susanjbo VS RiverBelle

GOCC

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While I am not Niftys biggest fan nor he mine, I fully agree with what he has posted.

You also dilute the original argument by claiming Nifty has some privileged access to your personal info.

Here is your personal info that you have made available to the community

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/members/

It shows you are 48 and a married female. You also say your hubby told you about this site so it would be common sense to presume he his also a gambler at the online casinos.


I am no professional on oz law but in your mind you believe it is illegal to deposit in Casinos. Nifty quoted the following but I dont know where from


Quote Originally Posted by susnjbo
My response was swift, rang my bank and placed a stop on my card.,..... I used a rule i never knew i had. Australian residents are not permitted to play online, so my bank tells me. All in all this would never have happened should they have honoured there bonus, Now i don't care. They can keep there bonus, ill be spending my returned funds once they are processed elsewhere.


So you believed it was unlawful to do the deposit (Whether correctly I don't know but your own evidence to support you actually contradicts you) but you still did. Was this with the thought process that if you lose, you will go down the chargeback route again?
 

everyday

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To the OP..Shame on you! Players like you are the reason the rest of us are given such a hard time by casinos. I cannot imagine the amount of time people like you spend just thinking of sneaky ways to better yourself financially to the detriment of the average, normal player. The rest of us do end up paying for your tactics one way or the other so perhaps you should think about that. No sympathy or support from my end.
 

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Nifty's right on the mark with his post. BTW why's the Op even allowed to gamble online? Shouldn't they be on some sort of black list or something? They've already made one charge back. I smell another. I mean seriously I'm pro-player these days but I know a con when I see one.
 

susanjbo

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Yes , and its the same old faces sticking up for their mates yet failing to even comment on the initial post and the reason in which it was posted here. I didnt dig up the old dispute with another casino long ago, Im dam sure it wasnt even mentioned in my original post, in fact i dont even mention my intent to progress with trying to get a single cent back from RiverBell.

In fact im just viewing more and more comments on threads that are not relevant, oh thats right, NIFTY introduced them to this thread and guess what, once again its hijacked by morons.


@ Jasminebed - Show me where i ask for your help in any of my posts! - HHMMM, Maybe reading the thread might help prior to useless comments!


@ GOCC - Your another one! Show me where i state that i believe its unlawfull for me to deposit! Once again, if you even bothered to read current thread, which you havent , it made no mention of that issue untill it was brought up. And no, you are not familiar with Australian law, But you would be if you were as enthusiastic to read the Australian Legislation of 2001 in my old thread. But instead, you, like nifty29 choose to just pick and choose comments and create your own story. Well at least you had the decency to leave your quotes as written, unlike nifty choosing to rearrange words and create his/her own sentence then palm it off as mine, once again if u had bothered to actually read this thread.


@ everyday - Tell us, what is the heading of this thread? Do you even know? Shame on players like me for doing what you say?? Oh, you refer to previous threads from years ago, i bet my undies that you dont even know what that was about either.

AND Once Again @ GOCC - "You also dilute the original argument by claiming Nifty has some privileged access to your personal info." Now its obvious that you have little or limited knowledge of member level scripts in source codes such as this web site. And rather than sit here and explain how in many cases different tiers normally have more privliages depending on how high a member level u are, but that aside, i can read what i said, and it is clear what i said if you bothered to take your blinkers off. BUT HERES WHAT I WROTE " Im not sure what your member level entitles you to view and see " HHHMM, lets see, Yep, your again making storys up to better your pethic argument


Oh and lets just clear this up for the hangers on throwing in their 20 cent comments about absolute crap, We havent used a credit card on a casino site in years. HHHMM, and which casino would have a problem with members who pay using facilities that are instant payments. I wonder if anyone even reads any threads in this place, or do many of you follow each other around like dogs wading into threads and pissing on the trees to make your marks. Im calling on all back Pat Slappers to raise ya hands. There are 3 in this page already.
 

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Yes , and its the same old faces sticking up for their mates yet failing to even comment on the initial post and the reason in which it was posted here. I didnt dig up the old dispute with another casino long ago, Im dam sure it wasnt even mentioned in my original post, in fact i dont even mention my intent to progress with trying to get a single cent back from RiverBell.

