- Joined
- Nov 1, 2005
- Location
- America
Cipher- The Wizard of BJ
Pulling Back the Curtain
Fear and Trembling
Bruce Holway (aka Cipher) was a respectable man, a knowledgeable man in the game of blackjack. He was well known in the world of gambling and sports-betting. He boasts of winning the largest wager in the history of Harrah's casino on a college basketball game then doubling the win at the blackjack tables. Later, he started gambling on online casinos and made his name among the Internet gambling forums. He helped big winners get their money from reluctant online casinos and seemed to be sharp on the legalities of gambling, online and off. He has two of his own websites and has developed the Cipher software for playing online blackjack. He is.....The Wizard of BJ.
Becoming a Cipher disciple
After many sessions of online blackjack, I was suspicious that the draw of the cards were not random. So I searched on the Internet for answers and came upon a posting by Cipher dealing with randomness of online casino blackjack. I started looking up and reading most of Cipher's postings on the Online Players Union, Casinomeister, and Winner Online. I've studied most of the “strands” and “scrolls” of Bruce's blackjack play that showed him winning hundreds and thousands of dollars in many of his blackjack sessions. Eventually, I tried out Bruce's free version of the Cipher software and was hooked. I started winning some blackjack games. Though it wasn't always easy but I gradually started to get the hang of it. I posted a number of times on his GamblingEdge and OPU websites and learned from him and others.
In Spring 2006, in my personal life, my mother had lived with me already for several month after suffering a stroke the year before. Nursing care is expensive and I was concerned that the money for nursing care was going to run out before my mother was back on her own. So I wanted to find a better investment than the pitiful 5% going rate of various investment vehicles.
Rose-Colored Glasses
I remembered from reading Bruce's CipherBlackjack website about him “advising” some 44 people from around the world on a daily basis. So I inquired Bruce about this as I wondered if he was investing other people's money into his apparently successful blackjack play. He agreed that the interest rate that financial institutions pay was really pathetic and we started setting out some terms at which Bruce would pay me on his blackjack play using my money. We eventually agreed that:
Later, he wrote:
So this makes our agreement that Cipher will pay 15% accumulated monthly should I desire not to elect to receive a disbursement for any month. Those are damn good terms! But I believe it was possible because.....he was The Wizard Of BJ!!! Actually, if one is to believe the strands and scrolls that Bruce puts on his websites, you'd be convinced that he could do it. I did...after all, he was respected, he didn't hide his address, he just didn't appear to be a scammer. He helped out people get their money from online casinos and from all I've seen, he just looked legit. (Like MC Hammer, as it turned out.)
So in early March 2006, I sent to Bruce $20,000. I received a pro-rated $2,400 at the end of March. Thereafter, I asked him to just add each month's disbursement to the principal and that way the disbursement grows each month.
Keeping The Faith
Several months later, on August 30st, 2006, I asked Cipher to send the September 2006 disbursement since my mother's bank account would be running low in cash by that time. The “interest” for September would be $6,034. Bruce writes:
Under Which Cup is the Money?
From here on, the story is more like Alice In Wonderland. The only way I can relate what happened here is by presenting to you the emails between me and Bruce in chronological order. Here goes:
Me (Fri 9/29): Hi B.J. Ummmm, just a-wonderin' about that September disbursement. Did everything go ok during this month? Thanks, Tim
Cipher (Fri 9/29): Hi Tim: Yes, everything went well and your $6,034.00 withdrawal will be going out tomorrow or Monday I'm not sure which as it depends when the funds are transferred to my Credit Union account as the Credit Union is not open on the weekends. Hope all is well with you and your Mom and it's good to see you posting on The Gambling Edge. Unfortunately it looks as though Frist was succesful with his legislative efforts. Have a good one. Cipher
* Monday came and went.
Me (Wed 10/4): Hi Cipher, Was I to get that $6K by now? Tim
Cipher (Wed 10/4): Hi Tim: Actually yes. Unfortunately my Credit Union put a hold on my Money Bookers deposit to my Credit Union account that will clear on Friday. My Plan is to send a Cashier's Check by FEDEX on Friday. Or if you like I can send you a personal check today. Let me know which you prefer. Have a good one. B. J. (cipher)
Me (Wed 10/4): No, no, that's fine. Friday is good. Just wanted to make sure that it didn't get h-u-n-g up by FedEx or something. [Note: Head-bashing already completed.]
* Didn't get a FEDEX tracking number from Cipher on Friday or Saturday or Sunday.
