I'm against seeing them moving from the rogue pit, but people are free to deposit on this casino at their own risks. Personally, I'd see them in your worst section forever.
I've deposited 28 dollars and with a bonus ( I had more to begin wagering), I got to 16,500 dollars on Grand Duke Casino.
When I came to withdraw, I had to give my banks and billings details, until here, looks ok. (Even if I had to put my banks details few times before ) look:
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 05:35:38 +0200
From:
support@grandduke.com
To:
myemail@adress.com
Subject: Your Withdrawal Request
Dear (me)
Unfortunately we are unable to process your wire transfer withdrawal request at this time since there are discrepancies between the information you provided in your gaming account and that which you provided about your bank account.
When you submit another withdrawal request please be sure that all details between accounts are the same (names, states, countries…) and that the bank account number - as well as the Swift code or routing number - are all accurate.
If necessary, you can double check this information with your bank.
Next to this, I sent them an email:
Hello,
I thank you for your message below. Perhaps you was unable to process whit my withdrawal request because I could not enter the entire account IBAN-Number online (on your site) because it dit not accept the full IBAN-Number like the bank gives it here in ***********, but I will send you attached to this message
the entire IBAN - Number and bank-adress, this informations comes directly from the ***-Internet site and is the official bank-adress of my account.
my identity card
the energy-bill with my personal adress to confirm you my adress.
You should know that in our country a bank- account-number is not associated with a town or state (the Swift/Bic - no. is in ******, the account (bank-code/clearing-no.) in ******** and I am living since 2 years in *********.
After reading the attached files, please let me know if it will be OK or if you have any other questions.
Thank you in advance and kind regards,
***
Then look at the actual publicity on Grand Duke Casino, dating from ? 14 June, 2011, about "Dave":
And look back the email date and subject:
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 05:35:38 +0200
Subject: Your Withdrawal Request
Don't you see something wrong? 20 June 2011, still wondering about when I'll get paid, 14 June 2011, "Dave won 16,500 dollars from 28 dollars deposits".
I waited about 1 month or more and latestcasinobonuses.com's admin had to deal with them, putting them under pressure , as an article talking about me under their website before I saw one cent from it:
Wich was a report from Grand Duke Casino's "News".
It was first posted before I saw one cent, but when I told the latestcasinobonuses.com administrator about it, oh, suddently the article was removed as the administrator of this website started dealing with them.
That's how I could get finally paid.
In this month, I've done everything to not to play it again, but usually, I waited maximum 7 to 11 days to get my money, here, I got the same answer, delaying, until one month, the day I was really paid.
As they allowed to withdraw 9.999 dollars a month, I had 6,5k remaining, yea, I should not have play them back, but I played them the day the 9,999 dollars was really on my bank account, I was made aware of this after getting the 6,500 dollars balance to zero.
So, if I'm supposed to be responsible to have play this amount, I must wait one month (or more) to get paid (with Grand Duke under pressure, when no other choices), and the withdrawal is max 9,999 a month, this gives 3 or 4 months to see it all getting paid. I just think about if Grand Duke paid the 9,999 dollars in one week, would it have been such a mess?
I know I would not have wager the remaining amount if they paid in one week (as I did not play when waiting for the first winning until the day payment, about 30 days) it would have been no such as a big deal as emailing them about "What is going on" and as an answer "You know, it's a big amount". Alright, big amount, big luck, the most horrible month in my life, I had to tell myself everyday, WHEN am I gonna be really paid, am I even gonna be paid?
I asked the lcb admin to help, and as he must have get them under pressure and remove their article talking about me, relayed from grandduke website: "Dave", playing "Irish Luck" slots and saying how "support is great" and "quick registration", latestcasinobonuses.com relayed this nice story of someone depositing only 28 dollars and winning 16,500 dollars, but I had not see one cent when I saw this article, all this is fake, support was horrible, they always gave me an answer to delay the payment, I'm not Dave, I didn't play on Irish Luck but that's where I loosed my 6,500 dollars remaining after this article was out. See, even when trying to make them feel credible, I can't, because I loosed 6500 dollars in this slot!
I'm sure that if you, or Grand Duke, don't believe me, just look with Bryan who asked me, 3 months ago, about if I finally got my withdrawal paid, I can write my real name or email adress with I exchanged emails with Brian, if you think that being paid having to wait 1 month when they maximise their withdrawal "per month", you will have to wait 2 months if they keep acting like fools, and 3 or 4 months if your winnings exceed 9,999 of your currency. One month between two payments is fair, waiting one month and having to get you under pressure to get paid , how fair it is, as I waited one month to get the first winnings paid? He (Bryan) asked me 3 months ago if "I got the winnings", and look at when did I win? 8 months before the email asking me if I finally got paid, I answered yes, because I got 9,999 dollars paid, with a big
BUT.
