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I'd quite like a ask jeeves alternative to alexa, it was a good idea at the time but needed a bit more going on
You need to pipe down you’ve got far to much to say. Bonanza and the rest of there slots are disgusting rigged filth and it will all come out in the wash in good timeIt's a pointless exercise anyway- BTG would say; "no we didn't change the maths" and the OP would say "then how do you explain THIS" while posting an unlabeled graph of his last 36 spins.
Or maybe you need to handle swings in the rtp better and stop accusing a company of wrong doing just because of a bad return on a very limited amount of spins?You need to pipe down you’ve got far to much to say. Bonanza and the rest of there slots are disgusting rigged filth and it will all come out in the wash in good time
That’s just one site are you dumb. I play on a lot of sites and btg games have been rigged filthy and robbing since 12th aprilOr maybe you need to handle swings in the rtp better and stop accusing a company of wrong doing just because of a bad return on a very limited amount of spins?
I guess BTG and the operators are conspiring against you then! My bad...That’s just one site are you dumb. I play on a lot of sites and btg games have been rigged filthy and robbing since 12th april
That’s just one site are you dumb. I play on a lot of sites and btg games have been rigged filthy and robbing since 12th april
You need to pipe down you’ve got far to much to say.
It's quite simple to prove.Not sure they are 'easily disproven', the slots and casino industry is hardly the most transparent entity, basically the end user has to trust the system, which means that all the businesses act with honesty and integrity, and the regulating bodies know the technical side inside out, and their system of checks is very thorough. As people have mentioned previously look at VW and the emissions scandal, which involved software tricks deceiving the tests.
But wouldn't people say 'well you haven't done enough spins', it's unlikely you'd be able to if the slot was being feral to you.It's quite simple to prove.
First, take your argument; in this case- the RTP of bonanza has been reduced since 12th April or whatever. Then find statistically significant evidence to support that.
Statistically significant evidence is not you getting peeved you had a bad run for a few thousand spins.
If you distrust the publicly available figures at videoslots, slot tracker etc. then start logging your own results.
At the end of your study you have statistically undeniable proof that the RTP is not as advertised and that slot tracker, videoslots, any other site displaying RTP, the game developers, the testing houses are all frauds, that would be huge.
And yet, throughout the hundreds of these type of threads no one has ever bothered to try and prove their accusations that they are so sure of. Why is that? Because they want to be able to continue to blame external forces for their own actions.
The test labs do not look for exploits, they look for issues with compliance, RTP etc.We never know if the testing houses found such and such faults, look at that netent streetfighter exploit that slipped past the testing, have the playing public access to the explanation?
Yes but with such an exploit those in the know first can make the most of it. I think the testing labs should look for exploits and bugs, as part of being thorough.The test labs do not look for exploits, they look for issues with compliance, RTP etc.
If you want to point the finger at anyone for street fighter, It would be Netent and their internal QA. Also a bit of topic seeing how they actually made the game play at a higher than wanted RTP by making it abusable
But why should they? Studios do their own QA, and it's not up to a test lab to decide if the mechanics of a game live up to their standards, and frankly neither are most of them capable of. They're not mathematicians.Yes but with such an exploit those in the know first can make the most of it. I think the testing labs should look for exploits and bugs, as part of being thorough.
I sit somewhere in the middle on this topic, reading both pov, but I am skeptical abt business integrity and how competent the ukgc are.
Maybe having the thought 'it's rigged' is part of stopping when it's no longer fun, helps folk to quit, rather than spiral and chase. Disagree by all means but personal attacks and digs slip in too much imo.
But why should they? Studios do their own QA, and it's not up to a test lab to decide if the mechanics of a game live up to their standards, and frankly neither are most of them capable of. They're not mathematicians.
I don't think it would take all that many spins to be able to extrapolate where the RTP is going to converge, I'd want to ask @trancemonkey or someone who had experience testing how many spins you'd usually expect to get within 1-2% of RTP.In short
Easy to test if rtp running as its supposed to, kind of.
Realistic/possible for a player to do it, not even close.
Yeah, you could land within a couple % with a couple thousand spins.I don't think it would take all that many spins to be able to extrapolate where the RTP is going to converge, I'd want to ask @trancemonkey or someone who had experience testing how many spins you'd usually expect to get within 1-2% of RTP.
From personal tests in the past I've come within 3% of advertised RTP within a few thousand spins on about half a dozen games.
The thing is leaving them alone for a few days, hours etc shouldnt make a difference if the games work as they are supposed to.I love BTG games.. What I like to do when BTG slots are treating me like a $2 hoe is stop playing them and try some other providers.
What I don't do is try to muscle the games to perform my way and spin 100's of spins trying to get a huge win out of frustration
because they've been performing badly.
How many more threads will we see of "slots are rigged" because players want the games to perform how they want?
We play to lose, have fun doing it and sometimes, very rarely, get surprised by a nice win.