In fact im just viewing more and more comments on threads that are not relevant, oh thats right, NIFTY introduced them to this thread and guess what, once again its hijacked by morons.


@ Jasminebed - Show me where i ask for your help in any of my posts! - HHMMM, Maybe reading the thread might help prior to useless comments!


@ GOCC - Your another one! Show me where i state that i believe its unlawfull for me to deposit! Once again, if you even bothered to read current thread, which you havent , it made no mention of that issue untill it was brought up. And no, you are not familiar with Australian law, But you would be if you were as enthusiastic to read the Australian Legislation of 2001 in my old thread. But instead, you, like nifty29 choose to just pick and choose comments and create your own story. Well at least you had the decency to leave your quotes as written, unlike nifty choosing to rearrange words and create his/her own sentence then palm it off as mine, once again if u had bothered to actually read this thread.


@ everyday - Tell us, what is the heading of this thread? Do you even know? Shame on players like me for doing what you say?? Oh, you refer to previous threads from years ago, i bet my undies that you dont even know what that was about either.

AND Once Again @ GOCC - "You also dilute the original argument by claiming Nifty has some privileged access to your personal info." Now its obvious that you have little or limited knowledge of member level scripts in source codes such as this web site. And rather than sit here and explain how in many cases different tiers normally have more privliages depending on how high a member level u are, but that aside, i can read what i said, and it is clear what i said if you bothered to take your blinkers off. BUT HERES WHAT I WROTE " Im not sure what your member level entitles you to view and see " HHHMM, lets see, Yep, your again making storys up to better your pethic argument


Oh and lets just clear this up for the hangers on throwing in their 20 cent comments about absolute crap, We havent used a credit card on a casino site in years. HHHMM, and which casino would have a problem with members who pay using facilities that are instant payments. I wonder if anyone even reads any threads in this place, or do many of you follow each other around like dogs wading into threads and pissing on the trees to make your marks. Im calling on all back Pat Slappers to raise ya hands. There are 3 in this page already.

You're missing a vital point....nobody cares that Riverbelle locked your account.

At least we "morons" can spell :rolleyes:
 

GOCC

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You have to laugh

Ive had more arguments with Nifty than I have with my wife of 13 years.

If you actually read what I wrote, I said I didnt know the thread of which Nifty had his quote from so I couldnt read its full context.Nor could I read any legislation that you refer too now as it was not apparent.

If you come on a forum, you will get differing views to your own. Thats the idea of a forum; interaction from different users, opinions and views. My view is you were trying to con the casino with the MG trick and they have caught you. I may be wrong BUT that is MY view of which with experience and the balance of information on here, is what I have decided. If I am wrong then so be it. Ive been wrong before and no doubt will be again. But to start with the virile of calling members comments pathetic (Note I spell it correctly) and likening members to dogs pissing up trees is offensive. Not that I give 2 cents but some of our more sensitive members might.

Anyway, Well done to Riverbelle on this occasion but If I have it wrong, why not PAB and see what Max finds out. But as the saying goes; "Good luck with that project"
 

everyday

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To the OP...I did indeed read your entire post in this thread and am not at all interested in any prior posts you may have made.

Your words...not mine


Made one deposit $140, played basicly what i always play, mega moola, major millions and that santa game. - No card games, no poker, no roulete, no table games, just a couple slots. Lost all that , but i did have some game achievements i wanted to at least claim by a few more spins which would have netted me $500 to continue to play with.

What "game achievements" are you referring to after having lost your deposit?


I conclude, too many differing storys and restricting players from finishing their free games is the same as with holding cash.

What "free games" are you referring to after having lost your deposit?


and hindering my ability to claim moneys that are not wins but earnt on some games.

What "moneys" did you expect to "claim" after having lost your deposit?



The casino then locks me out and prevented to continue on with the games i had intended to play.

What "games" had you "intended to "continue" to play" after having lost your deposit?


Do any of the "game achievements", "free games", "moneys", "games" refer to the "free spin" feature on the slots you were playing? Did you achieve this feature and then back out of the slot with plans to return to that slot after your account balance was at "zero"?


Yours answers to the above questions could change my opinion as I do have a mind of my own.
 

