Btg how do you get away with it

[Kroffe]

And just to be clear, im still kind of on the fence about games being rigged or not.
I do think it could easily be done, and go undetected without problem, and as a player you kind of have to put your faith in a business driven by money&greed and that they are doing everything honestly and follow the rules in place.

Even if slots perform as they should, they will take 4-5% of your money over time.
Biggest issue for me is that there is no transparency more or less, and as a player i pretty much have no way to check if a slot is actually playing as it should.

 

[X-Raided]

The thing is leaving them alone for a few days, hours etc shouldnt make a difference if the games work as they are supposed to.
Rememeber that every spin is supposed to be random and have the same chance at hitting that big win,
So 'muscle the game' does not exist, every spin no matter when you make it have the same chance, right?
A bad session supposedly have the same chance as a good session to spit out a win at any given moment.
So leaving them for other games should make zero difference.

I always play to lose so to speak, but i still think there could be alot more transparancy about whats going on in the background.
Like Btg saying there is only one version of bonanza. Scatters not appearing in max megaways spins on some sites kind of implies there might be more than one version, but try getting Btg to actually answer whats going on and all you get is silence.

I understand the part of what you said with players wanting more information from BTG. Some players care about those type
of things and others simply don't. For example, I don't go into help files of games and look at RTP. I just want to spin and couldn't
be bothered with that sort of stuff. If I'm feeling a particular game, I open it up and spin.

Muscling a game for me simply means setting auto-spins at 100 spins, not see a feature and set it for another 100 and so on. I don't do
that but I know some players do. I hate Bonanza so I'll use Donuts as an example. I could spin 50 spins, feel like I'm going nowhere, hop
onto Book of Dead and get 3 books within 10 spins. I guess I'm an old fashioned gambler in the sense that I simply don't care about
the intricacies of a slot and more so if I'm "feeling" the slot at that given time.

 

[X-Raided]

Biggest issue for me is that there is no transparency more or less, and as a player i pretty much have no way to check if a slot is actually playing as it should.

Well, what are you going to do with that information if it's negative? Stop playing the games?

 

[Kroffe]

I understand the part of what you said with players wanting more information from BTG. Some players care about those type
of things and others simply don't. For example, I don't go into help files of games and look at RTP. I just want to spin and couldn't
be bothered with that sort of stuff. If I'm feeling a particular game, I open it up and spin.

Muscling a game for me simply means setting auto-spins at 100 spins, not see a feature and set it for another 100 and so on. I don't do
that but I know some players do. I hate Bonanza so I'll use Donuts as an example. I could spin 50 spins, see that the game isn't paying, hop
onto Book of Dead and get 3 books within 10 spins. I guess I'm an old fashioned gambler in the sense that I simply don't care about
the intricacies of a slot and more so if I'm "feeling" the slot at that given time.

Yeah, i do that aswell.
Well, except with Whos the bride, i often stay on that slot for waaay to long.
Sometimes it works out and you can 'grind' a wildline, but most of the time its one way trip to bust-town.

I was just pointing out that there is not supposed to be 'good' or 'bad' sessions on a slot, if everything works as its supopsed to, any given spin should have equal chance to land the bonus, big win etc.
But i think most players would agree that slots do get hot/cold streaks which are seemingly impossible to break.
So its easy to think you dont always have the same chance to win when playing.

 

[Kroffe]

Well, what are you going to do with that information if it's negative? Stop playing the games?

Stop, never, but i would swap to other games if it came out a game/provider was not delivering what they say.
Stopping is for quitters and my mama didnt raise a quitter.


But i do enjoy looking at data&stats for things like this.
The system they have in place at videoslots should be the gold standard imo for stats and every site should have something similar.
On some sites you cant even get your rtp/spincount without asking for it in chat.
Shouldnt be a hassle to see how much you have won/lost over a period imo.

 

[X-Raided]

So its easy to think you dont always have the same chance to win when playing.

But yet players keep coming back despite believing that they could be rigged against them.

Even if BTG comes out and states that there ARE different models of Bonanza, and that they do fuck players a little
with scatters on max megaways, players will still play.

Also, you love Who's The Bride way too much my man ?

 

[Kroffe]

But yet players keep coming back despite believing that they could be rigged against them.

