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I don't really care. He has 7 months to do his worst. After that bye bye and hi jail (hopefully).
And the more you talk...the more you seem like a russian troll who's here just to provoke.

reading this 'pot calling the kettle black' came to mind :D :laugh:

I don't mind you calling me a russian troll, in fact it gives me a chuckle, but Col did not deserve that reply, and what's discussing the fed reserve and Trump got to do with russia ? :confused:
 
reading this 'pot calling the kettle black' came to mind :D :laugh:

I don't mind you calling me a russian troll, in fact it gives me a chuckle, but Col did not deserve that, and what's discussing the fed reserve and Trump got to do with russia ? :confused:

First it was his/her topic with the EU and its destruction or whatever. And how he/she answered to posts in that thread. Now this too...just noticing a pattern! I don't mind answering to questions or comments in general but the way he/she presents them...meh.
 
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The US also diverted shipments of masks 3M produced in China and were destined for Germany and France, already paid by the two countries.

That is all Mr T's doing and shows his real character.

Next time Mr T and Pompano ask NATO for help, they deserve and will hopefully get the middle finger. :rolleyes:
 
First it was his/her topic with the EU and its destruction or whatever. And how he/she answered to posts in that thread. Now this too...just noticing a pattern! I don't mind answering to questions or comments in general but the way he/she presents them...meh.

Noticing a pattern lol :laugh: are you working for the EU/deepstate thought police or summat? Bloody hell the amount of patterns I notice in the liberal left's posts :eek:

That was a good thread subject regarding the EU, many replied to it, IIRC Col said the countries would either decide to leave or for financial reasons have to now get closer together in the EU.

[A post I read on twitter described the euro single currency as a burning house without any doors or windows through which you can escape, and so it will be v. hard for italy, spain etc.. to leave now even if they wanted to.]

What makes a forum interesting is different views, threads like this will become very boring without debates and discussion.
 
This may get the anti Trump brigade hyperventilating.
It seems that he has taken over the Federal Reserve. He has threatened to take over the Fed Reserve for a while now and maybe he has done it? Merging it with the US central bank. Draining the swamp? Kennedy tried it and died while attempting to.
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I think it is superb. Let them dig their own grave.

If they go full in with the plan, it will ensure the ultimate fiscal downfall of the US and with that the end of the US Dollar as the world's reserve currency. And Mr T will be able to add another bankruptcy to his resume!!! :rolleyes:

After the Bretton-Woods agreement was terminated by the US, the countries decided to keep the US Dollar as the reserve currency, giving the Fed the power to print money indefinitely, something no other Central Bank can do. However, that was based on the independence of the FED from the Treasury in such that the Treasury cannot control the actions of the FED.

Bernanke did something similar during the 2008 crisis but it was limited and he phased it out quickly when they realized what the dangers are. This time the FED goes full in.

The current problem is that the FED had to use all arrows in its quiver right at the start of the pandemic. Reason being the $1.5 trillion tax cut, the interest rate cut last year and other goodies Mr T and his cronies distributed, virtually pillaging the Treasury. Instead of staying on a consolidation course in good economic times, Mr T went on a spending spree adding more than $3 trillion to the national debt and that during the "best economy ever". :rolleyes:

The entire economy of the last years has been inflated and with that the stock market. If you look at the fundamentals, stocks have been long overvalued to the point that it became ridiculous. It is akin the DOT.COM bubble at the turn of the century, just on steroids.
 
The US also diverted shipments of masks 3M produced in China and were destined for Germany and France, already paid by the two countries.

That is all Mr T's doing and shows his real character.

Next time Mr T and Pompano ask NATO for help, they deserve and will hopefully get the middle finger. :rolleyes:

Harry, slightly offtopic here but I just read you guys are going in lockdown come monday. What are the exact measures for you?
 
The key being "U.S.-based company 3M"

A lot of countries banned exports.

India Bans Hydroxychloroquine Exports as Demand Soars

The Finnish government has issued a three-week blockade of the ... it is banning the export of hydroxychloroquine and formulations made from

Last month the Hungarian government banned the commercial export of hydroxychloroquine sulfate, an ingredient used in drugs for

 
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Harry, slightly offtopic here but I just read you guys are going in lockdown come monday. What are the exact measures for you?

