Connect To Casino....Do Not Play

[jpm]

Caruso, you are right on the mark with this one. Bethug, you are doing a bit of what you are accusing the casino of doing. You led us to believe that connectocasino STOLE $100 from your credit card. You didn't make it clear that this was $100 you deposited at destinationpoker that came thru on the bill as being from CTC. They didn't steal anything from you, you gambled it and lost, and they perhaps lied about their affiliation with CTC, seems like the jury is still out on that one.

I just looked up the whois information on the owners of these 2 domains, and they are totally different. Their name servers are totally different as well. Their IP addresses (ping connectocasino.com and ping destinationpoker.com) are different. The two IP addresses are, however, hosted by the same company (Everyones Internet, Inc.) using the same subnet. But then again, so are over 8000 other IP addresses, so thats not conclusive either. That their email header says it comes from CTC isn't totally conclusive, since it could be one central email server that this internet company is using and the dns entry was the first done and therefore comes back as CTC.

They may have lied about their affiliations, but they did not steal anything from you. You need to supply all of the relevant facts when you accuse someplace of being thieves.

 

[bethug]

It think u need to re read my post jpm, for one.
Connect2 casino denies any thing to do with destination poker and that is who is on my statement right now. Since u have nothing to do with destination poker , why are they on my statement. and if you calle the 1800 number it connects to connecto casino and not destination poker, but the same person will pic up. I have no reason to mis lead any one. I was mislead to think that destination poker had nothing to do with connect to casino.

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6/7/2004 5:08:39 AM Settled Authorization FRY'S ELECTRONICS #5 \3600 SEPULVEDA BLFRY'S ELECTRONICS # MANHATTEN BCH CA - $40.07
6/3/2004 3:09:50 AM Settled Authorization AT&T Wireless Services\2730 LIBERTY AVE AT&T Wireless Services 800-8887600 WA - $51.53
6/3/2004 1:18:10 AM Settled Authorization WWW.CONNECTOCASINO.COM\\18002708504\RH4 WWW.CONNECTOCASINO.COM 18002708504 GBR - $100.00
6/2/2004 3:14:20 AM Settled Authorization AOL*CREDIT ALERT\\888-289-6318\20166 AOL*CREDIT ALERT 888-289-6318 VA - $9.00
6/1/2004 4:30:20 PM Payment SwiftPay $86.00
6/1/2004 4:22:55 PM Fee Load Fee - $5.95
6/1/2004 1:18:22 AM Settled Authorization BRAVENET.COM\5A-281 E ISLAND HWY CP 17\PBRAVENET.COM PARKSVILLE CAN - $4.95
5/28/2004 3:11:03 AM Settled Authorization PACIFIC WEST ASSOCIATI\702 TOWN AND COUNPACIFIC WEST ASSOCIATI ORANGE CA - $15.00
5/25/2004 1:22:29 AM Settled Authorization WWW.INETBET.COM\\KENT\45855 ISRISR WWW.INETBET.COM >KENT ISR - $100.00

 

[jetset]

We sought clarification on this email header thing, and whilst Jeffrey Wallace did not answer that directly other than saying they have the same host he did give the additional tidbit of information that Connect To Casino "lent us a helping hand" at one time. This is, if memory serves me correctly a similar line to that taken by Cirrus when its relationship with Virtual was being questioned.

 

[dominique]

Bethug,

the gripe that you do have is that you asked them if they had any sister casinos. If they had answered yes, connectto, you would not have deposited.

They said no. So you deposited. You are chagrined about being lied to, since you would not have chosen to play there if they were sisters. I agree with that. You do have a right to know this. You did call them thieves, which they are not. They may be liars though, for all we know. In any case, I doubt they will give you $100. Even though in real life their lie may have been considered false advertising.

Ok, so maybe they are not sisters. I am still kind of suspecting that they may temporarily share a licence as well as some other stuff since Destination is so new.

Caruso, you make an excellent point also. It's the old thing about crying wolf - if you cry wolf too often when there is no wolf, then no one will pay attention to you when there really is one. It is wise to investigate thoroughly before going off.

Bryan, I am also aware of these type connections. I find them not limited to RTG though. I've stumbled across this elsewhere when there was trouble.

Marco - I thought you had already sent Caruso your italian version of things, and he read it and answered it. Persistence can be a virtue - but you also got to know when to fold'em. And it's time. If you keep running around the internet writing about connectto eventually no one will believe anything you say.

