Connect To Casino....Do Not Play

I totally agree ;-)

Lolit said:
Took some time to read all the rules again.
I totally agree with that. First I was in great trouble to get the rules ... then I got the rules and I don't have any complaint about the payment.

What I like about the casino very much is that you can play days and days without being a so-called "high-roller". If you win, fine ... if not, okay ... I just had fun ;-)
 
No problems here

Just want to put in a good experience to balance out some of the bad. I have been playing connecto for a while and have claimed almost two dozen bonuses from them. I have won a nice bit of money by working around their rules and they have always paid me exactly the amount expected. After the first time with the fvf, the payouts have been very speedy, usually 1-2 days. (I once got paid by connecto THREE times in the time it took for a bungled cashout from the incompetent Lucky Emperor folks.) I have contacted their CS a few times and they have always been very helpful. Somehow I have been not yet been banned for my "wise" play, and I guess I'll keep plugging away until I am.

I am not suggesting this casino to anyone, as it is a regular generator of player complaints, but I am pointing out that not everyone is getting burned here. If they didn't have the max cashout rules then these guys would be making my house payment . . .

And I will second what Caruso is saying. 90% of all the connecto complaints we hear are player problems, not casino problems. Connecto desperately needs to reform the way they handle the 10% that are real problems, though.
 
ohdreampop , from wol has not been paid and the jacking her around. There is way to many complaints. I think they running out of money, they bought out hampton, then purchase destination poker casino.
 
Bethug, I did not know that dreampop had not been paid. I will have to catch up on my reading on Monday.

I am always prepared to eat my words. :eek:
 
I don't often support Bethug's views but on this occasion I am beginning to have some serious doubts about Connect 2's relationship with Destination Poker that has so strenuously been denied.

After following Bethug's posts at WOL I forwarded a media enquiry to both John Spears at C2 and Jeffrey Wallace at Destination.

Spears denied any connection with Destination, nad said the dispute was a screw-up at the bank and that C2 had never received Bethug's money. He said that he had personally contacted Wallace on the issue, which had nothing to do with him.

Wallace said that Destination has no relationship with Connect2, but that Bethug's account had not been unjustly debited - he says Bethug deposited and lost $100 and then complained when the debit shoewd up on his statement with a mistaken Connect2 annotation, and that he has continued to kick up a fuss despite a bonus of $50 (?????) He is prepared to release logs to prove the $100 transaction he says.

But here's something in addition to the same voice Support that Bethug reports, and it makes me think we are not getting all the facts here - the email headers from Wallace include the following:

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X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: jeffrey@destinationpoker.com via
nobelium.telkomsa.net
X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.16 (Clear:. Processed in 0.543587 secs)
Received: from connecttocasino.com (HELO mail.connectocasino.com)
([69.57.141.226])
 
Jetset, The only thing i dont see we dont agree on is the seal issue.

Like i said,50 or 100 bucks not issue, before i play at any casino , i calls and ask do they have a sister casino . I lost my 100 depoist at destination poker, look on my statement bam connenct to casino. Which i decided woould not play cause of all the problems. They been having slow plays across the board.

I believe connenct to casino is trying to cover up destination poker, and use it to start fresh , cause they tooking a hurting from the buy out of hampton and all the screw up at connecto casinos.
 
Hang on. Something's either been misunderstood by me or badly explained by you. This $100 debit is legitimate, you say? I understood it to be a $100 deposit you didn't actually make, not a deposit made at DP and registered from CTC. That's an ENTIRELY different matter. The only issue here would then be simply denial of the DP / CTC connection, not an unauthorized credit card charge. LOL, that's a much smaller "offence".
 
caurso, Destination poker is the only 100 cc depoist i made on the 27. And connecto to casino showed up on the statement. This not to me a small offence at all. I would not depoist nowing destination poker and connect to casino are the same. Which they flat out deny. So since they deny there apart of the same company. Connect to casino should not be on my statement. Lying and deny you own a casino. Hanging up and saying u dont have account with them. When i do is wrong. If they lie about that. What else they lying about.

1. destination poker, said we dont have a sister casino
2. connecto to casino said they not part of destination poker
3. depoist 100 bucks on may 27 to destination poker
4. on my statement connecto to casino shows up
5. Call the number on my statement, the man that pick up the phone, didnt want to tell me what company or casino it was, then said i had no account with them and hung up
6. destination poker dont know what happen to the money
7. few days later told they have the same lawyer and processor
8. now destination has the money , but on my statement it shows connecto to casino.

Since they lied out right , they should give me my 100 bucks
 
connecto

The issue with this casino is that they see whom they can screw over. They have tactics by doing this that are totally unacceptable and should not be defended.
In my case they accused me of possibly using an robot ( I was playing slots! ) and wanted me to settle for less money, telling me to think it about and hung up on me. The money was rightfully mine so I pushed on.

When that retarded excuse was done. I was called a bonus abuser and that I am on some list they have from other casinos. (I had played with about 5 other casino at that time. So that was bull too) and they refused to pay.


After constant hounding, with letters, phone calls. I was paid over two months later. But the only reason is that I did not give up. I just wonder who has and not been paid that are not so persistent.

