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Playing in a restricted US state. Possible to win?

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by brkdbank, Oct 10, 2008.

    Oct 10, 2008
  1. brkdbank

    brkdbank Dormant account

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    I have noticed a lot of casinos allow all US players regardless which state they reside to create an account and play. However all of these casinos have similar terms or conditions that state playing is not allowed in jurisdictions where prohibited.

    According to You must register/login in order to see the link. it shows Illinois "Express Internet Prohibition".


    I understand that yes I can deposit money to a lot of casinos accepting all states. My concern is when I want to cash out. For example, a jackpot is hit. Will the casino use the law against me to avoid paying, pointing out I live in a state where its prohibited to play online and therefore cannot send me any money?


    Anyone have successful play in a state where its "prohibited" or is it simply impossible without legal implications?
     
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  3. silcnlayc

    silcnlayc Just one more spin pleez! CAG MM PABnonaccred PABaccred

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    If you are from one of the states prohibited, I wouldn't chance playing at any casino that has this in the T&C's. They would have the right to seize the jackpot if you broke the T&C's. I would imagine they wouldn't mind taking your deposits and paying out small wins, but once it gets to the big bucks...all bets are off if you are from one of those states IMO. Casinos are there to make a profit and they will do what it takes to make it.

    They are unregulated and sometimes many of us forget this, so please be careful and choose where to play carefully. Even accredited casinos sometimes fall to the wayside....but many redeem themselves quickly even if they are unmonitored by a governing body of laws..
     
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  5. brkdbank

    brkdbank Dormant account

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    Thank you for your reply. This is frustrating. I remember a couple of years ago playing online was no problem.

    For example... I was about to deposit at INetBet until I read this:


    "# iNetBet.com is restricted to individuals of legal age of majority ("Players") who are residents of jurisdictions where the use of iNetBet and its games ("Games") is not prohibited by law. This may also include states with countries e.g Kentucky in the USA.
    # All iNetBet games are void where prohibited by law. Minors are strictly forbidden to play. "

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    ALL the casinos I have looked at have similar wording in the T&Cs. Some say something to the effect that its impossible to keep track of all laws of all countries and that its the players own responsibility...


    Anyone of any of the 11 "Prohibited" states find a place to play?
     
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  7. lots0

    lots0 Banned User - troll posts - flaming

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    I agree with silcnlayc, if you live in one of the 11 states that has a specific laws against online gambling, don't chance it... Your odds of getting paid on any big win are about zero.

    What you can do is fire off some emails and/or phone calls to the elected officials in your state, demanding they regulate online gaming instead of outlawing it.
     
  8. Oct 10, 2008
  9. tim5ny

    tim5ny Quit Gambling

    If you're in one of these states, they wont let you win anyway, so don't worry about it.
     
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  11. bc4u

    bc4u Account suspended - possible shill account

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    For sure...

    You should definitely make sure that the casino accepts all US States if yours is one of the restricted ones.

    Best of luck! :cool::cool:
     
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  13. Fleur-De-Lis

    Fleur-De-Lis Senior Member MM

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    Is it a figure of speech or you mean what I think you mean? :eek:
     
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  15. brkdbank

    brkdbank Dormant account

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    Thanks for all the replies.

    From what I have read playing in a restricted state you can't win anything. You can only loose or get your deposit amount back.

    The thing that's irritating is a lot of casino portal sites can be misleading... Lots use symbols or categories to identify casinos that allow "some" US residents and "all" US residents.

    For example just check out this site... List casinos accepting all states and the ones accepting only the non-restricted states:

    You must register/login in order to see the link.




    I had a few casinos in mind that supposedly accept all players from all states. Before I deposited any money I carefully read all the terms and conditions of the one casino I had in mind. Several things in the rules scared me away regarding where I live.

    I was fortunate enough to read all about my local laws but its easy to imagine all the people who see these "all accepting casinos" and don't hesitate to play.
     
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  17. bc4u

    bc4u Account suspended - possible shill account

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    Trust me

    Trust me... I have experience working for a reputable online casino and can for sure say that, as long as the casino accepts all US States (and therefore had a majority of US players), you WILL be paid!!