GOCC

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Everyday, I will try and answer on the OP behalf and if I am incorrect I am sure that she will rectify.

There is an old trick on MG casinos. You receive bonus money and then proceed to play slots games that have "Features" on them. Thunderstruck being one of many. When you hit the feature, you close the game and then come back to it later on. You do this across a few of the games on the MG platform with features and when you have blown all of your deposit you return to the game.

The reason that you return to the game is because the system believes, because your balance is now zero, that you have "Lost" all the bonus money so resets the balance. You would then make a nominal deposit and return to the games that you have achieved the feature on and because you zeroed that balance, the system would pay any subsequent returns as real cash. This was rectified in a MG update though I am not sure if it was across the whole network, I can only assume it was.

If I am correct, I am unsure how the OP arrives at the $500 valuation but again, Im sure she will enlighten us all.
 

everyday

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Thank you GOCC for your explanation as that was my understanding as well. As the OP took offense to my opinion of her possible tactics a few posts back, I do want to give her the opportunity to either confirm or deny that this was her style of play.
 

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I thought the OP was sincere at first and that the casino was to blame. But Nifty (mostly) has clarified the situation. Thank you for that.
 

susanjbo

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I have no issue with dithering opinion, but when thread goes off half cocked in all direction except the one intended then yes i do get bloody angry. Why where comments presented here from old posts?? Id say to strengthen a weak argument.

Maybe if everyone stuck to topic and not make assumptions, then have someone second that assumption and the whole post go wacky.

* I will say this, You may question my old thread, thats fine, but did anyone bother to ask what was the outcome of that issue years back? AS i made an agreement with them i will only say that the outcome was very apologetic and i was overwhelmed in return**


That being said and final, maybe we can actually stew over this issue, but then again it aint an issue, the time that would be required to chase this down is everyones waste of time. But when casinos do stupid things these things happen. All this could have been avoided with a simple email.
 

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I have no issue with dithering opinion, but when thread goes off half cocked in all direction except the one intended then yes i do get bloody angry. Why where comments presented here from old posts?? Id say to strengthen a weak argument.

Maybe if everyone stuck to topic and not make assumptions, then have someone second that assumption and the whole post go wacky.

* I will say this, You may question my old thread, thats fine, but did anyone bother to ask what was the outcome of that issue years back? AS i made an agreement with them i will only say that the outcome was very apologetic and i was overwhelmed in return**


That being said and final, maybe we can actually stew over this issue, but then again it aint an issue, the time that would be required to chase this down is everyones waste of time. But when casinos do stupid things these things happen. All this could have been avoided with a simple email.

I don't think it's a fair assumption that people will read and consider only what you wrote unless it is your first post ever here. If it was your first post ever and you came on here accusing a CM accredited casino of deceit, vagueness, suspicious behavior and thievery you would certainly be 'held up to the light'.

Casinos that are accredited here face a rigorous examination by the very same people you find yourself squaring off with, they have passed that examination, you appear to have failed it.

You tried to gain an advantage on the casino and they didn't go for it.
 

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Have to admit i had never heard of this strategy before, though i mostly play RTG & 3Dice and don't think it would work there anyway, my question is -

Bonus features or Free Spins are usually initiated at the end of or as a result of a winning combination during a paid spin so to me they form part of that paid spin, whether you activate immediatley or go back later surely they should still be subject to any Casino rules (WR or otherwise) applicable when the paid spin that initaiated them was played?

Al
 

everyday

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I have no issue with dithering opinion, but when thread goes off half cocked in all direction except the one intended then yes i do get bloody angry. Why where comments presented here from old posts?? Id say to strengthen a weak argument.

Maybe if everyone stuck to topic and not make assumptions, then have someone second that assumption and the whole post go wacky.

* I will say this, You may question my old thread, thats fine, but did anyone bother to ask what was the outcome of that issue years back? AS i made an agreement with them i will only say that the outcome was very apologetic and i was overwhelmed in return**


That being said and final, maybe we can actually stew over this issue, but then again it aint an issue, the time that would be required to chase this down is everyones waste of time. But when casinos do stupid things these things happen. All this could have been avoided with a simple email.

