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How are you supposed to rate a casino without playing there?
It's f*&^ing easy - you can review casinos without signing up. You can scan their website - see what games they offer, see where they are licensed, see who they are connected to. As an experienced gambler you can make these observances without signing up. You are giving advice to your fellow members and our visitors which we transfer to the review page. To think that signing up is a requirement is quite short sighted in my opinion.

If you don't want to participate in the MMs - just let me know.
 
And I am the one who PMd each of the Meister Minion members who are vocal in this thread to PLEASE post their ratings and reviews in the Meister Minion forum so that Dionysus or I can transfer those reviews to the official review page.

Only colinsunderland posted something there - a one sentence review.

Dionysus is the editor/moderator of the MM section, and he was tasked to work on this - and your calling him a shill? WTF??
I took part in this thread in good faith and I even attempted to back out of the convo last night but I was met with a reply I felt compelled to respond too.
Not all threads needs a "Here's Johnny"
 
I took part in this thread in good faith and I even attempted to back out of the convo last night but I was met with a reply I felt compelled to respond too.
Not all threads needs a "Here's Johnny"
it's a thread I'm specifically tasked with, so it rather does
 
It's f*&^ing easy - you can review casinos without signing up. You can scan their website - see what games they offer, see where they are licensed, see who they are connected to. As an experienced gambler you can make these observances without signing up. You are giving advice to your fellow members and our visitors which we transfer to the review page. To think that signing up is a requirement is quite short sighted in my opinion.

If you don't want to participate in the MMs - just let me know.

Which is what I did? Not sure what else I could write that hadn't already been put in the thread and without playing there, at least I did write something.
 
It's f*&^ing easy - you can review casinos without signing up. You can scan their website - see what games they offer, see where they are licensed, see who they are connected to. As an experienced gambler you can make these observances without signing up. You are giving advice to your fellow members and our visitors which we transfer to the review page. To think that signing up is a requirement is quite short sighted in my opinion.

If you don't want to participate in the MMs - just let me know.
That is patently not true and you know it is not.The terms and criteria demand you deposit,play at and withdraw
 
I'm not asking you to give us payout info - I am asking for a rating - sheesh! Read my PM.
The requirements of a Minion is clearly set out for us and is understood. Just because you may not have specified we stick to those requirements. That email does not change what we understand our requirements to be. But as a side your email reached me long after I had already deposited there with the intention to play and give feedback which is clearly evident in this thread.
Thanks for you and your staffs gratitude
 
Well, I answer to the guy in blue, so for me, it's his opinion kind of matters in regards to the tasks assigned me

That aside, I'd have answered the same way if my name were in green.
But it isn't and here we are. And everyone has had a say so I suspect we can go back to reviews and everyone can always bump any concerns up the chain in pms
 
As an update. Despite me leaving SpinHill in the position that I last stated I logged in to find that I was able to withdraw despite it claiming that the bonus playthrough was not completed. I will request it to be flushed via live chat and once its all processed and in my account I will happily post a full review in both the minions section and the review section.
No live chat even in daytime!
I'm done with this thread
 
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I'm affraid to say this needs another update.

In reply to my email requesting that they flush my withdrawal they claim that my account needs to be verified.

This despite them locking my account on start up until I completed verification,which of course I already have done!

Do not deposit at this casino
 
It's f*&^ing easy - you can review casinos without signing up. You can scan their website - see what games they offer, see where they are licensed, see who they are connected to. As an experienced gambler you can make these observances without signing up. You are giving advice to your fellow members and our visitors which we transfer to the review page. To think that signing up is a requirement is quite short sighted in my opinion.

If you don't want to participate in the MMs - just let me know.

sor try boss but I beg to differ here.
I feel it is unjust to review a casino when you haven’t played there.
I can’t, in good faith, recommend or slate a casino based purely on having a look around.

a brand can LOOK as fancy pants as it likes. It can say 24hour live help, it can show as having a thousand games to play, it can offer faster withdrawals etc
None of which can be taken as truth until a player actually goes through the experience of playing.
It isn’t until you Load a slot that you’re met with errors. It isn’t until you try to make a withdrawal that you are faced with 48 hours pending, followed by the balance being returned to your account due to lack of verification.
It isn’t until you try to contact the 24 hour live help that you see live chat only available between 1pm and 6pm.
During 1pm-6pm it says ‘live chat unavailable’.
Or wait 3 days for an email reply.

many MM’s are conscientious and want to do the job well.
It’s very wrong that this can be met in Such an objectionable manner by mods...
 
