intercasino free flight offer not honoured

[spearmaster]

when we consider that each individual victim here is being robbed of around $ 1,500 it is hard to see how intercasino cannot get rogued or at least come with a warning here at casinomeister.com

The Casinomeister himself has damaged his credibility with his vicious attack on one of the victims .

I think you are out of order. Intercasino did not willfully engage with a third-party provider for the purpose of cheating players. They engaged TLC because they thought it was a good incentive for players.

Said "victim" claimed that Intercasino defrauded him. This clearly is not the case.

If RyanH can apologise then perhaps the casinomeister can too. Perhaps for the sake of restoring some credibility casinomeister.com should sever it's cosy links with intercasino

Irrelevant, and uncalled for. RyanH may apologize, and in my opinion he will try to find some way to make it up to the players affected - but this again has nothing to do with Casinomeister.

I don't know why some of you out there think that Casinomeister - or any other long-time members with any reputation - has any obligation to you - the site is here as a source of good online gambling information as well as providing a forum where all of you have the right to express an opinion - but many of these accusations go right into personal attacks which are unjustified.

If you don't like it here, or you don't like the way you think you're being treated, there are plenty of other places to go. Everyone is welcome here - but, unlike the Hotel California, you can check out any time you like AND you can always leave. No one is forcing you to stay.

 

[kavaman]

The casino offered the promotion, they should somehow honor it or atleast reimburse the players who wanted the flights for some amount in $$$ to their casino accounts.
Also there should be a rough estimate on the airport "taxes" , before even sending the flight claim vouchers. Around 1400$ sounds ridiculous. Thats like the full cost of the flight, not "just" the taxes.
It really is not the players fault if the casino made a deal with a 3rd party operator and the 3rd party operator failed to deliver the "product".

-kavaman

 

[eichmann]

spearmaster said -"I don't know why some of you out there think that Casinomeister - or any other long-time members with any reputation - has any obligation to you "

really spearmaster ? the fact that this site claims to be a casino watchdog combined with the fact that the casinomeister claims to be the "independant" arbitrator for disputes involving intercasino would appear to make him 100% obligated. His initial personal attack on one of the victims could be excused as a genuine error. His silence since then has been a disgrace .

 

[maxd]

the fact that this site claims to be a casino watchdog combined with the fact that the casinomeister claims to be the "independant" arbitrator for disputes involving intercasino would appear to make him 100% obligated.

If I may I think Spear is pointing out the difference between being _available_ to help players with problems and being _obligated_ to help them.

Yes, we are generally speaking here to help players out. However is someone is rude or nasty to deal with or a chronic PITA we are under no _obligation_ whatsoever to continue our relationship with them.

His initial personal attack on one of the victims could be excused as a genuine error. His silence since then has been a disgrace .

See above. You might also want to have a look at A message from Casinomeister before you continue shooting off your mouth about B's "silence".

 

[j_l]

There is no such thing as a free flight anymore.

All these companies offering free flights should definitely re-word their offers. Airport taxes and security charges are generally much higher than the actual fare.

Take this for an example:

Source: www.ba.com - 22 August 2008 07:50hrs

25SEP08 HEATHROW to LOS ANGELES / BA0283
16OCT08 LOS ANGELESM to HEATHROW / BA0282

Price: 46.00 + (and it's a BIG plus) 312.50 AIRPORT TAXES

Don't EVER fall for these free flight offers. They are a joke, unless taxes and securities are included.

 

[spearmaster]

spearmaster said -"I don't know why some of you out there think that Casinomeister - or any other long-time members with any reputation - has any obligation to you "

really spearmaster ? the fact that this site claims to be a casino watchdog combined with the fact that the casinomeister claims to be the "independant" arbitrator for disputes involving intercasino would appear to make him 100% obligated. His initial personal attack on one of the victims could be excused as a genuine error. His silence since then has been a disgrace .

You don't pay anything to visit this site, in fees or charges - there is no contract between you and the site, or Casinomeister himself, and thus it is quite clear that neither he nor the site is under any obligation to you.

The independent arbitration service is not at issue here - in fact I don't even know whether this still exists or not - but Casinomeister (the site) is not the place to start an open discussion if indeed the player ever requested the services of an independent arbitrator.