Me (Mon 10/9):Hi Cipher, I hope the deposit cleared. This morning, there was a FedEx truck to my apartment building that I thought for sure was for me. :-( Let me know the tracking number so that I can keep a lookout for it. Thanks, Tim [Ain't I so damn sweet? Barf]
Cipher (Mon 10/9): Hi Tim:I don't know if the deposit cleared or not as I just got back to Visalia and the Credit Union has been closed the last 3 days. But I'll find out in the morning and email you with a raccking [sic] number then. Have a good one. B. J. (cipher)
* I don't hear from Cipher for three days. Why do I have to always initiate conversation here? Disillusionment starting to creep in.
Me (Thurs 10/12): What is the latest on the disbursement? Tim
Cipher (Thurs 10/12): Hi Tim: It will be going out this afternoon and I'll send you the tracking number out this afternoon. Have a good one. B. J. (cipher) [Oh goodie goodie goodie!]
* Why do I have to always initiate conversation here? Oh wait, I already said that. Another two days go by.
Me (Sat 10/14): Hi B.J.My brother is getting nervous about this. Did you send out the disbursement yet? Tim
Cipher (Sat 10/14): Hi Tim: I too am a little concerned as to the amount of time the credit union has taken to clear these latest Money Booker transactions. I checked the Credit Union account (just before emailing this)and those items are showing as cleared now. The Credit Union is not open on the weekend, but now that those items have cleared I'll be able to get them out by FEDEX on Monday. Have a good one. B. J. (cipher)
Me (Mon 10/16): Hi Cipher, Should I be watching for the FedEx tomorrow? Tim [Yeah, I know....by now you're wondering if “I” am the one whose brain ain't screwed on right.]
Cipher (Tues 10/17): Hi Tim: I just got back to Visalia this morning but you can look to have it there tomorrow. Have a good one. B. J. (cipher) [Wha?? You were gone? ok.]
* Oooookaaay....at this point I'm getting very concerned [finally!, you say]. I contacted a guy who I've seen on Cipher's GamblingEdge website quite often and seemed to have an inside track into Bruce's operations. I'll call him Richard {not his real name.} I wanted to know if there was anything he could tell me that will make sense of what I was experiencing with Bruce. I was concerned that Bruce was in financial trouble from gambling too much or lost a lot of money in sports-betting or what. Well, Richard, himself, had some money invested with Cipher and he was livid that he wasn't the only one who wasn't getting paid. Richard had some harsher words for Cipher but I wasn't at that point yet. In any case, this was troubling news.
* Tomorrow comes and goes. Nothing in the mail or FEDEX. Damn. ANOTHER three days pass.
Me (Thurs 10/19): Hi Cipher, The money did not arrive yesterday nor today. I'm frustrated with this. I would like the tracking number of the shipment. Thanks, Tim
Cipher (Thurs 10/19): Hi Tim: You couldn't be anymore frustrated than I am about this, as I'm still waiting for the Credit Union to verify my funds received from Money Bookers. I'll be going down there in the AM and I can assure you that I'll have a satisfactory answer or someones head one of the two. When I return from the Credit Union I'll email you. Have a good one. B.J. (cipher)
Me (Fri 10/20 Evening): Hi Cipher, Well, what did they say? If they are stalling on it then perhaps it would be better for you to send a personal check because would knows how much longer it will take. My mother needs that money now. I'm sure that the funds from Money Bookers would eventually clear but can't wait any longer. Thanks,T.B.
House of Cards
Cipher never responded. Meanwhile, me and Richard were discussing what to do, legal and otherwise, for our situation. One day, Richard contacted Cipher (angrily, I assume) and Cipher learned that I had been talking with Richard about Cipher not paying. Next, I get this:
Cipher (Wed 10/25): Hi Tim: I'm advised that you evidentally [sic] felt the need to contact [Richard]......... with regards the arrangement that you and I have had. Accordingly Tim, that arrangement is now over with. Please advise me at your earliest opportunity as to what you feel is owed to you and I'll send you those funds to you on the first of November. Have a good one. B. J. (cipher)
Me (Wed 10/25): Hi B.J., In accordance with our (prior) arrangement, which was 15% on accumulated balance monthly, the balance at the end of October would be $53,200. We sent to you in March $20,000 and you sent $2,400 for that month. Thereafter, starting beginning of April, the 15% of accumulated balance started...... I became concerned about the slow September payment, slow email responses, and my brother was very fearful that I gave our mother's money away to never be seen again. I contacted Richard because he appeared to be working with you on your projects. I wanted to know if he was aware of any problems behind the scenes with your ability to pay and he said he had the same delay problems too. I'm sorry that our arrangement had to end this way but it is the best that it end, for now at least. I would still like to contribute in a positive way at the Gambling Edge forum in regards to the Cipher software and the use of your excellent software, if that is ok with you. Very sincerely, Timothy Bell