Seen many an accredited casino offer all sorts of games, nice menus and payment options, whilst UK licenced, only to end up giving me all manner of gyp.

A site can look the biz from the outside and still 'perform' badly in all manner of ways, notably I've seen sites that were accredited and had games that juddered and stuttered worse than my great grandmother.

Payment speed is king and too often will some of the 'better' casinos pull all manner of rogue KYC stunts and give me the runaround (not reacharound, unfortunately)

As reviews are subjective it is important to get an overall 'aggregate' score for these sites by active players as one or two opinions can be, erm, 'skewed' to favour the casino. So that's why I always thought it a thankless but crucial undertaking by our minion number-cruncher whipping boys (& girls, equality ree) and should not be dismissed lightly :cool:
 
Wow just read this and quite perturbed at the content of this thread. Here we have someone posting about their experience at a casino, as encouraged to do, which in turn appears he was lambasted for - don't bite the hand that feeds you, doesn't bode well or encourage people to become MM's and help CM in the future.
 
Again. The reader can decide if your intervention and conduct was warranted. I responded to you with restraint
Wow just read this and quite perturbed at the content of this thread. Here we have someone posting about their experience at a casino, as encouraged to do, which in turn appears he was lambasted for - don't bite the hand that feeds you, doesn't bode well or encourage people to become MM's and help CM in the future.
I was left totally disheartened by the response that I woke up to yesterday morning.
I presumed that I would have been supported by senior management but instead all I read was vilification from them.
To be fair after some communication Mr CM was utterly fine with me yesterday. Then Max today,more than 24 hours after the event gives me an infraction which can obviously be used against me as a tool if he desired in future!
I have utter respect for this site and what it stands for.
I have spent one hell of a lot of money losing in the interest of inparting info data for this site.
What reason is there for us to actively get involved either financially,emotionally or both in the health of what is just another site that provides casino content?

Thank you so much for providing me with support in this thread Supa,Goat and Greylady.
I woke up yesterday thinking I must be on my own so I decided to shut my mouth.
Ban me if you wish to Max
 
I was left totally disheartened by the response that I woke up to yesterday morning.
I presumed that I would have been supported by senior management but instead all I read was vilification from them.
To be fair after some communication Mr CM was utterly fine with me yesterday. Then Max today,more than 24 hours after the event gives me an infraction which can obviously be used against me as a tool if he desired in future!
I have utter respect for this site and what it stands for.
I have spent one hell of a lot of money losing in the interest of inparting info data for this site.
What reason is there for us to actively get involved either financially,emotionally or both in the health of what is just another site that provides casino content?

Thank you so much for providing me with support in this thread Supa,Goat and Greylady.
I woke up yesterday thinking I must be on my own so I decided to shut my mouth.
Ban me if you wish to Max

Keep your chin up young man.

It's not about support but about an objective view of the thread and I seriously could not see what you had done wrong, especially hearing that you were banned, albeit briefly. Sometimes the 'masters' should look closer to home, just because you have staff, they are not always right, which is pretty obvious to an outsider.
 
I was left totally disheartened by the response that I woke up to yesterday morning.
I presumed that I would have been supported by senior management but instead all I read was vilification from them.
To be fair after some communication Mr CM was utterly fine with me yesterday. Then Max today,more than 24 hours after the event gives me an infraction which can obviously be used against me as a tool if he desired in future!
I have utter respect for this site and what it stands for.
I have spent one hell of a lot of money losing in the interest of inparting info data for this site.
What reason is there for us to actively get involved either financially,emotionally or both in the health of what is just another site that provides casino content?

Thank you so much for providing me with support in this thread Supa,Goat and Greylady.
I woke up yesterday thinking I must be on my own so I decided to shut my mouth.
Ban me if you wish to Max
I only did it because you did promise me that signed Michael Chopra shirt. I presume that offer's still on the table :eek:
 
I was left totally disheartened by the response that I woke up to yesterday morning.
I presumed that I would have been supported by senior management but instead all I read was vilification from them.
To be fair after some communication Mr CM was utterly fine with me yesterday. Then Max today,more than 24 hours after the event gives me an infraction which can obviously be used against me as a tool if he desired in future!
I have utter respect for this site and what it stands for.
I have spent one hell of a lot of money losing in the interest of inparting info data for this site.
What reason is there for us to actively get involved either financially,emotionally or both in the health of what is just another site that provides casino content?