Yeah, we had a few smallish clusters (20-50 cases) where the contact tracing did not result in finding out the source. Hence, it became clear that it is community spread and with that you have to lock down.

It will be similar to other countries, all non-essentials are closed, school will be done online (my son had already 2x per month e-learning at home as standard) and going out to be reserved for essential stuff only.
 
The key being "U.S.-based company 3M"

A lot of countries banned exports.

India Bans Hydroxychloroquine Exports as Demand Soars

The Finnish government has issued a three-week blockade of the ... it is banning the export of hydroxychloroquine and formulations made from

Last month the Hungarian government banned the commercial export of hydroxychloroquine sulfate, an ingredient used in drugs for
but surely the product in questions falls under essentials of which we're still trading and trafficking back and forth
 
The key being "U.S.-based company 3M"

A lot of countries banned exports.

India Bans Hydroxychloroquine Exports as Demand Soars

The Finnish government has issued a three-week blockade of the ... it is banning the export of hydroxychloroquine and formulations made from

Last month the Hungarian government banned the commercial export of hydroxychloroquine sulfate, an ingredient used in drugs for

As usual, you forget to mention a few things. :rolleyes:

Hydroxychloroquine is produced in virtually every country, it is a generic drug substance.

Please check where the raw materials for the masks 3M is producing in the US are coming from?
 
Noticing a pattern lol :laugh: are you working for the EU/deepstate thought police or summat? Bloody hell the amount of patterns I notice in the liberal left's posts :eek:

That was a good thread subject regarding the EU, many replied to it, IIRC Col said the countries would either decide to leave or for financial reasons have to now get closer together in the EU.

[A post I read on twitter described the euro single currency as a burning house without any doors or windows through which you can escape, and so it will be v. hard for italy, spain etc.. to leave now even if they wanted to.]

What makes a forum interesting is different views, threads like this will become very boring without debates and discussion.

I love a good debate. And yeah there were good posts in that topic too....but the original post was so ridiculous imo and now more provoking from the same person in a different thread. I did google about what he posted and it lead me to this:
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...and there's something about Q and stuff...so yeah I decided to ignore what he said and wait for something more official if this is an actual thing or not.
 
I think it is superb. Let them dig their own grave.

If they go full in with the plan, it will ensure the ultimate fiscal downfall of the US and with that the end of the US Dollar as the world's reserve currency. And Mr T will be able to add another bankruptcy to his resume!!! :rolleyes:

After the Bretton-Woods agreement was terminated by the US, the countries decided to keep the US Dollar as the reserve currency, giving the Fed the power to print money indefinitely, something no other Central Bank can do. However, that was based on the independence of the FED from the Treasury in such that the Treasury cannot control the actions of the FED.

Bernanke did something similar during the 2008 crisis but it was limited and he phased it out quickly when they realized what the dangers are. This time the FED goes full in.

The current problem is that the FED had to use all arrows in its quiver right at the start of the pandemic. Reason being the $1.5 trillion tax cut, the interest rate cut last year and other goodies Mr T and his cronies distributed, virtually pillaging the Treasury. Instead of staying on a consolidation course in good economic times, Mr T went on a spending spree adding more than $3 trillion to the national debt and that during the "best economy ever". :rolleyes:

The entire economy of the last years has been inflated and with that the stock market. If you look at the fundamentals, stocks have been long overvalued to the point that it became ridiculous. It is akin the DOT.COM bubble at the turn of the century, just on steroids.

I haven't been keeping a check on the markets but somebody I spoke to thought that Trump's rescue package just spooked the market more, a day or two after the meaning/significance of it sank in; the fundamentals are wrong to me, all through my early life we had interest rates of 5%+ and it was a trouble keeping it there and not higher, now its 0.25-5% something doesn't add up, it can't be healthy. There's no incentive to save for one.
 
I think all advanced industrial nations should be able to produce masks with a decent filter, if the 3m design is very good it would be nice if they waived any patent temporarily and shared their manufacturing method, apparently the CDC is changing their advice re the wearing of masks and as the US has the 3rd highest population in the world, it doesn't seem unfair that they'd wish to prioritise their citizens/health workers first.
 