Even if BTG comes out and states that there ARE different models of Bonanza, and that they do fuck players a little
with scatters on max megaways, players will still play.

Also, you love Who's The Bride way too much my man ?

I accept no responsibility for that.
Its not my fault its the best slot ever made.

 

[X-Raided]

I accept no responsibility for that.
Its not my fault its the best slot ever made.

??
It's not though! It's dreary!
It's about Indian brides and it's a clone of DOA lol

But I respect that you love it too damn much.

 

[Slottery]

But yet players keep coming back despite believing that they could be rigged against them.

That's kind of make often wonder WTF, constantly we read "XXXX is rigged" threads here and people who have strong belive in that, keep playing and playing these same slots month after month and not even to trying to make their point by tracking their play.

Industry is happy for this kind of loyal players but if i would think that my corner store always overcharges me everytime a little bit top of my real shoppings, i for sure would stop going there, but seem to be a different ballgame with slots, people are not interested to even track their play to get some stats to support their theories and still keep playing them months and months after knowing it's rigged.

 

[Kroffe]

??
It's not though! It's dreary!
It's about Indian brides and it's a clone of DOA lol

But I respect that you love it too damn much.

Its the perfect recipe.
They took the best slot at the time, and replaced the men with Asian women.
Of course it would turn out great.

PnG tried doing the same thing for moon princess, but they did it in reverse and made a clone with manly muscle-gods instead.
Not as effective.

 

[X-Raided]

That's kind of make often wonder WTF, constantly we read "XXXX is rigged" threads here and people who have strong belive in that, keep playing and playing these same slots month after month and not even to trying to make their point by tracking their play.

Industry is happy for this kind of loyal players but if i would think that my corner store always overcharges me everytime a little bit top of my real shoppings, i for sure would stop going there, but seem to be a different ballgame with slots, people are not interested to even track their play to get some stats to support their theories and still keep playing them months and months after knowing it's rigged.

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[Kroffe]

That's kind of make often wonder WTF, constantly we read "XXXX is rigged" threads here and people who have strong belive in that, keep playing and playing these same slots month after month and not even to trying to make their point by tracking their play.

Industry is happy for this kind of loyal players but if i would think that my corner store always overcharges me everytime a little bit top of my real shoppings, i for sure would stop going there, but seem to be a different ballgame with slots, people are not interested to even track their play to get some stats to support their theories and still keep playing them months and months after knowing it's rigged.

Difference is it would be super easy to check if the corner store is charging you more than it should.
Checking if an online slot is taking more than it should is more or less impossible to check.

 

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[Jono777]

What was the 'exploit' on Street Fighter

Never played it after watching the promotional video as they had seemingly turned one of my youthful days classic video games in to a pile of jerky trash

 

[X-Raided]

What was the 'exploit' on Street Fighter

Never played it after watching the promotional video as they had seemingly turned one of my youthful days classic video games in to a pile of jerky trash

Yeah Street Fighter was one of my favorite games too and NetEnt created that abomination of a slot.

I think the exploit had something to do with being able to change bet size while close to defeating a boss and keeping the higher
stake into the bonus round.

 

[Kroffe]

What was the 'exploit' on Street Fighter

Never played it after watching the promotional video as they had seemingly turned one of my youthful days classic video games in to a pile of jerky trash

I think you could 'build' the feature on low stakes and up your betsize before triggering it to gain an advantage.
The math that was supposed to give you a feature based on your average betszize wasnt working right.
Not 100% sure so dont quote me on that.

Edit: Najasaki beat me to it, thread is rigged against me.

 

[Slottery]

Difference is it would be super easy to check if the corner store is charging you more than it should.
Checking if an online slot is taking more than it should is more or less impossible to check.

Not sure it would be super easy if they would just add very little extra VAT to everything and your receipt match with amount charged. It just feel really weird that when you are so sure that somebody is cheating you, you keep going back and keep donating your money.

Which is my opinion of slot playing in general, still trying to find out why people spend money on these games where you can't do much better with any skills (much easier to understand people playing poker, trading in sport exchanges etc... where you can actually make money if you are good) but you just lose in long run, maybe i one day understand why people keep playing these games, I'm just happy I'm not

 

[X-Raided]

Its the perfect recipe.
They took the best slot at the time, and replaced the men with Asian women.
Of course it would turn out great.