* At the same time that I was writing the above email to Cipher, Richard continues to try to convince Bruce to pay us and sent proof to him that I was angry too with him. That prompts Bruce to send the follow to Richard and cc'd to me:
Cipher (Wed 10/25): Yes [Richard]: You need to make absolutely certain that you do not call me, write me or > even email me. The only contact that I want to have with you and/or Tim is > through your attorneys. Now put up or shut up. B.J. (cipher)
* With embarrassment to all the world, I wrote this to Cipher:
Me (Wed 10/25): Bruce, For what it's worth, I'm sorry for the comments made by me to [Richard] in regards to your character. They were made on the assumption that you were not going to pull through on your promise to send the disbursement(s). ..... I only made them to David and no one else. I don't know what else I can say. Sincerely, Tim
* November 1st, the date Bruce said he would pay the balance of the account, came and went with nothing received from Bruce. I kept in touch with Richard and started to give some other people, such as Damian at OPU, some notice as to trouble with Bruce/Cipher. Then on November 6th, out of the blue, Bruce surprised me with this email:
Cipher (Mon 11/6): Hi Cat: Sorry that it's taken so long to respond to your last email. Understand CAT I'm not even upset with you. You've got every right to be concerned about your account status. I've talk with a couple of the casions to wit I'm owed sizeable amounts of funds and I'm assured that those funds will be made available within the next week to 10 days. Once those funds are made available you will be made whole in short order. Have a good one. B. J. (cipher)
Me (Mon 11/6): Dear Bruce, Thank you for this email. You have a good reputation on the various casino boards and I trust that reputation. Cipher is excellent software though it's my fault that I haven't yet been able to KEEP the winnings I've generated. Well, that's beside the point. I'll be looking forward for the funds.Tim [OK, you can shoot me now, readers.]
In the Shadow of Sorrow
I never heard from Bruce again until I emailed him over three weeks later. It was very trying times in my life right then.....
Me (Thurs 11/30): Hi B. J., It has been awhile since the last email. Have you gotten the funds yet? BTW, my mother is in the hospital again since nearly two weeks ago. She is recovering a bit from a heart attack and stroke. It has been a rough time for a while. Thanks, Tim
Cipher (Thurs 11/30): Hi Cat: I'm sorry to hear of your mother's stroke and heart attack, especially at this time of year. I've been pretty busy making a lot of changes so as to be in compliance with the new law. By the way the site may be down intermittently over the next couple of days while things are switched over to a hosting company in Toronto, Canada. Additionally, in all likelyhood I should be set to clear your account around the first of the year as I've got a large sum of funds coming in on the 2nd of January. It's good to hear from you CAT. Have a good one. B. J. (cipher)
I had neither the energy nor mindset to deal with the situation while my beloved mother was in the hospital. It was truly a time of testing and stress. I had a very bad cold and at one point I couldn't speak at all due to all the coughing.
My mother passed peacefully in the morning of December 29th, 2006.
The Awakening
Me (Fri 12/29): Hi Bruce, My mother has passed away this morning. The funeral costs are very high as we found out today. Bruce, we really need the money as soon as possible as the funeral costs have to be paid before the funeral service. The funeral is this Wednesday, Jan 3rd. Can you send at least a partial payment? I really hope you can.
Tim
Cipher (Fri 12/29): Hi CAT: I'm really sorry to hear this CAT. I will be in touch with you on Monday [New Years Day] around midday.B. J. (cipher)
* It's now Monday, New Year's Day...
Me (Mon 1/1/07): Hi B.J., I was on the phone with a relative for quite a while and it is now after 1:00pm here in Virginia. Did I miss your call? Tim
Cipher (Mon 1/1): Hi CAT: No CAT, you did not as I've been on the internet trying to expedite a withdrawal from BoDog but I'm pretty much in limbo or so to speak on that issue until tomorrow given the Holiday and all. I'm showing that I've got some $8,000.00 in withdrawalable funds there but the main accounting department that handles those transfers are not there today.B. J. (cipher)
* Two days later...
Me (Wed 1/3): Hi Cipher Did anything come of this? Tim
Cipher (Wed 1/3): Hi Cat: I've got a call scheduled for 9:30 AM my time 12:30 yours tomorrow to talk with the guy that's in charge. Have a good one. B. J. (cipher)
* (SIGH!)
