No enjoyment anymore

dogshead1

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So I wanna share this experience today and leave open for debate. Most may have seen my post Extra Chilli Should be banned. Well I stick my my guns on that.

I did reference that Vikings Unleashed was the most fair out there. Well I take that back. Another note to point out is slots tracker does not track results in buy in features on games that have it.

I got tilted by two factors.

1. £400 Withdrawal rejected via trustly and returned to account did no this as was playing a game with winnings I left in. Went away and balance was at £458 upon return and though I missed a nice win. The chosen bank account was same as my debit card deposit.

2. Tilted on session on vikings unleashed and .20 and .40p stake.

40 Feature buys total and 37 losses. 1 maximum multiplier and 10x and 22 spins. Lost the balls to go for 27. I won 125x Stake (Absolute not worth the risk). For me that's a terrible unfair return and same for the loses on the gamble feature. where I failed to either get past 14 spins from 12 or 4x Multiplier 37 times out 40 every time I lost. We all know the wheel is set a 1-5 chance of busting out at this point and gets smaller as you win more gambles. This is very deceptive in my opinion and falsely advertising your chance of winning at such levels moreso enticing you to keep gambling.

Overall £800 lost out of the 40 buy ins which pretty much sume up how bad this game is and IMO not running a fair return or experience to the player.
 

Nate

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I can't comment on the integrity of the game however,

Typical case in point are the stats Casumo just posted for November 2018.

Out of ALL the Megaways to lose slots and other titles from the same manufacturers, the wins exceeding 2000x bet (4 x or more) only ended up being on DHV - and that was a mere 6 times. In comparison to DOA's 60 odd times and BOD's 80 odd times.

With the amount of games they have with the said potential using the Mega-No-Pays engine, its alarming how absent the big wins are altogether. Think about it, people are free to buy features on slots like White Rabbit / Extra Chilli etc etc... so instead we should theoretically see more big wins as you are not triggering the feature naturally...

Apparently not. If you guys don't see the farce BTG has created, then honestly they will keep dishing it out to you.

Nate
 

SteveBr

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I saw the same thing. Funnily enough the two games I play the most are those two at the top of Casumo's list for November. Precisely because I get more big wins off them more regularly than any other slot. I like BGT's slots too, I've had some decent wins off them but I very rarely buy any features, mostly when the buy has gone below 50%. Those times I've bought it over 50% I've invariably lost. I see the feature buys as a quick route to the poorhouse if done on a regular basis. Same with the gamble, I do use it but not very often, it all depends on my balance at the time. That strategy does work sometimes :thumbsup:
 

Gaz237

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So I wanna share this experience today and leave open for debate. Most may have seen my post Extra Chilli Should be banned. Well I stick my my guns on that.

I did reference that Vikings Unleashed was the most fair out there. Well I take that back. Another note to point out is slots tracker does not track results in buy in features on games that have it.

I got tilted by two factors.

1. £400 Withdrawal rejected via trustly and returned to account did no this as was playing a game with winnings I left in. Went away and balance was at £458 upon return and though I missed a nice win. The chosen bank account was same as my debit card deposit.

2. Tilted on session on vikings unleashed and .20 and .40p stake.

40 Feature buys total and 37 losses. 1 maximum multiplier and 10x and 22 spins. Lost the balls to go for 27. I won 125x Stake (Absolute not worth the risk). For me that's a terrible unfair return and same for the loses on the gamble feature. where I failed to either get past 14 spins from 12 or 4x Multiplier 37 times out 40 every time I lost. We all know the wheel is set a 1-5 chance of busting out at this point and gets smaller as you win more gambles. This is very deceptive in my opinion and falsely advertising your chance of winning at such levels moreso enticing you to keep gambling.

Overall £800 lost out of the 40 buy ins which pretty much sume up how bad this game is and IMO not running a fair return or experience to the player.

Are you going to start a new thread, on every slot you lose on, saying it's not fair?.

As for the £400, you had £58 in your account, which was £458 when you returned. You don't need a degree in math to work out the £400, you had just withdrawn had been returned to your balance.
 