 

[bethug]

dom , i still see about 3 people getting jack around from them, and one i know

 

[dickens1298]

And I know one of them was just recently resolved. Marco's issue is in a category unto itself...

dom , i still see about 3 people getting jack around from them, and one i know

 

[marcolino]

Marco ... Persistence can be a virtue - but you also got to know when to fold'em. And it's time. If you keep running around the internet writing about connectto eventually no one will believe anything you say.

I write becouse I am convinced that they must to me my winnings. (4000)

And more the bonus of the promotion of WU (10300)

 

[marcolino]

They are in the midst of working on the new complaint section. In the meantime use this URL Link Removed ( Old/Invalid)

Please let me know how this goes.

I have send the form the day 26st May 2004 but up to now without answer

 

[dominique]

dom , i still see about 3 people getting jack around from them, and one i know

Well, with wol being down I haven't been back there. These threads are getting very convoluted. For every one note someone leaves, Marco leaves three or more. There are a number of threads going at the same time. It is getting to be difficult to keep track of any real issues. They may have totally slipped past me.

Who is not getting paid, Bethug? Do you have some facts to share?

 

[marcolino]

Marco...

Excuse me Dominique but I don't know what is your problem

 

[dominique]

Never mind Marco, there is no point in repeating myself - again.

It appears that Pokermike and ohdreampop got paid.

That leaves marco's complaints and bethugs complaints about non-disclosed pertnership between two casinos.

 

[bethug]

dom read these post at wol

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It might be a whole bunch of people gettig jack around, Alot of people dont visit forums.

Look what swim said. that is bull crap if i ever seen it.

 

[caruso]

That WOL thread is so full of incorrect statements, outright supposition and general nonsense from all concerned it's really not worth commenting on.

 

[dominique]

Well, I am going to sit back and watch for a while before commenting again.

 

[marcolino]

I have send the form the day 26st May 2004 but up to now without answer

Excuse me ,

how many time need Disputes of RTG for one answer?

 

[marcolino]

Excuse me ,

how many time need Disputes of RTG for one answer?

yesterday after beyond two weeks the answer of disputes has arrived that says:

"We understand your urgency, but it can take up to several weeks to work
through this whole process. Please be patient while we work to resolve
this issue. Thanks.

The Player Dispute Team"

Well - I will wait for...we hope that connectocasino it does not close before

 

[marcolino]

A question: if connectocasino between little time it is closed... What can I make for my disputes with they?

 

[marcolino]

One problem more about connectocasino/portofino/hampton

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Say:

-"THIS IS A WARNING ABOUT PORTOFINO CASINO & THE SISTER SITE HAMPTON CASINO.

Do not deposit at these casinos they do not pay their winners. I have been lied to and messed with for almost 2 months about a cash in I had.

They also lured me in by opening an account for me at Portofino Casino using my Hampton Casino Account number only adding a B at the end. They included this information in a email they sent me with a deposit promo in it. I took them up on the promo and I cashed out 1500 dollars but now they say I have multiple accounts which I
DO NOT. They also locked my account which also had over 300 dollars in it.

Deposit at these casinos at your own risk, but I would not expect to be paid if you win. Just like THE VIRTUAL CASINO group.. "-

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... incredible

 

[marcolino]

It think u need to re read my post jpm, for one.
Connect2 casino denies any thing to do with destination poker and that is who is on my statement right now. Since u have nothing to do with destination poker , why are they on my statement. and if you calle the 1800 number it connects to connecto casino and not destination poker, but the same person will pic up. I have no reason to mis lead any one. I was mislead to think that destination poker had nothing to do with connect to casino.

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Bethug

another history similar to your history:

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Say:

-"Can anyone help me out with these guys. They accepted my PrePaid ATM deposit and will not credit my account!!! "-

 

[caruso]

I'm starting to rethink my position here. I'd had almost a year of trouble-free play, regular payments when I won (I've lost many times but am currently ahead) and accountable owners. Things now seem to be taking a turn for the worse.

 

[jpm]

Portofino is turning into quite the rogue, they simply refuse to pay legitimate winnings. They have repeatedly lied to both my and Bryan regarding my cashin, and I'm waiting for RTG to resolve this for me. Unfortunately for Portofino, I have screenshots of the logs to prove my case. They will be hard pressed to refute them without modifying the logs, which would gain them immediate rogue status I would hope!

 

[marcolino]

Portofino is turning into quite the rogue, they simply refuse to pay legitimate winnings. They have repeatedly lied to both my and Bryan regarding my cashin, and I'm waiting for RTG to resolve this for me. Unfortunately for Portofino, I have screenshots of the logs to prove my case. They will be hard pressed to refute them without modifying the logs, which would gain them immediate rogue status I would hope!

