Has Atlantic Interbet finally closed its' doors and snuck away into the night? For 2 days, nobody has been able to login, and the same holds true for its' free site Interbet. Many players have attempted to get a response from AIB as to their status, but we are being kept in the dark. Different stories to different people. As it stands now, a lot of players have money owing them, and withdrawals in limbo. If AIB has indeed closed, a simple statement to its' players would be appreciated......don't just sneak away like a thief!
Has Atlantic Interbet folded?
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Day 4 and still no AIB, no emails, no explanation! It is now becoming more apparent that Atlantic Interbet has indeed shut down. Unfortunately, in doing so, it has also sullied the enthusiasm and trust that a number of players had in online casinos. We know going into a casino that the risk of losing our money is a possibility, but we never expect that our money could be lost by the casino closing. Is there an organization that online casinos can belong to that insures patrons against losses incurred due to casinos folding? I realize it is buyer beware, but too often casinos that have been deemed reputable have folded. We all have to do research, check out forums, and by patronizing a casino take some responsibility if we choose to gamble at a non-viable casino. But it is becoming increasingly difficult to find an establishment that builds confidence in the online gaming industry. I , for one, will in the future heed the warning signs of a distressed casino...withdrawals taking up to 2 months to be issued, lack of response from support, etc. AIB, do the right thing. Have the guts to inform your previous supporters that you have closed your operation, or, that you are at the present time, experiencing technical or monetary difficulties. At least we will not then be in limbo.
i hope i'm not stepping on toes and i'm not trying to upset anyone but i think you need to know something there are some fourms about interbet casino which is a free site that is run by the same people who run AIB. and well you need to check out these fourms also i would like to add that interbet casino does lock people out even tho it is a free site but the people of aib and ib got there wish
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Hey Bryan, can you use any of your mystical powers to find out wtf is going on at aib? Maybe a consult with Yuri Geller, or more likely Jonathan Edwards (since he can speak with the dead ;-) )
The Meister's "on the road" attending a conference in the Bahamas I think (the fortunate sod!) but I can tell you that repeated attempts to get a response from Atlantic Interbet have met with failure.
There's a lot of comment about their conduct and lack of contact on a variety of message boards but no-one seems to know what's up for sure.
I'm trying a couple of alternative contact points at present and will let everyone know if anything eventuates.
There's a lot of comment about their conduct and lack of contact on a variety of message boards but no-one seems to know what's up for sure.
I'm trying a couple of alternative contact points at present and will let everyone know if anything eventuates.
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Thanks Jet, maybe he can pop by Antigua while he's in the neighborhood and pay a personal visit to aib.
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I tried making a phone call. They have an answering machine on their customer service line.
They did not return my call. Doesn't look good, boys and girls.
They did not return my call. Doesn't look good, boys and girls.
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Yes everyone, AIB has shut down and probably will not be} paying anyone. In addition, IB, the testing site for AIB is also shut down. I have spoken to two 3 star pits, and they are both sticking to their nonsense story that IB is moving its headquarters and they have not heard anything since. What I find hard to believe, is that with all the problems that AIB gave to their players, how could anyone play there? I played there years ago, and when we were being told lie after lie, I just deleted the site. I came to this forum and told everyone what was going on. Wendy, Osito and HRT of Queen came here to defend the site, they were pitbosses at AIB. I find it quite amusing that they are now speechless.
Whats up Wendy, Osito and Hrt of Queen? No leg to stand on? Cant defend your theiving site can you? Well, atleast one thing has been proven, I was right all along. Now you three stooges look like the morons that you always were and will be.
Whats up Wendy, Osito and Hrt of Queen? No leg to stand on? Cant defend your theiving site can you? Well, atleast one thing has been proven, I was right all along. Now you three stooges look like the morons that you always were and will be.
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Of course the story about moving the headquarters is nonsense! You don't just decide at 3pm one day that you're going to shut down and move your headquarters without even telling your employees (the pits) first. You plan for weeks or even months in advance, and you announce it to your workers & customers. And even if you did move your HQ, why would that affect the game servers that are in an Antigua server farm?
Oh well, it was fun while it lasted anyway. I don't hold out any hope for its return though. I think its gone to the big recycle bin in the sky
Oh well, it was fun while it lasted anyway. I don't hold out any hope for its return though. I think its gone to the big recycle bin in the sky
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To the people of AIB who were never paid:
David Roffman has another business called Dagar.
The web site addy is
David Roffman has another business called Dagar.