Thank you so much for providing me with support in this thread Supa,Goat and Greylady.
I woke up yesterday thinking I must be on my own so I decided to shut my mouth.
Ban me if you wish to Max

FTR the record I have much sympathy with your position here. I also agree somewhat with what Bryan said but I think there is a general failure to distinguish between the experience and knowledge expected of players and players who are experienced affiliates.

Four years ago I would simply take information on trust and at face value when considering playing at a new casino mentioned on here. Now having affiliate experience too I suppose what Bryan says would apply to me, in that I would be expected to know license details (co-licensees) and a fair bit about whom I am dealing with if I choose to sign up. Plus I know to use the MM info which I must say most of us here have neglected to add much to in the last year or so, including me.

It's reasonable when a forum member here to implicitly trust any site put forward to the membership, and when in the Grey Zone expect them to be checked. I mentioned earlier the aff. programme was bungling to say the least and I did join them 18 months ago just before I myself promoted them. They pay after 48 hours but I dropped them very quickly afterwards when it became apparent they weren't equipped to consistently provide the service one would expect from a casino we would normally play at. As I said, the aff. programme was evidence of this. The team behind them appears to be French although that could just be the people I communicated with.

It's obvious that things haven't improved since I last dealt with them. They aren't dishonest, they will pay in 48 hours after KYC and eventually settled my commission too - it's just they don't seem to have the people and resources to run an effective all-round operation which at this present time means I could not in all honesty recommend them to people here who are invariably used to a far superior CS, Interface and KYC/payments system.

I also believe that any casino posted on here should have a rep on call, grey zone or not. It benefits the players here and likewise provides invaluable feedback to the casino itself if they are genuinely trying to improve themselves, it's mutually beneficial.

I'm not sure it's safe to provide grey zone casinos in the general forum - fair enough if they turn out to be kosher and even end up on board accredited and repped-up, but if they turn to ratshit then people could lose out and it could damage the CM reputation at worst. I think there should be sufficient MM information and date BEFORE they are presented, rather than aggregate that data ex post facto. Just my view peeps...
 
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FTR the record I have much sympathy with your position here. I also agree somewhat with what Bryan said but I think there is a general failure to distinguish between the experience and knowledge expected of players and players who are experienced affiliates.

Four years ago I would simply take information on trust and at face value when considering playing at a new casino mentioned on here. Now having affiliate experience too I suppose what Bryan says would apply to me, in that I would be expected to know license details (co-licensees) and a fair bit about whom I am dealing with if I choose to sign up. Plus I know to use the MM info which I must say most of us here have neglected to add much to in the last year or so, including me.

It's reasonable when a forum member here to implicitly trust any site put forward to the membership, and when in the Grey Zone expect them to be checked. I mentioned earlier the aff. programme was bungling to say the least and I did join them 18 months ago just before I myself promoted them. They pay after 48 hours but I dropped them very quickly afterwards when it became apparent they weren't equipped to consistently provide the service one would expect from a casino we would normally play at. As I said, the aff. programme was evidence of this. The team behind them appears to be French although that could just be the people I communicated with.

It's obvious that things haven't improved since I last dealt with them. They aren't dishonest, they will pay in 48 hours after KYC and eventually settled my commission too - it's just they don't seem to have the people and resources to run an effective all-round operation which at this present time means I could not in all honesty recommend them to people here who are invariably used to a far superior CS, Interface and KYC/payments system.

I also believe that any casino posted on here should have a rep on call, grey zone or not. It benefits the players here and likewise provides invaluable feedback to the casino itself if they are genuinely trying to improve themselves, it's mutually beneficial.

I'm not sure it's safe to provide grey zone casinos in the general forum - fair enough if they turn out to be kosher and even end up on board accredited and repped-up, but if they turn to ratshit then people could lose out and it could damage the CM reputation at worst. I think there should be sufficient MM information and date BEFORE they are presented, rather than aggregate that data ex post facto. Just my view peeps...
I will reply tomorrow to your post but in respect I don't want to digest it all while enjoying spinning at a casino before bed :)
 
Keep your chin up young man.