Me (Thurs 1-4): Hi Cipher, Did the call go OK? My relatives are really saying that I made a bad investment and are really disappointed in me, to put it mildly. I really hope they're wrong but I have nothing to counter their doubts. Cipher, I hope you are not in deep financial trouble or anything. Tim
Cipher (Thurs 1-4): Hi CAT: I was not able to make contact with the individual that I needed to today but I hope to be able to tomorrow. Also CAT, beleve me I appreciate your concern. But within the last week or so I've come to understand the phrase "I'm beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel." That's not to say it hasn't been Rocky CAT, but I'm confident everything will turn out fine. Have a good one. Cipher
Man, he's good with that “your frustration is my frustration” thingy.
The Curtain is Pulled Back
In the intervening two weeks, after much reflection and discussion with various people, including, especially my brother, Dan....it became clear Bruce is not what he seems. Next email shows this....
Me (Tues 1/16): Hi Bruce, I got some relatives who are very angry at you (and me) for "taking" my mother's money and suggested a lawsuit. That money, had I not "lost" it (their words) to you, would have paid for my mother's funeral but instead my brother had to paid for the funeral on his equity line and it's up to me to pay him back. They waited to see if you get back with me on your own initiative after making contact with that "individual" as you noted in your last email. Since you didn't get back with me since the last email, proves that you are not for real in their minds. The stuff on BlackjackInfo.com didn't help either. Bruce, my back is against the wall. Can you to pay $5,000 a month or something?? Tim
Cipher (Tues 1/16): Hi CAT: I like you and I do regret that this situation is going on in the way that it is. But I'd certainly suggest to you, your brother and your other relatives to seek legal advice on this matter if they have even the slightest hope that a legal course will provide them and/or yourself any relief in this regard as I can assure you it will not. Moreover, a good example as to just exactly what I mean can be found in the posts that you mentioned at BLACKJACKINFO.COM as that young fellow "bilgplayer" has now found kimself in one hell of a lot of trouble. CAT, as I mentioned earlier I think you're a hell of a guy and I have no probledms with you emailing me at anytime but do us both a favor and do not attempt to threaten me again. [my emphasis] Lastly, I sincerely hope you'll pass this email on to your brother and any other relatives as well. Have a good one. B. J. (cipher)
* Cipher's email was the last straw. I couldn't believe he had the gall to say that I “threatened” him in my 1/16 email to him????? Perhaps this guy really DID have a “persecution” complex as one poster mentioned on Cipher's website recently. I wrote back.....
Me (Wed 1/17): Hii Bruce, I'm angry that you said I threatened you in my previous email. Well, I've had it. I'm sure a judge would see otherwise. I'm requesting my funds, now. If I don't receive substantial payment within a week, various casino forums will hear about it (already at OPU) and legal action will be sought. BTW, I do not believe for one minute that 'bilgplaya' at Blackjackinfo.com is in trouble. You have no way of knowing who he is and his posting didn't have slanderous elements in it. Just the facts. I wanted to like you, Bruce, but saying that my previous email was 'threatening' you was the last straw.Timothy Bell Virginia Beach VA
Cipher (Wed 1/17): Until you tone yourself down do not call or write me again. Above all else do not delay in proceeding with any action you feel you may be able to persue. B. J. (cipher)
My brother has written emails to Bruce reminding him of a pending deadline to pay up. A week has gone by and now you, my dear reader, are reading this.
No Place like Normal
Would you ever think that a mutual fund manager be threatening his clients with lawsuits if you didn't like the way he was handling the funds? Certainly a refund of the original deposit would promptly be paid back. Cipher doesn't even try to explain why he can't pay without insulting people's intelligence. He doesn't even try to work out a payment plan.
Treating "clients" this way is NOT a trait of a legitimate investee or trust fund manager. I guess I and others in the same boat have a certain psychological quirk that makes us susceptible to manipulators like Cipher. I have to give credit to my brother for seeing Cipher for what he is sooner than I.
What Now?
It's sad that this post had to be done so that other people would not have to go through what I did. I know of several other people who are in the same boat but it's up to them to do what they have to do in their situation. Class-action lawsuit? Maybe.
Bruce has {had?} a good thing going with the Cipher software. I still use it {but haven't played online since September}. Has he gone bad? Was he bad all along? Was this a Ponzi scheme? All I know is that warning signs were around but because he had my money, I ignored them.
Legal action is likely and soon. Bruce just doesn't seem to be the kind person to try to mend things. Paying $20,000 now would be better for him than the continuing accumulation of interest into the balance...now closing in on $81,000, if this is brought to trail.
In the end, the Wizard of BJ was....just someone I made up.
I miss you, Mom.
Pulling Back the Curtain
Fear and Trembling
Bruce Holway (aka Cipher) was a respectable man, a knowledgeable man in the game of blackjack. He was well known in the world of gambling and sports-betting. He boasts of winning the largest wager in the history of Harrah's casino on a college basketball game then doubling the win at the blackjack tables. Later, he started gambling on online casinos and made his name among the Internet gambling forums. He helped big winners get their money from reluctant online casinos and seemed to be sharp on the legalities of gambling, online and off. He has two of his own websites and has developed the Cipher software for playing online blackjack. He is.....The Wizard of BJ.
