UK Conservative Party Leadership Election

[dunover]

Diane Abbott just put her hoover on eBay.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Hot on the heels of whispering Starmer's Speaker subterfuge in view to curry favour with peaceful Gaza-adjacent 'protestors', it seems as though ol' George Galloway decided to go one better and stick it to his former Labour pals by winning the Rochdale by-election with the Workers Party of Britain!

Quite how the cat cosplayer intends to make his case for Gaza in Parliament is unclear, but it does seem to signify the ability to steal off what could be future Labour hotspots, for better or for worse, and how easily it can be achieved....

Miaow?...

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Labour's support is very 'soft', as much as they might be massively ahead in the polls at the moment, and as likely as that is to carry forward to a general election, the fact is that by far the most popular political party going into the election will be 'Not The Fucking Tories' rather than Starmer's uninspiring Labour offering, or any of the other main political parties, for that matter.

As such whackjobs like Galloway may well find an opening in a limited number of seats, although I'd expect most voters to return to the mainstream fold come election day, plus there won't be a viable wildcard offering in most seats anyway.

It's very much a reflection on the dismal state of politics in the UK, and whilst we're almost certainly looking at a Starmer led Labour government after the next general election, I for one don't have particularly high hopes for them enacting much in the way of the transformative change the UK needs to get back on track.

 

[goatwack]

Chancellor impostor Jezza Hunt unveiling the most underwhelming Budget in recent times as tax burdens hurtle towards post-WWII records regardless.

With the previous 21 Budgets having been about growth, it surprised almost no one that this one would hail a new era of......growth.

Deploying the tried & tested method of raising taxes prior to lowering them, plebs were seen rejoicing in the streets as they were on average set to be circa £12-30 p/m better off due to NI cuts.

Obviously not wanting to alienate the all-encompassing demographic of alcohol partakers, Hunt made this miracle happen by upping smokers' misery, with vaping now fair game too, so in effect, a classic pincer movement of punishing the poor!

Rumours that aides in No.11 not wanting him back in the building after an awkward 5-second wait are yet to be confirmed

 

[slot_zombie]

Just fiddling around the edges, without any sort of long term plan to lift the country out its severe economic and social problems. Remember when we actually used to make things?

This, or the red rosette lot replacing them come the next election. We are truly finished.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

A picture speaks a thousand words, and all that.

Nice to see the UK has done so well since finally taking back control from the evil EU in Jan 2020.

 

[goatwack]

Another stunning development on Twitter as Keir Starmer and veteran rapper Ice-T of all people have a spat.

Legend has it Starmer criticised Ice-T's musical influence and blurb as having a 'corrosive effect on the youth', with the latter being completely oblivious to the fact that it was posted via a spoof Twitter account named Women4Wes.

This in turn drew the ire of Ice-T, who in turn responded with, quote, "F this clown".

Imagine being this wrong, yet so right!

 

[TheAddict]

I always think of this movie when someone mentions Ice T, I may well watch it later,



It's also a great sport to use as punishment for traitorous politicians.

 

[goatwack]

Flipping hell. Look at the cast in that film!

Rutger Hauer, Charles Dutton, F. Murray Abraham and Gary Busey among others, wtf

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Another stunning development on Twitter as Keir Starmer and veteran rapper Ice-T of all people have a spat.

Legend has it Starmer criticised Ice-T's musical influence and blurb as having a 'corrosive effect on the youth', with the latter being completely oblivious to the fact that it was posted via a spoof Twitter account named Women4Wes.

This in turn drew the ire of Ice-T, who in turn responded with, quote, "F this clown".

Imagine being this wrong, yet so right!

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It appears the British public have more important things on their minds.....

Yeah I know, polls polls polls, and this is probably an outlier at the low end of support for the Tories, but this really is existential territory we're talking about here.

Maybe the Tories just need to lean more into the argument that the fucked state of the UK is the fault of a few desperate brown people in boats and women with penises, because it's working very well so far.

 

[TheAddict]

I don't blame the mentally ill people who decide to cut their dick or tits off, or those that decide to mutilate their arm so they can use the skin from their arm to create something that, when you're drunk, might , depending on how drunk of course, might resemble some similarities of a penis. I don't blame them for helping to corrode society, for being vulnerably led astray.
There are enablers and peope pushing this shit, trying to convince people it's normal. And the slippery slope of degeneracy as a result of people ignoring it being pushed, is all too plain to see.