It's not about support but about an objective view of the thread and I seriously could not see what you had done wrong, especially hearing that you were banned, albeit briefly. Sometimes the 'masters' should look closer to home, just because you have staff, they are not always right, which is pretty obvious to an outsider.

Last part bang on. It's same mod who seems to thibk he needs to answer to everyone's single post. Which in turn causes these issues.

Not sure why he feels the need to be so active in responding to everything when it clearly doesn't require a staff response.
 
Last part bang on. It's same mod who seems to thibk he needs to answer to everyone's single post. Which in turn causes these issues.

Not sure why he feels the need to be so active in responding to everything when it clearly doesn't require a staff response.
pretty much been as participatory when the name was a different colour
you know like most active members;
youd pretty much only know if I'Im responding or participating in threads if you happen to be in those threads as well so I fail to see the problem there.

got a beef? you know who runs the site
click here, > @Casinomeister

oh? and ftr? I've never laid a warning or infraction..EVER.. not even ONCE, so you can take that up with them; pretty certain they're aware how and why issues arise and who the general culprits are.
Me? I've been here 10 years and havent received one.
 
pretty much been as participatory when the name was a different colour
you know like most active members;
youd pretty much only know if I'Im responding or participating in threads if you happen to be in those threads as well so I fail to see the problem there.

got a beef? you know who runs the site
click here, > @Casinomeister

oh? and ftr? I've never laid a warning or infraction..EVER.. not even ONCE, so you can take that up with them; pretty certain they're aware how and why issues arise and who the general culprits are.
Me? I've been here 10 years and havent received one.


Means nowt! Some people get away with more than others, even I have noticed that on here!
 
I'd suspect it means I'm, and others, are familiar with the posring rules.
If you feel otherwise, you know who to reach out to
hint: he's the big boss
Everyone can complain about my modding all they want. The fact is I get reports, it's my responsivility to respond to them, and what...99.9% of the time it's 'please keep it civil'.
I'm such an ogre. :rolleyes:

as for participating? Like..everyone does? Well, yeah, I like participating. And people participate back. I'm still a member here.

But it's all really here nor there.
I'd say let's all keep it to the thread topic at hand and if anyone has any issues, they know how to reach the upper staff.
Otherwise this will just likely get binned or closed.
 
I'd suspect it means I'm, and others, are familiar with the posring rules.
If you feel otherwise, you know who to reach out to
hint: he's the big boss
Everyone can complain about my modding all they want. The fact is I get reports, it's my responsivility to respond to them, and what...999% of the time it's 'please keep it civil'.
I'm such an ogre. :rolleyes:

as for participating? Like..everyone does? Well, yeah, I like participating. And people participate back.

But it's all really here nor there.
I'd say let's all keep it to the thread topic at hand and if anyone has any issues, they know how to reach the upper staff.
Otherwise this will just likely get binned or closed.
What a worthwhile contribution to this given the context of what has been posted during the last 24 hours or so
 
When will this madness end

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I'd suspect it means I'm, and others, are familiar with the posring rules.
If you feel otherwise, you know who to reach out to
hint: he's the big boss
Everyone can complain about my modding all they want. The fact is I get reports, it's my responsivility to respond to them, and what...999% of the time it's 'please keep it civil'.
I'm such an ogre. :rolleyes:

as for participating? Like..everyone does? Well, yeah, I like participating. And people participate back.

But it's all really here nor there.
I'd say let's all keep it to the thread topic at hand and if anyone has any issues, they know how to reach the upper staff.
Otherwise this will just likely get binned or closed.
What a worthwhile contribution to this given the context of what has been posted during the last 24 hours or so
and again, you know who to reach out to so let's get back on track.
Thanks
 
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Well. This thread I'm afraid stems from some misunderstandings and miscommunications, mostly on my part.

I think what I was trying to imply earlier was that it was clear to me that a number of MMs had experiences with this casino, as well as others, and I was hoping that these experiences would be added in the Meister Minion rating forums. This way I (or Dionysus) could transfer those comments to the official reviews.

The Casinomeister reviews are essential here - they are NOT just my opinions, but YOURS. Many Meister Minions are playing at loads of casinos - posting experiences here, but not in the MM section which eventually end up in the official reviews.

