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I PMd 12 Meister Minion members in this thread to assist in this - and this is the response I get?
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It's f*&^ing easy - you can review casinos without signing up. You can scan their website - see what games they offer, see where they are licensed, see who they are connected to. As an experienced gambler you can make these observances without signing up. You are giving advice to your fellow members and our visitors which we transfer to the review page. To think that signing up is a requirement is quite short sighted in my opinion.How are you supposed to rate a casino without playing there?
I took part in this thread in good faith and I even attempted to back out of the convo last night but I was met with a reply I felt compelled to respond too.And I am the one who PMd each of the Meister Minion members who are vocal in this thread to PLEASE post their ratings and reviews in the Meister Minion forum so that Dionysus or I can transfer those reviews to the official review page.
Only colinsunderland posted something there - a one sentence review.
Dionysus is the editor/moderator of the MM section, and he was tasked to work on this - and your calling him a shill? WTF??
it's a thread I'm specifically tasked with, so it rather doesI took part in this thread in good faith and I even attempted to back out of the convo last night but I was met with a reply I felt compelled to respond too.
Not all threads needs a "Here's Johnny"
It's f*&^ing easy - you can review casinos without signing up. You can scan their website - see what games they offer, see where they are licensed, see who they are connected to. As an experienced gambler you can make these observances without signing up. You are giving advice to your fellow members and our visitors which we transfer to the review page. To think that signing up is a requirement is quite short sighted in my opinion.
If you don't want to participate in the MMs - just let me know.
That is patently not true and you know it is not.The terms and criteria demand you deposit,play at and withdrawIt's f*&^ing easy - you can review casinos without signing up. You can scan their website - see what games they offer, see where they are licensed, see who they are connected to. As an experienced gambler you can make these observances without signing up. You are giving advice to your fellow members and our visitors which we transfer to the review page. To think that signing up is a requirement is quite short sighted in my opinion.
If you don't want to participate in the MMs - just let me know.
Again. The reader can decide if your intervention and conduct was warranted. I responded to you with restraintit's a thread I'm specifically tasked with, so it rather does
The requirements of a Minion is clearly set out for us and is understood. Just because you may not have specified we stick to those requirements. That email does not change what we understand our requirements to be. But as a side your email reached me long after I had already deposited there with the intention to play and give feedback which is clearly evident in this thread.I'm not asking you to give us payout info - I am asking for a rating - sheesh! Read my PM.
It's f*&^ing easy - you can review casinos without signing up. You can scan their website - see what games they offer, see where they are licensed, see who they are connected to. As an experienced gambler you can make these observances without signing up. You are giving advice to your fellow members and our visitors which we transfer to the review page. To think that signing up is a requirement is quite short sighted in my opinion.
If you don't want to participate in the MMs - just let me know.

Again. The reader can decide if your intervention and conduct was warranted. I responded to you with restraint
I was left totally disheartened by the response that I woke up to yesterday morning.Wow just read this and quite perturbed at the content of this thread. Here we have someone posting about their experience at a casino, as encouraged to do, which in turn appears he was lambasted for - don't bite the hand that feeds you, doesn't bode well or encourage people to become MM's and help CM in the future.
I was left totally disheartened by the response that I woke up to yesterday morning.
I presumed that I would have been supported by senior management but instead all I read was vilification from them.
To be fair after some communication Mr CM was utterly fine with me yesterday. Then Max today,more than 24 hours after the event gives me an infraction which can obviously be used against me as a tool if he desired in future!
I have utter respect for this site and what it stands for.
I have spent one hell of a lot of money losing in the interest of inparting info data for this site.
What reason is there for us to actively get involved either financially,emotionally or both in the health of what is just another site that provides casino content?
Thank you so much for providing me with support in this thread Supa,Goat and Greylady.
I woke up yesterday thinking I must be on my own so I decided to shut my mouth.
Ban me if you wish to Max
I only did it because you did promise me that signed Michael Chopra shirt. I presume that offer's still on the tableI was left totally disheartened by the response that I woke up to yesterday morning.
I presumed that I would have been supported by senior management but instead all I read was vilification from them.
To be fair after some communication Mr CM was utterly fine with me yesterday. Then Max today,more than 24 hours after the event gives me an infraction which can obviously be used against me as a tool if he desired in future!
I have utter respect for this site and what it stands for.
I have spent one hell of a lot of money losing in the interest of inparting info data for this site.
What reason is there for us to actively get involved either financially,emotionally or both in the health of what is just another site that provides casino content?
Thank you so much for providing me with support in this thread Supa,Goat and Greylady.
I woke up yesterday thinking I must be on my own so I decided to shut my mouth.
Ban me if you wish to Max