No surprise that you chose not to answer my questions. The casino didn't do anything stupid but I now believe that you did and you got caught. Talk about a waste of time.
 

susanjbo

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You tried to gain an advantage on the casino and they didn't go for it.

And you know this how? Do tell! No really, where was this apparent
? How was this mysterious answer delivered to the devine self prior to anyone else here?

1st it was credit card charge backs that i would and will be chasing Riverbell for, But wait, i dont use credit cards.

2nd Dumb assumption. I must be some kind of bonus cheat and tried to claim free spins after purposely losing initial bonus and deposit.
Well if that system some alledge actually was beneficial then that means i spent 4 years playing at Riverbell doing the exact same thing and must have been pulling large dollars out of the casino for a very long period. Problem is, if anyone bothered to read what i wrote, i have never made a withdrawl from that casino. So lets stop pulling rabbits out of ya asses and stop making assumptions based on baseless comments of what might have happend, because neither of those are usefull.

3rd Dumb assumption - OP musy be a cheat because her prior post from years ago , which also was hijacked by some galacticly stupid people came to its own conclusion that she chargeback a credit card transaction , , but wait, anyone have the nouse to ask, what did end up happening with that problem? Oh, we didnt know a letter of oppology was issued and acceptance agreed upon.


I have now concluded that the majority of poster here are no help, nor have any ability to see past their own bullshit egos and have so far, in every accusation presented no evidence to back up their baseless comments .

*** What next people, did god approach me and shove a golden ticket up my ass that some how causes casino software to malfunction every time i fart. *** Thank god im not on charges for murder, because there aint a ounce of inteligence to be seen. " Whats the verdict?? GUILTY!, How did you all come to the conclusion??, OH< BECAUSE SO AND SO SAID SO"***

And now that i have an email from them, i will just hang onto that a bit longer before i post its summary. Just so we can weed out the next galacticly stupid assumption based on fiction.

Wow, i can see there wont be many card counters in this building. What a total waste of time and not one comment was even remotely accurate.
 

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And you know this how? Do tell! No really, where was this apparent
? How was this mysterious answer delivered to the devine self prior to anyone else here?

1st it was credit card charge backs that i would and will be chasing Riverbell for, But wait, i dont use credit cards.

2nd Dumb assumption. I must be some kind of bonus cheat and tried to claim free spins after purposely losing initial bonus and deposit.
Well if that system some alledge actually was beneficial then that means i spent 4 years playing at Riverbell doing the exact same thing and must have been pulling large dollars out of the casino for a very long period. Problem is, if anyone bothered to read what i wrote, i have never made a withdrawl from that casino. So lets stop pulling rabbits out of ya asses and stop making assumptions based on baseless comments of what might have happend, because neither of those are usefull.

3rd Dumb assumption - OP musy be a cheat because her prior post from years ago , which also was hijacked by some galacticly stupid people came to its own conclusion that she chargeback a credit card transaction , , but wait, anyone have the nouse to ask, what did end up happening with that problem? Oh, we didnt know a letter of oppology was issued and acceptance agreed upon.


I have now concluded that the majority of poster here are no help, nor have any ability to see past their own bullshit egos and have so far, in every accusation presented no evidence to back up their baseless comments .

*** What next people, did god approach me and shove a golden ticket up my ass that some how causes casino software to malfunction every time i fart. *** Thank god im not on charges for murder, because there aint a ounce of inteligence to be seen. " Whats the verdict?? GUILTY!, How did you all come to the conclusion??, OH< BECAUSE SO AND SO SAID SO"***

And now that i have an email from them, i will just hang onto that a bit longer before i post its summary. Just so we can weed out the next galacticly stupid assumption based on fiction.

Wow, i can see there wont be many card counters in this building. What a total waste of time and not one comment was even remotely accurate.

A good indication that you are trying to game the casino is the way you lash out at people who seem to have figured out what you were trying to do. If you don't think you did anything wrong why not use the system here for filing a complaint against an accredited casino.

The title you chose for your thread is also somewhat telling, if you titled it "Need help with Riverbelle" or "Does this sound right?" it would have sounded more believable than telling right away how rotten, terrible, and horrible they are.

Now, as of your most recent post, you have gotten all grandiose in your replies talking about galactically? stupid people, divine intervention, and holding back the possible conclusion hoping some here will beg you to reveal it.