Becoming a Cipher disciple
After many sessions of online blackjack, I was suspicious that the draw of the cards were not random. So I searched on the Internet for answers and came upon a posting by Cipher dealing with randomness of online casino blackjack. I started looking up and reading most of Cipher's postings on the Online Players Union, Casinomeister, and Winner Online. I've studied most of the “strands” and “scrolls” of Bruce's blackjack play that showed him winning hundreds and thousands of dollars in many of his blackjack sessions. Eventually, I tried out Bruce's free version of the Cipher software and was hooked. I started winning some blackjack games. Though it wasn't always easy but I gradually started to get the hang of it. I posted a number of times on his GamblingEdge and OPU websites and learned from him and others.
In Spring 2006, in my personal life, my mother had lived with me already for several month after suffering a stroke the year before. Nursing care is expensive and I was concerned that the money for nursing care was going to run out before my mother was back on her own. So I wanted to find a better investment than the pitiful 5% going rate of various investment vehicles.
Rose-Colored Glasses
I remembered from reading Bruce's CipherBlackjack website about him “advising” some 44 people from around the world on a daily basis. So I inquired Bruce about this as I wondered if he was investing other people's money into his apparently successful blackjack play. He agreed that the interest rate that financial institutions pay was really pathetic and we started setting out some terms at which Bruce would pay me on his blackjack play using my money. We eventually agreed that:
He would pay 15% per month on $20,000.00 deposited on account with him. It was payable on the first of each month and recurring on a 30 day basis. He would continue to maintain that schedule as long as the initial $20,000.00 remained on account with him. Again, this would be based on thirty day periods of time so once the funds are deposited with him they cannot be withdrawn for a period of 30 days. All play will originate from the United Kingdom and he will be personally responsible for all payments incident to the agreement.
Later, he wrote:
You can elect to have the $3,000.00 per month that would otherwise be paid to you in the form of interest on account. In that event, the 15% interest would apply to whatever accumulated funds are account.
So this makes our agreement that Cipher will pay 15% accumulated monthly should I desire not to elect to receive a disbursement for any month. Those are damn good terms! But I believe it was possible because.....he was The Wizard Of BJ!!! Actually, if one is to believe the strands and scrolls that Bruce puts on his websites, you'd be convinced that he could do it. I did...after all, he was respected, he didn't hide his address, he just didn't appear to be a scammer. He helped out people get their money from online casinos and from all I've seen, he just looked legit. (Like MC Hammer, as it turned out.)
So in early March 2006, I sent to Bruce $20,000. I received a pro-rated $2,400 at the end of March. Thereafter, I asked him to just add each month's disbursement to the principal and that way the disbursement grows each month.
Keeping The Faith
Several months later, on August 30st, 2006, I asked Cipher to send the September 2006 disbursement since my mother's bank account would be running low in cash by that time. The “interest” for September would be $6,034. Bruce writes:
“With regards your email of even date, please be advised that I've noted those disbursement details on my calendar. With regards the $6,034.00 at the end of September, what is your preferred method of receiving those funds ie: Cashier's Check, Wire Transfer or Neteller?”
Under Which Cup is the Money?
From here on, the story is more like Alice In Wonderland. The only way I can relate what happened here is by presenting to you the emails between me and Bruce in chronological order. Here goes:
Me (Fri 9/29): Hi B.J. Ummmm, just a-wonderin' about that September disbursement. Did everything go ok during this month? Thanks, Tim
Cipher (Fri 9/29): Hi Tim: Yes, everything went well and your $6,034.00 withdrawal will be going out tomorrow or Monday I'm not sure which as it depends when the funds are transferred to my Credit Union account as the Credit Union is not open on the weekends. Hope all is well with you and your Mom and it's good to see you posting on The Gambling Edge. Unfortunately it looks as though Frist was succesful with his legislative efforts. Have a good one. Cipher
* Monday came and went.
Me (Wed 10/4): Hi Cipher, Was I to get that $6K by now? Tim
Cipher (Wed 10/4): Hi Tim: Actually yes. Unfortunately my Credit Union put a hold on my Money Bookers deposit to my Credit Union account that will clear on Friday. My Plan is to send a Cashier's Check by FEDEX on Friday. Or if you like I can send you a personal check today. Let me know which you prefer. Have a good one. B. J. (cipher)
Me (Wed 10/4): No, no, that's fine. Friday is good. Just wanted to make sure that it didn't get h-u-n-g up by FedEx or something. [Note: Head-bashing already completed.]