I was left totally disheartened by the response that I woke up to yesterday morning.
I presumed that I would have been supported by senior management but instead all I read was vilification from them.
To be fair after some communication Mr CM was utterly fine with me yesterday. Then Max today,more than 24 hours after the event gives me an infraction which can obviously be used against me as a tool if he desired in future!
I have utter respect for this site and what it stands for.
I have spent one hell of a lot of money losing in the interest of inparting info data for this site.
What reason is there for us to actively get involved either financially,emotionally or both in the health of what is just another site that provides casino content?
Thank you so much for providing me with support in this thread Supa,Goat and Greylady.
I woke up yesterday thinking I must be on my own so I decided to shut my mouth.
Ban me if you wish to Max
My choppra is still on the table but it is deminishing in its worthI only did it because you did promise me that signed Michael Chopra shirt. I presume that offer's still on the table![]()

I will reply tomorrow to your post but in respect I don't want to digest it all while enjoying spinning at a casino before bedFTR the record I have much sympathy with your position here. I also agree somewhat with what Bryan said but I think there is a general failure to distinguish between the experience and knowledge expected of players and players who are experienced affiliates.
Four years ago I would simply take information on trust and at face value when considering playing at a new casino mentioned on here. Now having affiliate experience too I suppose what Bryan says would apply to me, in that I would be expected to know license details (co-licensees) and a fair bit about whom I am dealing with if I choose to sign up. Plus I know to use the MM info which I must say most of us here have neglected to add much to in the last year or so, including me.
It's reasonable when a forum member here to implicitly trust any site put forward to the membership, and when in the Grey Zone expect them to be checked. I mentioned earlier the aff. programme was bungling to say the least and I did join them 18 months ago just before I myself promoted them. They pay after 48 hours but I dropped them very quickly afterwards when it became apparent they weren't equipped to consistently provide the service one would expect from a casino we would normally play at. As I said, the aff. programme was evidence of this. The team behind them appears to be French although that could just be the people I communicated with.
It's obvious that things haven't improved since I last dealt with them. They aren't dishonest, they will pay in 48 hours after KYC and eventually settled my commission too - it's just they don't seem to have the people and resources to run an effective all-round operation which at this present time means I could not in all honesty recommend them to people here who are invariably used to a far superior CS, Interface and KYC/payments system.
I also believe that any casino posted on here should have a rep on call, grey zone or not. It benefits the players here and likewise provides invaluable feedback to the casino itself if they are genuinely trying to improve themselves, it's mutually beneficial.
I'm not sure it's safe to provide grey zone casinos in the general forum - fair enough if they turn out to be kosher and even end up on board accredited and repped-up, but if they turn to ratshit then people could lose out and it could damage the CM reputation at worst. I think there should be sufficient MM information and date BEFORE they are presented, rather than aggregate that data ex post facto. Just my view peeps...

Keep your chin up young man.
It's not about support but about an objective view of the thread and I seriously could not see what you had done wrong, especially hearing that you were banned, albeit briefly. Sometimes the 'masters' should look closer to home, just because you have staff, they are not always right, which is pretty obvious to an outsider.
pretty much been as participatory when the name was a different colourLast part bang on. It's same mod who seems to thibk he needs to answer to everyone's single post. Which in turn causes these issues.
Not sure why he feels the need to be so active in responding to everything when it clearly doesn't require a staff response.
pretty much been as participatory when the name was a different colour
you know like most active members;
youd pretty much only know if I'Im responding or participating in threads if you happen to be in those threads as well so I fail to see the problem there.
got a beef? you know who runs the site
click here, > @Casinomeister
oh? and ftr? I've never laid a warning or infraction..EVER.. not even ONCE, so you can take that up with them; pretty certain they're aware how and why issues arise and who the general culprits are.
Me? I've been here 10 years and havent received one.