A part of the email I sent to casinomeister, At 04:50 7/2/2011: (2 of July 2011)
"I received an email 10 days ago from the casino manager saying I would have to wait as long as 7 days for my payment to go out of the pending section.It's still on the pending section. They say too "I will send an email again to the management departement" "You will get news soon". It's been 10 days, I got no news, except that I could see on latestcasinobonuses, and grandduke.com, that I am "Dave" and "won 16,5k dollars" and that I said "support is great" "registration is easy and quick".....I didn't say anything at all, I didn't get 1 cent of that money yet."
This I wrote about the past 10 days dealing with them, in the email, I did not mention, you can look by yourself, the 14th June 2011: Dave hit the jackpot!
2 of July 2011: Dave is still wondering about when he is seeing a cent from it!
14th June was when this article came, and I was just beginning to wonder "hey, why am I mentionned now, is it fair?" It is not even legal , as I did not touch one cent at this time, but had done this days or weeks before. To get players to come and loose to be able to pay me ?
One month to make them quit playing with "We will pay you, but not now" (in about 30 days or more, I got my first winnings paid. Congratulations! )
Another to be able to withdraw what will remain (the max per month), and again having to go to ask them to PAY and not to just say "it's a big amount" (count one more month).
I'm almost sure that it was more than 30 days for my only and first (and last) winning on Grand Duke, and it must have been totally fair to get paid (9,999) the day I wagered the remaining amount (6,500), yes, I was tired with it, Grand Duke won on this, I did not want to enter in another month about "pay me? No, we are a casino, not people having money..." Then quit running a casino if you don't have money, and quit ruining the players experience if they dare winning.
I can even give the possibility to have been paid when they saw me playing the remaining amount, not sure, but even if not, nothing fair in waiting for my biggest win of my life in doubt, more than 30 days
When thinking back about it, I was made aware of the payment right after I finished to wager the remaining amount, and the "pending balance" were shown all the month, I'd like to know "when" did you choose to remove it from the pending balance, and why? Just to be nice?
You had me under an enough hard month to be almost sure I would not be strong enough to begin another full of "bullshit" month?
That's a funny excuse coming from a casino, if I come into a real one in my country, and if I hit a 1 million jackpot, if I find the casino's director coming to me "Guy, it's a big amount".
You (Grand Duke) and every casinos are CASINOS, if you have to wait one full month (and false publicity one me) to pay a first and unique 9,999 dollars amount, you have no such good excuse like "It's a big amount." If not, should I run one by myself then?
When I loose on online casinos, it's obvious, I don't ask the casino "Can I know what is your bank details, billing adress, are you a cheater, do you have money?" before depositing, well it's not so fake now to wonder when playing onlines casinos, but my first guess was "If you are an official named casino, you must be fair then." Well, no, unfortunatly.
Let's say I'm starting a casino, will I even tell myself "If someone win big, I'm in trouble". That's not a casino then, just about stealing people, and if they win, like me, on slots only, as you have no excuses from your terms, you know you will have to pay, still you choose the unfair way "Big amount" "we are looking into it" "we will pay". Ok, what about telling everyone that winning here (if not 200 dollars but a big win) you have to wait 30 days to finally get paid, supposing you had made enough money meanwhile, on the winner (false publicity)?
That is what I experimented here, I'm not sure if it was even more than 30 days, so if you play here, be warn , don't win too much, they have no real money behind, they'll wait until they got enough depositors that loosed to be able to pay you, doing everything to push you on the "wondering", "are they going to pay?". Then you'll be angry and ask for big websites making their publicity on you to get them under pressure, I don't call this a casino, just rogues, or worst, rogues having no rules, my worst casino experience in 7 years, and my biggest win of ever, transformed into a nightmare.
Thanks Grand Duke! That was my personal experience on Grand Duke Casino. If Grand Duke Casino wants to say how am I not "Dave" on your publicity, tell me who is this person
Lastly, false publicity, lying still, because I transformed my balance into a higher balance, "winnings" are when you see the cash. Say someone gets his balance to 20'000 and then to 0, will you say "he won 20'000?"
Look at when they write something around, even here you can make your own judgement.
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