Does this sound like a casino that should be in business?
 
bethug said:
Since they lied out right , they should give me my 100 bucks

Well, reluctance to admit to connections with other casinos is not in itself any kind of a crime, neither is it grounds for player claims to money not owed - I'm not sure why you think this. At most, you can accuse them of lack of transparency - assuming they ARE connected. Of course, they may yet not be. Remember Cirrus? Bryan was flat out convinced they were associated to Virtual. Subsequently it transpired they were not. Mistakes like this are made. In the circumstances as we now correctly understand them, a $50 credit was very reasonable, and they're not outside their rights to request at least a clarification from you.

This was misleadingly presented: "Connectocasino are thieves like a mf", posted on several boards, followed by a load of Ezeboard postings containing nothing but a lot of uncorroborateable accusations. Then, it turns out the charge was actually legitimate, and any actual direct connection with DP is as yet in no way confirmed. Whether or not that turns out to be the case, there was no credit card fraud here - the issue as we understood it - and it's a grave accusation to make. Players who have been around and consider themselves "listened to" have a responsibility to be VERY accurate and considered in their postings. I have to say: this didn't happen here.
 
caruso, maybe cause your girl promotes them, you taken up for them.

I will state this one more time. I went to check my statement, cause i purchase some lock boxes for a home i am selling, What do i see connect to on my statement. i called the number on my statement, they was very rude and said , then had the never to say i didnt have account with them and hung up. Now this is what came out there mouth. From that alone i should get my 100 bucks. Then i go thru all the casinos i played and found out , that i made a cc depoist for a 100 bucks at destination poker. Which win i call the same guy picks up. But before i played at destination poker , i ask do u have any sister casinos, they said no.

Would u play at black widow sister casinos? I dont and never will

The same man pick the phone up, proves to me the same people own the casino, also jetset just showed you , emails are some one connected. But i guess you dont see that. They need to be close down. Any place that will let me post i will, i will also put them first page on the site i am building.

connect2 and crystal palace and others need to beclose down. If a casino straight out lies. How can u trust them
 
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Ok, finally I can understand what went down.

Bethug deposited at Destination after asking them if they had a sister casino and they had said no.

This encouraged him to deposit $100 which he played and lost. Had he known there was a connection he would not have deposited since he believes connectto is not above board.

Next he looks at his credit card and sees that the $100 for Destination were credited to Connectto.

This upsets him - understandably - it is true, it is like buying something at Walmart and having the money go to Kmart. That is odd, and if for some reason you are boycotting Kmart, it would be equal to fraud. Your money was obtained from you through false pretenses.

Having the same lawyer, the same processor, the same voice, the same mail header - points to a very close connection.

There is one practise casinos employ a lot that may explain this without necessarily (but still possibly) making connecto and destination sister casinos. It is not unusual for new casinos to operate under the licence of an established casino until the registration of the new casino comes through, which can take some time.

Well, I don't see anyone paying Bethug any money as he did play and lose it.

You can argue that it was obtained from Bethug under false pretenses, and that is definitely not ethical.

I just don't see how this can be enforced.

Bethug, I wish you had explained this in more detail from the start. I was really confused there for a while.
 
dom, i didnt know from the start. All i knew is that i didnt depoist at connect to casino. I had to go back thru my records and find out. If they connect to casino was helping destination poker, why didnt they say it , instead of hanging up the phone and lying. Who every made connecto casino also made destination poker, look at the site. I was sold bad weed , where i am from , people dont dont take kindly to bad puff puff.
 
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Originally Posted by bethug

Bryan, jetset, do you think there same??? I will not be taken no 50 bucks


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Dom, The Meister himself has already stated in the above comment that Destination Poker and ConnecToCasino are one in the same !!

Please don't doubt the Meister, He is all Knowing...
 
Dom, The Meister himself has already stated in the above comment that Destination Poker and ConnecToCasino are one in the same !!

Please don't doubt the Meister, He is all Knowing...

Hehe, I don't doubt it for a minute! :notworthy


If they connect to casino was helping destination poker, why didnt they say it , instead of hanging up the phone and lying.

Because it isn't entirely legal to operate under someone else's licence?

However, if Bryan says he knows they are sisters, all other points are mute. That's what I get for not going back to read the entire thread and instead jumping on something I read. My bad.
 
Now I may seem to be all knowing - but I am not. Sometimes I know more than others simply because I "know" people in the industry (managers, owners, current and ex-employees) who can give me scraps of info to piece together.

Many of these RTG casinos use the same offices, the same support, the same managers - but yet they try to obscure all of this as if they have something to hide. This is what is bogus.

caruso said:
Remember Cirrus? Bryan was flat out convinced they were associated to Virtual. Subsequently it transpired they were not.
I was NOT wrong concerning Cirrus. Cirrus had all the earmarks of being a casino from the "Virtual" clan. They were on Prism's server, the emails were coming from Prism Casino, the download was from prismcasino.com, the traffic stats were on Virtual's account, etc. I even reported this on last June 4th's webcast and provided a screenshot of their traffic stats to prove my point:
https://www.casinomeister.com/static/images/screenshots/virtual_stats_screenshots.html
Now I was careful to say they "probably are" one in the same, not "are" one in the same - because in this business, you just never know. You may have evidence that one thing is going on - and yet you may be unaware of other things that "may" be happening.