    In nearly 2 years experience, I NEVER saw even one US player being declined a withdrawal because s/he he was from the US!!

    Good luck winning!! ;):cool:
     
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  19. brkdbank

    brkdbank Dormant account

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    INetBet is one that is advertised to accept all US players regardless which state they live.

    Why then do they throw this in there R&R:

    "iNetBet.com is restricted to individuals of legal age of majority ("Players") who are residents of jurisdictions where the use of iNetBet and its games ("Games") is not prohibited by law. This may also include states with countries e.g Kentucky in the USA."
    :confused:
     
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  21. tim5ny

    tim5ny Quit Gambling

    It's not a figure of speech. It's just a bad attitude!:p
     
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  23. bc4u

    bc4u Account suspended - possible shill account

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    It's best

    It's best to ask the customer support directly and they'll tell you whether you can play or not.. In the terms and conditions they have to 'cover themselves' by saying "it is up to the player to check up on their local state laws" - But really, once you ask them, they'll say "we accept all US players, we can accept deposits and send withdrawals without a problem, but it's in our terms and conditions that the player check up on their local state laws"... Basically, yes!

    :thumbsup:
     
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  25. lots0

    lots0 Banned User - troll posts - flaming

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    I disagree.
    Most online casino customer support is clueless about anything other than how to deposit.

    Any casino management (especially online casino managers) looks for reasons NOT to pay out on big wins, I guarantee it. If they didn't they would not be doing their job.

    If a casino manager sees a big winner is from one of the restricted states, it is a legitimate reason NOT to pay off... so the casino just won't pay and they are well within their rights not to pay. Don't believe me, you can look around here at CM and see all the threads and PAB's about just this issue.

    BEWARE - of any casino that says it will take players from any state, no matter the laws... If the casino is so willing to ignore actual existing "Laws" by accepting players where it is illegal to do so, what makes you think they are going to follow their own T & C's and pay off?

    bc4u - as an affiliate with a new casino portal site to promote, you should understand that the best way to get players is to tell the truth to them. Trying to blow smoke up players asses is not going to get you far with the folks around here or players in general.
     
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  27. bc4u

    bc4u Account suspended - possible shill account

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    lots0 - I can say that with 100% honesty, the casino I worked for never once refused to pay a player because they were from one of the 'banned' States.

    I'd hope that the other casinos are following the same lead, of course, at least the accredited ones.. I know that the rogue ones are a total different story, and would never recommend to play at them ;-)
     
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  29. lots0

    lots0 Banned User - troll posts - flaming

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    None of the accredited casinos here at CM take cash players from restricted states.

    In order for a casino to be on the accredited list here.
    Source: http://www.casinomeister.com/casinos.php

    As for myself, I believe any casino that takes cash players from a restricted state is in fact a ROGUE and should be on every Blacklist.

    and if don't mind me asking what casino was this and when was this?
    Things have changed in online gaming in just that last few weeks, not to mention the last few years...
     
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  31. bc4u

    bc4u Account suspended - possible shill account

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    Well...

    All I can say that this casino is an accredited casino here, that has and still does accept ALL US players from it's inception and still does to this very day.

    It shows me that it's treating it's customers very well in that case.

    Over and out :)
     
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  33. lots0

    lots0 Banned User - troll posts - flaming

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    Bull Shit...

    If you don't want to publicly name the casino fine, PM me with the name.
     
  34. Oct 10, 2008
  35. bc4u

    bc4u Account suspended - possible shill account

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    I'm backing out of this one.. I have nothing to prove to you lots0.
     
  36. Oct 10, 2008
  37. lots0

    lots0 Banned User - troll posts - flaming

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    No you have nothing to prove to me about the statements you made...

    I am sure they are false.

    I just thought you might like a chance to show the folks here that you were not just another, no nothing, wanna be casino affiliate, that was more than willing to blow smoke up their asses in order to get them to sign up on some questionable white label casino thru your affiliate links on your cookie cutter affiliate website.
     
  38. Oct 10, 2008
  39. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    Geeze Lots0 - bad hair day? :p

    Let's try to be a bit more courteous to our fellow members - thanks.
     
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