 

[goatwack]

Theresa May, she of soft Brexit and warbly indecision, has left the political world in collective shock as she vacates her Maidenhead seat at the next General Election and robot-dances away from being an MP.

Word on the street's that she'll pursue campaigning against human trafficking and slavery, instantly quashing any affiliation with Labour in the process.

Laters, Theresa!

 

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A bogus asylum seeker appears on the shores of Dover where he is greeted by a good fairy who decides to grant him 3 wishes.

The invader says "I'm hungry!" and POW! a long table with a banquet appears in front of him.

He then says "I want a nice house" and POW! a 6-bed detached with a swimming pool appears.

"My final wish" he says "is to be British" at which point the banquet and house vanish in a puff of smoke.

"What's happened" says Ahmed?

"You're British now pal and entitled to FUCK-ALL!"

 

[slot_zombie]

There are enablers and peope pushing this shit, trying to convince people it's normal. And the slippery slope of degeneracy as a result of people ignoring it being pushed, is all too plain to see.

The main culprit being our very own cash-srrapped NHS, which wastes thousands pushing this dangerous ideology on its own workforce: and millions on transformation/surgery under the coy banner of "specialised commissioning".

What is striking is how generally unhappy (and often mentally unwell/depressed) the recipients of all this funding often are. Both before and after.

Source: I work around the fringes of it all, if not directly involved.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

A story in four parts. Same writer, same newspaper.

To give credit to Starmer and co, they played their cards just right on Brexit. All they had to do was sit back, not make much in the way of controversial noises, and wait for the whole thing to fall apart, and take the Tories with it.

Or in other words, they listened to what all those experts were saying, and unlike Gove, who said we were bored of them and should ignore them, they were like, 'OK, well if these guys are right, and they're the experts after all, literally all we have to do, is wait'.






Epilogue.

 

[mack341]

A story in four parts. Same writer, same newspaper.

To give credit to Starmer and co, they played their cards just right on Brexit. All they had to do was sit back, not make much in the way of controversial noises, and wait for the whole thing to fall apart, and take the Tories with it.

Or in other words, they listened to what all those experts were saying, and unlike Gove, who said we were bored of them and should ignore them, they were like, 'OK, well if these guys are right, and they're the experts after all, literally all we have to do, is wait'.

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Epilogue.

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If the govt had carefully explained in 2015 that they would need to allow in between 1-2 million non EU migrants because of brexit, they might have got a different result.

Still it is nice not to feel like your country has to jump whenever the EU says so, though again that might've been more of a uk problem, whereas other countries drag their heels or apply a bit more common sense re interpretation of rules, we never did.

Basically our country is run by a bigger version of the ukgc, depression/feel good levels are way down the international chart.

I don't think still being in the EU would necessarily have put a grin on people's faces though. All the uk's problems were there while we were members, but unhelpfully the govt has chosen to add to them.

 

[goatwack]

Yes, taking four separate articles out of context to form a little narrative chain, when the last article literally begins with "Britain’s decline over the past 25 years has been staggeringly rapid"

So going by his apparent overview, we can safely assume Labour started the decline a decade prior to the Tories then, no?

Other mentions include a Socialist NHS - so nothing new there - crumbling public services, modern life apathy (technology), rampant rent increases, general attitude shifts in a quarter of a century, culture wars, the 'Green' agenda bequeathed upon people etc, amongst other things.

And still.....nothing about Brexit

But to his credit, he definitely got it right with "The Tories have been abysmal, but Labour will be even worse".

Now that's great insight!

 

[dunover]

So we have an election, and just to assuage voter apathy we can choose between 3 or 4 different heads of the same hydra. Fuck 'em all.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Yes, taking four separate articles out of context to form a little narrative chain, when the last article literally begins with "Britain’s decline over the past 25 years has been staggeringly rapid"

So going by his apparent overview, we can safely assume Labour started the decline a decade prior to the Tories then, no?

Other mentions include a Socialist NHS - so nothing new there - crumbling public services, modern life apathy (technology), rampant rent increases, general attitude shifts in a quarter of a century, culture wars, the 'Green' agenda bequeathed upon people etc, amongst other things.

And still.....nothing about Brexit

But to his credit, he definitely got it right with "The Tories have been abysmal, but Labour will be even worse".

Now that's great insight!

