Never win on online slots

[dionysus]

It's 530am so I can't be arsed to dig myself, but this was actually addressed this week I think if you're keen on digging, but a nicer member might post a link

 

[mrmark21]

Well nifty you're far from that... Giving me the wrong information. Very useful

I played Jackpot City again tonight, gave me a good four hours playing off a forty dollar deposit. I didn't win anything, but am still happy. Got my moneys worth of playing time

Jackpot City quoted me the highest RTP rate out of all three, Intercasino wouldn't give me a straight answer, they sent me a document containing all this writing, which I couldn't be bothered reading.

I'm sticking to Jackpot City.

 

[dionysus]

Enjoy. Same rtp but whatever floats your boat

 

[mrmark21]

Enjoy. Same rtp but whatever floats your boat

Actually not the same RTP rate, what you're saying is over the long run and an average over all players (you could be dramatically lower than that). Anyway as I said Jackpot City quoted me the highest RTP rate at 87% which is obviously much higher than the 59% at 32 Red. Plus the games gave me tons of features. Beats no features at 32 Red.

Thanks though, i will.

 

[dionysus]

Fine, don't educate yourself to slots, that's your right. But why come here if you really can't be arsed to listen to what people tell you. The rtp at any one micro gaming is the sme as any other you go to. Just because currently one casino has a higher rtp read: they've currently paid out or lost more at this given moment, has zero relation as to whether you will win more or less at any given moment. But again, maybe ignorance is bliss. I'm sure though, when you lose next, we will all hear about it.

 

[Nifty29]

Enjoy. Same rtp but whatever floats your boat

Captain Cautious says,

"Don't take sweets from men in Canadian lycra bodysuits with a cauliflower down their pants"



Mark...your RTP will fluctuate wildly as you play but will level out over time.

Measuring your RTP over one session or even over a few days is a waste of time. Even on a 99.9% TRTP game you could still be running at 60% over a few sessions.

For instance, jackpot city has the exact same TRTP as 32Red. Hence, you will experience the same bad streaks.

Casinos do not, and practically cannot, set TRTP on a per player basis. Besides being a nightmare to actually run and needing extra staff and extra cost, they don't NEED to do it. It makes no difference WHO wins or when, as the games are designed to provide a % profit based on wagering.....who wagers what makes no difference.

You're saying you understand what random means, and yet you insist that 32Red is rigged because what happened to you "can't happen if it is random"......which proves you actually don't understand randomness at all. Random = anything can happen....and will.

 

[dionysus]

What he said and lol @ cauliflower

 

[mrmark21]

Fine, don't educate yourself to slots, that's your right. But why come here if you really can't be arsed to listen to what people tell you. The rtp at any one micro gaming is the sme as any other you go to. Just because currently one casino has a higher rtp read: they've currently paid out or lost more at this given moment, has zero relation as to whether you will win more or less at any given moment. But again, maybe ignorance is bliss. I'm sure though, when you lose next, we will all hear about it.

Lol no reason to get all defensive...

Here we go again: randomness, random number generator. Fact of the matter is 32 Red never gave me a feature, ever. You're right about the RTP and when that happens I'll change online casinos again, however players rely on the features for a cash out, so maybe the RTP is the same but I'd never be able to cash out at 32 Red.

I came here to complain, hence my first ever post, don't really care to post much of anything else. The decision to post a complaint is mine, it was you're decision to read it... so how about just not reading complaints since they seem to put you in such a mood?

 

[dionysus]

Uh, as its your decision to post, as it is mine to respond, you can't dictate what others post after you

 

[mrmark21]

Captain Cautious says,

"Don't take sweets from men in Canadian lycra bodysuits with a cauliflower down their pants"



Mark...your RTP will fluctuate wildly as you play but will level out over time.

Measuring your RTP over one session or even over a few days is a waste of time. Even on a 99.9% TRTP game you could still be running at 60% over a few sessions.

For instance, jackpot city has the exact same TRTP as 32Red. Hence, you will experience the same bad streaks.

Casinos do not, and practically cannot, set TRTP on a per player basis. Besides being a nightmare to actually run and needing extra staff and extra cost, they don't NEED to do it. It makes no difference WHO wins or when, as the games are designed to provide a % profit based on wagering.....who wagers what makes no difference.

You're saying you understand what random means, and yet you insist that 32Red is rigged because what happened to you "can't happen if it is random"......which proves you actually don't understand randomness at all. Random = anything can happen....and will.

So you're telling me that you would continue to play a game after depositing over $10,000.00 and never making a withdrawal? That would be random not rigged? Less we forget random means anything can happen. Ignorance is bliss.