PnG tried doing the same thing for moon princess, but they did it in reverse and made a clone with manly muscle-gods instead.
Not as effective.

You sure it's not deeper than that Kroffe? Let me see your browsing history to make sure you're not shopping
for mail order brides from the far East

 

[X-Raided]

Not sure it would be super easy if they would just add very little extra VAT to everything and your receipt match with amount charged. It just feel really weird that when you are so sure that somebody is cheating you, you keep going back and keep donating your money.

Which is my opinion of slot playing in general, still trying to find out why people spend money on these games where you can't do much better with any skills (much easier to understand people playing poker, trading in sport exchanges etc... where you can actually make money if you are good) but you just lose in long run, maybe i one day understand why people keep playing these games, I'm just happy I'm not

I think most of everything you said still falls under the addiction umbrella.

 

[Kroffe]

You sure it's not deeper than that Kroffe? Let me see your browsing history to make sure you're not shopping
for mail order brides from the far East

I cant afford it, i spend to much money playing Whos the bride.
Catch 22.

 

[Kroffe]

Not sure it would be super easy if they would just add very little extra VAT to everything and your receipt match with amount charged. It just feel really weird that when you are so sure that somebody is cheating you, you keep going back and keep donating your money.

Which is my opinion of slot playing in general, still trying to find out why people spend money on these games where you can't do much better with any skills (much easier to understand people playing poker, trading in sport exchanges etc... where you can actually make money if you are good) but you just lose in long run, maybe i one day understand why people keep playing these games, I'm just happy I'm not

Its entertainment, atleast for me.
Obviously more fun winning, but even losing sessions can provide entertainment/excitement.

Compared with other forms of entertainment that costs money, with online slotting its almost impossible to know if you get what you pay for.
If you pay for a movie its easy to see if the runtime is as advertised, the actors are the same as advertised etc.
You dont have to go see a movie a couple million times before you can accurately say you get or dont get what you pay for with the movie.
Same can not be said for slots.

 

[Slottery]

Its entertainment, atleast for me.
Obviously more fun winning, but even losing sessions can provide entertainment/excitement.

Compared with other forms of entertainment that costs money, with online slotting its almost impossible to know if you get what you pay for.
If you pay for a movie its easy to see if the runtime is as advertised, the actors are the same as advertised etc.
You dont have to go see a movie a couple million times before you can accurately say you get or dont get what you pay for with the movie.
Same can not be said for slots.

Why not to change form of entertainment to movies or some other form where this kind of stress is not needed? Just trying to understand how some people can get so much entertainment for watching reels spinning, but i'm also really happy that people keep playing these slots as owning gaming companies been quite hugely profitable last years, i rather gamble with them by buying their shares instead of playing their slots as don't believe i would be that person who hits multiple jackpots and get rich by playing slots (rigged or not, end result is pretty same).

If remember right, i've seen some articles that some actor in some movie was not all real but used some parts of body borrowed from another actor in some scenes, that probably would make that rigged movie?

 

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The game must be bent or been tampered with as you are running over %age!!!

Maybe it was changed in April like all other BTG games apparently!!

That’s a decent sample size there and shows what’s possible for and against.

Seems some people just don’t get that.

 

[X-Raided]

Its entertainment, atleast for me.
Obviously more fun winning, but even losing sessions can provide entertainment/excitement.

Compared with other forms of entertainment that costs money, with online slotting its almost impossible to know if you get what you pay for.
If you pay for a movie its easy to see if the runtime is as advertised, the actors are the same as advertised etc.
You dont have to go see a movie a couple million times before you can accurately say you get or dont get what you pay for with the movie.
Same can not be said for slots.

I can 100% agree with this statement.

But the reality is that you account for a very small percentage of players that play as a form of entertainment
and not as an addiction.

The question is why would a player keep hitting the spin button if a particular slot keeps slaughtering their balance
and they wholeheartedly believe that the game they're playing is without a shadow of a doubt, rigged?

 

[Kroffe]

Why not to change form of entertainment to movies or some other form where this kind of stress is not needed? Just trying to understand how some people can get so much entertainment for watching reels spinning, but i'm also really happy that people keep playing these slots as owning gaming companies been quite hugely profitable last years, i rather gamble with them by buying their shares instead of playing their slots as don't believe i would be that person who hits multiple jackpots and get rich by playing slots (rigged or not, end result is pretty same).

