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Kiss Casino Ripped me OFF

Discussion in 'Online Casino and Poker Complaints - old section' started by lacypuff, Oct 26, 2004.

    Oct 26, 2004
  1. lacypuff

    lacypuff Dormant account

    Location:
    Evansville, IN
    I gambled on Kiss Casino and now they are unwilling to pay me my winnings. I won $8000 dollars at blackjack and now they are saying they are not obligated to pay. They are saying this AFTER I received an email that stating my certification for withdraws was approved. They state that since I am 19, they do not have to pay my winnings. However, they sure accepted $900 dollars from me with no problems, even though Im 19. If anyone could help with this issue, please let me know. All other players beware that they are dishonest and cheat their players out of the money they rightfully deserve. Im going to be placing this on every message board that I can find to show that they are frauds!!!!!!! Im also going to be starting a website You must register/login in order to see the link.. This will be up and running by tomorrow evening, 10/26/2004. God Bless America for Freedom of Speech!!!! Please contact me for my user name by sending me a email at This email is not visible to you..

    Thank you,
    Andrew Hurt
     
  2. Oct 26, 2004
  3. Macgyver

    Macgyver Dormant account PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    North Carolina
    Interesting because this is what they have to say about players' age in their T&C:

    Now, I guess that depends on they define as "legal majority." Being that you list Indiana as your home, is it 18 when you can vote, smoke cigarettes and enlist in the armed forces? Or 21 when you can drink alcohol?

    You might try Montana disputes for this one ...

    EDIT: How about this little tidbit in their T&C as well??!?

    :eek: :eek2:
     
    Last edited: Oct 26, 2004
  4. Oct 26, 2004
  5. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

    Occupation:
    Senior Partner, InfoPowa News Service
    Location:
    Earth
    These Giant Vegas and Kiss Casino people have appeared here before on player complaints - there are management contact email addresses in the other thread.

    I would try arguing the age of majority case with the top man, a guy called Brian Goodman in Australia. I think the group name is Vegas Magic Group. If that is unproductive I would go the Montana Overseas route.

    Grateful if you would keep us advised here.
     
  6. Oct 26, 2004
  7. jerseyguy11

    jerseyguy11 Dormant account

    Location:
    new jersey
    yeah, the manager (or owner) of kiss casino is listed on this thread. i forget her name though. do a search on this forums for "kiss casino" and read a complaint by dirk diggler called "kiss casino trying to pinch... from me". I believe she responded on that thread.

    Try contacting her. If that doesnt work, you could try montana or pitching a bitch on here.

    As far as the 19yrs old thing goes, its nonsense. Anything over 18 is fine. They took your bets and you won. You are not 12 years old, your 19. They must pay you.
     
  8. Oct 26, 2004
  9. Dirk Diggler

    Dirk Diggler Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Company Secretary
    Location:
    UK
    The lady in question who was posting a while back is a girl who's username is Cj. (don't forget the dot).

    I beleive she was the affiliate manager or something similar - her email is This email is not visible to you.

    Good luck :thumbsup:
     
  10. Oct 27, 2004
  11. sw2003

    sw2003 Dormant account

    Location:
    somewhere :)
    I don't think her interventions of matter on this board have been that impressive. :)
     
  12. Oct 27, 2004
  13. nafanny29

    nafanny29 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    financail adviser
    Location:
    London, England
    Ive seen a good few excuses by shady casinos not to pay winners but this really takes the pi$$.

    If he entered his date of birth when registering and then they allowed a deposit then WTF right have they got to deny him his winnings. If that was me I would seek out their office and do something illegal and im not joking.
     
  14. Oct 27, 2004
  15. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

    Occupation:
    Senior Partner, InfoPowa News Service
    Location:
    Earth
    I agree - go to the top here and try Brian Goodman - his address is in that thread somewhere.

    If that doesn't work post here and lay a dispute with Montana.
     
  16. Oct 27, 2004
  17. lacypuff

    lacypuff Dormant account

    Location:
    Evansville, IN
    Kisscasinosucks.com is now operational!!!!

    I just wanted everyone here to know the web site You must register/login in order to see the link. is now operational. I documented my situation with their casino. If anyone else would like to post their experience with Kiss Casino please send me a email at This email is not visible to you.. I will also be contacting Mr. Goodman and have sent an email to CJ.

    Thanks
    Andrew
     
  18. Oct 27, 2004
  19. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

    Occupation:
    Senior Partner, InfoPowa News Service
    Location:
    Earth
    If you have already done this, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Goodman to cooperate with you anytime soon. It may have been better to attempt a resolution before trashing them. This may cause difficulties with a Montana complaint, too. But...it's your money and your business.
     
