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I have had this massage a few times in recent days,

This card has been designated as high risk. The transaction has been aborted for the cardholder's security, please contact support [SYS_1060

I contact help and they ask me for docs, This is b4 I deposit as this what comes up when try using card, I use barclays direct debit card, Nothing dodgy about this, Any thoughts why this could be happening or is this normall?

Thanks in advance
 
I have had this massage a few times in recent days,

No WONDER they think you are dodgy. :eek2:

You people make me sick.

On a general UK note mate, try wherever possible to not use debit cards that are directly linked to your UK bank account - particularly if there is a lot of online gambling activity. Or at least have a 'seperate' bank account for gambling only away from your regular one. Whilst it can be convenient for withdrawing etc, these sort of transactions are often frowned upon.

Which casino was it?
 
No WONDER they think you are dodgy. :eek2:

You people make me sick.

On a general UK note mate, try wherever possible to not use debit cards that are directly linked to your UK bank account - particularly if there is a lot of online gambling activity. Or at least have a 'seperate' bank account for gambling only away from your regular one. Whilst it can be convenient for withdrawing etc, these sort of transactions are often frowned upon.

Which casino was it?

I think it was guts or simaler, I have deposit using the same card a number of times but maybe other day I may have chaged payment to skrill, I canot remember which site but here is message of the cs,

Jill
They have checked the card and removed the risk guardian. You can make a deposit now with your card :) Sorry for the unconvenience!
Terry
ok, is it anythink for me to worry about or was it ur side
Jill
It is just safety measure, you don't need to worry about it, it is for your own safety :)


But the 2 new sites its come up on is jetbull & unibet, seem to have same banking, I sent ID of to unibet yestoday straight away and jetbull today when signed up, Still not got back, I have made a number of deposits, sinse yestoday, sky coral, bingocams 3 times, ladbrokes, another bingo site and verajohn just now and not a problem, Yes I do make a large number of deposits but small like 10-20£, I have a diffrent bank which I do not really use so maybe start using that one but I really canot see the problem?
 
I think it was guts or simaler, I have deposit using the same card a number of times but maybe other day I may have chaged payment to skrill, I canot remember which site but here is message of the cs,

Jill
They have checked the card and removed the risk guardian. You can make a deposit now with your card :) Sorry for the unconvenience!
Terry
ok, is it anythink for me to worry about or was it ur side
Jill
It is just safety measure, you don't need to worry about it, it is for your own safety :)


But the 2 new sites its come up on is jetbull & unibet, seem to have same banking, I sent ID of to unibet yestoday straight away and jetbull today when signed up, Still not got back, I have made a number of deposits, sinse yestoday, sky coral, bingocams 3 times, ladbrokes, another bingo site and verajohn just now and not a problem, Yes I do make a large number of deposits but small like 10-20£, I have a diffrent bank which I do not really use so maybe start using that one but I really canot see the problem?

Like they say, it's just to be on the safe side to avoid fraud etc. It's probably BECAUSE it's used across a lot of casino's maybe.

It's not a problem as such - just that, still, these sort of transactions can be frowned upon - particularly if there's a lot of them; and particularly again if you're asked to produce a statement at some point in the future for a mortgage/car etc etc.

Plus, having a separate one prevents you from pouring the mortgage payments into "Dead or Alive" when you're online at 2am, smashed off your tits on cheap vodka and entirely unable to control your bodily functions, never mind your bank account. *

It's just a good idea.





* Not something that has ever happened to me. Honest.
 
Cheers slotster, Just received email from unibet (Marija) stating This will now allow you to deposit at your leisure

If it's a visa debit card, or visa electron, then sign up for 'Verified by Visa' - the casinos like this because it means you're using a secure system that has been verified by your bank, and your bank won't block transactions because you've had to enter part of a passcode for each deposit.
 
It's all very well, but it is still unclear what the root problem was. I have also found that using VISA debit cards often causes the transaction to be put on hold, and then put through an additional layer of security. It even happened when making a pension contribution to my new SIPP last month. All that happens is that I almost immediately get an automated call from the bank that asks me to verify that I genuinely made the transaction, and when I do (which includes passing a security ID test as well), the block is removed and I am told that I "may have to attempt the transaction again".

The problem may well be down to these being "cardholder not present" transactions, which is all transactions over the internet. The other problem for casinos is that the processor name that the bank sees cloaks the merchant's identity, which probably makes the transaction even higher risk than a regular online one. I don't see the problem when making online purchases at well known retailers, and part of this may be down to the bank recognising the processor and being able to tie it to one of the retail giants.

Perhaps the casinos employ verification methods to the banks, adding an extra layer of security for customers who may not be so well protected by their banks, thus the decline could happen either side.

Even when it's my bank, I still see a merchant side error message telling me that the transaction has been declined, and it doesn't specify whether this was by the merchant or by the bank.

Loads of small transactions is also another risk flag, as often fraudsters will make many small transactions rather than a few large ones as it seems cardholders are less likely to notice.

Players are probably better off using one of the dedicated eWallets rather than their cards, despite a certain casino's insistence that "cards are better". It's simply that the likes of Neteller, unlike the average bank, don't keep tripping fraud alerts because a deposit has gone to an online gambling site.
 
Like they say, it's just to be on the safe side to avoid fraud etc. It's probably BECAUSE it's used across a lot of casino's maybe.

It's not a problem as such - just that, still, these sort of transactions can be frowned upon - particularly if there's a lot of them; and particularly again if you're asked to produce a statement at some point in the future for a mortgage/car etc etc.

Plus, having a separate one prevents you from pouring the mortgage payments into "Dead or Alive" when you're online at 2am, smashed off your tits on cheap vodka and entirely unable to control your bodily functions, never mind your bank account. *:lolup:

It's just a good idea.





* Not something that has ever happened to me. Honest.
Now I have an interesting picture in my head:D

You can also use just Skrill and Neteller and fund them with Ukash or Paysafecard. Skrill's fees on paysafecard vouchers are much less than Neteller btw. Another option is to get a reloadable card from someone like 02. These are good ways to control your gambling spending too in my opinion.
 
I do not no, as soon as received email about proved i could deposit, Every time I make a deposit it goes threw secure check out (BARCLAYS) unsure if it brings up barclays due to thats my bank or thats who is running the scheme? About 2 yrs back they used to double check with your secure pin but now this is not the case? I ask barclays and they stated that its not necessary? , Well I do not think its of my bank side but just done a skrill deposit using bank and fine, than again same site (videoslaots) (by card) after speaking to help they siad fine, and went threw ok,

Only thing I can think of if sites are passing info about but if thats the case than some sites have got it all, If not than I have sent enought docs off in the last few days than I have done in the last ten yrs, I got nothing to hide

(please not that I love a read on this fourm and post but my spelling not 100% or is grammer so please excuse me)
spell check helps but not 100% as still not no if right,

Any way I used this cards for years I had the bank all my life, I always depositing as stated in other threads up to 10 times a day easy(smal roling) I not even sure if banks involved or casino secruity, hut ad no letter of bank alow I did onse have a call about transaction but I think that was netteler, either way they processed it than rang me up, I have changed number (phone) after a good few years so may not up date bank yet but no letters,

Nothing has changed, still do about the same amout of depos and withdraws for years, Just be being para, I do apriacte any help, I would not of ask if was nothing to do with gambling
 

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