General Election 2019 thread

[mack341]

Why do the press fawn over this guy, using staged photos, just take your tracksuits and flip flops and go away. It's the same old crap headlines, where duty is shuffled around on a variety of beverages, although modern politics is enough to drive you to drink so I suppose it is relevant.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Why do the press fawn over this guy, using staged photos, just take your tracksuits and flip flops and go away. It's the same old crap headlines, where duty is shuffled around on a variety of beverages, although modern politics is enough to drive you to drink so I suppose it is relevant.

They can't even get the staged photo-op right.....

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What a couple of uneducated, clueless twerps! You are holding 30L kegs, that are NOT eligible for any of the tax relief that you have announced! You are simply on a mission to cut taxes for global, national and regional brewers - and pubcos! Many small, independent breweries package their beer in 30 litre and 20 litre kegs. In fact, probably all of the small, craft brewers adopt this method. Therefore , under the 40L threshold announce, it disqualifies them from the cut!

Also, well done for promoting a brewery owned by the Australian global beverage company, Lion! So furkin predictable. Pathetic…

 

[goatwack]

What a budget. What a guy.

Trouserless Sprite- drinking Rishy's really pulled it out of the bag, finagling everyone to within an inch of their lives!

I thought it a masterstroke when the Minimum Wage increase was leaked prior to its official announcement. Can't criticize someone that helps those on low incomes.

A particular favourite of mine was the 88p hike on cigarettes, I mean why not pay £13+ for smokes!

This budget's like an evil version of The Price Is Right, where everything is higher.

So in a nutshell, anti- austerity, spend spend borrow spend, low- to middle- income families screwed, mortgages unviable (and good luck to those on variable rates), pensioners left to sit by the road like lepers......there's much, much more but why spoil the surprise.

Let's hear it for Rishy! Huzzah!

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Rishi Sunak explains how the government will be helping 'level up' places like the 'world famous Burnley market', the only slight problem is that he was in Bury when he said it. Still, they're both up North and they both start with 'B' so good enough for the Chancellor Of The Exchequer I suppose.

But wasn't Diane Abbot funny when she got things wrong and everyone piled onto her!

 

[mack341]

Rishi Sunak explains how the government will be helping 'level up' places like the 'world famous Burnley market', the only slight problem is that he was in Bury when he said it. Still, they're both up North and they both start with 'B' so good enough for the Chancellor Of The Exchequer I suppose.

But wasn't Diane Abbot funny when she got things wrong and everyone piled onto her!

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Say what you want about the lamonts, lawsons and ken clarkes of yesteryear, but they wouldn't make this kind of general knowledge error regarding the country they govern; this Sunak guy is part of a new pr obsessed breed, distant from reality, living in a whitehall/downing street bubble. That said his deficiencies are not remotely close to Diane Abbot's

 

[goatwack]

Any politician has the capacity to make themselves look foolish, equal to their peers, at any given moment. The MPs that aren't detached from everyday folk and their problems numbers few.

Yet relatively speaking, I'd find the current state of the women in the Labour party to be woeful, as they seem to revel in outright hostility, lack of professionalism and a need to project, rather than relate or empathize.

Of those, Diane Abbot's proven to be among the most unlikeable they've ever had, to the point where her deeds and rhetoric over the years are just plain indefensible, without listing them all

 

[ChopleyIOM]

A good analysis of how Sunak has given big multinational brewers a sneaky tax cut (which in essence, of course, is paid for by Mr and Mrs Average Joe Taxpayer) with his change on beer duty, which won't be passed onto customers, and will shaft smaller independent brewers.

 

[Kroffe]

Trump should hire that guy.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

The thing is Kroffe sometimes a detailed explanation is required to get to the truth of the matter, and Sunak has essentially tried to deceive everyone with what he announced in his budget on beer duty (and which was slavishly reported by the right wing press without question or critical analysis).

 

[goatwack]

Got to hand it to Boris - he's had a terrific run. But I guess this time the bluster and bravado just ain't gonna cut it!

I think by and large he'd been given rather a lot of leeway in regards to his buffoonery, as this was part of his 'charm'. Turns out though that the Sleaze-O-Meter's at near breaking point however, so much so that emergency debates are being held to account for Boris and his Dream Team's spectacular failings.

Attended by none other than Boris himself......oh no...wait.......he can't make it as he's holed up in the North East. And yet still could make the trip should he choose to!

But then why would he? So drenched in sleaze is his governance that even Labour have regained lost ground, with Keir Starmer gaining traction, whilst Boris sits at his lowest ebb since taking office. I'd be surprised if heads don't roll and Boris is still careering this wreck a year from now...

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[geordiecolin]

Got to hand it to Boris - he's had a terrific run. But I guess this time the bluster and bravado just ain't gonna cut it!

I think by and large he'd been given rather a lot of leeway in regards to his buffoonery, as this was part of his 'charm'. Turns out though that the Sleaze-O-Meter's at near breaking point however, so much so that emergency debates are being held to account for Boris and his Dream Team's spectacular failings.

Attended by none other than Boris himself......oh no...wait.......he can't make it as he's holed up in the North East. And yet still could make the trip should he choose to!

But then why would he? So drenched in sleaze is his governance that even Labour have regained lost ground, with Keir Starmer gaining traction, whilst Boris sits at his lowest ebb since taking office. I'd be surprised if heads don't roll and Boris is still careering this wreck a year from now...

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Meh. Mrs Patel across the road told me just there that Boris was at my door hoping for a quick cuppa and a sly spliff from my cousin but I had been out to pick up a bag of coal

 

[mack341]

He must be doing badly even john major felt able to lecture him on sleaze, yep the 'going back to basics' guy who use to roger one of his cabinet ministers!

