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Nightmare, absolute Nightmare
Had 'apology' emails from all 3 casinos under the 'Thrills Group'. At least they acknowledge there is a problem I suppose!
Decided to play there Monday and it was almost as bad as Guts, turned it off in the end and went to bed early.
Can't take much more of this and eagerly awaiting my response from Yits after Sunday's shocker, which HAS TO BE THE WORST AND MUST FRUSTRATING, BLOOD BOILING SESSION in 14 YEARS!!!
) session which expresses my 'Worst gambling experience ever' lol remains unanswered as of yet 
Hi Sara
He replied to my 'thank you' from a previous/old/already dealt with PM.
I genuinely do not like to give the guy a hard time as he has always been more than fair with me since he took over at Guts and I know how busy he gets etc....
The latest PM I sent after Sunday's (into Monday too) session which expresses my 'Worst gambling experience ever' lol remains unanswered as of yet
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Please do something!
It might at least help soothe the nerves a little, and provide some modicum of satisfaction. But more than the above at this time (or at least anything substantial and sweeping) I cannot realistically do at this time. I can but work hard, and run late hours and come in on Sundays. I honestly don't appreciate you guys saying that I do not work hard and having moans because I don't answer queries promptly as you would like- I just had to call home from the office and wish the family goodnight over the phone once again, just to give you an idea of why I might have a hard time with that - and that there is a human on this end too. I ask you for a semblance of balance here, and a more balanced approach to me personally..
Hi all,
Firstly, I apologize to everyone for the lack of public updates in past days, but I have learned that if I have nothing particularly informative to say, then I best not say anything at all as it will just cause more frustration for you, and in turn myself. Before getting angry about this statement, please read it again, and understand just how true it is. Any insignificant update to thread by myself, results in an increase in comments and PMs by a factor of 10 - all of which I would not be able to provide a satisfactory answer for at the time. I could of course lie, but that's not really my style (I would probably be a lot more beloved on electronic forums such as these if I routinely engage in glib fantastical statements). So I prefer to keep shtumm.
The reason I do not constantly provide updates, and reply to all messages all the time is because I simply cannot provide tech support - I know I'm the rep, but whether you believe it or not, all I can do is try to channel info to the correct department. Ben may have got more done, but that is also because he is the founder of the whole company - when he says jump, everybody in the company asks how high. There is nothing wrong with that - on the contrary; it is how it should be as he is the guy who gave us all all jobs here, and made it an amazing place to work - but since you are all so very eager to hear that I can be honest about it. And here it is - Ben, and others in senior management, have helped me and captain Rizk confirm that this is a priority 1 issue (and justly so!) - so now, voila, it's internal priority #1. A plethora of discussions and tickets and internal investigations are taking place - this is intermittent for ALL brands running on the central platform (Rizk, Guts, Betspin and some 3rd party brands). I couldn't be more delighted about this, I have been gagging to give you this news, and been asking internally for nothing less.
In any case, there is no central conclusion drawn yet, but as far as I can tell the providers/platforms least affected are Netent, NYX, Evolution, Genii & Play N Go. Quickspin seems slightly more affected, and Greentube, Scientific Games and especially MG/Quickfire seem to be the most affected by slowdowns. Our new yggdrasil games lag a bit on desktop occasionally when testing, but that appears to be because of the withdrawal of flash support in browsers, and will no longer be a problem early next year as flash is phased out. In fact, mobile games seems to function better during this period, I urge all of you to try on mobile/tablet if you are experiencing problems on desktop - and letting us know on thread if it made a difference - this might be extremely helpful information for all of us.
In the meantime, all brands' heavy traffic due to all the Xmas promos and their additional site load, and the huge increase in players logging in to get their free goodies across the board is no doubt slowing things down (not too surprising). They are trying to allocate as much bandwidth into alleviating this somewhat with immediacy, but are looking at an underlying long term plan as well. The platform is growing, so we need to make sure there is more space. The guys in tech work like slaves to achieve this - long nights, weekends, call-ups at 3 AM to attend to issues....you name it. Before the promo launch, tech guys 100 times smarter than myself performed numerous requisite load-bearing tests on our production environment to see if we could handle it all. Those test passed the grade, so we went ahead and launched the promo.
The promo ends pretty soon, and we will likely see a global downturn in traffic across all platform brands - so that might help. Until then we are trying our best; if I had the right to publish here the internal chats, and project ticketing updates I really would, as I would love to be able to show it. But unfortunately I can only ask you to trust me on said developments' veracity, as it isn't possible to do that.
If it helps at all, my person can be your stress ball. Get a little bearded voodoo doll with greying hairs, a Guts hoodie and a saggy belly. Name him Yits and squeeze and pinch him every time you experience lagIt might at least help soothe the nerves a little, and provide some modicum of satisfaction. But more than the above at this time (or at least anything substantial and sweeping) I cannot realistically do at this time. I can but work hard, and run late hours and come in on Sundays. I honestly don't appreciate you guys saying that I do not work hard and having moans because I don't answer queries promptly as you would like- I just had to call home from the office and wish the family goodnight over the phone once again, just to give you an idea of why I might have a hard time with that - and that there is a human on this end too. I ask you for a semblance of balance here, and a more balanced approach to me personally..
In the meantime, as tech do their work to the best of their abilities - I will strive to continue to bring out great promotions and games, and bonus our dear customers so very much more generously than any other casino that I know of, as I have been doing since I joined Guts. In that specific department, I do personally have the power to take responsibility for its continuity within my own means - and therein I will graciously take criticism with more understanding and humility. Because if something goes wrong in that realm or there is a disagreement of sorts - at least it is almost always in my power to do something about, without escalating it to someone else. And I will of course always forward to the relevant parties issues that arrive that are completely out of my control, yet I assure you whilst acting in the best faith possible - and let you know that it is done.
Im off the next two days but will be online at some point to check PMs, DoA tourney and game lag updates, and hopefully be able to provide more answers. So not really off. Sort of off. In meantime I send you all a big casinomeister bear hug, and wish you all the best, truly.
'Tis the season...![]()