If remember right, i've seen some articles that some actor in some movie was not all real but used some parts of body borrowed from another actor in some scenes, that probably would make that rigged movie?

That kind of information is not available for slots, they dont show or talk about any behind the scenes stuff.
Good example showing how other kinds of entertainment is much more transparent about whats going on, thanks.

People can find entertainment in alot of different things.
Maybe you dont enjoy watching reels spins, maybe instead you enjoy watching people run around on the grass chasing after a ball, or watching people swim in the water really fast or driving a car round and round and round and round a track, or watch horses run round and round and round a track etc.
Tons of people enjoy those things, i dont understand what people find so entertaining about it, but i dont think its weird just because i dont understand it.

 

[Halvor]

I don't think it would take all that many spins to be able to extrapolate where the RTP is going to converge, I'd want to ask @trancemonkey or someone who had experience testing how many spins you'd usually expect to get within 1-2% of RTP.

From personal tests in the past I've come within 3% of advertised RTP within a few thousand spins on about half a dozen games.

To be fair, it takes a massive amount of spins, and the more volatile the game the bigger sample. There's a reason why games are tested on millions of spins.

But seeing how we got a good 30-40 frequent and infrequent posters that believes every losing session is rigged, combined they can reach numbers that actually start reflecting the rtp.

That said I often find myself significantly lower than the rtp over thousands of spins. Just as my 800% something rtp on book of Ra at videoslots also sticks out.

 

[Kroffe]

I can 100% agree with this statement.

But the reality is that you account for a very small percentage of players that play as a form of entertainment
and not as an addiction.

The question is why would a player keep hitting the spin button if a particular slot keeps slaughtering their balance
and they wholeheartedly believe that the game they're playing is without a shadow of a doubt, rigged?

How else am i supposed to find out who the bride is?
Pretty sure they reveal the answer once you manage to fill the screen with wilds in the bonus.
Probably.

But on a more serious note, atleast for me, like i said im on the fence.
I dislike the lack of transparancy, but am not prepared to say everything is rigged due to some bad sessions.
All have their good&bad games, and what games people decide are good or bad are often a direct result of their luck on the slot.

Doa2 is probably a good example of that.
If you have hit a couple big hits on it, you probably think its a pretty good game, but for all the people that never get that 10 000x+ win its probably a pretty bad slot.

 

[Slottery]

That kind of information is not available for slots, they dont show or talk about any behind the scenes stuff.
Good example showing how other kinds of entertainment is much more transparent about whats going on, thanks.

People can find entertainment in alot of different things.
Maybe you dont enjoy watching reels spins, maybe instead you enjoy watching people run around on the grass chasing after a ball, or watching people swim in the water really fast or driving a car round and round and round and round a track, or watch horses run round and round and round a track etc.
Tons of people enjoy those things, i dont understand what people find so entertaining about it, but i dont think its weird just because i dont understand it.

That wasn't told to people that part of the body was borrowed, it just leaked out from somewhere, so not really transparent

I fully understand that people like different things, just said that it's hard to me understand how much people do like slots and playing them, like you said, many don't understand someone watching football, horses or do some many other things, it's good that we have these days great selection of entertainment to choose so we all don't need to like everything.

 

[Jackstar]

I can 100% agree with this statement.

But the reality is that you account for a very small percentage of players that play as a form of entertainment
and not as an addiction.

The question is why would a player keep hitting the spin button if a particular slot keeps slaughtering their balance
and they wholeheartedly believe that the game they're playing is without a shadow of a doubt, rigged?

I’m a bonanza player and play it a LOT, I have a good moan about how shit it can be but I’m sure I’m not alone when I keep hitting the spin button thinking surely it’s due to pay lol
Nature of the beast with gambling you get the frustration etc when it’s on a cold streak .. like Kroffe says if it’s random it shouldn’t play hot or cold and when it clearly is on a cold streak the frustration can feel like the games rigged lol
I’m not saying it is but just the emotions come into play along with a bit of paranoia no doubt

 

[X-Raided]

How else am i supposed to find out who the bride is?
Pretty sure they reveal the answer once you manage to fill the screen with wilds in the bonus.
Probably.

Congratulations! You won $0.00 in free spins!

