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paul7388

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Okay think people have misunderstood this game and what Nikant means.

He did not respin the reels . If you have first 2 reels with no possible win then you can indeed lock first 2 reels and indeed all bets after which are independent spins would only cost 1p a bet like he says.

Try it yourselves and you will see. So he could then play a thousand independent spins all at 1p as only chance of a win is to get 3 books for feature on 3 remaining reels.

So technically he broke no rules as there was nothing about minimum bets or lines.

Morally i think it is so wrong that someone would manipulate the comp. But whatever my opinion on what he did he still technically won.
 

dave1888

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You're a cheater nikan pure and simple! And I'm going to call you out right now. You've had the audacity to beg us all for money on pm yet you cheat us and treat us all like something you stepped in. I vote we ban nikan from all future competitions on here. As this isn't a first offence every single comp you look for a loophole or edge.
 

dave1888

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@paul7388 it states clearly that s bonus buy counts as 5x if it's bought for 100 and win is 500 how is respinning any different to s bonus buy? Would you be happy in my shoes pal?
 

geordiecolin

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Yes, because it was loophole and I suppose you couldn't really be seen to close it retrospectively.

But reps need to be aware of this, all reps, when running similar competitions.

You have to remove opportunity for some being able to load the dice in their favour. All players should have the same chance and no way to affect game volatility using miniature stakes with little financial risk but a very good chance of high multiplies thereof.

As he has not technically broken the rules because it was not expressly forbidden they've honoured the result. Nobody can deny it leaves a sour taste though. If I had entered, I would be whining like a b admittedly.

We should now all learn from this.
I have never suggested this before but before it escalates and folk get banned and/or upset and with respect for Maja who does not deserve anymore grief could you close the thread at least for a while?
 

dunover

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Ok, everyone's vented their spleen here. Everything is pretty self-explanatory and the more angry posts that are added here will further condemn what should have been a happy and quite generous comp into the bowels of hell.

Remember Maja has to see all this too and although it's absolutely not down to her, it can't be pleasant for a new rep to witness this crapola.

I have sent a report about this higher up the food chain. When it's been considered I'm sure there will be an update. For now, reluctantly it needs closing. Thanks for your understanding.
 

maxd

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I've had to spend the better part of my afternoon and evening on this and the evidence I've seen from the parties involved -- a good bit of it private and offline I'm afraid -- I have no choice but to conclude that nikantw's activities on and offline are unbecoming of a Casinomeister forum member.

If he had behaved this way on his own, without using his Casinomeister forum membership as his platform, then that would be bad enough but as it is he's made us a party to actions and that is not acceptable.

His response is that he's done nothing wrong and is shocked that anyone says he has. C'est la vie. I've wished him well and will be sending him on his way.

- Max
 

geordiecolin

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Thank you Max on your time and effort on this issue. The best conclusion that could have been reasonably came to given his conduct both on the forum and off it. Especially for the future of comp's in Casinomeister :)
 
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geordiecolin

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As I expected the mods and the owner as I said before are fair and decent.
Much respect for that, you done the right thing.
Also big props to maja, a great women and superb rep whom I’m sure all will agree we want to stick around.
Maja has been helpful to me with various issues right from the beginning of her being here and my signing up to her various sites. I feel sad that this comp ended up in her most likely feeling so conflicted and compromised.
I look forward to this thread being consigned to history via the closed button because it ended up being sullied by a one dimensional person
 

Supababe

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@Maja Branders Partners
How are you today? I hope you’re feeling a little less despondent.
We hope you have seen, not only the worst of the community but also the strength and character we have to be ‘advocates of fair play’.
Have a great day.
Ps. Although you didn’t get 10 participants in the comp it wasn’t through lack of interest lol.
I deposited a couple of times with the intention of entering but couldn’t even muster a x10 win lol
 

Maja Branders Partners

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How are you today? I hope you’re feeling a little less despondent.
We hope you have seen, not only the worst of the community but also the strength and character we have to be ‘advocates of fair play’.
Have a great day.
Ps. Although you didn’t get 10 participants in the comp it wasn’t through lack of interest lol.
I deposited a couple of times with the intention of entering but couldn’t even muster a x10 win lol
Hi @Supababe
I wasn't disapointed yesterday and I'm not disapointed today.
You are a good community and I'm happy to be a part of this, will do my best to be active with other reps as well so we all learn from this :thumbsup:
 

chiya

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Dang, i was wondering what Jamie and Supababe were hinting at in the BTG comp...noone pointed me here but i am quite shocked by this! You think you know people :what:

It's because I doubt anyone wanted to outright point their finger at nikan, while he was a member of this community still. At least I didn't want to call out any names. Though now with the way events unfolded, I suppose it's fine now.

I'll be honest. The only reason I even posted that thing about cheaters was because I had just previously read this thread. I couldn't help but wonder if he'd pull the same stunt on the btg comp. And who's to say someone else hasn't? This is in response to your thought that you would imagine no one here (in btg comp) would cheat. Truth is, you never know.

Ahem, as got the topic in this thread.. Glad to see justice has been served. Shame about the prize though, and the rightful #1 winner of this comp.
 

dunover

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It's because I doubt anyone wanted to outright point their finger at nikan, while he was a member of this community still. At least I didn't want to call out any names. Though now with the way events unfolded, I suppose it's fine now.

I'll be honest. The only reason I even posted that thing about cheaters was because I had just previously read this thread. I couldn't help but wonder if he'd pull the same stunt on the btg comp. And who's to say someone else hasn't? This is in response to your thought that you would imagine no one here (in btg comp) would cheat. Truth is, you never know.

Ahem, as got the topic in this thread.. Glad to see justice has been served. Shame about the prize though, and the rightful #1 winner of this comp.
The BTG comp couldn't be fiddled as it's a fixed-ways slot. As you know, I had access to the game several weeks before the entrants so for all you people know I could've posted screenshots I'd collected previous to the comp date and used them, which is why once I posted the first, I realized I should include the clock/date from the bottom right of my PC so you would all know I'd hit the wins AFTER the comp began so I had the same chance as everyone else. That has proved to be moot anyway, because I can't hit a cow's arse with a banjo on Starclusters. I still say the 3k x one will win easily. :thumbsup:
 
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