Have you change your opinion about connecto/portofino/hampton/DP ?

 

[bethug]

connect to casnino and there sister casinos , play way to many games

 

[jpm]

Have you change your opinion about connecto/portofino/hampton/DP ?

I don't think I had a positive opinion about them, and the only one I ever played at was portofino. They were ok a couple of years ago, didn't give me any troubles when cashing in then, but they definitely SUCK now!

 

[caruso]

Is anybody currently getting ANY kind of a response from these people? They've totally dried up on me. Both Vince and John used to reply in timely fashion - I can't get anything from either of them now. At least in terms of my own experiences here this has suddenly taken a worrying turn for the worse. They seem to have all completely vanished.

 

[cipher]

Is anybody currently getting ANY kind of a response from these people? They've totally dried up on me. Both Vince and John used to reply in timely fashion - I can't get anything from either of them now. At least in terms of my own experiences here this has suddenly taken a worrying turn for the worse. They seem to have all completely vanished.

Hope everything works out well Caruso but nothing and I do mean nothing would surprise me in this instance.

 

[caruso]

John still reads the boards even though he's no longer posting - he initiated a PM exchange with the result that my issue, a slightly overdue cashout and lack of Email response, is now on the way to being settled.

Any other players with cashout concerns / questions would do worse than contacting him via PM here at Casinomeister. He can get things moving quickly.

 

[marcolino]

Any other players with cashout concerns / questions would do worse than contacting him via PM here at Casinomeister. He can get things moving quickly.

Connectocasino and John Spears, they do not answer and I think also of knowing why they do not make it

 

[marcolino]

I don't think I had a positive opinion about them, and the only one I ever played at was portofino. They were ok a couple of years ago, didn't give me any troubles when cashing in then, but they definitely SUCK now!

Portofino?

See this:

I am going through a horrible experience with them as well. Portofino is a HORRIBLE SITE! I deposited my money and didn't even play yet when I decided that I wanted my money back and went through the annoying procedures they require for cashing out. After sending them a lot of information, license, copy of utility bill, they claimed some bullshit about an investigation into multiple accounts and this has been dragging on for almost 2 months. I have not even played a single dime and yet these people refuse to return my initial deposit! These people will hold your money for randsom! They are nothing but thieves!

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[pokermaven]

But in truth I do not have debits with they.

Marco. I seriously suggest you spend some of the money you waste gambling on learning the English Language. It just pains me to see the English Language so twisted and jumbled up by a person who clearly has the resources to learn how to read and write the language properly.

P.S

It seems you have a ton of money to give away to these ripoff rtg casinos. How about making a donation to someone who can actually put the money to good use?

 

[marcolino]

Marco. I seriously suggest you spend some of the money you waste gambling on learning the English Language. It just pains me to see the English Language so twisted and jumbled up by a person who clearly has the resources to learn how to read and write the language properly.

P.S

It seems you have a ton of money to give away to these ripoff rtg casinos. How about making a donation to someone who can actually put the money to good use?

Thank You for the suggestions

Excuse for my English but I'm Italian and I speak well only Italian and Spanish, but I have intention to learn in 2005 the English Language.

Donation: Good Idea... When connectocasino pay my winnings I have intention to make this for a total of 50% - Thank You

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The problem is not my English language but that connectocasino don't want pay my winnings and your debits

 

[padanian]

At least Marco can write a few lines. How many English speaking would be able to post in Italian or other foreign forums?!?

 

[jpm]

At least Marco can write a few lines. How many English speaking would be able to post in Italian or other foreign forums?!?

Amen to that! :notworthy

 

[pokermaven]

Quote:
Originally Posted by padanian
At least Marco can write a few lines. How many English speaking would be able to post in Italian or other foreign forums?!?


Amen to that!
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jpm

True, but I am not about to go to a Italian message board, speaking a language I am not that familiar with.

 

[dickens1298]

True, but I am not about to go to a Italian message board, speaking a language I am not that familiar with.

I've butted heads with Marco before, and personally disagree with his approach vis-a-vis C2C, but I DO have to give him props for at least TRYING to communicate on this board.

...and candidly, his grammar/spelling isn't much worse than some of the others I've seen here and other message boards...

 

[marcolino]

Thanks to all

But the problem is that connectocasino does not want pay the winnings and your debits.

Moreover another problem is the news that I have about connectocasino.