So the information you gave me earlier was completely wrong? So helpful

 

[mrmark21]

Uh, as its your decision to post, as it is mine to respond, you can't dictate what others post after you

Lol never said I could... You said "I'm sure next time you have a complaint we will all hear about it". Sounded to me like you dread reading complaints, what I'm saying (perhaps try re-reading my post) is that it's you're decision to read them, just as it's my decision to post them. You don't like reading them, so don't.

Simple, anyways now all we are doing is walking around in circles talking about randomness. I do have a question since everything is random at these online casinos... How would you know when a rogue casino was rigging the games to steal you're money? Apart from this fantastic website.

 

[mrmark21]

Any takers Dionysurs or Nifty? Hmmm guess not.

 

[Borgie]

It's rigged I tells ya!!

RIGGED!!!!

It's just you.

Casinos can set RTP on a per player basis, and it seems thats what they've done here.

Awful business it is.

These are called Irony!!, Nifty did not mean it is actually rigged or that they can set RTP on a per player basis !!!! Surely you realise that would be totally impossible.

Captain Cautious says,

"Don't take sweets from men in Canadian lycra bodysuits with a cauliflower down their pants"



Mark...your RTP will fluctuate wildly as you play but will level out over time.

Measuring your RTP over one session or even over a few days is a waste of time. Even on a 99.9% TRTP game you could still be running at 60% over a few sessions.

For instance, jackpot city has the exact same TRTP as 32Red. Hence, you will experience the same bad streaks.

Casinos do not, and practically cannot, set TRTP on a per player basis. Besides being a nightmare to actually run and needing extra staff and extra cost, they don't NEED to do it. It makes no difference WHO wins or when, as the games are designed to provide a % profit based on wagering.....who wagers what makes no difference.

You're saying you understand what random means, and yet you insist that 32Red is rigged because what happened to you "can't happen if it is random"......which proves you actually don't understand randomness at all. Random = anything can happen....and will.

This is factual and the truth !! Nifty is totally on the Mark


Bottom line is just take your ball and play elsewhere. 32 Red is a brilliant casino , you are just on a run of bad luck, not helped by high variance but you don't have to play there. It's called choice , your money , your choice. But if you are off to another MG casino they are all the same TRTP as 32 Red , not all of them have the same level of service though. No point playing there though if you are not happy !!

 

[bigbear]

I really think you have just had a bad run.I recently played through £100 on the 32Red slots,played a number of different ones and got features on most of them and ended with a £400 profit.We have all probably experienced bad beats so hopefully your luck will change.

 

[Nifty29]

So you're telling me that you would continue to play a game after depositing over $10,000.00 and never making a withdrawal? That would be random not rigged? Less we forget random means anything can happen. Ignorance is bliss.

So the information you gave me earlier was completely wrong? So helpful

Would I continue to play a game (I assume you mean a single game) after losing $10k? Probably not, but it would have nothing to do with whether I thought the game was random. I would have done my research before depositing a cent.

I knew a guy here who became convinced that RTG games were rigged to high heaven. He hit 3 Random Jackpots totalling over $50k in a couple of weeks (2 in one week IIRC), at which point he thought that RTG was awesome, and continued to play and play until he had lost the lot and then some.....after which point he shouted "Rigged" (and yet continued to play ) and made it a personal crusade to prove it. He never did, and ended up being banned for chargebacks.

What happened is that he was EXTREMELY lucky in a short period. He then kept on playing and playing at higher and higher stakes expecting that amazing streak to happen again. It didn't. His demise had nothing to do with the games being rigged. The issue was that his expectations were skewed and his cashout threshold increased so that when he reached an amount that most of us would cashout at, and he would previously had cashed out at, he just kept upping the bets to win that "big one".

If you're going to play casino games, you need to have a PLAN and stick to it like glue. Have a cashout level fixed, and withdraw every time you reach it whilst leaving a few bucks to keep going.

The question is....have you ever seen anything playing slots that CANNOT possibly happen on a random game?

 

[mrmark21]

Yeah true. Except for one common occurrence, like when for example you've sat at a machine played note after note, then just as you're about to get off the machine, you take you're lines down to one and surprise surprise you either get the feature or a line hit and end up with nothing. That seems common.

I'm not convinced all online casinos are rigged, I just think there seems to be a serious problem with my account at 32 Red. Intercasino not so bad, just a little shady. Jackpot City lots of features and playtime That's what I want and got neither at 32 Red. I know other people have won there and that's fantastic, I just cant seem to get a feature to save my life unless it's on bonus money, then features galore come up. Could possibly be a run of bad luck, but that kind of bad luck (every gambler has some bad luck to a degree) has never happened to me before so why would I continue playing at that online casino?

See that's not smart. I won $300.00 at Jackpot City (I'm a low roller) and chose to put the money back in, I can admit that and would still play there because at least I've won there. I'm not on a crusade to prove anything, my opinion is my opinion I've just decided to voice it. I always have a plan when playing the slots, my plan is to get lots of features, i like the fun of the game and will withdrawal once I'm bored or maybe get a big win say $200.00 which has happened quite a few times at land based casinos, however if the win never comes I'll just be happy with all the features, knowing I chose to put the little wins back in... I like the slots but there is nothing fun when you cant get a feature to save you're life. Not one single feature.