The web site addy is
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. Make sure to click on contact information, it has the same address as AIB did. I think you should all collectively hire an attorney and go after this company to get your money back.
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Hmm, medical software in Connecticut.
Offshore investment seminars often target attorneys and doctors to invite them to place assets offshore and avoid taxes that way. Wonder if Atlantic Interbet had some MD investors? Local business press might know.
Registrant:
Dagar Software Corporation (DAGAR-DOM)
649 Amity Road
Bethany
CT,06524
US
Domain Name: DAGAR.COM
Administrative Contact:
Roffman, Gary (GR331) [email protected]
Dagar Software Corporation
649 Amity Road
Bethany, CT 06524
(203) 393-2000
Technical Contact:
Walker, Alan (AW77) [email protected]
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One Bradley Road, Suite 104
Woodbridge, CT 06525
1-203-389-7130
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Offshore investment seminars often target attorneys and doctors to invite them to place assets offshore and avoid taxes that way. Wonder if Atlantic Interbet had some MD investors? Local business press might know.
Registrant:
Dagar Software Corporation (DAGAR-DOM)
649 Amity Road
Bethany
CT,06524
US
Domain Name: DAGAR.COM
Administrative Contact:
Roffman, Gary (GR331) [email protected]
Dagar Software Corporation
649 Amity Road
Bethany, CT 06524
(203) 393-2000
Technical Contact:
Walker, Alan (AW77) [email protected]
Call-Net Internet Services
One Bradley Road, Suite 104
Woodbridge, CT 06525
1-203-389-7130
Record expires on 20-Dec-2002.
Record created on 19-Dec-1995.
Database last updated on 21-Dec-2002 21:07:49 EST.
Domain servers in listed order:
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"Gary" was definitely one of the names and email addresses associated with Atlantic Interbet - and although there was no bounceback he did not respond to several emails requesting information on that status of AI.
I would say that owed players might like to give Mr. Roffman a call for an explanation regarding his casino's treatment of players....
Interbet, (203) 393-2291, 649 Amity Rd, Bethany, CT 06524
I would say that owed players might like to give Mr. Roffman a call for an explanation regarding his casino's treatment of players....
Interbet, (203) 393-2291, 649 Amity Rd, Bethany, CT 06524
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Hiya Jetset,
Thanks for the compliment. I just dont like when companies blantantly "rob" their players. Also, posted on Interbetcasino Message Board, David Roffman had the audacity to blame the closing of AIB and IB on the 9/11 tragedy. This really upset me. After all, you do not decide to fold up your tent overnight. They knew they were closing yet continued to accept deposits from their players and now they wont pay up nor respond to emails.
Thanks for the compliment. I just dont like when companies blantantly "rob" their players. Also, posted on Interbetcasino Message Board, David Roffman had the audacity to blame the closing of AIB and IB on the 9/11 tragedy. This really upset me. After all, you do not decide to fold up your tent overnight. They knew they were closing yet continued to accept deposits from their players and now they wont pay up nor respond to emails.
linda7
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Hi just came across new info regarding Atlantic Interbet. Their license was revoked on December 3,2002. You can read about it at this website.
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Will keep you posted as I hear further.
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Will keep you posted as I hear further.
Here's a little more information I have been sent by a source:
""I've been advised by someone that I am close with that Atlantic Interbet is to move to Costa Rica and set up shop with a sports book operation there that does not wish to be named at this time. The move is supposed to be complete by January 15, at which time all player accounts will be activated once again. The "deal" is supposedly done but I being the skeptic I am will believe it when I see it. In any event, this could serve as a glimpse of hope to your readers."
""I've been advised by someone that I am close with that Atlantic Interbet is to move to Costa Rica and set up shop with a sports book operation there that does not wish to be named at this time. The move is supposed to be complete by January 15, at which time all player accounts will be activated once again. The "deal" is supposedly done but I being the skeptic I am will believe it when I see it. In any event, this could serve as a glimpse of hope to your readers."
Even if AIB were to re-open, I feel that they have lost the confidence of most of their existing players. Another unsettling fact about all this is that new players can still register at the AIB website, and sites where their banners are still being displayed. Not only that, but deposits are still being accepted on AIB's website through NetTeller.....I deposited yesterday to verify this, and sure enough, it went through. Had to scramble over to NetTeller to deny the deposit..lol Is this not a fraudulent action, to accept deposits when you know full well you are no longer in existence?
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Jack, AIB never has and never will have any integrity. They will steal anything they can. I hope Neteller does not process your deposit. I would hate for you to lose even one dollar to Gary or David Roffman.
