No enjoyment anymore

[Jono777]

Whining about losses, is one thing.

Starting a new thread to whine, each time he loses, is another.

Time for the official "Bitch and Moan" thread??

Wonder how many pages that would get to before Bryan 'forkified' lol

Oh, hang on a mo, we already have several

 

[Playford7]

LOL...Imagine the scintillating fun watching streamers bash away on DoA at 9p, Donuts at 10p and Extra Chilli at 20p.

Edit - sorry, no disrespect intended to Jono777 and others who like bashing away small deposits.

Not all of us watch the shills. Also pretty sure a while back you wouldn’t touch £2 a spin..
Funny old thing eh?..

 

[Playford7]

Time for the official "Bitch and Moan" thread??

Wonder how many pages that would get to before Bryan 'forkified' lol

Oh, hang on a mo, we already have several

All rigged and tramcemonkey is merely a plant lol

 

[goatwack]

All rigged and tramcemonkey is merely a plant lol

Don't hold back now

Let it all out!

 

[dogshead1]

Whining about losses, is one thing.

Starting a new thread to whine, each time he loses, is another.

Well Gaz you must me remotely
Watching my sessions everyday then if this is your feeling.

If your I whined everytime I lost then this forum would be hammered with new threads on almost every slot out there because I play almost every day. Win some lose some we all do.

This is where it’s not fun anymore. I did not need to point out why as everyone else has covered that basis. My reason like most we have turned to the gamble feature is because the fun has gone out of waiting so long for a bonus to trigger. As I highlighted today losing 37 gamble out of 40 on a 100x stake buy in not merely getting past a 13-14 spins from 12 or past 13x multiplier is no fun.
Not once did things balance out. I would not have cared if I lost money but to experience that is clear indication that the slots these days are by no means fair to the player.

Just for your info player can gamble upto 27 spins and 10x multiplier. For 100x stake buy player starts with 12 spins 1x multiplier 1.5 change on both wheels of losing the first spins due to wheel construction. In this session I actually lost 7/8 of buys barely getting past 13/14 spins or 3x multiplier.

Now your the geniius in math, work that one out!!! It’s not hard to see here the game is a farce. And yes not fair in the player.

My posts go as warning to others. It seems you and a select few don’t like truthful factual opinions say your sick of them but still go out your way to troll the posts.

 

[Playford7]

All rigged and tramcemonkey is merely a plant lol

Tongue in cheek.
Not a serious statement

 

[Playford7]

Well Gaz you must me remotely
Watching my sessions everyday then if this is your feeling.

If your I whined everytime I lost then this forum would be hammered with new threads on almost every slot out there because I play almost every day. Win some lose some we all do.

This is where it’s not fun anymore. I did not need to point out why as everyone else has covered that basis. My reason like most we have turned to the gamble feature is because the fun has gone out of waiting so long for a bonus to trigger. As I highlighted today losing 37 gamble out of 40 on a 100x stake buy in not merely getting past a 13-14 spins from 12 or past 13x multiplier is no fun.
Not once did things balance out. I would not have cared if I lost money but to experience that is clear indication that the slots these days are by no means fair to the player.

Just for your info player can gamble upto 27 spins and 10x multiplier. For 100x stake buy player starts with 12 spins 1x multiplier 1.5 change on both wheels of losing the first spins due to wheel construction. In this session I actually lost 7/8 of buys barely getting past 13/14 spins or 3x multiplier.

Now your the geniius in math, work that one out!!! It’s not hard to see here the game is a farce. And yes not fair in the player.

My posts go as warning to others. It seems you and a select few don’t like truthful factual opinions say your sick of them but still go out your way to troll the posts.

Not a fan of bonus buy’s as essentially it’s just like a fobty.
And certainly it can feel rigged, but you will always remember the losses more that the wins, human nature.
I don’t think for a second they need to cheat, they have the odds stacked in their favour anyhow.
I also disagree with folk stating you have a gambling issue, that’s utter shit, your just annoyed at losing a bit.