Examples:

Here we have a number of MMs participating: :thumbsup:
Videoslots Casino ️ : Best Online Casino 2018 - Casinomeister Reviews

Bitstarz has none: :(
Bitstarz Casino ️ Trusted & Updated Info | Casinomeister® Reviews

Fun Casino has none: :(
Fun Casino Review: Now Accredited Casino!

And I am sure there are a number of Minions - at least five of you - that have accounts there and that could offer a valid opinion.

I certainly don't expect people to deposit on my behalf to do a review.

What I may do is send x amount to volunteers via Paypal in order to do a review. If you win anything - keep it. Perhaps this is a solution - but then it's something else I need to manage.

As for listing casinos in the grey zone - we need to list as many as possible mainly to feed the C2O data base that you folks should be using. It's a free tool that gives you information about a casino's status at Casinomeister. If the casino has no review (Accred, GZ or Rogue) it's not going to appear there.

Concerning not announcing these casinos unless they have a rep is a valid point, and I think that this will be a requirement in the future. I just need to emphasize that they are not Baptism by Fire candidates. IN fact, some casinos are ineligible - like this lot.
 


Well. This thread I'm afraid stems from some misunderstandings and miscommunications, mostly on my part.

I think what I was trying to imply earlier was that it was clear to me that a number of MMs had experiences with this casino, as well as others, and I was hoping that these experiences would be added in the Meister Minion rating forums. This way I (or Dionysus) could transfer those comments to the official reviews.

The Casinomeister reviews are essential here - they are NOT just my opinions, but YOURS. Many Meister Minions are playing at loads of casinos - posting experiences here, but not in the MM section which eventually end up in the official reviews.

Examples:

Here we have a number of MMs participating: :thumbsup:
Videoslots Casino ️ : Best Online Casino 2018 - Casinomeister Reviews

Bitstarz has none: :(
Bitstarz Casino ️ Trusted & Updated Info | Casinomeister® Reviews

Fun Casino has none: :(
Fun Casino Review: Now Accredited Casino!

And I am sure there are a number of Minions - at least five of you - that have accounts there and that could offer a valid opinion.

I certainly don't expect people to deposit on my behalf to do a review.

What I may do is send x amount to volunteers via Paypal in order to do a review. If you win anything - keep it. Perhaps this is a solution - but then it's something else I need to manage.

As for listing casinos in the grey zone - we need to list as many as possible mainly to feed the C2O data base that you folks should be using. It's a free tool that gives you information about a casino's status at Casinomeister. If the casino has no review (Accred, GZ or Rogue) it's not going to appear there.

Concerning not announcing these casinos unless they have a rep is a valid point, and I think that this will be a requirement in the future. I just need to emphasize that they are not Baptism by Fire candidates. IN fact, some casinos are ineligible - like this lot.


When I saw your PM I gave a review the best I could, having not played there and knowing I won't. My experience with Jumpman is terrible due to their affiliates constantly spamming and the individual casinos doing nothing, and jumpmans DPO totally ignoring any emails. If a DPO ignores legal requests then good luck getting anywhere if there is a problem when they have your money. There was nothing else I could write, then it sounded as if the one liner I wrote wasn't good enough, but anything else would have just been bluster, as there was nothing else to say.

I don't have an account at Bitstarz, I don't have an account at Fun Casino. The way things are at the moment I rarely sign up at new casinos, as the places I play at now are trustworthy and have all the games I need. Admittedly there are casinos who don't have loads of data that I could review, and will do so, but I'm moving house at the moment so will have to be in a few weeks.

I get where you are going with 'you don't need to play there to give a review' but being honest, theres only so much anyone can say without signing up. You don't really need 20 MM's stating it accepts debit cards, skrill and paypal, has PlaynGo, Netent, Blueprint, site looks ok, UKGC license etc. That can be done by the person who's doing the review. What's important is do they pay quickly without problem, do the games work, does live chat work in the hours stated, do support know what they are doing etc. None of that can be done without signing up and playing. I also get that you want to have as many casinos in the database as possible, so that you can have a full list and where they stand.