Frankly, you sound like you may have forgotten to take your meds.

If you have a problem with an accredited casino here post your problem, alert the rep, file a PAB... If you are in the right it works very well.
 

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I have now concluded that the majority of poster here are no help, nor have any ability to see past their own bullshit egos ....

And I have concluded that you are a troll. Effective immediately your account has been moved to Moderated Users meaning that your posts will have to be approved by a site Admin or moderator before they will appear. Expect delays. Junk and/or pointlessly inflamatory posts will be tossed without notice. If at some point your posting behaviour normalizes you can request to be moved back to the forum general population.
 

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If you have a problem with an accredited casino here post your problem, alert the rep, file a PAB... If you are in the right it works very well.


@ Bigjohn , what you just wrote is the first bit of sense in here all day. Yes you were stern, clear and even thou some of your comments i could argue with , all in all i can fully understand and even agree too. You didnt base your responce based on here-say, and you finished off with a suggestion, not a conclusion or accussation. This thread started really , well, it has some thoughts, ideas, suggestions but then got hijacked by the usual mob who seem to think that making false claims and misrepresenting the truth and failing to back up such claims just shows that the moderation of forum posts here is a little too at ease and explains why its so important to have staff active on site and moderating threads without bias.

Thankyou for being centred.
 

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And you know this how? Do tell! No really, where was this apparent
? How was this mysterious answer delivered to the devine self prior to anyone else here?

1st it was credit card charge backs that i would and will be chasing Riverbell for, But wait, i dont use credit cards.

2nd Dumb assumption. I must be some kind of bonus cheat and tried to claim free spins after purposely losing initial bonus and deposit.
Well if that system some alledge actually was beneficial then that means i spent 4 years playing at Riverbell doing the exact same thing and must have been pulling large dollars out of the casino for a very long period. Problem is, if anyone bothered to read what i wrote, i have never made a withdrawl from that casino. So lets stop pulling rabbits out of ya asses and stop making assumptions based on baseless comments of what might have happend, because neither of those are usefull.

3rd Dumb assumption - OP musy be a cheat because her prior post from years ago , which also was hijacked by some galacticly stupid people came to its own conclusion that she chargeback a credit card transaction , , but wait, anyone have the nouse to ask, what did end up happening with that problem? Oh, we didnt know a letter of oppology was issued and acceptance agreed upon.


I have now concluded that the majority of poster here are no help, nor have any ability to see past their own bullshit egos and have so far, in every accusation presented no evidence to back up their baseless comments .

*** What next people, did god approach me and shove a golden ticket up my ass that some how causes casino software to malfunction every time i fart. *** Thank god im not on charges for murder, because there aint a ounce of inteligence to be seen. " Whats the verdict?? GUILTY!, How did you all come to the conclusion??, OH< BECAUSE SO AND SO SAID SO"***

And now that i have an email from them, i will just hang onto that a bit longer before i post its summary. Just so we can weed out the next galacticly stupid assumption based on fiction.

Wow, i can see there wont be many card counters in this building. What a total waste of time and not one comment was even remotely accurate.

I am really irritated by your responses. When someone questions your integrity you say they are making dumb assumptions. You should realize these 'assumptions' are educated guesses based on what you disclosed. You deposited, played and lost yet you had the nerve to ask for your deposit back. Should the members side with you we are doing the community a disservice through coercing the casino to accede to your greediness.

Being antagonistic does not mean you are in the right. If you really do feel aggrieved and you have reasons to be so you must spell them out clearly. Otherwise these 'broad assumptions' are the best members can come up with and who can blame them?
 

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The Op obviously lacks intelligence. They should have learnt the first time. Instead they came back to this forum for seconds :rolleyes: I have no sympathy for this Op after they have insulted various members on this thread.

Has anyone PM'd this thread to the rep?
 
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I'm not sure they even have a rep anymore. Cobus was off for awhile but I don't know if came back or if he's still around or still dealing with the stuff...?
 

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Shouldn't an accredited casino have a rep?

Just checked and Cobus is listed, but he hasn't logged in since April 15th. I suppose someone could always send him a message and see if he's about. Why don't you do it Mark, I'm the one who always bugs him about stuff. ;)
 

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