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Standard deviation of pontoon

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by thelawnet, Apr 9, 2005.

    Apr 9, 2005
  1. thelawnet

    thelawnet Dormant account

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    I am curious to know what the standard deviation of pontoon is, as I have just had an excessive winning session, up 200 in 1100 of betting with a flat 3 wager. This would be very unlikely with regular blackjack, and it seems that pontoon should logically have higher variance (given that there are 2-1 wins and a lot more doubles, so the larger average win must balance out more smaller losses).

    Anybody any ideas?
     
  2. Apr 10, 2005
  3. orangeindiana

    orangeindiana Dormant account

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    The Wizard of Odds lists a number of standard deviations for casino games here at You must register/login in order to see the link. . Unfortunately, Pontoon is not yet included, although he does have a page including odds for some online casinos and basic strategy. You may want to email him about it.
     
  4. Apr 10, 2005
  5. sirius

    sirius Senior Member

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    1.44 according to this page: You must register/login in order to see the link. (which is down at the moment but it is in google)
     
  6. Apr 11, 2005
  7. orangeindiana

    orangeindiana Dormant account

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    Where'd you find standard deviation on there? Am I missing something?
     
  8. Apr 11, 2005
  9. thelawnet

    thelawnet Dormant account

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    I did see that. The page isn't actually down, but has been updated to remove that information. Given that it's no longer there, I figured that that information is wrong. The old version of the page contained some incorrect information about crypto casinos not letting you double soft 21s, which has been removed in the current version (as it was incorrect). The standard deviation was removed; whether or not 1.44 is correct I do not know.
     
  10. Apr 11, 2005
  11. GrandMaster

    GrandMaster Ueber Meister CAG

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    This is useful information. It means that pontoon has a lower house edge than the normal Crypto blackjack game.
     
  12. Apr 11, 2005
  13. thelawnet

    thelawnet Dormant account

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    Indeed. The edge is very small - it's an excellent game to play with easy strategy. It does have higher variance - the fact that with a $10 stake you can very often get $50 back (but also lose $20) without splitting, means that you should lose more but the wins will be larger.

    In variance terms I believe a $2 bet on pontoon has almost exactly the same variance as a $3 bet on blackjack, for a given amount of wagering. It's also I think a little faster to play, so you might end up losing money at the same rate.

    The higher variance and lower edge makes hitting a target rather more likely than blackjack - so a big win is more likely, but so is going bust.
     
    Last edited: Apr 11, 2005

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