For the larger clone groups, where all the casinos are exact clones, use the same support etc, could you not maybe have a group, and have people review from within there, then you have data and as every casino are operated exactly the same, the review can be identical too. For example Aspire Global, they are all 100% identical. They share support, they share back office staff, share payment processing teams, verification teams etc. I'm sure a lot of people will have played at one of their properties at least. You could group them all together and probably get 10 x the reviews you would have by having 50+ casinos all listed separately. If by chance one casino in the group doesn't operate exactly as the others, that would be apparent from the reviews and could be separated if required?

As for Colin, I think his ban is a bit harsh, yes calling Dion a prick was obviously OTT but Colin was clearly frustrated and he was the only one out of everyone who read the thread who actually went to the effort of spending his money and taking the time to properly test the casino and feedback the rubbish experience he had there. Dion's comments haven't exactly been non inflammatory at times, and although I don't think he meant them in the way they were took, I do think they could have been taken wrong. Like this one 'fwiw - id take a handful of Harry's insights over a 100 in many case'. When I read that I thought, well screw you too, just get Harry to do all the reviews, what are you asking anyone else for their opinion for if thats the case? In hindsight I realise thats not what he meant, but on first reading thats how it came across to me. As Col was already frustrated with the casino he was trying out because of this thread, I can completely understand why he would snap. Col's hardly a trouble maker, I don't think I've seen him post anything similar in all the time I've been here. Ultimately, him trying to help earned him a ban, in my view.
 
id take a handful of Harry's insights over a 100 in many case'. When I read that I thought, well screw you too, just get Harry to do all the reviews, what are you asking anyone else for their opinion for if thats the case? In hindsight I realise thats not what he meant,
Apologies. I was complimenting Harry on his breadth of knowledge, not in any way trying to minimize anyone e;lse's insights.
The discussion was Harry felt he hadnt much to offer not having signed up.
It was meant to express his contribution would still be valuable.
 
Apologies. I was complimenting Harry on his breadth of knowledge, not in any way trying to minimize anyone e;lse's insights.
The discussion was Harry felt he hadnt much to offer not having signed up.
It was meant to express his contribution would still be valuable.
I know that, which is why I said in hindsight that you didn't mean it in the way it came across, the point is though, that I took at as having a go at the rest when I first read it, and so did Colin clearly, and when already frustrated by what was happening at Spin Hill, that was only happening because this thread was posted, I think a little leeway could have been applied thats all.
 
... I think a little leeway could have been applied thats all.

After calling a staff member a twat, a shill and a prick? I think not. 2 weeks is giving leeway IMO. Frustrated or not gordie needs to find another way to express himself.
 
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It has been quite a number of days now since I posted my review which consisted a number of factual details which are inconsistant to the important data that we are provided with still if you look at the latest content for this casino
As the only person from the miesters that has bothered to deposit,play through and impart data to that effect I am now feeling more loth to take part as my input seems worthless.It did not even get a like from any mod.
All of that drama from all of those mods and my contribution is ignored despite the person who is responsible for minion data contributions being in here every day for endless hours on end.
And on top of that I have just completed a review of my experience in the latest casino that we have been introduced to!
Why should I bother?
Income orientated.
 
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As it goes I have put a a futher 700 spins over what should have been the conversion to real money at twice the minimum wager. It still shows as bonus money.
I will leave it there for tonight and seek my questions tomorrow.
I play in this casino and the bonus is accumulated. It can never be made in real money. Only if you turn it over the first time, then every subsequent bonus accumulates. It will only be zeroed if you withdraw your real money.It only reset if you withdraw your real money. And it starts to accumulate again, I play in several casinos with this brand and I can responsibly claim that the bonus accumulates and can never be converted to real money.
 
It's f*&^ing easy - you can review casinos without signing up. You can scan their website - see what games they offer, see where they are licensed, see who they are connected to. As an experienced gambler you can make these observances without signing up. You are giving advice to your fellow members and our visitors which we transfer to the review page. To think that signing up is a requirement is quite short sighted in my opinion.

If you don't want to participate in the MMs - just let me know.
In all honesty - I didn’t know you wanted review Too from non-players On the casino’s.

knowing that, I can contribute more
 
In all honesty - I didn’t know you wanted review Too from non-players On the casino’s.

knowing that, I can contribute more
for sure, even good when people point out good (or poor) Ts and Cs, if your country is eligible, site navigation, etc
 

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