Supposidly, Cirrus and Prism were clients of Virtual and worked out of the same offices. And as they grew their sea-legs, they moved on (I guess to the offices accross the hall :D) I met with the owner of Virtual last January in London who explained some of this, and I get emails from other interested parties who explain other things as well.

What it boils down to is that you never can tell about most of the RTG casinos operating out of CR. I don't know who to trust - and you probably don't know either. I really don't understand what these casinos are trying to hide - everything is so damn secretive. When a MG casino group merges or buys out another, it's pretty much common knowledge and everyone talks about it (Vegas Partners for instance picking up CasinoUS, Cinema Casino, etc.) What is the deal with that? :what:

Bethug has a legitimate gripe. He was lied to. The whole Destination Poker/Connecto "connections" are obvious and should be explained. A player has a right to know who they are making a deposit to - especially if they have strong feelings against the way one group of casinos operate. If Connecto casino wishes to obscure this connection, well then what the hell - they still lied to Bethug.

Caruso, I'm not ragging on you, but you seem to downplay this deceptive activity. If a casino has something to hide, there is probably a good reason for this. All signs point to a common denominator - IP addresses in emails don't lie.

Why the denial? Why not an explanation? Why the BS?
 
casinomeister said:
I was NOT wrong concerning Cirrus.

Cirrus and Virtual (casinosupportcenter) is the same one casino. I have the tests.

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The situation of Bethug is clear. He is equal to mine. First of all they say a lie and subsequently they continue to say it even if comes then revealed the truth.
 
This is getting silly. Bryan confirmed a long time ago that Cirrus is now a separate entity. Maybe, as he suggests here, there has been a closer relationship in the past, but I can't imagine that that ever existed at managerial level. Either way, NOW they are distinct. That Marco has the "tests" is a nonsensical statement.

Damian's situation is certainly "clear"; he mistook a legitimate transaction for a fraudulent one. The argument that there is "illegitimacy" in the fact that his money was obtained "under false pretences" can be made, but that has no bearing on the fact that the misunderstanding was on the part of the player, and incorrectly reported as theft. I have also had debits from my Neteller account the origins of which I've been unsure of - and credits, too. My small TVS resolution payment, under "Doloplex Holdings", would have been a mystery to me if I hadn't known that that exact sum could only have come from one operation. A quick check on the records always clears these things up, as Damian subsequently discovered. Better to sit back and think for a second before going off on tilt.

There's no value in creating lose-lose situations for casinos. If you make an accusation then subsequently discover that the error is yours, failure to offer any kind of a retraction is going to leave the casino wondering why they should bother at all. If they're in the wrong, they get kicked in the teeth; if the player is in the wrong, they get kicked in the teeth. Not much incentive for fair play, is it? Further back in this thread, a player accused them of "stealing" money he wasn't owed - then discovered that the "stolen" money was a sticky bonus he wasn't entitled to. Did he retract his accusation? Did he heck - he went on a made another one, for good measure!

That the players are traditionally the "good guys" and casinos the "bad guys" on the message boards should not be expoited. If you make a mistake, own up; if the casino does right by you, thank them; THEN, if the casino screws, you can blast them off the face of the earth with impunity, and your opinion will carry weight. If you go off half-cocked at every turn, never retract incorrect statements and never express appreciation for a "righted wrong" you can expect the same lack of consideration from the other side, and a general degredation of any goodwill that might exist between the to camps.

Bryan said:
I really don't understand what these casinos are trying to hide - everything is so damn secretive.

I certainly agree with that. My point was simply that the theft accusation was false, and not that, assuming there IS a connection, the lack of disclosure is anything other than shady and dishonest.
 
caurso, I never wish to harm any rtg casinos. Not one. Saying that. If a casino tells you they dont know what u talking about and hangs up. What woould u think, also they still have not given me a good reason why, connect to casino is on my statement. Which i know why. They got caught in a lie and dont want to come straight. They stoled my money, how i see it. Where i am from u a straight up thief, if you fool someone to get something.

"legitimate transaction" when destination lied about being part of connect to casino. come on now. I was sold bad weed, plan and simple
 
caurso the more i read your post , its crazy

destination lied, connecto casino lied. And i suppose to kiss there butt. I suppose to take the 50 bucks and be happy or did they offor u the money to rebute what i am saying :eek2:

See caurso 50 bucks dont bye me, even if they gave me my 100 bucks back, i will still raise crap. For one they lied to me. They sold me false goods. Any place in american i would be able to get my money back.
 
caruso said:
That Marco has the "tests" is a nonsensical statement...
Dear Caruso

I don't have problem with Cirrus.

I have problem in all my history only with connectocasino


I have send you a PM with the explication in Italian lenguage.

If You want send this explanation - no problem.
 
bethug said:
They got caught in a lie and dont want to come straight...

This is the history...

They say a lie and then they continue with this although the contrary is demonstrated...

like for their debits to my favor
 

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