For sure it's a bit cheeky of me to link them together like that, but one of the biggest cheerleaders for Brexit is hardly going to identify it as one of the culprits as to the cause of the UK's current situation. What is not controversial, is to say it's cost the UK around 5% of its GDP, which represents tens of billions of pounds in lost trade and taxes, as well as being one of the driving forces behind inflation. (And as mack notes above, we've just replaced EU immigration with non-EU immigration.)

Brexit is certainly not the only cause of the UK's current ills, it's one of many factors, but as per the living standards chart I posted a couple of weeks ago, this is the only parliament since 1955 where UK living standards have fallen.

It's not even like it makes me happy to be 'right' on this (I mean, I didn't have a fucking clue about any of this stuff back in 2016, I just deferred to the people who were clearly experts in the field, that's the point of having experts, after all), because the fact that Brexit has failed means that the UK has taken a serious body blow and sustained heavy damage as a result, which since I'm, y'know, a Brit myself, doesn't make me jump for joy.

 

[mack341]

For sure it's a bit cheeky of me to link them together like that, but one of the biggest cheerleaders for Brexit is hardly going to identify it as one of the culprits as to the cause of the UK's current situation. What is not controversial, is to say it's cost the UK around 5% of its GDP, which represents tens of billions pounds in lost trade and taxes, as well as being one of driving forces behind inflation. (And as mack notes above, we've just replaced EU immigration with non-EU immigration.)

Brexit is certainly not the only cause of the UK's current ills, it's one of many factors, but as per the living standards chart I posted a couple of weeks ago, this is the only parliament since 1955 where UK living standards have fallen.

It's not even like it makes me happy to be 'right' on this (I mean, I didn't know a fucking thing about any of this stuff back in 2016, I just deferred to the people who were clearly experts in the field, that's the point of having experts, after all), because the fact that Brexit has failed means that the UK has taken a serious body blow and sustained heavy damage as a result, which since I'm, y'know, a Brit myself, doesn't make me jump for joy.

I may have missed it but did these experts come up with any solutions or suggestions for the problems people experienced [e.g. Around access to public services/demand, increased crime etc] which they began to strongly connect with membership of the EU [especially after its expansion eastwards].

You can't tell just people to suck it up and only think of GDP discussions.
['you' as in these experts and the pro EU remain contingent]

Maybe some of the UK's longstanding problems also impact attracting investment from outside, which would increase gdp.

 

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[ChopleyIOM]

Here's someone who did actually go to Rwanda, James Cleverly spent £165K of public money flying there and back to sign a document.

Total costs of the Rwanda scheme are shaping up to be around half a billion pounds. Bargain!

So far of course, they've sent precisely no one there. Well, apart from James Cleverly. Suella had a jolly out there too didn't she.

 

[dunover]

Here's someone who did actually go to Rwanda, James Cleverly spent £165K of public money flying there and back to sign a document.

Total costs of the Rwanda scheme are shaping up to be around half a billion pounds. Bargain!

So far of course, they've sent precisely no one there. Well, apart from James Cleverly. Suella had a jolly out there too didn't she.

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Cleverly is a complete twat.

When the unopposed cross-channel invasion of England slowed slightly in January, he claimed it as a success for the government's (non) policy regarding the colonization of our lands.

Of course, it was down to the islamo-African Operation Sea Lion having to be suspended due to inclement weather conditions in the English Channel.

The bloke is a totally useless c*nt.

Politicans fiddle while Europe burns.

 

[mcgameboy]

Well at least Leo WEFaradkar resigned (good riddance you f*cking c*nt, hope you die in a fire...slowly).
One down, way too many still to go.

PS Can anyone lend me a couple of bob? I have to donate to the swear box....

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Here's what twelve years of austerity look like.

New Labour weren't perfect, not by a long chalk, but in 2010 you could easily see your doctor, and if you went to A&E you were almost guaranteed to be seen within four hours. If you called an ambulance you'd almost always have one at your door in a few minutes if you were in the most serious category for attendance.

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This has been doing the rounds the last couple of days, it's footage of people complaining to Tony Blair that they were being forced to see their doctor too quickly when trying to book an appointment.

Now there is a wider point here that the target of 48 hours was leading to some inflexibility where people wanted an appointment further out than 48 hours, and Blair says if that's happening it's a problem and it's not how the system is intended to work, and he'll look into it.

But the fundamental point remains that, in essence, people were complaining they were getting to see their doctor too quickly.

The Tories were banging on recently about an aspirational TWO WEEK target to see your GP. Under New Labour, they basically had 48 hours or less locked in.

These problems are fixable, but it needs the political will to make it happen.