I would like to wish you all a very Happy and Joyous and Healthy Holday Season. God Bless and Keep you all safe.
Linda7
I would like to wish you all a very Happy and Joyous and Healthy Holday Season. God Bless and Keep you all safe.
Linda7
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I hate to admit it, but I was a pit, not once, but twice, in iB and resigned after uncovering some rather unsavory tidbits of information about them. They took everyone to the cleaners and the word on the street is that the reason that they came out with their "moving" story is that it would give AiB a little more time to spoof the players that they were coming back and might increase the chance of fewer "chargebacks" against them due to the time factor. The fact is that AiB hasn't paid winners in quite some time and indeed, their chances of charging back any of their deposits is dwindling. Here is a copy of the sickening, heartless, thoughtless letter from "****David. Bryan, is there a "Spawn of Hell" award for these arseholes? There has to be a special award of some kind to cover this kind of ignorance. They are using a tragic event of 15 months ago to cover their stupidity. I find this blatantly offensive.
From: ************
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:21 PM
Subject: [iBStaff] Please Read Important Update
Dear Staff of interBet,
Over the years we have grown and you have grown with us. While we
have shared many good times, now is a time for reflection, a time to
look back.
In the shadow of our country's recent tragedies we have all felt
sorrow and great sadness as we mourn the loss of our fellow sons and
daughters. Our families and our friends have all been touched by
this horrible event.
No one though, expected the far-reaching impact on our society that
we have witnessed and continue to see as time passes on.
Many people have lost their jobs in the wake of the financial strain
that has befallen our economy. Thousands who were once secure, now
face uncertainty. The ripple affect can be seen on Wall Street as
well. Investments that were handled so carefully over time have been
vanquished. Our children's futures have been put at risk.
We at interBet have come to a crossroads as well. We no longer can
afford to keep our doors open. As you know, we changed our business
model to that of a newsletter distributor/ advertiser. Advertising
has all but dried up. The cost of maintaining our system cannot be
supported any longer. It is with regret and sadness that we must
tell you this. We wish to thank all of our loyal volunteers who have
given us so much in the past 5 years. If it weren't for you, we
would have nothing but another run-of-the-mill gaming site run by
huge corporations. We were always the little guy, the underdog. And
now, we have succumbed.
****David
It saddens us all to see interBet close its doors, but as of this
time interBet is officially closed. We will miss all of you, and
want to thank you again for your time and hard work you have all put
into making interBet the Best site on the web. We will miss
interBet, the patrons and the friends we have made there. Try not
to think of how sad it will be, but think of how many good friends
you have made along the way because of interBet. Take care and
thank you!
***Mosnl
***PONYGAL
***Twiny
(Message edited by SFeagle on December 24, 2002)
From: ************
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:21 PM
Subject: [iBStaff] Please Read Important Update
Dear Staff of interBet,
Over the years we have grown and you have grown with us. While we
have shared many good times, now is a time for reflection, a time to
look back.
In the shadow of our country's recent tragedies we have all felt
sorrow and great sadness as we mourn the loss of our fellow sons and
daughters. Our families and our friends have all been touched by
this horrible event.
No one though, expected the far-reaching impact on our society that
we have witnessed and continue to see as time passes on.
Many people have lost their jobs in the wake of the financial strain
that has befallen our economy. Thousands who were once secure, now
face uncertainty. The ripple affect can be seen on Wall Street as
well. Investments that were handled so carefully over time have been
vanquished. Our children's futures have been put at risk.
We at interBet have come to a crossroads as well. We no longer can
afford to keep our doors open. As you know, we changed our business
model to that of a newsletter distributor/ advertiser. Advertising
has all but dried up. The cost of maintaining our system cannot be
supported any longer. It is with regret and sadness that we must
tell you this. We wish to thank all of our loyal volunteers who have
given us so much in the past 5 years. If it weren't for you, we
would have nothing but another run-of-the-mill gaming site run by
huge corporations. We were always the little guy, the underdog. And
now, we have succumbed.
****David
It saddens us all to see interBet close its doors, but as of this
time interBet is officially closed. We will miss all of you, and
want to thank you again for your time and hard work you have all put
into making interBet the Best site on the web. We will miss
interBet, the patrons and the friends we have made there. Try not
to think of how sad it will be, but think of how many good friends
you have made along the way because of interBet. Take care and
thank you!
***Mosnl
***PONYGAL
***Twiny
(Message edited by SFeagle on December 24, 2002)
Pretty despicable using a national disaster to justify firing your staff.