 

[Gaz237]

Well Gaz you must me remotely
Watching my sessions everyday then if this is your feeling.

If your I whined everytime I lost then this forum would be hammered with new threads on almost every slot out there because I play almost every day. Win some lose some we all do.

This is where it’s not fun anymore. I did not need to point out why as everyone else has covered that basis. My reason like most we have turned to the gamble feature is because the fun has gone out of waiting so long for a bonus to trigger. As I highlighted today losing 37 gamble out of 40 on a 100x stake buy in not merely getting past a 13-14 spins from 12 or past 13x multiplier is no fun.
Not once did things balance out. I would not have cared if I lost money but to experience that is clear indication that the slots these days are by no means fair to the player.

Just for your info player can gamble upto 27 spins and 10x multiplier. For 100x stake buy player starts with 12 spins 1x multiplier 1.5 change on both wheels of losing the first spins due to wheel construction. In this session I actually lost 7/8 of buys barely getting past 13/14 spins or 3x multiplier.

Now your the geniius in math, work that one out!!! It’s not hard to see here the game is a farce. And yes not fair in the player.

My posts go as warning to others. It seems you and a select few don’t like truthful factual opinions say your sick of them but still go out your way to troll the posts.

But you didn't lose 37 out of 40 gambles.

You continued gambling the feature buy, higher and higher until you lost each feature.

In truth you won more gambles than you lost. But chose to keep gambling till you lost the feature.

That's why we now have another thread, with you whining about how unfair it is.

 

[incrediblestuff]

Time for the official "Bitch and Moan" thread??

Wonder how many pages that would get to before Bryan 'forkified' lol

Oh, hang on a mo, we already have several

My memory is like a sieve nowadays, but i do vaguely recall we actually have such a thread somewhere

Apparently it's forgotten and silently lurking in a corner somewhere

 

[mack341]

I think in his last video the Bandit lost several thousand £ trying to get to the max number of spins and multiplier, and in the end when he got there, the game still stiffed him with about 10 dead spins! It was tilting him no end and I'd say he's a very experienced gambler, so this feature buy/gamble should be approached with extreme caution if not totally avoided.

 

[Playford7]

I think in his last video the Bandit lost several thousand £ trying to get to the max number of spins and multiplier, and in the end when he got there, the game still stiffed him with about 10 dead spins! It was tilting him no end and I'd say he's a very experienced gambler, so this feature buy/gamble should be approached with extreme caution if not totally avoided.

Careful what you believe about the ‘bandit’
On a more serious note the bonus buys want banning, you don’t get the excitement of actually landing a feature, you get a pre determined fobty result, just a lot higher stakes, the bookies played a blinder converting the fobty player to online..

 

[slotter999]

So I wanna share this experience today and leave open for debate. Most may have seen my post Extra Chilli Should be banned. Well I stick my my guns on that.

I did reference that Vikings Unleashed was the most fair out there. Well I take that back. Another note to point out is slots tracker does not track results in buy in features on games that have it.

I got tilted by two factors.

1. £400 Withdrawal rejected via trustly and returned to account did no this as was playing a game with winnings I left in. Went away and balance was at £458 upon return and though I missed a nice win. The chosen bank account was same as my debit card deposit.

2. Tilted on session on vikings unleashed and .20 and .40p stake.

40 Feature buys total and 37 losses. 1 maximum multiplier and 10x and 22 spins. Lost the balls to go for 27. I won 125x Stake (Absolute not worth the risk). For me that's a terrible unfair return and same for the loses on the gamble feature. where I failed to either get past 14 spins from 12 or 4x Multiplier 37 times out 40 every time I lost. We all know the wheel is set a 1-5 chance of busting out at this point and gets smaller as you win more gambles. This is very deceptive in my opinion and falsely advertising your chance of winning at such levels moreso enticing you to keep gambling.

Overall £800 lost out of the 40 buy ins which pretty much sume up how bad this game is and IMO not running a fair return or experience to the player.

What do you think the odds of you hitting maximum free spins and maximum multiplier were from buy a bonus are?