* Didn't get a FEDEX tracking number from Cipher on Friday or Saturday or Sunday.
Me (Mon 10/9):Hi Cipher, I hope the deposit cleared. This morning, there was a FedEx truck to my apartment building that I thought for sure was for me. :-( Let me know the tracking number so that I can keep a lookout for it. Thanks, Tim [Ain't I so damn sweet? Barf]
Cipher (Mon 10/9): Hi Tim:I don't know if the deposit cleared or not as I just got back to Visalia and the Credit Union has been closed the last 3 days. But I'll find out in the morning and email you with a raccking [sic] number then. Have a good one. B. J. (cipher)
* I don't hear from Cipher for three days. Why do I have to always initiate conversation here? Disillusionment starting to creep in.
Me (Thurs 10/12): What is the latest on the disbursement? Tim
Cipher (Thurs 10/12): Hi Tim: It will be going out this afternoon and I'll send you the tracking number out this afternoon. Have a good one. B. J. (cipher) [Oh goodie goodie goodie!]
* Why do I have to always initiate conversation here? Oh wait, I already said that. Another two days go by.
Me (Sat 10/14): Hi B.J.My brother is getting nervous about this. Did you send out the disbursement yet? Tim
Cipher (Sat 10/14): Hi Tim: I too am a little concerned as to the amount of time the credit union has taken to clear these latest Money Booker transactions. I checked the Credit Union account (just before emailing this)and those items are showing as cleared now. The Credit Union is not open on the weekend, but now that those items have cleared I'll be able to get them out by FEDEX on Monday. Have a good one. B. J. (cipher)
Me (Mon 10/16): Hi Cipher, Should I be watching for the FedEx tomorrow? Tim [Yeah, I know....by now you're wondering if “I” am the one whose brain ain't screwed on right.]
Cipher (Tues 10/17): Hi Tim: I just got back to Visalia this morning but you can look to have it there tomorrow. Have a good one. B. J. (cipher) [Wha?? You were gone? ok.]
* Oooookaaay....at this point I'm getting very concerned [finally!, you say]. I contacted a guy who I've seen on Cipher's GamblingEdge website quite often and seemed to have an inside track into Bruce's operations. I'll call him Richard {not his real name.} I wanted to know if there was anything he could tell me that will make sense of what I was experiencing with Bruce. I was concerned that Bruce was in financial trouble from gambling too much or lost a lot of money in sports-betting or what. Well, Richard, himself, had some money invested with Cipher and he was livid that he wasn't the only one who wasn't getting paid. Richard had some harsher words for Cipher but I wasn't at that point yet. In any case, this was troubling news.
* Tomorrow comes and goes. Nothing in the mail or FEDEX. Damn. ANOTHER three days pass.
Me (Thurs 10/19): Hi Cipher, The money did not arrive yesterday nor today. I'm frustrated with this. I would like the tracking number of the shipment. Thanks, Tim
Cipher (Thurs 10/19): Hi Tim: You couldn't be anymore frustrated than I am about this, as I'm still waiting for the Credit Union to verify my funds received from Money Bookers. I'll be going down there in the AM and I can assure you that I'll have a satisfactory answer or someones head one of the two. When I return from the Credit Union I'll email you. Have a good one. B.J. (cipher)
Me (Fri 10/20 Evening): Hi Cipher, Well, what did they say? If they are stalling on it then perhaps it would be better for you to send a personal check because would knows how much longer it will take. My mother needs that money now. I'm sure that the funds from Money Bookers would eventually clear but can't wait any longer. Thanks,T.B.