If it helps at all, my person can be your stress ball. Get a little bearded voodoo doll with greying hairs, a Guts hoodie and a saggy belly. Name him Yits and squeeze and pinch him every time you experience lagIt might at least help soothe the nerves a little, and provide some modicum of satisfaction. But more than the above at this time (or at least anything substantial and sweeping) I cannot realistically do at this time. I can but work hard, and run late hours and come in on Sundays. I honestly don't appreciate you guys saying that I do not work hard and having moans because I don't answer queries promptly as you would like- I just had to call home from the office and wish the family goodnight over the phone once again, just to give you an idea of why I might have a hard time with that - and that there is a human on this end too. I ask you for a semblance of balance here, and a more balanced approach to me personally..




Had similar at Rizk yesterday. The number of errors I had during a two hour session were greater than at my regular casino's playing over two years.
Didn't mind after all because I made a decent withdrawal out of it, but it certainly put me off playing there again until they sort the errors / lag out.
How are you ment to even win when every few spins there is an error??
I am sure if every time it gave an error than reopen for a big win or get double pay than it would be sorted in a lighting strike. Yet when things work in favour for the casino than the player can suffer

Hey guys,
Updates on the ongoing intermittent problems - couple of the guys on thread here have reported problems at this moment, one example being for DoA not working.
Internally, at this very moment in time, we have received nigh on zero reports to CS in the past 5-6 hours of any sincere lag problems. CS have been instructed to escalate if there is an influx, to try to test as best they can (timepermitting) and let all relevant internal parties know.
Our Network Operations Center (tech hub) is fully informed and actively monitoring and testing.
Please, if you have issues during the rest of the day:
1) If you really want to carry on platying at that moment, change device if possible and see if that makes any difference.
2) Please do not only post here - kindly gently inform support.
3) After doing the regular stuff (if you are willing to), i.e. clearing cache, closing otehr running apps, restarting etc...you see there is no joy, please do not get frustrated and refrain from playing for a bit.
I know this is far from ideal, but just to make you aware that we are taking this all very seriously, as previously stated.
I had the same shit at rizk. Had to withdraw early. Only deposit small and took out abit more but thats not the point I was still charged £2.50. They should not be charging when this is going on. I think they have a cheek to charge in the first place but than its up to us where to chose to play at.
But with this constant errors its disgusting. I not normally moan but geting told a while back its only the select same few thats complain I thought that was wrong. May be we are the only ones that are speaking out but even than nothing was sorted. I been having some good play at rizk or maybe just been lucky on certain days without error but yesterday was terrible.
I know not much can be done at this time of year but it should not matter what time it is if your a 24hr operation than srt it.
How are you ment to even win when every few spins there is an error??
I am sure if every time it gave an error than reopen for a big win or get double pay than it would be sorted in a lighting strike. Yet when things work in favour for the casino than the player can suffer