I have to say Atlantic Interbet is not looking good on this whole story and the manner in which they have mishandled (or maybe outright screwed) their clientele is beyond belief.
As Jack says, I doubt they will retain their regular players but then there are always the innocent newbies who don't research and jump straight in.
Remember the names Roffman and Atlantic Interbet and the manner in which they operated.
I have to say Atlantic Interbet is not looking good on this whole story and the manner in which they have mishandled (or maybe outright screwed) their clientele is beyond belief.
As Jack says, I doubt they will retain their regular players but then there are always the innocent newbies who don't research and jump straight in.
Remember the names Roffman and Atlantic Interbet and the manner in which they operated.
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I could have seen this excuse being used in the months immediately after, but 15 months later? Plus, the tragedy had ZERO impact on e-commerce, which had already taken a turn for the worse.
I never was an AIB fan. And I am certainly not now.
I never was an AIB fan. And I am certainly not now.
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Hi all,
I worked for iB/Aib for 7 years and I made so many wonderful friends. I am devastated by the events that have transpired over the past month. I was working my 3pm tournament on Saturday, November 30,2002 when I received and ICQ from a player asking when the casino would be back up. She said she was getting the closed for maintenance message. I told her I was in the casino working a tourney but only had 3 players plus ozidream and myself in the casino. Shortly after I booted and got the same message when I tried to re-enter.
I can honestly say staff had no warning that we would be closing on November 30. Shad, ozidream,Wendy,TruBlu, osito, Ride and myself have worked VERY hard over the years to make Atlantic interbet a success. We believed in the wonderful software Mark had created and knew it was the best Casino on the interbet and had hoped with proper management we could turn things around.
I am VERY loyal to an employer when they believe in me enough to hire me. I was fortunate at Aib that I was allowed to work and be myself. I LOVE what I did there as the tournament director. I have made some wonderful friendships over the years that hopefully will continue to grow. I personally can get up in the mornings and look myself in the mirror knowing I did everything I could without compromising my beliefs. I also know there will always be one or two people that will never believe what I / we have to say but those are the people that will ALWAYS look for the bad in everything. That I cannot control. Ive never been a told ya so kind of woman. Id prefer to learn and grow from my/others mistakes.
My mailbox has been filled since the day Aib closed with letters from our players/friends asking what had happened and if they would be receiving their money back. I called the owners and was asked to send a letter out to our players telling them all withdraws had been processed as of 11/30/02 and EVERYONE would receive their money. I sent the letter out but was told by everyone they had not nor have they received a dime yet. I have answered every letter I have received diligently. I could do like others and ignore my e-mail but I choose to keep the players up to date with ANY info I have, which is VERY limited.
My name is all I have. I feel sending that letter out compromised my name. I know I have and will always continue to be honest and trustworthy in everything I do. I cannot control what others do nor will I try. I feel this entire situation has made the staff look bad also, and that saddens me. There will always be people that think we know more than we do.
What most people dont know is that staff was asked to take a half pay cut after the events of 911 and we gladly took a cut in pay to help out. That was over a year ago and we had still not received full pay as of the closing of Aib. I think that alone should allow people to see we did what we did in Aib because we LOVED it there and loved our players enough to do ANYTHING we could to help out. We certainly werent working there for the money. LMAO
The more I gave, they more I was asked to give, which I did willingly as I believed in the software and the staff I worked with. Some people are givers, some are takers, and I know who and what I am and continue to hold my head up high.
I would like to thank everyone that has e-mailed me with words of comfort and encouragement. I think if I were on the players end I would be leery also of staff but I have found words of love and encouragement from everyone. Hopefully they know I am trying to be as honest as I can with the limited information I have because as you see I too am in the dark. My phone calls have gone unanswered also.
I am now in the process of looking for another job in a Casino online. Hopefully I will find one because I do love working online. I like to believe I am very good at what I do. Believe me, this month I have been SO bored. LOL
MANY players have e-mailed me asking me to let them know if I go to work at another casino online, as they would follow me. Youll never know how touched I am by your trust and comments. I truly believe I would be an asset for any employer. I am and always have been a team player.
Its hard to work 40 70 hours a week for a company then one day find yourself with nothing to do. YES I worked 40-70 hours a week in Aib. I like to think that would show a little something about me. I believed in Aib and was willing to work HARD to do my part to help it succeed.
I can honestly say I too feel betrayed. I gave everything I had, as did all of the employees of Aib. It saddens me to see how disposable staff as well as the players was. You think this has been easy for us? PLEASE think again. This has been devastating. To give all you have and then to just be discarded is not something that is easy to take.
