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Right now it's Does (1-100) but that can always be increased.
What on earth does this mean? Can anyone de-cipher
Right now it's Does (1-100) but that can always be increased.
QUOTE: "I'd want to see the original documents from WB prior to that." That might be a bad idea.
Cipher
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General Note: Irrespective of your "side" on this issue, and I appreciate this is an emotional topic, please keep to adult debate. You can get your point over without the need to regress in doing so
Cheers
Simmo!
General Note: Irrespective of your "side" on this issue, and I appreciate this is an emotional topic, please keep to adult debate. You can get your point over without the need to regress in doing so
Cheers
Simmo!
Footnote: Meister has been over here in london this past week.
Cipher why dont you just save everyone a headache and jump off of your roof
Hi Simmo,
Not taking offense, but how do you call a crook a crook in a civil manner?
NOTICE: It has come to my attention that one DAMIAN DUNLAP has (on the behalf of one TIM BELL) chosen to post a video on his site (You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.) with regards issues to a dispute between CIPHER and TIM BELL.
I actually signed up to PU to watch this video...here's the link for everyone's amusement
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Tomorrow is my first day of work after being absent (from here) last week.Also interesting...has anyone noticed... Bryan, CM has not elected to comment in this thread, perhaps not wishing to get entangled?
I caught the Slotchik/Casinomeister one and nearly wet myself! The guy is hilarious... I love the gangsta-style words and language, interspersed with quite mundane points - in the nice neat office. It's like a cross between fiddy cent and David Brent (Michael Scott for American audiences).
I have no opinion on what these people are doing/trying to do or any of that nonsense and best of luck to them - but to the casual observer - it's hilarious!
As for Cipher... The usual smoke and mirrors, the usual BS - and the usual skirting round the issue... Well and truly outed - game over.
The first priority should be the recovery of the debt, which is a civil matter. Criminal charges should be secondary.
He could go this way GrandMaster but if he wanted to try and collect anything above the original $20K invested he could not collect on the Punitive damages because Punitive damages are never awarded in a civil case under contract law in the US. If he did in fact have a contract with Cipher verbal or written, WB would need to prusue a Criminal case against Cipher if he wanted to try and collect excess monies above 20K.
In a civil case under tort law, there is a possibility of punitive damages, if the defendant's conduct is egregious and had either (1) a malicious intent (i.e., desire to cause harm), or (2) gross negligence (i.e., conscious indifference), or (3) a willful disregard for the rights of others.
Just so you know I totally agree with you that he should not take advice from any one of us, he needs to just speak with a good attorney asap and be advised from there.
What I know about the law and cases here in the US is solely based on all the background I have had in contract law, being in the Construction and Real Estate Industry for the last 27 years you spend a lot of time in the courtroom and in meetings with attorneys and DA's offices when you work for a large construction company in an executive capacity.
Just so you know I totally agree with you that he should not take advice from any one of us, he needs to just speak with a good attorney asap and be advised from there.
What strikes me as really sad about this whole thing is that we have shady casinos who rip off players (and affiliates), and we have shady players/affiliates who try to rip off casinos. It now looks like we have a forum member/player who screwed over a fellow player. That truly sucks.
What is sad is the fat lady isn't singing. Cipher isn't expressing contrition. On the contrary, he is still selling his scamsystem. There are going to be other desparate people that get there money stolen.
I agree on that Stanford, absolutely. Which is why I mentioned the webpage, which if laden with enough of the proper keywords, would be brought up anytime someone went searching for blackjack or blackjack systems (or Cipher for that matter). But again, I still would want to see the actual proof first, ie. emails, agreement, cheque, etc. And I'd want to make sure it was authentic.
But again, I still would want to see the actual proof first, ie. emails, agreement, cheque, etc. And I'd want to make sure it was authentic.
Stanford, I think what Pinababy69 meant to say is that WB/Tim Bell is holding this back as not to expose his evidence wide open to the public eye, i.e. the cheque and initial email agreements with Bruce Holway (cipher). We're just seeing the after effects not what was initially exchanged.
Anyway, I'm off wish the OP the best. Maybe it's time to take a break from this issue, until concrete action is taken?
Cipher on that other website - one of the millions I'm trying to keep track of said:NOTICE: It has come to my attention that one DAMIAN DUNLAP has (on the behalf of one TIM BELL) chosen to post a video on his site (www.playerunion.com) with regards issues to a dispute between CIPHER and TIM BELL.
1) You (TIM BELL) are hereby made aware of the existence of such video.
2) The continued display of the aforementioned video shall serve as evidence of your knowledge of said video.
3) You will thereby be considered as a co-conspirator in those same acts of Damian Dunlap with regards the display of said video.
No further warning will be given.
Cipher