Yits is the hardest working rep in casino land possibly even the hardest working individual in the world.Unlike all you slouchers this guy works "sundays" and doesn't leave the office till "late" and you need to get things in perspective, bad gameplay at guts/risk pales into significance when you remember there are terrorist atrocities happening all round the world. Lose your money and shut your mouth cause in "yits land" you really don't have much to complain about.


Rizk has been hell this evening, live chat said there were no problems *cough bullshit* and after firing an e-mail to them saying it was unacceptable they closed my account
Thankfully I can reopen my account in the future "if I would like too"
Apparently (according Guts management) only 5% of their global customer base are suffering these lagging issues.

Rizk has been hell this evening, live chat said there were no problems *cough bullshit* and after firing an e-mail to them saying it was unacceptable they closed my account
Thankfully I can reopen my account in the future "if I would like too"
Apparently (according Guts management) only 5% of their global customer base are suffering these lagging issues.
Not a chance! I would like to hear just one player saying that it's working fine. Just one player!![]()

That would probably require an MT Trade secure employee moonlighting in his or her spare time.
As much as they're my faves - I'm staying well away until I know these things are 100% (not 99%) fixed.
Guess I won't get that Mini after all![]()



Rizk has been hell this evening, live chat said there were no problems *cough bullshit* and after firing an e-mail to them saying it was unacceptable they closed my account
Thankfully I can reopen my account in the future "if I would like too"
Apparently (according Guts management) only 5% of their global customer base are suffering these lagging issues.
Rizk has been hell this evening, live chat said there were no problems *cough bullshit* and after firing an e-mail to them saying it was unacceptable they closed my account
Thankfully I can reopen my account in the future "if I would like too"
Apparently (according Guts management) only 5% of their global customer base are suffering these lagging issues.
Hey guys,
Updates on the ongoing intermittent problems - couple of the guys on thread here have reported problems at this moment, one example being for DoA not working.
1) If you really want to carry on platying at that moment, change device if possible and see if that makes any difference.
2) Please do not only post here - kindly gently inform support.

sorry to spoil the party but i played yesterday and the day before at Rizk - no lag, no issues - played DOA, TS2, BoD and the free spin games aloha and second strike.
So it is working fine for some, heavens only knows why......![]()
It always seems to be worse at, what I would guess, is their peak time 19:00-0:00 GMT/CET (especially Friday to Sunday)
Assuming the vast majority of their players are Europeans, who play in the evening.
You're maybe playing outside of those hours, being in a different time zone
sorry to spoil the party but i played yesterday and the day before at Rizk - no lag, no issues - played DOA, TS2, BoD and the free spin games aloha and second strike.
So it is working fine for some, heavens only knows why......![]()
I had a go at rizk yesterday, TS1 / BOK OF RA / KATANA / PYMARID And ran fine, A few days a go it ran terrible, But I will say a played a good bit about a week ago and ran just fine, Which like I said if there running on the exact same outfit as guts than surley its impossible due to guts is alwaays bad.

Played today again at Rizk as i had a few bucks from those endless Christmas Free Spins. Over 1 hour on DOA speed spinning, not a single lag or other issue. Then the balance was down to 0.01.![]()