I think all advanced industrial nations should be able to produce masks with a decent filter, if the 3m design is very good it would be nice if they waived any patent temporarily and shared their manufacturing method, apparently the CDC is changing their advice re the wearing of masks and as the US has the 3rd highest population in the world, it doesn't seem unfair that they'd wish to prioritise their citizens/health workers first.
the problem of course, is exisitng globally instead of by village, we rely on others' aid
i mean, noone wants Canada who holds most of the world's freshwater, to turn around and say, wellllll, maybe we'd just better hold on to our water..our citizens first, yanno :P
 
He's not the Global president he's the US president. The job of the US president is to protect the American people. He's doing his job. Wern't you all complaining he wasn't doing his job for god knows how long.

Personally, I have no problem with countries putting their citizens first. Actually I expect it.
 
Granted, he's the US president...who reigns on a shared planet; his decisions have far reaching ramifications.
Sure, he can do what he wants for his people first; but it'll only end up in a tit for tat of Canada placing restrcitions on services the US needs
 
The key being "U.S.-based company 3M"

A lot of countries banned exports.

India Bans Hydroxychloroquine Exports as Demand Soars

The Finnish government has issued a three-week blockade of the ... it is banning the export of hydroxychloroquine and formulations made from

Last month the Hungarian government banned the commercial export of hydroxychloroquine sulfate, an ingredient used in drugs for





There's some Fox for you. I don't know which one is more dangerous for the public. Corona or Fox.
But gotta say that at least Tucker has taken this more seriously gladly.
 
Well it goes back to what did the authorities [in the uk, usa, canada etc..] do when they knew about the virus, that was the time to get mask production set up, and when you could see pictures of chinese people adapting a bra or baby's diaper as a diy mask.

I would go as far to say the UK have dismissed the usefulness of wearing a mask simply because they knew it wouldn't be easy for the Govt/shops to obtain the required amounts.
 
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The key being "U.S.-based company 3M"

A lot of countries banned exports.

India Bans Hydroxychloroquine Exports as Demand Soars

The Finnish government has issued a three-week blockade of the ... it is banning the export of hydroxychloroquine and formulations made from

Last month the Hungarian government banned the commercial export of hydroxychloroquine sulfate, an ingredient used in drugs for



I don't know why you even need masks or hydroxychloroquine or anything else for that matter, after all "it will go away like a miracle", just ask your Dear Leader. :rolleyes:
 
The key being "U.S.-based company 3M"

A lot of countries banned exports.

India Bans Hydroxychloroquine Exports as Demand Soars

The Finnish government has issued a three-week blockade of the ... it is banning the export of hydroxychloroquine and formulations made from

Last month the Hungarian government banned the commercial export of hydroxychloroquine sulfate, an ingredient used in drugs for



Here you go, dig your own grave together with your idol! :rolleyes:

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The stupidity is just mindboggling. And you follow him blindly. Bravo!!! :rolleyes:

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Harry my alert system tells me there is a quote from me in this post, but I can't see it :cool:

well Canada is all set up to make it's own masks if they make the source material :confused:
but that's like saying the US can make their own pulp mill, they have trees

many items are designed by sourcing certain elements from around the world; each country can't 'do all'

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the system is designed that we rely and depend on neighbours who produce or excel in certain areas, and others in other areas
 
Harry my alert system tells me there is a quote from me in this post, but I can't see it :cool:

well Canada is all set up to make it's own masks if they make the source material :confused:

My bad, sorry, started to write about the issue with the USD as the global reserve currency but decided to stop it.

It will all come out one day. I actually hope that Mr T gets reelected as it will only accelerate the demise of the US as the strangling world power that it is today and we might finally see fewer wars on this planet.
 
If Trump did nothing, you'd say he sold the American people out for 3M profit. If he fully enacted the defense production act when the Bidens and Pelosis' of this world wanted to, countries would have a lot less ppe.

As far as Canada goes, JT has no choice but to say that. 75% of CA exports are purchased by US, that's like 2/3 or 3/4 of the CA economy. US goes down so does CA. Maybe its something JT ought to consider as a national security issue, having that much of exports dependent on a single country.