  20. Oct 27, 2004
  21. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    Don't think this will do you any good. In fact, every casino operator out there reading this knows that you are considered a "minor" in the state of Indiana.

    Sorry dude, says so here:
    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    When you signed up at the casino, you certified that you were of legal age, didn't you? Yeah, I know, it sucks. You can go to Iraq and get your legs blown off, but you can't play at kiss casino (or any other casino for that matter). You should have checked into this before hand.

    Some of the other young members out there may want to check into this as well.

    At least they are willing to give you your deposit back :D
     
  22. Oct 27, 2004
  23. gfkostas

    gfkostas Ex-Bonus Whore

    Occupation:
    IT
    Location:
    UK
    Would they have given back his deposit had he lost? They would have never said:Although you played with us and lost we will return your deposit because we shouldn't have allowed you to play in the first place.The problem arised only when he won.It's like saying:I will let you lose your money but you ain't got no chance to get paid if you win.Ridiculous!!!.Kiss casino you better off kissing your casino bum :puke:


    *apologize for the foul language*
     
    Last edited: Oct 27, 2004
  24. Oct 27, 2004
  25. Macgyver

    Macgyver Dormant account PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    North Carolina
    That answers my question exactly ...

    From that link Bryan provided:

    Hence lacypuff not "being of the age of legal majority" as Kiss requires.

    However, what about the other piece (about players who post on boards about Kiss may have their winnings taken) from their T&C I posted?

    Way to go, Bryan! :notworthy :thumbsup:
     
    Last edited: Oct 27, 2004
  26. Oct 27, 2004
  27. lacypuff

    lacypuff Dormant account

    Location:
    Evansville, IN
    Dispute Claim

    I'm unable to fill out a disputed claim, because I'm under 21. This is crap.

    Andrew Hurt
     
  28. Oct 27, 2004
  29. lacypuff

    lacypuff Dormant account

    Location:
    Evansville, IN
    Kiss Casino Sucks.com

    I have taken the web page down and am going to first wait on a reply from Mr. Goodman. If I do not hear of anything then I will be reposting the web site. I read through the Montanta's claims dispute form and it states you have to be 21 to submit a claim. Which of course I'm not therefore, I do not know how I can use them as a way to communicate.

    Andrew Hurt
     
  30. Oct 27, 2004
  31. lacypuff

    lacypuff Dormant account

    Location:
    Evansville, IN
    Kiss Casino situation

    Their terms and Conditions states, By using the Games software, Players agree to be bound by the following:
    1. Player is the age of legal majority in the jurisdiction in which Player resides.

    Being 19 in Indiana gives you the right to do the following: buy lottery tickets, play bingo, buy cigarettes, play internet based games, and die for your country. The Terms and Conditions does NOT state, That the players age is the legal majority for gambling or casinos in which the jurisdiction in which the Player resides. After talking to the Customer Support Center they are stating that is an assumption.

    Andrew Hurt
     
  32. Oct 27, 2004
  33. Dirk Diggler

    Dirk Diggler Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Company Secretary
    Location:
    UK
    I agree - they should never have accepted his application for an account and deposit in the 1st place.

    Surely it would make more sense to auto-lock new players accounts under a certain age (i.e. 21) until it is known whether it is legal to gamble in the jurisdiction they live.

    lacypuff - you could always get an underage friend to join them, lose $8K and then demand it back if that would make you feel any better ;) (actually that would be a very interesting experiment to see if they do stand by their terms.)
     
  34. Oct 27, 2004
  35. chuchu59

    chuchu59 gambling addict CAG PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    EXECUTIVE
    Location:
    SOMEWHERE IN ASIA
    Agreed Bryan,except for that last sentence. I think it is a must that the deposit should be returned,not whether they are willing to otherwise it will mean they can forfeit your deposit anytime once they prove that you have not complied with their Ts and Cs. Talk about the benevolence from the casino.
     
  36. Oct 27, 2004
  37. lacypuff

    lacypuff Dormant account

    Location:
    Evansville, IN
    Kiss Casino

    The terms and conditions never states anything about minors........

    Andrew Hurt
     
  38. Oct 27, 2004
  39. Macgyver

    Macgyver Dormant account PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    North Carolina
    Sure it does, I didn't make up either quote in my first post.

    Here's the link for you:

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    Scroll down a little and you can't miss the #1.

    Plus, you even quote the T&C about minors in one of your posts above! C'mon now, don't contradict yourself.
     
    Last edited: Oct 27, 2004

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