House of Cards
Cipher never responded. Meanwhile, me and Richard were discussing what to do, legal and otherwise, for our situation. One day, Richard contacted Cipher (angrily, I assume) and Cipher learned that I had been talking with Richard about Cipher not paying. Next, I get this:
Cipher (Wed 10/25): Hi Tim: I'm advised that you evidentally [sic] felt the need to contact [Richard]......... with regards the arrangement that you and I have had. Accordingly Tim, that arrangement is now over with. Please advise me at your earliest opportunity as to what you feel is owed to you and I'll send you those funds to you on the first of November. Have a good one. B. J. (cipher)
Me (Wed 10/25): Hi B.J., In accordance with our (prior) arrangement, which was 15% on accumulated balance monthly, the balance at the end of October would be $53,200. We sent to you in March $20,000 and you sent $2,400 for that month. Thereafter, starting beginning of April, the 15% of accumulated balance started...... I became concerned about the slow September payment, slow email responses, and my brother was very fearful that I gave our mother's money away to never be seen again. I contacted Richard because he appeared to be working with you on your projects. I wanted to know if he was aware of any problems behind the scenes with your ability to pay and he said he had the same delay problems too. I'm sorry that our arrangement had to end this way but it is the best that it end, for now at least. I would still like to contribute in a positive way at the Gambling Edge forum in regards to the Cipher software and the use of your excellent software, if that is ok with you. Very sincerely, Timothy Bell
* At the same time that I was writing the above email to Cipher, Richard continues to try to convince Bruce to pay us and sent proof to him that I was angry too with him. That prompts Bruce to send the follow to Richard and cc'd to me:
Cipher (Wed 10/25): Yes [Richard]: You need to make absolutely certain that you do not call me, write me or > even email me. The only contact that I want to have with you and/or Tim is > through your attorneys. Now put up or shut up. B.J. (cipher)
* With embarrassment to all the world, I wrote this to Cipher:
Me (Wed 10/25): Bruce, For what it's worth, I'm sorry for the comments made by me to [Richard] in regards to your character. They were made on the assumption that you were not going to pull through on your promise to send the disbursement(s). ..... I only made them to David and no one else. I don't know what else I can say. Sincerely, Tim
* November 1st, the date Bruce said he would pay the balance of the account, came and went with nothing received from Bruce. I kept in touch with Richard and started to give some other people, such as Damian at OPU, some notice as to trouble with Bruce/Cipher. Then on November 6th, out of the blue, Bruce surprised me with this email:
Cipher (Mon 11/6): Hi Cat: Sorry that it's taken so long to respond to your last email. Understand CAT I'm not even upset with you. You've got every right to be concerned about your account status. I've talk with a couple of the casions to wit I'm owed sizeable amounts of funds and I'm assured that those funds will be made available within the next week to 10 days. Once those funds are made available you will be made whole in short order. Have a good one. B. J. (cipher)
Me (Mon 11/6): Dear Bruce, Thank you for this email. You have a good reputation on the various casino boards and I trust that reputation. Cipher is excellent software though it's my fault that I haven't yet been able to KEEP the winnings I've generated. Well, that's beside the point. I'll be looking forward for the funds.Tim [OK, you can shoot me now, readers.]
In the Shadow of Sorrow
I never heard from Bruce again until I emailed him over three weeks later. It was very trying times in my life right then.....
Me (Thurs 11/30): Hi B. J., It has been awhile since the last email. Have you gotten the funds yet? BTW, my mother is in the hospital again since nearly two weeks ago. She is recovering a bit from a heart attack and stroke. It has been a rough time for a while. Thanks, Tim
Cipher (Thurs 11/30): Hi Cat: I'm sorry to hear of your mother's stroke and heart attack, especially at this time of year. I've been pretty busy making a lot of changes so as to be in compliance with the new law. By the way the site may be down intermittently over the next couple of days while things are switched over to a hosting company in Toronto, Canada. Additionally, in all likelyhood I should be set to clear your account around the first of the year as I've got a large sum of funds coming in on the 2nd of January. It's good to hear from you CAT. Have a good one. B. J. (cipher)
I had neither the energy nor mindset to deal with the situation while my beloved mother was in the hospital. It was truly a time of testing and stress. I had a very bad cold and at one point I couldn't speak at all due to all the coughing.
My mother passed peacefully in the morning of December 29th, 2006.
The Awakening
Me (Fri 12/29): Hi Bruce, My mother has passed away this morning. The funeral costs are very high as we found out today. Bruce, we really need the money as soon as possible as the funeral costs have to be paid before the funeral service. The funeral is this Wednesday, Jan 3rd. Can you send at least a partial payment? I really hope you can.
Tim
Cipher (Fri 12/29): Hi CAT: I'm really sorry to hear this CAT. I will be in touch with you on Monday [New Years Day] around midday.B. J. (cipher)
* It's now Monday, New Year's Day...
Me (Mon 1/1/07): Hi B.J., I was on the phone with a relative for quite a while and it is now after 1:00pm here in Virginia. Did I miss your call? Tim
Cipher (Mon 1/1): Hi CAT: No CAT, you did not as I've been on the internet trying to expedite a withdrawal from BoDog but I'm pretty much in limbo or so to speak on that issue until tomorrow given the Holiday and all. I'm showing that I've got some $8,000.00 in withdrawalable funds there but the main accounting department that handles those transfers are not there today.B. J. (cipher)
* Two days later...
Me (Wed 1/3): Hi Cipher Did anything come of this? Tim
Cipher (Wed 1/3): Hi Cat: I've got a call scheduled for 9:30 AM my time 12:30 yours tomorrow to talk with the guy that's in charge. Have a good one. B. J. (cipher)
* (SIGH!)