NY is using the national guard to seize ventilators from states that don't need them right now. None of the states want to risk giving them up.

I'll give you all the last word, then I'm off to watch Damien Lewis.
 
but that's like saying the US can make their own pulp mill, they have trees

many items are designed by sourcing certain elements from around the world; each country can't 'do all'

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the system is designed that we rely and depend on neighbours who produce or excel in certain areas, and others in other areas

It's all going to come down to figures, how many 3m can produce, how many other countries need, not just canada but latin america was mentioned, how many the US need etc..If he'd still supplied canada and not south america he'd be called racist.

Apparently according to AP's report: "He [trump] said exceptions might be made to help Italy and Spain, which have been hit hard by the coronavirus outbreak. "

"The events leading to Trump’s order against 3M began weeks ago. A White House official said when Vice President Mike Pence visited a 3M factory in Minnesota last month, he was told that 3M had 35 million N95 masks that were intended for commercial uses but could be used by health care workers.

This week, after 3M received liability protection that it sought, the White House learned that not all of those masks were ready for the U.S. market, the official said.

Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law, has been leading administration contacts with the company to learn where the masks went and why some were not available as promised. The situation led Trump to invoke the Defense Production Act, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss events that have not been made public. "

The company said it has raised U.S. production of N95 masks from 22 million in January to 35 million in March, with the entire increase being distributed in the United States. 3M said 10 million N95 masks that it produced in China will be shipped to the U.S.

The company has traditionally exported about 6 million masks a month to Canada and Latin America, where 3M is a primary supplier. 3M objected to stopping those exports.

....Others, however, said allowing the company to export masks could threaten safety of Americans.

“The claim that it is humanitarian to ship masks that could have saved American lives to other countries will astonish and anger a lot of American customers of 3M,” said Erik Gordon, a business professor at the University of Michigan.

The fight with 3M, while unusual, is not unprecedented. Just last week, Trump invoked the same 1950 law to force General Motors to build ventilators used to treat COVID-19 patients.


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Hopefully the export of masks can resume once the US has enough for it's own requirements.
 
First it was his/her topic with the EU and its destruction or whatever. And how he/she answered to posts in that thread. Now this too...just noticing a pattern! I don't mind answering to questions or comments in general but the way he/she presents them...meh.
Just noticing a pattern with in two posts yet after the first post ( EU) you called me a Russian Troll?
This is a forum created for discussion. I have simply posted discussion points. It seems in this case it is not what has been posted but who has posted it.
Maybe address the post and not the poster. It works
 
I think it is superb. Let them dig their own grave.

If they go full in with the plan, it will ensure the ultimate fiscal downfall of the US and with that the end of the US Dollar as the world's reserve currency. And Mr T will be able to add another bankruptcy to his resume!!! :rolleyes:

After the Bretton-Woods agreement was terminated by the US, the countries decided to keep the US Dollar as the reserve currency, giving the Fed the power to print money indefinitely, something no other Central Bank can do. However, that was based on the independence of the FED from the Treasury in such that the Treasury cannot control the actions of the FED.

Bernanke did something similar during the 2008 crisis but it was limited and he phased it out quickly when they realized what the dangers are. This time the FED goes full in.

The current problem is that the FED had to use all arrows in its quiver right at the start of the pandemic. Reason being the $1.5 trillion tax cut, the interest rate cut last year and other goodies Mr T and his cronies distributed, virtually pillaging the Treasury. Instead of staying on a consolidation course in good economic times, Mr T went on a spending spree adding more than $3 trillion to the national debt and that during the "best economy ever". :rolleyes:

The entire economy of the last years has been inflated and with that the stock market. If you look at the fundamentals, stocks have been long overvalued to the point that it became ridiculous. It is akin the DOT.COM bubble at the turn of the century, just on steroids.
It will be very interesting to see what happens over the coming weeks. From what I see is that Trump is being true to his word when he promised to consider his own Country and people first. By taking control of the Fed he has taken control away from the banks. But how will he use that control? Will he use it for the good of the American people instead of big banks?
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Will he survive without getting assassinated?
 
