Andre: the ones you have been requesting $3,000 in free chip/QUOTE]
then this
mysticjoz: hello andre,, no agreement in my email yet.
mysticjoz: andre for days now again you have given me the run around, i don't know why i even gave you this chance when I can recoup the whole $1800.00 (that was bank deposits)
Andre: at least we keep the click2pay account
Andre: go away
Andre: I don't wanna see you ever again
Chat session has been terminated by the site operator
This clearly shows Andre admitting he was not paying the click2pay amounts and he he knew it!
Now as far as Chris "being manager" or "how he got involved" lets to to the thread HE started "
Coolcat-New Management
Hello Everyone,
This is Christopher DiAngelo. Most of you know me as the Prism, Slots of Vegas and VIP Lounge Manager. I wanted to get in touch with you all to let you know that I have recently taken over Coolcat Casino as well, and I very much look forward to helping all of you Coolcat Players have a better experience online than you ever have before. I hope to get a chance to speak with all of you and encourage you to contact me in there is anything that you need from us here. My new email for Coolcat is
manager@coolcatcasino.com.
I have listed the casinos for you below...
Bet Royal Casino
Cirrus Casino
Club Player Casino
Coolcat Casino
Palace of Chance Casino
Prism Casino
Slots of Vegas Casino
VIP Lounge Casino
Virtual Casino
The above is What got Chris involved to begin with....then Reynier replied with this
hope Chris follows up his own rules and refunds me my almost 2k in deposits I made with the Palace of Chance.. In the end I ended up cashing out 1k.. I'm wondering what he's going to do there.. Approving my cashout because it's less then my deposits and therefor cheaper for him??? If he does so I will post it here and he will have to pay out everyboy's winnigs...
I hope though he refunds my deposits here.. Though I feel like he won't..
(not picking on you Reynier Just trying to point out to some posters why we thought Chris was managing POC and how he got involved with the POC issues!)
And I replied to Reynier with this
I wish you the best with that one Reynier. From what I can see you were probably playing at the time Andre was manager at Palace of Chance?!
I received a Spam-mail from "Dean" as "manager of Palace of Chance".. So .. I don't think they are going to pay you... I hope they do, but realistically I doubt it ...
I "won" a "random jackpot" over 6 grand. All details and chats regarding my nightmare there are at Link Outdated / Removed
It's bad enough trusting someone with your money to be honest and pay us, Its another story (and always seems to be excuse after excuse as to why players are not paid!) It's pitiful. In my case Andre tried to make me sound like a "bonus abuser"... So, I only play accreditted now. (They had the nerve to think I was stupid enough to believe If I deposit there now and win I will be paid!) Not gonna happen.
Even the meister himself stated:
One the other hand, there is no such thing as bonus "abuse". It's called a poorly written bonus, or the casino is offering the bonus to the wrong players. Casinos worried about unwanted players need to focus on player retention and loyalty bonuses. Quit enticing newbies with "sweet deals'' and other crap.
The term "abuse" needs to be dropped from casino manager lingo. Replace this term with "advantage player" because that is what these players are.
Bottom line is if the casino makes the offer and the player accepts that offer, the player ought to be paid. If there is fraudulent activity, then that's a different story.
I did not "ask or requet that Chrris reimburse any funds until I tried to play at one of HIS casino's and was treated terribly! see...
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/17945/
Kempe posted this:
I haven't heard anything on my cashout at PoC, but probably the new manager chris can't take a loss at his casino, when people make a win...
..
me
OK Chris, Now my question.. just like my email... how come I received a promo email from "Dean" signed as the manager of Palace of Chance.. If you are indeed the new manager of "Palace of Chance"" then refer to my thread regarding my winnings. and proving Andre wrong as accusing me of bonus hunting/abusing at the Palace of Chance who is the manager at Palace of Chance now? and if it is you Chris, why aren't you cleaning up Andre's mess? I'm not dutch, holland, netherlands? I proved my deposits and can send you the emails to prove that the only reason Andre negotiated my bank deposits was to avoid a chargeback! but he did not refund monies paid to Palace of Chance via Click2pay!
Chris replied with this...
Hello everyone,
Chris again. I have been out of town for a few days. Just got back on Monday and have been trying to get caught up at the casinos. Just wanted to make one last comment... specifically to mysticjoz.
If there are any issues that I can resolve for players not from the Netherlands, please let me hear them. Apparently not, because I have wasted hours of my time, months of reading this board, and it is all for the same players from the same place... just different casinos. Am I really the only one who notices that? It is funny you say that. Isn't that what you have been doing this whole thread? What exactly is your issue with me or my group? Other than the fact that you think casinos should pay people even when they have been found to be breaking casino rules? In fact, didn't you call me a "BS'er" in the same post as your "you have no right to come onto this forum and insult or accuse anyone of anything!" comment? If there is an issue that you have, let me resolve it.
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then he replied with this..
Hello again,
mysticjoz:
Quote:
However... if this is indeed true then Chris where is my money?!? You are correcting these errors.. all I got was the deposits made through my bank from Andre (to avoid a chargeback).. No click2pay deposits were ever refunded!
I just went over to Dean and looked into your account and see that you have been paid $202.00 more than you had deposited. You were refunded because you threatened a chargeback with us. How is that we owe you more money when you have been paid more than you deposited?
I have indeed posted numbers and amounts.
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/17945/
and:
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/17945/
Now lets add in the playthrough amounts since they were not WR on my deposit on THAT WIN... It goes well above thier "free chip/bonus" amounts. I never denied using bonuses, coupons or free chips.
So Now
where is Chris and his reply to my request that he go back and ask Dean where the click2pay deposits are?
The list goes on and on.. So, First of all,
Lojo why would you isolate me and repeatedly post that MY NUMBERS are such a big deal when it is obvious from the above quotes taken from actual chats that Andre repeatedly changed the amount of bonuses/free chips I received! He had NO problem lying yet my story never once changed? Chris himself included POC on his list and numerous other posters Called him out as POC manager!
I am only posting this to try to clear up some confusion you seem to have on your end. In all reality my account at POC should not have had all 74 pages of transactions erased! I am glad I took screen shots when I did.
I have lurked in the background and had you accuse me of Abusing Bonuses, and not posting my numbers, hi-jacking threads,etc. But I will speak up now.
Numerous other posts by you have implied that I cheated and abused the bonuses. But I have never once seen anyone from POC come in here and post any facts relating to my situation or "proving them right". As far as hijacking threads, how did I do that if it indeed had to do with my situation and from what I can see I posted replies to the poster and thier problem... when POC was mentioned I mentioned my situation. If the problem relates then it relates...
And Where has Chris been since then??