Me (Thurs 1-4): Hi Cipher, Did the call go OK? My relatives are really saying that I made a bad investment and are really disappointed in me, to put it mildly. I really hope they're wrong but I have nothing to counter their doubts. Cipher, I hope you are not in deep financial trouble or anything. Tim
Cipher (Thurs 1-4): Hi CAT: I was not able to make contact with the individual that I needed to today but I hope to be able to tomorrow. Also CAT, beleve me I appreciate your concern. But within the last week or so I've come to understand the phrase "I'm beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel." That's not to say it hasn't been Rocky CAT, but I'm confident everything will turn out fine. Have a good one. Cipher
Man, he's good with that “your frustration is my frustration” thingy.
The Curtain is Pulled Back
In the intervening two weeks, after much reflection and discussion with various people, including, especially my brother, Dan....it became clear Bruce is not what he seems. Next email shows this....
Me (Tues 1/16): Hi Bruce, I got some relatives who are very angry at you (and me) for "taking" my mother's money and suggested a lawsuit. That money, had I not "lost" it (their words) to you, would have paid for my mother's funeral but instead my brother had to paid for the funeral on his equity line and it's up to me to pay him back. They waited to see if you get back with me on your own initiative after making contact with that "individual" as you noted in your last email. Since you didn't get back with me since the last email, proves that you are not for real in their minds. The stuff on BlackjackInfo.com didn't help either. Bruce, my back is against the wall. Can you to pay $5,000 a month or something?? Tim
Cipher (Tues 1/16): Hi CAT: I like you and I do regret that this situation is going on in the way that it is. But I'd certainly suggest to you, your brother and your other relatives to seek legal advice on this matter if they have even the slightest hope that a legal course will provide them and/or yourself any relief in this regard as I can assure you it will not. Moreover, a good example as to just exactly what I mean can be found in the posts that you mentioned at BLACKJACKINFO.COM as that young fellow "bilgplayer" has now found kimself in one hell of a lot of trouble. CAT, as I mentioned earlier I think you're a hell of a guy and I have no probledms with you emailing me at anytime but do us both a favor and do not attempt to threaten me again. [my emphasis] Lastly, I sincerely hope you'll pass this email on to your brother and any other relatives as well. Have a good one. B. J. (cipher)
* Cipher's email was the last straw. I couldn't believe he had the gall to say that I “threatened” him in my 1/16 email to him????? Perhaps this guy really DID have a “persecution” complex as one poster mentioned on Cipher's website recently. I wrote back.....
Me (Wed 1/17): Hii Bruce, I'm angry that you said I threatened you in my previous email. Well, I've had it. I'm sure a judge would see otherwise. I'm requesting my funds, now. If I don't receive substantial payment within a week, various casino forums will hear about it (already at OPU) and legal action will be sought. BTW, I do not believe for one minute that 'bilgplaya' at Blackjackinfo.com is in trouble. You have no way of knowing who he is and his posting didn't have slanderous elements in it. Just the facts. I wanted to like you, Bruce, but saying that my previous email was 'threatening' you was the last straw.Timothy Bell Virginia Beach VA
Cipher (Wed 1/17): Until you tone yourself down do not call or write me again. Above all else do not delay in proceeding with any action you feel you may be able to persue. B. J. (cipher)
My brother has written emails to Bruce reminding him of a pending deadline to pay up. A week has gone by and now you, my dear reader, are reading this.
No Place like Normal
Would you ever think that a mutual fund manager be threatening his clients with lawsuits if you didn't like the way he was handling the funds? Certainly a refund of the original deposit would promptly be paid back. Cipher doesn't even try to explain why he can't pay without insulting people's intelligence. He doesn't even try to work out a payment plan.
Treating "clients" this way is NOT a trait of a legitimate investee or trust fund manager. I guess I and others in the same boat have a certain psychological quirk that makes us susceptible to manipulators like Cipher. I have to give credit to my brother for seeing Cipher for what he is sooner than I.
What Now?
It's sad that this post had to be done so that other people would not have to go through what I did. I know of several other people who are in the same boat but it's up to them to do what they have to do in their situation. Class-action lawsuit? Maybe.
Bruce has {had?} a good thing going with the Cipher software. I still use it {but haven't played online since September}. Has he gone bad? Was he bad all along? Was this a Ponzi scheme? All I know is that warning signs were around but because he had my money, I ignored them.
Legal action is likely and soon. Bruce just doesn't seem to be the kind person to try to mend things. Paying $20,000 now would be better for him than the continuing accumulation of interest into the balance...now closing in on $81,000, if this is brought to trail.
In the end, the Wizard of BJ was....just someone I made up.
I miss you, Mom.
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