I am very worried about this.

 

[jpm]

True, but I am not about to go to a Italian message board, speaking a language I am not that familiar with.

But if that is the only place you can get help with your problem, and its an italian only board, you'd have to do the best you can with their language, which is what I think he's doing here.

 

[marcolino]

Update

Update:

Connectocasino at this moment:

Does not answer...

Does not pay my winnings...

Does not pay yor debits.

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RTG disputes team

Don't answer: they say that they have need of many weeks. ( ??? )

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Finally: connectocasino doesn't pay the winnings and your debits

 

[The Dude]

Marco. I seriously suggest you spend some of the money you waste gambling on learning the English Language. It just pains me to see the English Language so twisted and jumbled up by a person who clearly has the resources to learn how to read and write the language properly.

P.S

It seems you have a ton of money to give away to these ripoff rtg casinos. How about making a donation to someone who can actually put the money to good use?

Pokermaven,

How many languages are you capable of reading, writing, and speaking? The reason I'm asking is that language is a damn hard thing to master - especially English.

English (and German) are the two languages used here in this forum - and about a third of the posters have other languages as their mother tongue besides English. And as for the lurkers, there are a damn lot coming from countries other that an English speaking one.

Sometimes I butcher the hell out of German, but I will still get my point across. If someone were to rag on me to speak/write better German - all it would do is piss me off.
:sniper:

Let's not worry so much about punctuation, and grammar - especially those challenged by a foreign language - there are many US/UK born members here who can't even put a simple sentence together - and I don't hassle them. Let's not hassle the English as a second language members, okay?

 

[Sodax77]

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[gfkostas]

Pokermaven,

How many languages are you capable of reading, writing, and speaking? The reason I'm asking is that language is a damn hard thing to master - especially English.

You found English difficult to master? Try Greek
By being a greek beast I can assure you that we greeks have one of the most difficult languages to master or at least that's what I think.

Btw with this thread we will soon surpass the Pirate posting in terms of thread views

 

[dickens1298]

You found English difficult to master? Try Greek
By being a greek beast I can assure you that we greeks have one of the most difficult languages to master or at least that's what I think.

Btw with this thread we will soon surpass the Pirate posting in terms of thread views

nahh... English is by far the worst because despite its rules and conventions, there really ARE no rules and conventions - it reflects the potpourri from which it sprang (Old English, Latin, Greek, et al).

My father has an interesting anecdote on the vagaries of English. When he first came to the States, he asked for a burger at a fast food joint. Except he pronounced it "bur - jer", applying the rule that a "g" before an "e" is soft.

The clerk corrected him, telling him the correct pronounciation. Of course, my father then applied this logic and said -

"Oh.. excuse me, but I'm a 'strangur' in town." [pronouncing "stranger" with a hard "g"]

Toss in the idioms, grammar conventions/exceptions, and which preposition goes with which noun/adjective (note that Chinese and Japanese don't even HAVE prepositions), and it's a wonder that anyone can master the language at all.

 

[jpm]

I think that inflected pictographic languages such as Chinese and its various dialects have any of the latin based languages beaten hands down.

 

[Sodax77]

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[marcolino]

I have had a information, from an other RTG-casino, than connectocasino and all theirs casinos are in order to close.

Someone knows to say something about?

 

[Sodax77]

You found English difficult to master? Try Greek
By being a greek beast I can assure you that we greeks have one of the most difficult languages to master or at least that's what I think.

Btw with this thread we will soon surpass the Pirate posting in terms of thread views

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Nice weather, isn't it??
off topic???

Don't give up Marcolino (and others)

 

[marcolino]

off topic???

Don't give up Marcolino (and others)

Excuse me Sodax,

I have one problem with connectocasino.

They don't want pay my leggitimate winnings and don't pay the debits that they have to my favor...

I don't understand what is your problem and what you want

Excuse me

Have a nice day

 

[The Dude]

Hi marcolino,

Have you complained to RTG's complaint center yet? Nothing will be done unless you do.

 

[marcolino]

Hi marcolino,

Have you complained to RTG's complaint center yet? Nothing will be done unless you do.

Yes - I make this.

In the day 26th May 2004.

Without answer.

Only this answer in the day 11 - June 2004:

-"We understand your urgency, but it can take up to several weeks to work
through this whole process. Please be patient while we work to resolve
this issue. Thanks.

The Player Dispute Team" -


But at this moment without answer.

Thank you

 

[jpm]

Me too with my Portofino problem. Still waiting for some update from RTG after 2 followup requests.