I would like to wish everyone good luck and I pray you get your money. Please feel free to continue to e-mail me, I will answer all e-mail ASAP.
I miss you all,
Faye ( ***HRTofQUEEN)
I worked for iB/Aib for 7 years and I made so many wonderful friends. I am devastated by the events that have transpired over the past month. I was working my 3pm tournament on Saturday, November 30,2002 when I received and ICQ from a player asking when the casino would be back up. She said she was getting the closed for maintenance message. I told her I was in the casino working a tourney but only had 3 players plus ozidream and myself in the casino. Shortly after I booted and got the same message when I tried to re-enter.
I can honestly say staff had no warning that we would be closing on November 30. Shad, ozidream,Wendy,TruBlu, osito, Ride and myself have worked VERY hard over the years to make Atlantic interbet a success. We believed in the wonderful software Mark had created and knew it was the best Casino on the interbet and had hoped with proper management we could turn things around.
I am VERY loyal to an employer when they believe in me enough to hire me. I was fortunate at Aib that I was allowed to work and be myself. I LOVE what I did there as the tournament director. I have made some wonderful friendships over the years that hopefully will continue to grow. I personally can get up in the mornings and look myself in the mirror knowing I did everything I could without compromising my beliefs. I also know there will always be one or two people that will never believe what I / we have to say but those are the people that will ALWAYS look for the bad in everything. That I cannot control. Ive never been a told ya so kind of woman. Id prefer to learn and grow from my/others mistakes.
My mailbox has been filled since the day Aib closed with letters from our players/friends asking what had happened and if they would be receiving their money back. I called the owners and was asked to send a letter out to our players telling them all withdraws had been processed as of 11/30/02 and EVERYONE would receive their money. I sent the letter out but was told by everyone they had not nor have they received a dime yet. I have answered every letter I have received diligently. I could do like others and ignore my e-mail but I choose to keep the players up to date with ANY info I have, which is VERY limited.
My name is all I have. I feel sending that letter out compromised my name. I know I have and will always continue to be honest and trustworthy in everything I do. I cannot control what others do nor will I try. I feel this entire situation has made the staff look bad also, and that saddens me. There will always be people that think we know more than we do.
What most people dont know is that staff was asked to take a half pay cut after the events of 911 and we gladly took a cut in pay to help out. That was over a year ago and we had still not received full pay as of the closing of Aib. I think that alone should allow people to see we did what we did in Aib because we LOVED it there and loved our players enough to do ANYTHING we could to help out. We certainly werent working there for the money. LMAO
The more I gave, they more I was asked to give, which I did willingly as I believed in the software and the staff I worked with. Some people are givers, some are takers, and I know who and what I am and continue to hold my head up high. I would like to thank everyone that has e-mailed me with words of comfort and encouragement. I think if I were on the players end I would be leery also of staff but I have found words of love and encouragement from everyone. Hopefully they know I am trying to be as honest as I can with the limited information I have because as you see I too am in the dark. My phone calls have gone unanswered also.
I am now in the process of looking for another job in a Casino online. Hopefully I will find one because I do love working online. I like to believe I am very good at what I do. Believe me, this month I have been SO bored. LOL
MANY players have e-mailed me asking me to let them know if I go to work at another casino online, as they would follow me. Youll never know how touched I am by your trust and comments. I truly believe I would be an asset for any employer. I am and always have been a team player.
Its hard to work 40 70 hours a week for a company then one day find yourself with nothing to do. YES I worked 40-70 hours a week in Aib. I like to think that would show a little something about me. I believed in Aib and was willing to work HARD to do my part to help it succeed.
I can honestly say I too feel betrayed. I gave everything I had, as did all of the employees of Aib. It saddens me to see how disposable staff as well as the players was. You think this has been easy for us? PLEASE think again. This has been devastating. To give all you have and then to just be discarded is not something that is easy to take.
I would like to wish everyone good luck and I pray you get your money. Please feel free to continue to e-mail me, I will answer all e-mail ASAP.
I miss you all,
Faye ( ***HRTofQUEEN)
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Duplicate - sorry
(Message edited by sfeagle on December 29, 2002)
(Message edited by sfeagle on December 29, 2002)
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Good for you, Faye. I personally have seen and have heard of letters that have been signed by Wendy, you and other members of staff giving ridiculous reasons for locking players out, i.e., you have won too much! What kind of customer service is that? Bullcrap is what I say. David and Michelle did nothing but bury AiB and take the players on a merry ride. You cannot tell me with a straight face that Wendy did not know it was coming. Don't even go there. I hope that the players email David at his other company, DAGAR, and chargeback until they cannot chargeback any more. The entire staff of AiB and iB should be banned forever from working with any reputable online casino. By the way, since you all have nothing left to "give", why don't you give the players a real gift? A phone number for the owners that the players can use to contact them.