It will be very interesting to see what happens over the coming weeks. From what I see is that Trump is being true to his word when he promised to consider his own Country and people first. By taking control of the Fed he has taken control away from the banks. But how will he use that control? Will he use it for the good of the American people instead of big banks?
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Will he survive without getting assassinated?

You got that wrong mate. It is

Mr T first, Mr T second, Mr T third..............long nothing............. his millionaire and billionaire friends, maybe some that bow to him .............................. long..............very long..............very very long .................... nothing ............. country ..................long nothing..............people.

You must see his actions through the lens of the upcoming elections. All he does is to keep his chances for reelection. He's got about a dozen or maybe dozens sealed indictments waiting should he leave in Jan 2021. Many of them will hit the statute of limitation if he stays on until 2024.

He will not control banks, that is still in the hands of the Rothschilds just like they have a lot of influence on the FED. What he will have control over though are the "printing presses" for the $. And that is like giving a small child a box of matches while standing in a barn of dry straw. :D

If you care to look at the CARE package (pun intended) they just passed, they miraculously included $108 B that will benefit real estate companies just like that of Mr T. Makes you wonder why? They put less in for e.g. hospitals and airlines. And you think he will do anything good for the people?! :rolleyes:
 
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It will be very interesting to see what happens over the coming weeks. From what I see is that Trump is being true to his word when he promised to consider his own Country and people first. By taking control of the Fed he has taken control away from the banks. But how will he use that control? Will he use it for the good of the American people instead of big banks?
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Will he survive without getting assassinated?

Well mack...what do you think? Will Trump survive without getting assassinated? Burgers or Melania don't count.
 
You got that wrong mate. It is

Mr T first, Mr T second, Mr T third..............long nothing............. his millionaire and billionaire friends, maybe some that bow to him .............................. long..............very long..............very very long .................... nothing ............. country ..................long nothing..............people.

You must see his actions through the lens of the upcoming elections. All he does is to keep his chances for reelection. He's got about a dozen or maybe dozens sealed indictments waiting should he leave in Jan 2021. Many of them will hit the statute of limitation if he stays on until 2024.

He will not control banks, that is still in the hands of the Rothschilds just like they have a lot of influence on the FED. What he will have control over though are the "printing presses" for the $. And that is like giving a small child a box of matches while standing in a barn of dry straw. :D

If you care to look at the CARE package (pun intended) they just passed, they miraculously included $108 B that will benefit real estate companies just like that of Mr T. Makes you wonder why? They put less in for e.g. hospitals and airlines. And you think he will do anything good for the people?! :rolleyes:
I do see his actions through the lens of the upcoming election. But your neglecting the fact that his opposition need to be viewed through the same lens.
His opposition have thrown everything they can at him without any effect. In fact I guess that it has left the American public no longer having faith in either their media or in the opposition.
The only weapon they had left was the economy. An economy thats being devastated due to this Pandemic crisis.
I am interested to see how it all pans out over the coming weeks and months
 
I do see his actions through the lens of the upcoming election. But your neglecting the fact that his opposition need to be viewed through the same lens.
His opposition have thrown everything they can at him without any effect. In fact I guess that it has left the American public no longer having faith in either their media or in the opposition.
The only weapon they had left was the economy. An economy thats being devastated due to this Pandemic crisis.
I am interested to see how it all pans out over the coming weeks and months

The opposition had not a single "iota" of power until Jan 2019. Geez Colin, are you trying to be blind on purpose?

Do you really think that the US economy was good as Mr T never stopped saying?

It was built on borrowing some $3 trillion - 3,000,000,000,000 - of which large corporations and wealthy people got roughly 80-85%. Nearly $1 trillion was used for stock buy-backs.

- Manufacturing was contracting for roughly 10 months in a row when Corona hit
- The FED lowered interest rates twice in 2019 (and Mr T shouted endlessly for more)
- The FED massively increased their intervention in the REPO market in 2019
- The FED increased QE in 2019
- The Treasury calculated that the tax cut would generate not less but more tax revenue, it has tanked instead, with the deficit hitting roughly $1 trillion - 1,000,000,000,000. And that with an economy growing at roughly 2 - 2.5%
- An atypical large portion of jobs created were gig, part-time, low-wage or time-limited jobs, not what you would normally see in the "best" economy ever.
- The yield curve for US Treasury bonds inverted twice in 2019
- ........list by far not complete.