and again, you know who to reach out to so let's get back on track.I'd suspect it means I'm, and others, are familiar with the posring rules.
If you feel otherwise, you know who to reach out to
hint: he's the big boss
Everyone can complain about my modding all they want. The fact is I get reports, it's my responsivility to respond to them, and what...999% of the time it's 'please keep it civil'.
I'm such an ogre.
as for participating? Like..everyone does? Well, yeah, I like participating. And people participate back.
But it's all really here nor there.
I'd say let's all keep it to the thread topic at hand and if anyone has any issues, they know how to reach the upper staff.
Otherwise this will just likely get binned or closed.
What a worthwhile contribution to this given the context of what has been posted during the last 24 hours or so
You derailed itand again, you know who to reach out to so let's get back on track.
Thanks
You derailed it
and again, you know who to reach out to so let's get back on track.
Thanks
A prickYou do come across as very antagonistic in some of your posts in this thread in particular.
aaand we're done hereA prick


Well. This thread I'm afraid stems from some misunderstandings and miscommunications, mostly on my part.
I think what I was trying to imply earlier was that it was clear to me that a number of MMs had experiences with this casino, as well as others, and I was hoping that these experiences would be added in the Meister Minion rating forums. This way I (or Dionysus) could transfer those comments to the official reviews.
The Casinomeister reviews are essential here - they are NOT just my opinions, but YOURS. Many Meister Minions are playing at loads of casinos - posting experiences here, but not in the MM section which eventually end up in the official reviews.
Examples:
Here we have a number of MMs participating:
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Bitstarz has none:
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Fun Casino has none:
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And I am sure there are a number of Minions - at least five of you - that have accounts there and that could offer a valid opinion.
I certainly don't expect people to deposit on my behalf to do a review.
What I may do is send x amount to volunteers via Paypal in order to do a review. If you win anything - keep it. Perhaps this is a solution - but then it's something else I need to manage.
As for listing casinos in the grey zone - we need to list as many as possible mainly to feed the C2O data base that you folks should be using. It's a free tool that gives you information about a casino's status at Casinomeister. If the casino has no review (Accred, GZ or Rogue) it's not going to appear there.
Concerning not announcing these casinos unless they have a rep is a valid point, and I think that this will be a requirement in the future. I just need to emphasize that they are not Baptism by Fire candidates. IN fact, some casinos are ineligible - like this lot.
Omg sorry but what a jobsworthI warned you. Enjoy your vacation.

Apologies. I was complimenting Harry on his breadth of knowledge, not in any way trying to minimize anyone e;lse's insights.id take a handful of Harry's insights over a 100 in many case'. When I read that I thought, well screw you too, just get Harry to do all the reviews, what are you asking anyone else for their opinion for if thats the case? In hindsight I realise thats not what he meant,
I know that, which is why I said in hindsight that you didn't mean it in the way it came across, the point is though, that I took at as having a go at the rest when I first read it, and so did Colin clearly, and when already frustrated by what was happening at Spin Hill, that was only happening because this thread was posted, I think a little leeway could have been applied thats all.Apologies. I was complimenting Harry on his breadth of knowledge, not in any way trying to minimize anyone e;lse's insights.
The discussion was Harry felt he hadnt much to offer not having signed up.
It was meant to express his contribution would still be valuable.
... I think a little leeway could have been applied thats all.
I play in this casino and the bonus is accumulated. It can never be made in real money. Only if you turn it over the first time, then every subsequent bonus accumulates. It will only be zeroed if you withdraw your real money.It only reset if you withdraw your real money. And it starts to accumulate again, I play in several casinos with this brand and I can responsibly claim that the bonus accumulates and can never be converted to real money.As it goes I have put a a futher 700 spins over what should have been the conversion to real money at twice the minimum wager. It still shows as bonus money.
I will leave it there for tonight and seek my questions tomorrow.
In all honesty - I didn’t know you wanted review Too from non-players On the casino’s.It's f*&^ing easy - you can review casinos without signing up. You can scan their website - see what games they offer, see where they are licensed, see who they are connected to. As an experienced gambler you can make these observances without signing up. You are giving advice to your fellow members and our visitors which we transfer to the review page. To think that signing up is a requirement is quite short sighted in my opinion.
If you don't want to participate in the MMs - just let me know.
for sure, even good when people point out good (or poor) Ts and Cs, if your country is eligible, site navigation, etcIn all honesty - I didn’t know you wanted review Too from non-players On the casino’s.
knowing that, I can contribute more