Is the problem perhaps you have unrealistic expectations of certain gambles (as you appear to have on extra chilli) should return?

 

[geordiecolin]

I think in his last video the Bandit lost several thousand £ trying to get to the max number of spins and multiplier, and in the end when he got there, the game still stiffed him with about 10 dead spins! It was tilting him no end and I'd say he's a very experienced gambler, so this feature buy/gamble should be approached with extreme caution if not totally avoided.

Back when buy in features where in their infancy I ended an evening by taking buy in's and I was shocked by how quickly I became comfortable with doing so.Luckily for me I managed to get away with those £50 buy ins but the next day I made sure I reduced my max wager to less than minimal buy in cost.
It is easy for someone to sit down and deposit an amount they are comfortable about losing only to find that nearing the end of the night and just before bed they are neither up or down much so they think why not?
It is not always the case of someone not wishing to enjoy their slotting but in it purely for gain.

 

[goatwack]

Well there's not much playtime to be had with Feature Buys, and it's been put there to get the big bonus round, or so goes the theory.

It's definitely more 'for the gamble' than to enjoy the game itself, and in that sense it serves its purpose.

Still too accessible and popular, and obviously a dangerous thing used to entice Bobby Smallroller to take a chance. BTG have set the trend pretty much by themselves, but to the detriment of regular players.

At what point is it not Responsible Gambling, and what's going to get done about it I wonder. Unless the only way for regulatory bodies to take notice is to wheel out the 'Think of the children' mantra. I'll just write to The Guardian saying my nephew played White Rabbit thinking it was Alice in Wonderland Twinkle Time on his play tablet

 

[mack341]

Careful what you believe about the ‘bandit’
On a more serious note the bonus buys want banning, you don’t get the excitement of actually landing a feature, you get a pre determined fobty result, just a lot higher stakes, the bookies played a blinder converting the fobty player to online..

Playford, I remember reading your differences of opinion with the bandit , I take on board and share a lot of your scepticism etc towards streamers and the like, bandit's annoyed me with his dozens of pyramid gambles on reelking but it has worked out in his favour on the whole so can't blame him, and along with Dunover he's still an enjoyable watch. The key for me is they like a good moan and do it in a funny way.

 

[Aryol]

I think that buying features is not good for anyone, it just risks ripping money too fast. Even worse for players who generally playing at low stakes, they could get in bad touch with it. When I see how a 1k bonus buy pays 0 € I could cry, of course, anyone will have a lucky strike but those who are just unlucky with a few in a row are doomed.

It is even worse when you can lose everything on gambling features, but I know how well these slots are designed. They are not only visual but also acoustic elements which are the reason we are getting "into" the slots. If one feature buy is not good, no problem you have money? Buy another, did not work - no problem can you take credit from your bank? Yes? Nice one! The big hit is waiting only for you! Or? Good Luck I having lunch now I promise I come back if this does not work...

Or in other words: Do not buy these bonus features regularly if you have not enough money you can afford to lose, gambling is the most ironic thing ever. You want to win money to have a better life, but at the same time gambling is not for people who can not afford to lose money. If you have issues with money try to fix the personal things before gambling, this way you will have less pressure to win something.

 

[dogshead1]

What do you think the odds of you hitting maximum free spins and maximum multiplier were from buy a bonus are?

Is the problem perhaps you have unrealistic expectations of certain gambles (as you appear to have on extra chilli) should return?

Jeez what are you guys on...seriously,

I’m not even approaching the slots for maximum spins or multiplier. So now your turn to this as your next poorly thought out dig of my original post. Just wow!

And not so long ago I got banned for defending myself from comments like above. Talk about one sided!

Apologies to all the decent ladies and gents here but there are some idiots whom need to be handled better by the mods!

 

[dionysus]

Apologies to all the decent ladies and gents here but there are some idiots whom need to be handled better by the mods!

Well, there is a handy dandy report button

 

[incrediblestuff]

If you feel attacked in any way, or unjustly addressed and feel you can't defend yourself without risking a ban, then feel free to use the report button mate, mods certainly don't read every thread, so if you feel they need to look at it, that's what that button is for Just a general tip - not taking sides or even saying there's anything going on..