Guntis

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I'm not the fun of BTG but the buy feature to me seems definitely a lose-lose option.

For example, in the game White Rabbit, you need to pay x100 of your initial bet to buy the feature.

It means in the bonus round the game has to pay you at least x100 to cover your purchase! But even if it pays x100 you have no profit at all!

Just think: how often (in general) you get x100 playing this game? And you will realize that it's an obvious disadvantage! I reckon the same applies to other "the buy feature games".
 

SpinUk

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Also forgetting the elephant in the room that I bet that despite no 2000x wins Bonanza is probably by far the more popular game than those on that list, so would expect more players not less (zero) to get one.

And also considering the tens if not hundreds of thousands of active players Casumo has, to not have a single one speaks for itself. Its actually made up my decision now to abandon all play on it apart from the occasional wagering required play.
 

Mouche12

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There's always a considerable risk buying the bonus feature, consider Fat Santa which I think is a fun game. Bonus can pay out quite nicely (had 300-400x wins) or it can pay zilch...
 

goatwack

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Well, I got from £20 up to £270 on Bonanza....this morning, for my sins.

This site was particularly laggy and each spin was taking about four seconds, so I did a 'Dunover' and reeled the £2 bets off 'til I got to £150. One cascade of 'nearly-GOLD' and a few hundred spins later, I was at £150, then did the final countdown to 0 with £1 bets.

So ultimately my choice to whittle that money away from a great position. And yes, I basically cacked myself betting that high, each spin felt like a mortgage payment

Not enjoyable, no, but am I glad it's flippin' over. I'd have been here until 5pm playing!

To wit, my session flatlined, that much was apparent. No scatters anywhere, like a Scatters MIA TV appeal. With my last £1 I thought I'd break it into 20p bets. What unfolded was several small wins and even a G O L :laugh:

Hmmmm :D
 

dogshead1

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Are you going to start a new thread, on every slot you lose on, saying it's not fair?.

As for the £400, you had £58 in your account, which was £458 when you returned. You don't need a degree in math to work out the £400, you had just withdrawn had been returned to your balance.
Not sure what your problem is but you clearly have one.

Your comment is out of order as for the majority of your posts in my threads. Always having a pop and nothing productive like most to comment.

I’ve created threads on the good and the bad and yes like to express and share my experiences. The comment your make above is poorly singled out to reference myself as what exactly? You not willing to take that one step further in deragatoy posting in fear of being suspended from the forum denying you troll like behaviour?

I was still playing slots at the time hence why I said wasn’t sure if I missed a big win! Something you clearly missed?
 

mac72

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I can't comment on the integrity of the game however,

Typical case in point are the stats Casumo just posted for November 2018.

Out of ALL the Megaways to lose slots and other titles from the same manufacturers, the wins exceeding 2000x bet (4 x or more) only ended up being on DHV - and that was a mere 6 times. In comparison to DOA's 60 odd times and BOD's 80 odd times.

With the amount of games they have with the said potential using the Mega-No-Pays engine, its alarming how absent the big wins are altogether. Think about it, people are free to buy features on slots like White Rabbit / Extra Chilli etc etc... so instead we should theoretically see more big wins as you are not triggering the feature naturally...

Apparently not. If you guys don't see the farce BTG has created, then honestly they will keep dishing it out to you.

Nate
I can’t agree more with the above sentiments and I’ve known for some time that bonanza is a turd albeit gold wrapped. Before it 90% of my play was DOA and I had dozens of wild lines, 5 scatter 6/7 times and payouts of up to 8000x bet. I’ve given bonanza just as much play and 1 time hit 1010x rest of “big hits” 3-400 range. It is utter stupidity to continue but that’s where they’ve nailed it somehow you return time and time again. I always had the belief with DOA the money line was coming and it did pretty much within the parameters you’d expect sometimes more often but bonanza, we’ll its fools gold and unfortunately many of us myself included just keep feeding it.
 

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Are you going to start a new thread, on every slot you lose on, saying it's not fair?.

As for the £400, you had £58 in your account, which was £458 when you returned. You don't need a degree in math to work out the £400, you had just withdrawn had been returned to your balance.