 

[geordiecolin]

He must be doing badly even john major felt able to lecture him on sleaze, yep the 'going back to basics' guy who use to roger one of his cabinet ministers!

Edwina just misunderstood the word Mandate

 

[mack341]

just an additional thought came to mind, the covid headlines no longer seem to have boris rushing to the lectern, is that pissing off the media? Because scandals have been going on all year and not had the tories in difficulty, on the other hand a weakened boris will find it tougher going to bring in french/italian style Vax discrimination and segregation measures, so there is that.

 

[goatwack]

Even if there was a snap Election next month and Starmer got in, all you'd find is the same methods being implemented. 6-month Covid emergency powers on a loop, probable 'Papers please' mandates & a load of furious MPs doing not a lot about anything

 

[dunover]

He must be doing badly even john major felt able to lecture him on sleaze, yep the 'going back to basics' guy who use to roger one of his cabinet ministers!

We need to bring back Jeffrey Archer and Jonathan Aitken to raise the standards in government. ASAP.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

SHOCK NEWS - Pathological liar and cheat turns out to still be a pathological liar and cheat even when elevated to the highest office in the land.

On the plus side, at least he 'got Brexit done', apart from all the bits we're still arguing with the EU about and will be for decades to come, and every single one of his 'promises' on that of course turned out to be a total lie.

He's a good gameshow host and participant (I used to enjoy his appearances on Have I Got News For You back in the day), but Prime Minister of the United Kingdom? Fucking hell, what a shitshow.

 

[mack341]

Looking at the alternatives, gove/ jeremy hunt or starmer and labour, the party with a female mp recently found guilty of threatening to attack someone with acid, boris is still safe but if he were a cat he's probably used five of his nine lives.

 

[goatwack]

Still not sure how Claudia Webbe actually got away with that verdict, hopefully they'll vote to fling her out of Parliament.

And therein lies the problem with the Tories, insofar that Doris is almost assured to remain in power as the opposition is lamentable at present.

Were Labour not such a calamity, and actually threatened to displace the Conservatives, then Boris might already be on gardening leave. As it stands, Boris will do whatever Boris wants until even he manages to tie himself in knots, could be a while yet, maybe going into Q1 2023

 

[mcgameboy]

Looking at the alternatives, gove/ jeremy hunt or starmer and labour, the party with a female mp recently found guilty of threatening to attack someone with acid, boris is still safe but if he were a cat he's probably used five of his nine lives.

Let's not forget the other shortcomings of Labour that Chops never wants to mention, like the rampant anti-Semitism.
Or the fact that they didn't have the balls to pin their colours to the mast re: Brexit, a decision that clearly cost them dear at the 2019 GE.

Or the fact that they continue to focus on issues that the UK electorate do not consider to be a priority, like race baiting, race hustling, gender/identity politics and revenge porn.

It is quite telling that the only things that Labour can come up with is Angela Grainer calling Tories scum,
while Dawn Muttler and Diane Flabbott constantly drone on about how racist we all are, all because we didn't vote for a white guy
who dresses like a fucking Geography teacher.

How about coming up with a SOLUTION or becoming an actual VIABLE alternative to the Tories? To which Labour said....

"Oh no! We can't possibly be going around doing things like that!
The UK electorate might actually think we have stumbled upon some level of competence for the first time since....uhm...
when WAS the last time we were competent again?!?!?
Best just wait around until the Tories score one own goal too many and then we will pounce."

And then they somehow find a way to fuck that up too.

Fucking hell, what a shitshow.

Yeah I must admit, I have to agree with you.

Labour really are one fucking hell of a shitshow.....

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Johnson in very impressive form today.

Something something Diane Abbott.

 

[goatwack]

Yes, it was a powerful speech alright, beating his D.U.D.E debut

- and possibly even his Kermit skit




This time we were merely left with 'Daddy Pig' being a bit stereotyped, apparently.

Nothing however will beat this bit of biblical bluster:

...by suggesting he had descended from 'Mount Sinai' to hand civil servants his 10-point plan for achieving Net Zero by 2050

 

[ChopleyIOM]

The man is a national embarrassment, utterly shambolic, unserious, unfocused, lazy, and completely disrespected both at home and abroad.

If a Labour PM did a fraction of the shit that Johnson gets up to, they'd be absolutely ripped to shreds.

Sure, Starmer might be a bit boring, but can anyone, with an even remotely straight face, suggest he'd do a worse job than Johnson?

 

[cncas2123]

The man is a national embarrassment, utterly shambolic, unserious, unfocused, lazy, and completely disrespected both at home and abroad.

If a Labour PM did a fraction of the shit that Johnson gets up to, they'd be absolutely ripped to shreds.

Sure, Starmer might be a bit boring, but can anyone, with an even remotely straight face, suggest he'd do a worse job than Johnson?

But this is the thing, the public has completely lost confidence in Labour after the Corbyn years. The in fighting thats still going on between the far left and the rest of the party is still getting in the way of Labour being an electable party, thus Boris basically has free reign until the 1922 committee get bored with him and get the knives out.
I have only ever voted once in 36 years ( since I was able to vote at age 18) and thats because NI politics is squabbling brats who wave the flags relevant to their community and dont need to have any policy, and to me politics in GB is going exactly the same route re policy, neither major party has a coherent or clear policy and the mantra from both parties is " if you dont vote for us you will get them".
Sad state of affairs all round.

 

[dunover]

The man is a national embarrassment, utterly shambolic, unserious, unfocused, lazy, and completely disrespected both at home and abroad.

If a Labour PM did a fraction of the shit that Johnson gets up to, they'd be absolutely ripped to shreds.

Sure, Starmer might be a bit boring, but can anyone, with an even remotely straight face, suggest he'd do a worse job than Johnson?

Yes.