 

[X-Raided]

I’m a bonanza player and play it a LOT, I have a good moan about how shit it can be but I’m sure I’m not alone when I keep hitting the spin button thinking surely it’s due to pay lol
Nature of the beast with gambling you get the frustration etc when it’s on a cold streak .. like Kroffe says if it’s random it shouldn’t play hot or cold and when it clearly is on a cold streak the frustration can feel like the games rigged lol
I’m not saying it is but just the emotions come into play along with a bit of paranoia no doubt

I mean, yeah, I get both of your points. But I still think that much of sticking around for the abuse that a slot is dishing out
with the hopes that it will turn around and start to give has to do a little or a lot with problem gambling and addiction, (depending on the player).

"Insanity Is Doing the Same Thing Over and Over Again and Expecting Different Results"​

 

[Jackstar]

Yeah I agree, there’s definitely a level of addiction to be doing that as well as a bit of insanity ?

 

[X-Raided]

Yeah I agree, there’s definitely a level of addiction to be doing that as well as a bit of insanity ?

Exactly

 

[Davey86]

Still winning everyone never said other than big time gaming

 

[abuyang]

Here is a question. As we know, many providers have released the low RTP versions of their slots. Some as low as 84%. And I know that many many casinos have started using those low rtp slot settings. And we also have providers like BTG, Endorphina and some others who claim they have one and only version for their slots’ RTP. But this means BTG are losing to the competitors each and every day. While the guys from Playngo are pocketing 16% fee from anyone playing their slots, the guys from BTG are doing their business with 4% maximum. Is this situation sustainable in real life? I don’t think so. What is a possible solution here? One obvious is to keep the 96% RTP tag while reducing the ACTUAL RTP to 80-90%: all this just to survive in the business.
That is why I find the OP arguments deserving attention. Never before the last 2 years have the casino software providers played so many dodgy games with their slots payback numbers.

 

[Jono777]

My take on that is I'd rather have 100,000 players playing at 96% than 1,000 players playing at 84%.

This is what we will see from players 'in the know' once this RTP nerfing takes full effect and the casinos and providers (if any / many) that stand by the higher settings, will (eeeevvveenntuuualllyy) have the majority share hold of players who still bother.

Then again a morally none existent industry does not care and will probably prey on the vulnerable, inexperienced and addicts who'd play at 50%RTP just to get their fix

 

[slotmaster]

You sure it's not deeper than that Kroffe? Let me see your browsing history to make sure you're not shopping
for mail order brides from the far East

kroffe is in Sweden, plenty of women there and they run the country and in charge so I have heard.

 

[Kroffe]

kroffe is in Sweden, plenty of women there and they run the country and in charge so I have heard.

Thats how all countries work.
Men thinking they are in charge of the household or anything else when theres a woman in the picture are just kidding themselves.

They can act like it as much as they want when around friends, but as soon as wife gets angry its all 'yes dear' 'of course dear' etc.
Just how the world works.

 

[09237653]

BTG games are volatile but they are not bent, just looking through my RTP stats (which is still a relatively small sample) the games are showing:

White rabbit 30644 spins = 98.81%
Lil devil 51414 spins = 100.57%
Holy diver 62646 spins = 93.6% (ouch)
Wild flower 14957 spins = 96.33%
Beef lightning 9471 spins = 100.25%

 

[X-Raided]

Thats how all countries work.
Men thinking they are in charge of the household or anything else when theres a woman in the picture are just kidding themselves.

They can act like it as much as they want when around friends, but as soon as wife gets angry its all 'yes dear' 'of course dear' etc.
Just how the world works.

Truest shit ever! My wife runs the show in our house and if she ain't happy, my life is turned upside down. Well put.

 

[X-Raided]

kroffe is in Sweden, plenty of women there and they run the country and in charge so I have heard.

Well, there you go. How far fetched is it that he might be looking for a subservient little Asian woman from across the seas?

There's just something else there with regards to his infatuation with the slot Who's The Bride.

 

[kennygamerboy]

Here is a question. As we know, many providers have released the low RTP versions of their slots. Some as low as 84%. And I know that many many casinos have started using those low rtp slot settings. And we also have providers like BTG, Endorphina and some others who claim they have one and only version for their slots’ RTP. But this means BTG are losing to the competitors each and every day. While the guys from Playngo are pocketing 16% fee from anyone playing their slots, the guys from BTG are doing their business with 4% maximum. Is this situation sustainable in real life? I don’t think so. What is a possible solution here? One obvious is to keep the 96% RTP tag while reducing the ACTUAL RTP to 80-90%: all this just to survive in the business.
That is why I find the OP arguments deserving attention. Never before the last 2 years have the casino software providers played so many dodgy games with their slots payback numbers.