Are you employed by someone to trigger players who complain about slots.

Yes he whines about losses but so do most of us me included but everytime and you have done it to me too when someone posts in heat of the moment you are their being rude and condescending.

Maybe take a break from getting up people's backsides.
 

Steviedoo

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You really don’t want enjoyment, you want to make money while playing slots cuz if you wanted to enjoy playing slots you would play the slots and wait for the bonus feature to appear organically and not pay for the feature. Just my opinion.

Yes we all want to make money... but losing sight of the fact that the house edge is against us, buying numerous buy ins for features, and chasing losses will indeed render playing slots unenjoyable and it usually ends with a post like this.

I’m not a fan of btg. Never played them while they were still available to us.
 

Buffalo Bill

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When the fun stops, stop. Can not agree more about DOA too, i have had quite a few wild lines and one feature paid over 8500x Bonanza however my highest win in a couple of hundred thousand spins has been 700x. It just feels like other base games are boring compared to a lot of the megaways slots, I can't really explain it.
 

SlotGrinder

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When the fun stops - stop . It's never fun if you're losing , is it ? I would have stopped after the 1st spin if I followed that advice . I know casinos want you to think its all a fun game but ultimately you want to win money for the rush of hitting a big win and because , well it's money that you won in an instant and that kind of money is fun money , rather than the sort of money you earnt by working your ass off
 

dunover

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if it was all about just fun and entertainment. Then slots would be set at minimum stake, with no way to increase the stake. :rolleyes:
LOL...Imagine the scintillating fun watching streamers bash away on DoA at 9p, Donuts at 10p and Extra Chilli at 20p.

Edit - sorry, no disrespect intended to Jono777 and others who like bashing away small deposits.
 
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goatwack

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Slots aren't meant to be fun - but it helps

The slogan When the fun stops, stop has to be the most patronizing statement out there. Gambling is to win, but of course they'd have us thinking it's 'for fun' :laugh:
 

Steviedoo

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Imagine how much fun it is to buy 40 features and 37 of those pay ZERO.

Know when to stop.
 

dunover

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Slots aren't meant to be fun - but it helps

The slogan When the fun stops, stop has to be the most patronizing statement out there. Gambling is to win, but of course they'd have us thinking it's 'for fun' :laugh:
What it really means, but is worded in a way inoffensive to the gambling industry, is "When the money's run out, stop!"
 

Jono777

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LOL...Imagine the scintillating fun watching streamers bash away on DoA at 9p, Donuts at 10p and Extra Chilli at 20p.

Edit - sorry, no disrespect intended to Jono777 and others who like bashing away small deposits.

None taken mate.

Back in the pre - rigged days, I happily increase my stakes if that particular session was going well. Still do to this day to be fair but with a lot more caution.

Hell I've even being banging away on my nemesis, "Extra Chilli" at a whopping 0.60 bet recently :eek: :oops:

I used to be pretty jammy with my smaller £20/£25 deposits and have withdrawn 4 figures and high three figures a good many times, just not recently.

For me the enjoyment started to decline after a continual run of predictably piss poor bonus rounds, seeing that 3rd scatter land used to bring a pang of anticipation, a touch of "pre match nerves" most times now I usually let out a sigh and roll my eyes :rolleyes:
 
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incrediblestuff

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LOL...Imagine the scintillating fun watching streamers bash away on DoA at 9p, Donuts at 10p and Extra Chilli at 20p.

Edit - sorry, no disrespect intended to Jono777 and others who like bashing away small deposits.

I actually would enjoy that 100x more than for instance seeing dickstein rolling on 50 or 100 a spin
 

Reelsoffun

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Yeah me too, would be nice to see what sort of realistic payouts on normal stakes can be expected rather than wins on stakes that 80% of the population dont play at.
 

Gaz237

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Are you employed by someone to trigger players who complain about slots.

Yes he whines about losses but so do most of us me included but everytime and you have done it to me too when someone posts in heat of the moment you are their being rude and condescending.

Maybe take a break from getting up people's backsides.

Whining about losses, is one thing.

Starting a new thread to whine, each time he loses, is another.
 
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