P.s. Anyways, I'm kinda over talking about this, I've voiced MY opinion and am starting to get a little bored now. I'll try some other casinos like many of you mentioned, but will probably just stick to Jackpot City. Thanks for the help.

 

[Vegasbum]

Yes the answer is right in front of you...just play at Jackpot City. That is why there are different casinos online so you have a choice where you play. Simple solution.

One question though. You said in your last response:
"I always have a plan when playing the slots, my plan is to get lots of features"

How do you plan to get features?

 

[richie]

I actually got 5 free spin features in a row on Avalon last night. Which was the kind of randomness I like. But I was only betting 1p coin size & 9 lines at the time. I wish I had some psychic power which told me when something like that was going to happen.

 

[pianoman]

I hate 32RED. Hate ... Hate ... HATE .......

No I don't.

Just kiddin'... If they hadn't gone and bought Golden Lounge - well, I probly would never have seen this, would I?






Truth is, I can hardly think of a good reason to play any where that isn't part of the 32RED setup.
If you're worried about rogues, scoundrels, slow pay or out to get ya tactics -
you'll not find 'em at 32Red, Dash, Golden Lounge and Nedplay.

Excuse me, I better get back to the game!
just had to tell you about this one..........

 

[Slotster!]

No I don't.

Just kiddin'... If they hadn't gone and bought Golden Lounge - well, I probly would never have seen this, would I?

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Truth is, I can hardly think of a good reason to play any where that isn't part of the 32RED setup.
If you're worried about rogues, scoundrels, slow pay or out to get ya tactics -
you'll not find 'em at 32Red, Dash, Golden Lounge and Nedplay.

Excuse me, I better get back to the game!
just had to tell you about this one..........

Ha ha - wow. When those two Wilds hit on either side of the centre - you couldn't lose! Perfect hit... (Well, almost )

 

[dionysus]

If it were mine, I'd get the scatter in there, knocking out a nice line hit lol

 

[pianoman]

ME AGAIN....

Sorry to hog the limelight (...wonder why they call it that?)
But look what else turned up about an hour after posting the earlier pics !!!

(Interesting to note the Coin Size on these?)
I mean, we're all passionately pursuing free spins - chasing the magic doublers, triplers etc, Right?
But I'm finding of late that my one cent lines deliver bigger surprises from freebies, than the max bet think-you-got-it-made free spins, where so often the outcome is absolutely pitiful.
Reckon I'll spend a week level staking a few favourite games at just the one cent.

Anyhow... Pretty fancy Free Spin round here - 35 spins to start,
got four more birds along the way for another 25 free, then 3 more before my spins were done - 80 in all.
Added $286 taking bal to $980.



Just as well, I was still playing out the full $25 bonus WR.
Things turned sour after those IR wilds - got a bit excited and started to bet max.
Went down a few hundred pretty smartly ( IR went Dead Cold, it did )
so switched over to Isis. Never a real kind lady that one.

Today was different. WD $850

Thank you kindly, your majesty :notworthy

 

[dionysus]

Wtg
The coin size really doesn't play any part....30 cents or 3 bucks, it's random, about the only difference is smaller bets buy you more spins on a bankroll

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[Brooklyn]

Captain Cautioussays,

"Don't take sweets from men in Canadian lycra bodysuits with a cauliflower down their pants"

I'll take a few spins on the Captain Cautious slot. Maybe I will max bet and try for the jackpot. Is it rigged? Jay, what's your RTP? Captain Canada max payout? Welcome bonus? Free spins ? Wilds ?

Judging from that pic, I've already seen the bonus feature.



/derail


Here is what doesn't make ANY sense to me.

You think it's rigged but keep on depositing

You are trying to prove a point (which will never fly here, 32Red is one of the most respected casinos online, thousands of players can't be wrong)..or you just don't get it.

Random is just that, random.

If your RTP is low, try different games, try another casino, try your local land casino. Many o' members have given you great advice but you keep saying the same thing over and over; It's rigged.

If I thought a casino was rigged my account would be closed. I wouldn't keep feeding them my money.


Just my $.12, I wish you the best of luck.

 

[dreamguardian1]

Its all on luck really. I have won tons of money and lost lots of money, lately Buzzluck been going downhill on lucky but its the way things go. Pick your slots, there are so many variables. I am fairly lucky at anything, but i do bet a lot but not enough that its going to break my bank so to speak. And i cashout when i have good winnings, and I never rebet with what i have won over $200.00 yes its superstituous but hell id rather win the money and cashout than lose everything. Hang in there and find a reputable casino that you can actually win once in a while on.