I asked for one who didn't have an issue and if you can play then it's geolocation. It must be since I'm on a super computer right now but still have problems on all MT casinos.
So three desktops, one laptop, two different cities. All kind of browsers, cleaning as I should and still having problems. Haven't tried today though. Can't decide which one will have the honour
Edit: Guts seems to run fine now. Just disconnects on Raging Rhino but no lag on Netent.
Well, i jumped in and tried Thrills just now.
Horrifically slow spinning on DOA, Quickspin is about the normal speed at VS, but no other lag or interruptions or disconnections.
What is really concerning though is that closing a game does not really close it, it is only a so called "soft closure", the game stays active in the background and if you had it on Autospin it will carry on playing. I only found out when i clicked on that Vault button they have on the left hand side as i wanted to stop DOA and have a look what that means. i had DOA on Autospin and it carried on playing.
Even when i clicked again under Games on DOA it would load it again but the old window would carry on spinning and there was no way whatsoever to return to that window. Only a refresh of the whole site stopped it.
So be careful when you close a game, don't have it on Autospin as it will munch your balance without you knowing especially when you play like me mostly with the sound off.
Harry come on go easy.Yits is the hardest working rep in casino land possibly even the hardest working individual in the world.Unlike all you slouchers this guy works "sundays" and doesn't leave the office till "late" and you need to get things in perspective, bad gameplay at guts/risk pales into significance when you remember there are terrorist atrocities happening all round the world. Lose your money and shut your mouth cause in "yits land" you really don't have much to complain about.
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Was about to ring my internet provider to complain about low speed but i'll leave it till after christmas , the operator on the other end might be a parent with a baby and i'd hate to ruin her evening , actually i'll ring instead and ask if their ok and is there anything i can do for them while playing soft violin music in the background![]()
I dont think its fair to get personal like this,
Yes we know Yits has not been the most active rep, (he has been around more the last few weeks), but I think we all should remember we dont know what goes on in peoples lives.
Absolutely its completely wrong and unprofessional to get personal. That's exactly my point, go look at his posts its him that brings all his personal stuff into it.Why would i or should i or anyone else for that matter care what goes on in someone else's life.He is only dealing here in a professional capacity, if he would stick to doing his job stop telling us about ringing home blah blah blah that would be fine and that is the point of the post.
Think about it what if you go into mcdonalds and you waiting 20mins on your burger and then you get nuggets, do you expect them to tell you "i'm sorry i work long hours,i have a family, just eat your nuggets or if thats no good don't come in for a while".You wouldn't wear that , thats his supervisors job to take care of that internally and ANYBODY who would try to use terrorist atrocities to try and deflect from their own/their companys failings well thats just the lowest of the low in my book which is exactly where i put him/mt secure.
I dont think its fair to get personal like this,
Yes we know Yits has not been the most active rep, (he has been around more the last few weeks), but I think we all should remember we dont know what goes on in peoples lives.

I dont mind listening to any reps tales of woe, it makes them more human to me and makes me realise they are not just robots sat around a computer waiting for complaints from us.
We are talking about a widespread issue here its not like Yits just decided to mess with our gameplay, I just think to finger point at him the way you did was out of line, I am furious with the gameplay myself but your posts really are a little to personal for my liking and thats all I was trying to say
You may not mind listening that's your prerogative i'm using mine to say i do and none of Yits peronal issues have anything to do with dealing with the matter at hand which is exactly why in my opinion he shouldn't of mentioned them.
If you think it's a bit too personal try having him insinuate publicly that your a "multi accounter " and leaving that out there hanging for 8 months without being able to back it up, you will find i take that issue very personally
TBH I dont know what went on there and you probably have a reason to be really mad, but you are commenting in this thread for your own agenda and thats not cool, if you have no gameplay problems at GUTS then why keep commenting in here about how bad the rep is?, its not the reps fault we are in the situation we are so its futile to keep banging on about him
I'm sorry do i have to have gameplay issues with guts to be able to comment?? If that's so why when i had a major issue a few years ago "32 red club rouge for life" were people that hadn't had their club rouge status removed but decided to weigh in,why were they not given a ticking off??? Are the only ones able to comment on threads now those that are directly involved?
I am commenting on an issue as i see it with two top rated casinos who are having major issues and my displeasure at seeing their rep on here try to deflect from those issues by bringing his personal life/problems into it.That is not an "agenda" it is simple fact.I find it unprofessional and actually quite sickening and i made that point that's all. Had he stuck to the issue at hand that didn't directly affect me actually i probably wouldn't have commented, he went "off script" and i'm pulling him on it, simple as that
That BS and you know it, you are just reveling in the fact that everyone has a downer on GUTS, and no we can comment on any thread we like but your posts are agenda laden.
Anyway its Xmas eve and I have presents to wrap, I might pop back in later for Eggnog!