As I have pointed out before, you are under no obligation to visit the site, and neither the site nor the management of the site have any obligation to you at any time unless otherwise agreed by both sides.

 

[vinylweatherman]

There is no such thing as a free flight anymore.

All these companies offering free flights should definitely re-word their offers. Airport taxes and security charges are generally much higher than the actual fare.

Take this for an example:

Source: www.ba.com - 22 August 2008 07:50hrs

25SEP08 HEATHROW to LOS ANGELES / BA0283
16OCT08 LOS ANGELESM to HEATHROW / BA0282

Price: 46.00 + (and it's a BIG plus) 312.50 AIRPORT TAXES

Don't EVER fall for these free flight offers. They are a joke, unless taxes and securities are included.

I have just tried UK to Australia, and the "extras" come to HALF the total price - this does NOT get them off the hook, as one Australian player claimed that the charges alone through this offer came to more than the TOTAL FARE bookable directly through an airline website, whereas these examples suggest charges should be no more than HALF the total charge for the flights, so if a player is quoted $1500 directly, they should pay around half this by using this offer, so it looks like other charges are being created in order to deter Australians from flying to the USA. WE have already been told that the US charges minimal airport fees, and the largest single charge seems to be the FUEL surcharge, which is probably the "trick" that TLC are using - adding the fuel surcharge, but only after DOUBLING it first.

 

[Rhyzz]

Just seems like a great big cock up to me!

Lets hope companies as big as Inter learn to stop using 3rd party companies and do a little bit or legwork themselves in the future. It's not hard to book a flight!

 

[eichmann]

The crap spearmaster is spewing about how no one with a grievance should post here as the casinomeister has no obligations. I think he would be well suited for working for TLC and telling the intercasino customers that despite qualifying for the free flight neither intercasino nor TLC feel any obligation to honour the deal.

 

[mojo]

The crap spearmaster is spewing about how no one with a grievance should post here as the casinomeister has no obligations. I think he would be well suited for working for TLC and telling the intercasino customers that despite qualifying for the free flight neither intercasino nor TLC feel any obligation to honour the deal.

I understand your anger with the flight situation eichmann. It's not CM's fault or anyone here that your flight was not forthcoming. Please take a deep breath. Maybe have a friend look over your posts to critique. No need to use words like 'crap' and 'spewing'. While CM is a helpful site, there is no excuse for this language. In other words, no one here has an obligation to listen to it if you put it that way. You now owe an apolgy to Spearmaster.

 

[maxd]

Eichmann has been notified that he's crossed the line this time. We'll soon see if he's willing to respect the Forum Rules here or not.

 

[spearmaster]

The crap spearmaster is spewing about how no one with a grievance should post here as the casinomeister has no obligations. I think he would be well suited for working for TLC and telling the intercasino customers that despite qualifying for the free flight neither intercasino nor TLC feel any obligation to honour the deal.

And where did I say that no one with a grievance should post here?

And where did I say TLC has no obligation to honor the deal?

You said that CM has an obligation to players, and I said he doesn't and that he does not owe anyone anything. Plain and simple.

Please stop putting words in my mouth. TLC should be required to honor the obligation according to the terms and conditions.

Herr Eichmann, you are coming across like a person with no concern for anyone but himself, and the "players" you claim to represent/speak for. Like a few others over the years, you only appear when it's to your own advantage, and fade quickly into the sunset once you've gotten what you came for, regardless of whether others that you previously spoken for have received what they came for.

So save your vitriol for someplace else - I'm not the least bit interested.

 

[chuchu59]

Spear,

Frankly, I dont think you need to respond to this rude person anymore. Spend your time preparing for your next visit to Hong Kong/Macau. He called you crap. Personally I think you will vouch for crab here instead.

 

[spearmaster]

Spear,
Frankly, I dont think you need to respond to this rude person anymore. Spend your time preparing for your next visit to Hong Kong/Macau. He called you crap. Personally I think you will vouch for crab here instead.

Haha... I am planning already - or rather Simmo is already planning. But that's in November - there is of course a good possibility that I will be there well before then - we've missed out on seeing you the last two times so this time we gotta make it work somehow!