Wish I could help you but I closed all my Rival aka Bonne Chance accounts over a year ago after a year of putting up with their designed fraudlent schemes, memba???
Lets also at least be open minded to the fact that the RTG "Main Street Group" of casinos that have been accredited here for several years now as a rule of thumb almost never get their players paid in less than 14 days! This has been discussed here multiple times in many different threads here over the past. So why do we never hear about this as much as we do about Rival taking 5 days to pay?
I would just like to see a little more balance in some of these threads here, but if not, then that's cool too. Rival bash away!
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That's not exactly accurate Nifty, Box24 Casino is also a NON-WHITE LABEL Brand which has it's own in-house support and also it's own independent processor. Pay outs are made there within 48 hours. Lets at least give credence where credence is due.
Lets also at least be open minded to the fact that the RTG "Main Street Group" of casinos that have been accredited here for several years now as a rule of thumb almost never get their players paid in less than 14 days! This has been discussed here multiple times in many different threads here over the past. So why do we never hear about this as much as we do about Rival taking 5 days to pay?
I would just like to see a little more balance in some of these threads here, but if not, then that's cool too. Rival bash away!
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Just my opinion, but I think completely the opposite!
In gambling, horseshit, read your own god darn self promoting crap!.......your typical affiliate horseshit!!
well you havent seen many thread about Mainstreet group cause not a lot of ppl are playing there anylonger.
40x deposit+ bonus ...bonuses of 30/40% ..... and delays on cashins...of course you dont see many complains....nobody is using em
Just received this email from AGD regarding Rival:
Important! Rival Casinos, Progressive Deductions, Processor Confiscations and Affiliates
Progressive Deductions:
Many Rival Casinos have begun taking progressive deductions from affiliate accounts. This means that for each $1.00 wagered on a progressive jackpot, you (the affiliate) will owe a percentage back to Rival.
Example (Assumption 3% Progressive Fee, 30% revshare): Your player has deposited $100. While playing Major Moolah, a progressive slot, your player has wagered a total of $2,000 (includes both wins and losses).
Your 'Progressive Fee' would be: 3% of $2,000 = $60.
If this were your ONLY player, you would earn: 30% * $100 - $60 = $12. {12% Revshare}
This change WILL decrease your affiliate commissions if you have progressive players and can lower your revenue share by quite a bit if your largest players are progressive slots players.
This is a Retroactive Change to affiliate contracts and considered predatory.
Processor Confiscations:
The driver behind the processor confiscations is the recent Mastercard issue whereby player's deposits were no longer honored by Mastercard. Rival decided that affiliates should pay for those (and future) confiscations and have decided to penalize affiliate accounts. It appears that Rival wants to make affiliates liable for processor confiscations as they are calling them 'bad deposits' in the stats engine. With the 'lazy-stats', an affiliate is lost as to whether this 'bad deposit' was due to a chargeback, a Mastercard issue, or if the deduction is 100% of the lost deposit instead of the affiliate's share.
This is a Retroactive Change to affiliate contracts and considered predatory.
Man Rival is heading for a tough time in an industry that is also losing players
Just received this email from AGD regarding Rival:
Important! Rival Casinos, Progressive Deductions, Processor Confiscations and Affiliates
Progressive Deductions:
Many Rival Casinos have begun taking progressive deductions from affiliate accounts. This means that for each $1.00 wagered on a progressive jackpot, you (the affiliate) will owe a percentage back to Rival.
Example (Assumption 3% Progressive Fee, 30% revshare): Your player has deposited $100. While playing Major Moolah, a progressive slot, your player has wagered a total of $2,000 (includes both wins and losses).
Your 'Progressive Fee' would be: 3% of $2,000 = $60.
If this were your ONLY player, you would earn: 30% * $100 - $60 = $12. {12% Revshare}
This change WILL decrease your affiliate commissions if you have progressive players and can lower your revenue share by quite a bit if your largest players are progressive slots players.
This is a Retroactive Change to affiliate contracts and considered predatory.