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I know who David is, but who the heck is Michelle??
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If I am not mistaken, Michelle is David's wife. There has been some confusion as to David's last name. Am not sure that he is a Roffman. I know that Arnie, Mark, and Steven originally started iB/AiB, but am not so certain that David was family.
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I have spoken with Faye (HrtofQueen) and it appears that I owe her an apology. Wendy, who was let go from AiB before the closing apparently insinuated that Faye had been involved in some of the "locked accounts" by her correspondence. Faye says that she was not involved and if that is the case, then I owe her an apology. I spent a great deal of time working there, for no compensation, and Wendy and a woman named "Lins" made my life a living hell for some time after I resigned. I have no doubt that there were some good pits left (like Faye), but there were many bad ones also. Unfortunately, they all get grouped in together when something this atrocious happens. My apologies to Faye. But I still stand by my statement that AiB stunk towards the end and that SOMEONE there knew exactly what was going on before they closed.
hrtofqueen
Dormant account
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Hi stephanie,
Thank you for correcting that. You said my name was listed under Wendys when a letter was sent out banning a player. I Have never sent a letter out like that nor would I appreciate someone adding my name to a letter like that without my knowledge.
Thanks for refreshing my memory to who you were when you worked in iB. I do remember you as a hard worker that was unfairly treated by a couple of people. The things you said were done to you when you left were cruel and vendictive.
People like youself gave of themselves with no compensation and I for one appreciated all of the volunteers in iB. Some of the staff/managers in iB just took themselves way to seriously LMAO It was suppose to be a place to go to have FUN.
Somehow that concept was lost on a few bad apples that were on a power trip. They took the fun out of iB.
Thank you for correcting that. You said my name was listed under Wendys when a letter was sent out banning a player. I Have never sent a letter out like that nor would I appreciate someone adding my name to a letter like that without my knowledge.
Thanks for refreshing my memory to who you were when you worked in iB. I do remember you as a hard worker that was unfairly treated by a couple of people. The things you said were done to you when you left were cruel and vendictive.
People like youself gave of themselves with no compensation and I for one appreciated all of the volunteers in iB. Some of the staff/managers in iB just took themselves way to seriously LMAO It was suppose to be a place to go to have FUN.
Somehow that concept was lost on a few bad apples that were on a power trip. They took the fun out of iB.
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I think sfeagle was referring to the whole ugly incident with Gramsey. From what I remember of that, she said it was signed by wendy, nothing to do with you Hrt.
I always thought Hrt was one of the good ones at AIB, and I believe she is telling us the truth. I'm amazed that she is apparently the only one with enough guts to come out and post here in public.
Where is the AIB management?? Running? Hiding? Counting the dollars from all the players who are still owed money from as far back as October?? Stop asking the employees to deliver messages for you and come out speak for yourselves.
I always thought Hrt was one of the good ones at AIB, and I believe she is telling us the truth. I'm amazed that she is apparently the only one with enough guts to come out and post here in public.
Where is the AIB management?? Running? Hiding? Counting the dollars from all the players who are still owed money from as far back as October?? Stop asking the employees to deliver messages for you and come out speak for yourselves.
Support staff were really helpful at AIB the few times I played there.
This is off-topic, but I'm curious. Do staff at online casino work from one physical address or are they scattered all over, going online when it's their shift?
Also, someone mentioned they were working for nothing for most of the time? Is that because of not being paid, or was it as a volunteer.
It's a little worrying when perhaps confidential info could be accessed from all over the place and by people who aren't actually employees.
This is off-topic, but I'm curious. Do staff at online casino work from one physical address or are they scattered all over, going online when it's their shift?
Also, someone mentioned they were working for nothing for most of the time? Is that because of not being paid, or was it as a volunteer.
It's a little worrying when perhaps confidential info could be accessed from all over the place and by people who aren't actually employees.
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Okay, I will attempt to explain this situation a little better. iB was a sister site to AiB and was supposedly the testing ground for the "pay to play" site. I volunteered with iB for quite a long time and as a volunteer, got to know many of those, including Wendy, who went on to AiB. As a pit in iB, I had no access to anyone's confidential information. None at all. But a lot of the people who had volunteered in iB eventually went on to AiB as paid employees. I was not one of them.