Edited to add Dio what your doin letting me type alla that for nothing

 

[dionysus]

Edited to add Dio what your doin letting me type alla that for nothing

 

[dogshead1]

Please dont take this the wrong way but @dogshead1 sounds like you need a break from slots, your clearly not having fun at the moment.

Trust me I’m taking a break. And your correct I’m not enjoying it anymore. I’m simply highlighting how it becomes so apparent that with buy a feature option you get to see the true reality of how much of a rip off these slots are.

I played Wild North the other day used to be really fun and enjoyable regular bonus rounds that to on average 60-80 spins to land and was compensated buy regular minscule wins which was to be expected. Now and I’ve played a few times just to test the water the developer has clearly altered the mechanism for the worse for the player out of pure greed. I mean it now takes a mere 100-150 on average to trigger a dreadful bonus. In my opinion bits now more volatile than book of dead!

 

[Jono777]

My memory is like a sieve nowadays, but i do vaguely recall we actually have such a thread somewhere

Apparently it's forgotten and silently lurking in a corner somewhere

Whats more worrying is having thought about it, I think it was me who started it

 

[Playford7]

Playford, I remember reading your differences of opinion with the bandit , I take on board and share a lot of your scepticism etc towards streamers and the like, bandit's annoyed me with his dozens of pyramid gambles on reelking but it has worked out in his favour on the whole so can't blame him, and along with Dunover he's still an enjoyable watch. The key for me is they like a good moan and do it in a funny way.

I wasn’t actually being negative about daz or Steve at all actually mate, just saying don’t believe all you hear, it’s not always correct.
I put my anti affiliate stance to bed a long time ago, live and let live now. Peace and all

 

[mack341]

I wasn’t actually being negative about daz or Steve at all actually mate, just saying don’t believe all you hear, it’s not always correct.
I put my anti affiliate stance to bed a long time ago, live and let live now. Peace and all

No, I know you wasn't, it's all water under the bridge. Apart from Daz, do you watch any other slot videos on youtube etc..? I only really watch the bandit and daz, I might once in a blue moon just peek at rocknrolla's channel to see what he's been up to, hypalinx doesn't seem to do online slots now, more arcade/fruities and jimbo and craig seem to have gone off to twitch, which I detest, just looking at the site layout brings on the screaming abdabs for some reason

I feel a bit more chilled towards the streamers now, the casino grounds etc.. they seem to have reached peak popularity a while back and their clickbait doesn't annoy me so much, and if somebody wanted to use their affiliate earnings/income to play slots all day at £2+ and film themselves doing it, that never really bothered me so much as the casinos bailing them out with multiple reload bonuses etc... to my mind these bonuses were so regularly provided that it effectively acted as untaxed/undeclared income for them to gamble with.

Edit: And importantly then plastering social media with clickbait videos, which are in a way unrealistic and misleading to the uninitiated first time viewers, people new to slots etc...

[not really sure what the tax situation is, but think I read the argument that once affiliate income is lost gambling it still has to be declared and taxable, whereas these bonuses are possibly equivalent to an employee perk, I wonder do they have to pay income/ company tax on the money won during the stream where they've relied on the casino bonus that isn't given to normal players?, so if a business provides you with money on a regular basis to gamble with and you win, should it be exempt from tax the same way as normal winnings are?]

 

[brianmon]

I played Wild North the other day used to be really fun and enjoyable regular bonus rounds that to on average 60-80 spins to land and was compensated buy regular minscule wins which was to be expected. Now and I’ve played a few times just to test the water the developer has clearly altered the mechanism for the worse for the player out of pure greed. I mean it now takes a mere 100-150 on average to trigger a dreadful bonus. In my opinion bits now more volatile than book of dead!

Where were you playing it at though?
PnG games have more than one RTP setting, quite a few casinos are now using the secondary 94.xx% games, rather than the primary 96.xx%
I'd check the rpt in the helpfile before playing any PnG games