Processor Confiscations:
The driver behind the processor confiscations is the recent Mastercard issue whereby player's deposits were no longer honored by Mastercard. Rival decided that affiliates should pay for those (and future) confiscations and have decided to penalize affiliate accounts. It appears that Rival wants to make affiliates liable for processor confiscations as they are calling them 'bad deposits' in the stats engine. With the 'lazy-stats', an affiliate is lost as to whether this 'bad deposit' was due to a chargeback, a Mastercard issue, or if the deduction is 100% of the lost deposit instead of the affiliate's share.
This is a Retroactive Change to affiliate contracts and considered predatory.
Man Rival is heading for a tough time in an industry that is also losing players
Just received this email from AGD regarding Rival:
Important! Rival Casinos, Progressive Deductions, Processor Confiscations and Affiliates
Progressive Deductions:
Many Rival Casinos have begun taking progressive deductions from affiliate accounts. This means that for each $1.00 wagered on a progressive jackpot, you (the affiliate) will owe a percentage back to Rival.
Example (Assumption 3% Progressive Fee, 30% revshare): Your player has deposited $100. While playing Major Moolah, a progressive slot, your player has wagered a total of $2,000 (includes both wins and losses).
Your 'Progressive Fee' would be: 3% of $2,000 = $60.
If this were your ONLY player, you would earn: 30% * $100 - $60 = $12. {12% Revshare}
This change WILL decrease your affiliate commissions if you have progressive players and can lower your revenue share by quite a bit if your largest players are progressive slots players.
This is a Retroactive Change to affiliate contracts and considered predatory.
Processor Confiscations:
The driver behind the processor confiscations is the recent Mastercard issue whereby player's deposits were no longer honored by Mastercard. Rival decided that affiliates should pay for those (and future) confiscations and have decided to penalize affiliate accounts. It appears that Rival wants to make affiliates liable for processor confiscations as they are calling them 'bad deposits' in the stats engine. With the 'lazy-stats', an affiliate is lost as to whether this 'bad deposit' was due to a chargeback, a Mastercard issue, or if the deduction is 100% of the lost deposit instead of the affiliate's share.
This is a Retroactive Change to affiliate contracts and considered predatory.
Man Rival is heading for a tough time in an industry that is also losing players
aka a pseudo-ponzi scheme. Maybe one day
I posted about this yesterday. It's been a hot issue now for a couple of weeks I think, maybe more. Quite the thread about it over at AGD.
And now they are going to charge affiliates as well for the Mastercard and/or Visa confiscations?
God, I hope this is the beginning of the end for them. And I hope that everyone who has money owing gets it okay...players AND affiliates.
The thread at AGD has a list of which Rivals are going to apply this new term, and which ones aren't. And also which ones will be sticking to the confiscation rule. It's really a MUST read for any affiliate who promotes Rival (and there are too many). I hate to say it, but I knew this day would come. They don't give a shit about the players (with a FEW exceptions, the non white label ones)..so why do affiliates think they would give a shit about them?
EDITED TO ADD: This last post got me thinking back to the Microgaming/white label thread from a couple of years ago, where I ranted and raved on for about 20 or 30 pages. It was EXACTLY this scenario that I had in mind, and why I am so dead set against a huge white label operation like this is. I was wrong in that I thought it would be the Playshare Group that would be front and centre. Of course at that time, none of us knew that Rival was nothing more than a white label setup. They were very secretive from day one about their company, the people who ran it, and what their business model was. I remember the initial thread on them, and Jetset asking specific questions re: the company itself...and getting no answers. All very cloak and dagger. That whole MG white label thread convinced me I needed a break from the forum and I remember being absolutely disgusted that MG had stooped to that level. One of the phrases thrown around in that thread was internet pollution....how apt. Because that is EXACTLY how I see the 25 or 30 Rival casinos...internet pollution, and totally unnecessary.
The same affiliate -((pictured all over the Net with the player watchdog/casino advocate----->conflict of interest , I guess I could say in my opinion but eff that, Solution=change the self-proclaimed advocate/watchdog label to mediator but maybe best for another thread))-that swore by these BC white labels and even labeled them "WONDERFUL" until they started phucking with her wallet ,nevermind they were phucking with players for at least the last two and a half years with the same or similiar type schemes.
) or self serving (imagine that at CM) The lengthy two year old TIV thread indicated serious reason for concern. Not pissed or mad as my post may indicate but this industry "as-is" just a'int right, lol!