Thanks Sfeagle for clarifying a bit of it.
However, can you or Wendy, answer query re whether paid staff go "in" to one location to work or are they scattered, logging on when it's their shift. If scattered, then I doubt whether they were interviewed face to face and security checked before being taken on.
I really hate the thought of a pc-smarty being able to use any employees' pc to find out stuff they should not have access to. And what happens to info which any employee might choose to copy, after a casino shuts down as AIB has done?
However, can you or Wendy, answer query re whether paid staff go "in" to one location to work or are they scattered, logging on when it's their shift. If scattered, then I doubt whether they were interviewed face to face and security checked before being taken on.
I really hate the thought of a pc-smarty being able to use any employees' pc to find out stuff they should not have access to. And what happens to info which any employee might choose to copy, after a casino shuts down as AIB has done?
A very long time ago, David Roffman posted a players personal details on this forum. The player considered this a violation of the terms of his/her casino membership. I believe this message is still on the archives of Casinomeister, if anyone cares to search for it.
I was never impressed by AIB. I lost $2000 in like 10 minutes to thier bj game, playing only $25 a bet (if I remember correctly). I rarely have had a game take my money so quickly. Also, what a pain it was to deposit and withdraw here. I had to go on another website, depsoit to an unknown ecash company. Then it took 20 minutes or sometimes an hour for the deposit to clear. Than I had to go back to the website after it cleared to transfer monies in the casino. Then, when I got back to the casino I had to enter another code for the $$$ to finally appear as credits.
Enough was enough. I had never seen such foolishness in all my life. To top it off, the pit crew thier was incredibly rude to me, never once thanking me for thier business.
The one good thing about AIB were thier tournaments. They were well run, and when the site first started, people made a lot of friends there and had a ball while laughing all the way to the bank. Other casinos need to capitalize on
the way AIB originally ran thier tournaments. It was a smart idea. But other than that,, AiB offererd nothing special.
As for Hrt I was very impressed by her message above.
I was never impressed by AIB. I lost $2000 in like 10 minutes to thier bj game, playing only $25 a bet (if I remember correctly). I rarely have had a game take my money so quickly. Also, what a pain it was to deposit and withdraw here. I had to go on another website, depsoit to an unknown ecash company. Then it took 20 minutes or sometimes an hour for the deposit to clear. Than I had to go back to the website after it cleared to transfer monies in the casino. Then, when I got back to the casino I had to enter another code for the $$$ to finally appear as credits.
Enough was enough. I had never seen such foolishness in all my life. To top it off, the pit crew thier was incredibly rude to me, never once thanking me for thier business.
The one good thing about AIB were thier tournaments. They were well run, and when the site first started, people made a lot of friends there and had a ball while laughing all the way to the bank. Other casinos need to capitalize on
the way AIB originally ran thier tournaments. It was a smart idea. But other than that,, AiB offererd nothing special.
As for Hrt I was very impressed by her message above.
linda7
Non-Gambler
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- Brooklyn, NY
To answer the question as to where the staff from AIB worked from...the answer is they worked from their homes. Wendy is in Virgina, Hrt is in California, etc. Also, yes the pits DO have access to all of your personal information. AIB used to double and triple charge their players. Also, if you funded with your debit card, they would just go into your bank account and withdraw at will.
Not a direct response to any particular post. I played at AIB for more than 2 years and made many friends.
I continued to play at the casino when it was apparent to me that it was struggling, continually modified tournament formats, extremely slow payment etc, but that was my choice and my risk. That aside, the manner in which AIB has chosen to wind up its operations is an absolute disgrace, totally disrepectful of staff and players and one that, unfortunately, appears unique to this particular industry.
I especially wish Hrt and Shad good luck and extend my sympathies to these 2 people who were extremely friendly at all times, made the experience a pleasure and now find themselves without a job through no fault of their own. It would appear that good software and good staff obviously don't compensate for incompetencies at higher levels in the organisation.
I continued to play at the casino when it was apparent to me that it was struggling, continually modified tournament formats, extremely slow payment etc, but that was my choice and my risk. That aside, the manner in which AIB has chosen to wind up its operations is an absolute disgrace, totally disrepectful of staff and players and one that, unfortunately, appears unique to this particular industry.
I especially wish Hrt and Shad good luck and extend my sympathies to these 2 people who were extremely friendly at all times, made the experience a pleasure and now find themselves without a job through no fault of their own. It would appear that good software and good staff obviously don't compensate for incompetencies at higher levels in the organisation.