They’ve been changed on the quiet there’s no way bonanza extra chilli and wwtbma are the same rtp. Promise you within 3 months btg will go public with the variable rtps. They’ve been changed already though.

 

[Jono777]

BTG games are volatile but they are not bent, just looking through my RTP stats (which is still a relatively small sample) the games are showing:

White rabbit 30644 spins = 98.81%
Lil devil 51414 spins = 100.57%
Holy diver 62646 spins = 93.6% (ouch)
Wild flower 14957 spins = 96.33%
Beef lightning 9471 spins = 100.25%

Guessing White Rabbit only just made the list thanks to earlier tho eh?

 

[09237653]

Guessing White Rabbit only just made the list thanks to earlier tho eh?

Admittedly that did help, I have had 1000x plus on all of those recently except beef lightning.

 

[Halvor]

They’ve been changed on the quiet there’s no way bonanza extra chilli and wwtbma are the same rtp. Promise you within 3 months btg will go public with the variable rtps. They’ve been changed already though.

And of course they would do it illegally first, because logics.

So how many spins are your samples from earlier based on?

 

[neon claws]

Even if slots perform as they should, they will take 4-5% of your money over time.

Correction: 100%.
They'll take 4-5% of your bet each spin, on average.

 

[neon claws]

Here is a question. As we know, many providers have released the low RTP versions of their slots. Some as low as 84%. And I know that many many casinos have started using those low rtp slot settings. And we also have providers like BTG, Endorphina and some others who claim they have one and only version for their slots’ RTP. But this means BTG are losing to the competitors each and every day. While the guys from Playngo are pocketing 16% fee from anyone playing their slots, the guys from BTG are doing their business with 4% maximum. Is this situation sustainable in real life? I don’t think so. What is a possible solution here? One obvious is to keep the 96% RTP tag while reducing the ACTUAL RTP to 80-90%: all this just to survive in the business.
That is why I find the OP arguments deserving attention. Never before the last 2 years have the casino software providers played so many dodgy games with their slots payback numbers.

See the above post.
Any slot with less than 100% RTP will take all your money after enough spins.
So a punter putting $100 through a slot with 84% RTP is losing just as much money as one putting it through a slot with 96% RTP, just faster.

So the game company providing the 96% slot gets as much money as the one providing 84%, but provides a better experience for the player and so is now likely to retain them for future sessions.

 

[abuyang]

See the above post.
Any slot with less than 100% RTP will take all your money after enough spins.
So a punter putting $100 through a slot with 84% RTP is losing just as much money as one putting it through a slot with 96% RTP, just faster.

So the game company providing the 96% slot gets as much money as the one providing 84%, but provides a better experience for the player and so is now likely to retain them for future sessions.

What you wrote is right only on one condition: there is unlimited money available for spend by the players. In reality, the players losing fast at 16% rate will not have any more money to play at other slots providers with the lower house edge.
I think that providers with drastically different RTP settings cannot coexist for long at one and the same casino. A race to the bottom is inevitable. And this is what is already happening with the industry at the moment.

 

[abuyang]

White rabbit 30644 spins = 98.81%
Lil devil 51414 spins = 100.57%
Holy diver 62646 spins = 93.6% (ouch)
Wild flower 14957 spins = 96.33%
Beef lightning 9471 spins = 100.25%

What is a time period of your gameplay? Things have really changed (for me) since April this year. My overall RTP AFTER 50000 spins playing conservatively and only slots with advertised RTP 95% or higher is 83%. At this point I am just afraid of putting any more money into casinos. Don’t remember having this attitude any time in the past 10 years.

 

[aceking123]

Simple check for chasing & playing give it up.
With all the rtp% changing & the ukgc restrictions it now become to much trouble to bother playing.
Instead of moaning & bitching about it,only play at casinos with max rtp% if you believe they're running it.

I've taken a year out to see what will happen,ive been saying something isn't right for years to get fobbed off with bullcrap.