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how did CM get started

Discussion in 'Ask the Meister' started by zebedy, Oct 11, 2008.

    Oct 11, 2008
  1. zebedy

    zebedy No!!!! Im Spartacus MM webmeister

    Occupation:
    brain stergeon
    Location:
    Up a Tree
    hi,
    having not been here from day one of the 10 years you have been running i was just wondering how CM got started ?
    did you start as an affiliate just to make some extra cash or was there something more,
    were you a player or affiliate that got ripped off by a casino and decided to do something about it, or were/are you just interested in the gaming industry as a whole,:thumbsup:
     
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  2. Oct 13, 2008
  3. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    Long story. No I wasn't a disgruntled affiliate or player - when Casinomeister was launched, there weren't really any affiliates that I know of. :p

    So grab a beer or put on a pot of tea, or grab a hot cup 'o java and have a sit.

    I was teaching English comp, Humanities, and Creative Writing in the San Diego community colleges (City, Mira Mesa, etc.) USIU and some part timing at SDSU. The Internet was in its fetal stage, and I was self-learning skills in graphics and HTML. I was trying to teach short stories and novels via HTML and Power Point presentations. This honed my basic webmastering skills. (I do all the HTML and graphic work here).

    At the same time, my wife was teaching German and Linguistics at SDSU. She was approached by a couple of guys who were starting up their own translation company; a company that translated websites and software manuals. They needed a director of translations and someone to oversee the German translations. My wife accepted the job and they asked what I did. She told them and they saw some of my work. Some of my early work is still here:
    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    Anyway they saw what I could do (graphic-wise) and they needed someone to assist in reworking the translations into graphics and proof-reading the translated HTML. No problem - they paid better than the teaching - but I still kept some of my teaching jobs since I enjoyed it (it was all part-time work.)

    So I started working for these guys. After a few months, a couple of online casinos hired us to translate their websites. I took a look at them and thought, "What a joke. Why would anyone in their right mind give these guys their Credit Card information and gamble with it? What idiots!" We did the translations and I more or less forgot about it until we were contacted by a company associated with one of the big land based casinos in San Diego. They were launching a crypto casino, but they had reservations in investing money in translations. They wanted us to pitch our case. The thought there were too many crooks and cowboys out there. And that's when the idea dawned on me - I could make a website, have lists of good casinos, bad casinos, news and info and call it Casinomeister. I could have it translated to German, so it would be a fun project to work with.

    I was always looking for ideas to develop websites. I had a few: a beer guide for Southern California, a website dedicated to new babies (sharing photos etc.), a screen writer's information portal, a creative writing website, but this one received the most responses.

    Traffic was great! During the first few months I was getting on average 30 unique users a day. :p Which was exciting since it was all word of mouth, and there weren't really any search engines yet. I had an old www html forum set up where people actually began posting - this was the beginning of an interactive web.

    It wasn't until a few months being online that I was contacted by a couple of casino groups who wanted to buy ad space - this opened up the idea of allowing only casinos that could meet a list of criteria. It was pretty exciting watching the site grow.

    We moved to Germany in 1999 under the premise of opening an office to better manage the European translators. Oops - dot.bomb. Crash went the company, and I started searching for work in Germany. I found a couple of web-designer jobs that didn't last. And it sucked. We had a baby on the way, and I was a foreigner. Casinomeister was making a little bit of money, but not enough to live on - but I thought, "If I put 100% of my effort into this website, I can make it work." I did that and it has worked ever since.

    Making money was not the core idea of the site; it was developing a site that provides valuable information, and that people find it interesting enough to just hang out. If I'm having fun with it, then a lot of people are having fun too. I've never strayed from this idea, and I think my approach has worked well.
     
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  4. Oct 13, 2008
  5. same_old

    same_old Dormant account PABaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    12th man
    Location:
    Australia
    Great story CM, now i have a question and it should of been the very FIRST questioned I asked when I joined cainomeister.

    (1)- do you yourself play at online casino's??.

    (2)- if not why not and if so where.
     
  6. Oct 13, 2008
  7. jas2587

    jas2587 Ueber Meister

    Occupation:
    none
    Location:
    FL
    enjoyed the read
    Thanks

    Cindy
     
  8. Oct 13, 2008
  9. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    I don't play online as much as I used to (too busy). When I do, it's these:
    32red
    iNetBet
    3Dice
     
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  10. Oct 13, 2008
  11. maxd

    maxd Complaints (PAB) Manager Staff Member

    Occupation:
    The PAB Guy
    Location:
    Saltirelandia
    Hey B, should we put this in the FAQ? Could make a nice opener for the FAQ, something to balance all that tech talk? :thumbsup:
     
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  12. Oct 13, 2008
  13. Pinababy69

    Pinababy69 RIP Lisa

    Occupation:
    Crusader
    Location:
    Toronto, Ontario - Canada
    LOL....the ONLY three casinos that I play at also. Most of my play at 32Red, no doubt. But when I have some extra, it's 3Dice and then Inetbet. Wow...great minds and all that jazz. :smilewink:
     
  14. Oct 13, 2008
  15. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    Sure thing!
     
  16. Oct 13, 2008
  17. maxd

    maxd Complaints (PAB) Manager Staff Member

    Occupation:
    The PAB Guy
    Location:
    Saltirelandia
  18. Oct 13, 2008
  19. chuchu59

    chuchu59 gambling addict CAG PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    EXECUTIVE
    Location:
    SOMEWHERE IN ASIA
    I understand Rival is relatively new but why no Crypto nor Playtech? I know this is personal but......
     
  20. Oct 13, 2008
  21. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    Oops :oops:

    Forgot Intercasino and Betfred :p
     
  22. Oct 13, 2008
  23. Mick114

    Mick114 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    self employed
    Location:
    Canada
    Thanks for the question and thanks for the answer CM!.....very interesting.
     
  24. Oct 13, 2008
  25. zebedy

    zebedy No!!!! Im Spartacus MM webmeister

    Occupation:
    brain stergeon
    Location:
    Up a Tree
    yes thanks bryan

    a nice insight there on how it all came together, :notworthy
     
  26. Oct 16, 2008
  27. missmichelle

    missmichelle Meister Member

    Occupation:
    homemaker
    Location:
    Tucson AZ
    I wish I had a thanks button. Very interesting.:thumbsup:
    Thanks Bryan!

    Michelle
     
  28. Oct 19, 2008
  29. CountByte

    CountByte Experienced Member MM

    Occupation:
    retired
    Location:
    Somewhere over the Rainbow
    I have often wondered how it all started and why, often started to ask, but didnt. Am glad someone finally did! :thumbsup:
     

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