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I'm afraid that is probably the case with all the gambling sites using their own unique software. It costs money to do background checks, provide computer security, and so forth. Some companies are two people with a computer--like 1cnp.
Atlantic Interbet was using volunteers, that's being pretty cheap.
Atlantic Interbet was using volunteers, that's being pretty cheap.
Actually thier system of using volunteers (who might eventually become paid employees) was a pretty good idea, and in my personal opinion, this was not what lead to thier downfall.
I sincerely hope these volunteers didn't have access to all my confidential info.
I sincerely hope these volunteers didn't have access to all my confidential info.
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From gambling911.com
01.04.03 (2:12 PM EST) - Continuing saga of Atlantic Interbet. Owner currently away on vacation will continue working to get servers transferred and payouts made this coming week.
01.04.03 (2:12 PM EST) - Continuing saga of Atlantic Interbet. Owner currently away on vacation will continue working to get servers transferred and payouts made this coming week.
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Why wouldn't they have told their own employees (the pits at AIB), let alone all of their very patient and loyal customers, that they were moving to Costa Rica instead of just shutting down without warning? They've been telling the customers that their money was all sent to them on 11/30, so why would they have to make payouts next week?
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I wasn't going to respond but I read the comments from HRTofQUEEN and couldn't resist to make a response.
Before everyone passes out hankies to weep for the poor HRTofQUEEN lets share a little eye opener about the innocent HRT
Well, for starters she was Marks right hand person before he was caught stealing from the company. HRT had no problem kissing up to whoever was in charge at that time and Mark used that to his full advantage. She says how she didn't like the ones on the power trips but I gather she never looked in the mirror.
She was the biggest person on a power trip she was rude and obnoxious to most of the iB staff and to even ones that thought they were her friends. I will add that MsInnocent HRT was and intricate part of the password clicking scam where Mark was collecting money from interBet. So if you want to talk about the demise of iB and AIB you can start looking in her direction with her pal Mark. If they didnt steal from the business its possible interBet and AIB might still be here today.
It was that situation that started the roller ball of the casinos demises. I think as soon as she realized that she might go down with her friend Mark, she all of a sudden changed sides to David, the owner of iB. Its a shame David did not see right through her and her conniving ways.
Please don't let her fool you with all her self praises she wouldn't know how to be a loyal employee/person if it slapped her in the face.
Oh and if you were treated unfairly in AIB I would think she had full knowledge of it. Don't put anything past her and her devious ways.
Before everyone passes out hankies to weep for the poor HRTofQUEEN lets share a little eye opener about the innocent HRT
Well, for starters she was Marks right hand person before he was caught stealing from the company. HRT had no problem kissing up to whoever was in charge at that time and Mark used that to his full advantage. She says how she didn't like the ones on the power trips but I gather she never looked in the mirror.
She was the biggest person on a power trip she was rude and obnoxious to most of the iB staff and to even ones that thought they were her friends. I will add that MsInnocent HRT was and intricate part of the password clicking scam where Mark was collecting money from interBet. So if you want to talk about the demise of iB and AIB you can start looking in her direction with her pal Mark. If they didnt steal from the business its possible interBet and AIB might still be here today.
It was that situation that started the roller ball of the casinos demises. I think as soon as she realized that she might go down with her friend Mark, she all of a sudden changed sides to David, the owner of iB. Its a shame David did not see right through her and her conniving ways.
Please don't let her fool you with all her self praises she wouldn't know how to be a loyal employee/person if it slapped her in the face.
Oh and if you were treated unfairly in AIB I would think she had full knowledge of it. Don't put anything past her and her devious ways.
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What is this 'password clicking scam' you mentioned?? I've never heard of it.
linda7
Non-Gambler
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- Brooklyn, NY
JPM I will explain it to you. In order to get into the Suites you first had to go to various advertising sites, click on them, then get the password. Now, mind you, there were 15 suites for both the Atlantic City and Las Vegas sides. So you had to go to 30 different sites, click on them to get the passwords. It is such a coincidence that HRT and Mark got a piece of every click made by every patron. Also, the passwords changed every single day, and on rare occassions twice a day. Additionally, if you were to page someone to give them the passwords, instead of getting your message, they would receive a message saying "sending passwords is wrong and I wont do it". I must agree with Truth's post. She told everything just the way it was. HRT is a mean, cheating SOB. When I would be online she would IM me with very cruel statements. I did not kiss her butt and that infuriated her. So if anyone was on a Power Trip it was definitely HRTofQueen. If any other casino were to hire her, they should have their heads examined first.