And you think/believe it was a good economy?

But Mr T is good at blinding people, I give him that. After all, that is what he has been doing all his life, so plenty of time to perfect the "art of the con". His presidency and the successes he claims to have is the best "Con from the DON", it's the con of his life. :rolleyes:
 
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In other news:

- Mr T nominates Atkinson as IC Inspector General in 2017, gets him confirmed in May 2018
- Atkinson follows the law and submits a credible whistleblower report to Congress
- Mr T fires Atkinson saying he has the "absolute right" to do so and calling him a "disgrace" and "not a big Trump fan".

Moral of the story: Anyone following the law in his administration is a "disgrace" and will be fired! :rolleyes:

The last person who used "absolute" so often to describe his powers was about 100 years ago in Germany.

Mr T proclaims he has "absolute immunity", "absolute power", "absolute right to do whatever he wants" - as a US citizen that would raise some alarms bells for me.

This was his best sentence in the presser: "Never came in to see me, never requested to see me." ..... right, so now the police will have to let every suspected criminal know that they might be investigated if you follow his words. "Banana republic" stuff.

And he has not the absolute right as it is a Senate-confirmed position and he has to give clear reasons in writing as to what led to the firing. That someone is not a "big Trump fan" does not count. :rolleyes:
 
Seems like I am again keeping this thread alive :D

As with all things regarding Mr T, there is one thing that never changes --> Follow the money!!

He's been touting CQ and HCQ for COVID-19 treatment like a miracle cure. Some journalists followed the money and surprise, surprise. Here's just an excerpt. :rolleyes:

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Seems like I am again keeping this thread alive :D

As with all things regarding Mr T, there is one thing that never changes --> Follow the money!!

He's been touting CQ and HCQ for COVID-19 treatment like a miracle cure. Some journalists followed the money and surprise, surprise. Here's just an excerpt. :rolleyes:

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I read something about this on twitter in the last 24hrs, and the point they made is hydrxychloroquine is a generic so no money can be made off it, well minimal amounts. whereas other newer meds being touted as cures cost up to $1,000 a pop.

There could be a toxic amalgam joining forces here, big pharma that wants to torpedo a generic, low cost medicine, and the MSM that want to bash trump. A few days ago they were focusing on saying the hydroxchloroquine was unproven etc.. now it's getting used more worldwide, they switch to this new angle that trump is recommending it due to a financial interest :confused:

Cuomo was sounding optimistic about the medicine yesterday; one thing I did read was a quote attributed to the french professor who advocates its use, is that it is not very effective once the lungs have been damaged too much, it needs to be given early to get the best result.
 
Seems like I am again keeping this thread alive :D

As with all things regarding Mr T, there is one thing that never changes --> Follow the money!!

He's been touting CQ and HCQ for COVID-19 treatment like a miracle cure. Some journalists followed the money and surprise, surprise. Here's just an excerpt. :rolleyes:

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as much as I wanna agree with you...I don’t think this is his motivation...
 
I read something about this on twitter in the last 24hrs, and the point they made is hydrxychloroquine is a generic so no money can be made off it, well minimal amounts. whereas other newer meds being touted as cures cost up to $1,000 a pop.

There could be a toxic amalgam joining forces here, big pharma that wants to torpedo a generic, low cost medicine, and the MSM that want to bash trump. A few days ago they were focusing on saying the hydroxchloroquine was unproven etc.. now it's getting used more worldwide, they switch to this new angle that trump is recommending it due to a financial interest :confused:

Cuomo was sounding optimistic about the medicine yesterday; one thing I did read was a quote attributed to the french professor who advocates its use, is that it is not very effective once the lungs have been damaged too much, it needs to be given early to get the best result.

Dr. Trump saves the world. Just ignore thousands of dead americans in the corner. Thanks Fox and Trump for taking this seriously!
 
New York governor has thanked Donald Trump for "moving as quickly as he did" to help state

"It's been 37 days"

"The 1918 Influenza Pandemic peaked in New York for 6 months"

"Social Distancing is working"

"NY Pause is working"

"Remember it's about "we" not "me"

Hot off the press
 
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