. Which brings me to this:

I have an open door policy here is well. You don't like the way things are going or what I'm doing, PM me. Those who know me know that I'm easygoing and I'm open to suggestions. And for those who find themselves suspended or banned, sometimes all it takes is an apology to get back in.

Gaz was the one disrespected - he is owed a sincere apology - as well as one for the community since no one here should be subjected to read those sort of posts. Playford knows how to get a hold of me if he wishes to, and I can put him in contact with Gaz. If Gaz is ok with this, then we can go from there. This seems to me the fair thing to do.

 

[Spikie]

Was reading The Bandit’s forum earlier , says he has been getting a lot of death threats over his streams .

And that he has a file ready for the police if needed .

What sort of imbeciles get so worked up over a stream ?

 

[irish-ranger]

Was reading The Bandit’s forum earlier , says he has been getting a lot of death threats over his streams .

And that he has a file ready for the police if needed .

What sort of imbeciles get so worked up over a stream ?

This streams right back to the door of the streamers sucking people in like £20 bets and doubling up to £36k there are people out there who get sucked in by this behaviour thinking they can do the same.

Before they know it they are in the shit financial what do they do?they take their frustrations out anyway they can and in their minds posting death threats to the Bandit or who ever is their release.

Which is not the way foward but let's be realistic that's all they are threats which won't come to anything and as for the bandit taking a file to the police that is prob not going to happen.

As I have said previously the time for the UKGC to target streamers is fast approaching and it's these sort of things which will just make it move that bit faster.