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Betswagger - free-roll specialists

”Betswagger.com (Curacao 1668/JAZ license): Betswagger free-rolled the player for £30,000+ by allowing the player to deposit and play then confiscated all winnings when the player requested a withdrawal citing "restricted country" as their excuse. At the very least the casino should have returned the deposits but instead they totally ignored the complaint.”

Copy and paste from casinomeisters general warning.
 
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Ye they accepted all my deposits and then banned my account and said they aren't allowed to accept UK deposits but new I was a UK resident on sign up

Nobody in that country seems to be able to help even though the casino and there payment processor have broken many laws
 
smitty1990 said:
It's because id deposits lots ov money they just blocked my account and said they can't accept UK deposits and told me I tried to circumvent there blocks to join the casino
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if they dont accept from UK way all jackpots and bonus are in £, report them to UKGC


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justdoit said:
... report them to UKGC
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If you've got the time and energy go for it but from what we've heard and seen over the years the chances aren't good that the UKGC can or will do anything.

- Max
 
Yes that's what happened to me but because I'd lost alot ov money to them they just banned my account straight away and said they can't accept UK deposits but wouldn't refund the deposits so basically they agreed they couldn't accept UK players after accepting numerous deposits from me
 
justdoit said:
if they dont accept from UK way all jackpots and bonus are in £, report them to UKGC


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LOL...Betsoft, the bent jackpot system that never pays them out. Rogue casino, fake software and bent providers of any actual real software. I am surprised Betshagger are even being brought up on here nowadays, given they were exposed for the defrauding scum they are years ago:

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Ye there just ignoring all my correspondence after I requested my deposits to be refunded because after I lost so much they closed my account and said they didn't accept UK deposits and didn't no I was a UK resident and id regret it if I contacted them again

William dornat the fakest name I've ever heard( just wish I new his real name to call them out on this or whoever are behind the operation
 
There probably won't be anyone out there who can confront this crook site to refund my deposits because they just don't correspond with anyone.. anyone involved in the casino just blocks any messages from me for example a lady from apparently betswaggers egaming Curacao manager read my message and blocked the chat instantly
 
smitty1990 said:
There probably won't be anyone out there who can confront this crook site to refund my deposits because they just don't correspond with anyone.. anyone involved in the casino just blocks any messages from me for example a lady from apparently betswaggers egaming Curacao manager read my message and blocked the chat instantly
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I see the frustration here but you've been scammed, accept it. Cup-o-cocoa licenses are handed out for a few banknotes and a bottle of firewater slipped into the application form, handed to a fat bloke dressed in a white tropical suit with cigar ash falling over it in a rickety hut somewhere. They are meaningless and worthless, there's no proper investigative gambling infrastructure provided there, it's a just a corrupt flag of convenience to provide income to a banana republic and nobody cares where the money comes from or how it's obtained. The money doesn't even stay there, it's channeled back to Israel, Cyprus, Malta or Eastern Europe via secondary companies in the names of stooge nominees.

Yes, some relatively honest casinos use Cure-a-cow for convenience and tax reasons plus the fact they don't look too closely at accounts. The Dutch government is aware of the criminal activity and money laundering too, but doesn't try too hard, same as the UK govt. in regard to BVI or Cayman Islands. If you actually check, the 'office addresses' given by many casinos, including giants like Stake.com are simply a tin-roofed storeroom & shithouse located by a dusty car park.
 
So can you actually see who or find out who is behind betswagger as I no that there payment processor who takes money on behalf of the casino is based in Cyprus and they haven't paid tax in 3 years since taking payments for the casino. Betswagger were taken to court a few months back to pay withheld winnings and were told that there terms and conditions are null and void and anyone who has tanscated with this casino can request a refund but it's how you go about it because the casino just dont respond using the fakest same names to respond to emails I've ever heard in William dornat and Felicia Johnson
 
Ye the casino are falsely advertising to UK players when they can't accept UK deposits only telling you this afer you deposited a big amount and the casino decided to ban your account instantly and then send threatening emails like I'll regret it if I ask for a refund on my deposits again ?
 
Ah fraud was definitely the wrong route to go down it would have been misrepresentation also the time limit would be well over by now.

Out of interest did they take the payment in Euros or Dollars?
 
smitty1990 said:
Because the casino sent me an email saying that they can't accept UK deposits so therefore they've basically admitted they shouldn't have taken the money but still won't refund it.. you get me?
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Yeah i get you and it is bad that you never got money back.

But as it was a year ago and bank refused then and everyone said that it was a shithole of a casino the money was gone.

So i know it was a lot of money but after a year knowing no way of getting it back i would be trying to forget it and move on. Can not be doing you a lot of good trying to keep chasing a lost cause.
 
Guntis said:
You can give it a try to get something back via usoftgaming.com, it is the company that likely owns this casino and a couple of others where players can play roulette and watch some nearly playing with each other. :D

P.S They're unlikely to help, but it's worth a shot
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Hi guntis

Thankyou for your message

I've emailed usoftgaming numerous times to no response it's like they don't want to reply to any emails I send them

paul7388 said:
Yeah i get you and it is bad that you never got money back.

But as it was a year ago and bank refused then and everyone said that it was a shithole of a casino the money was gone.

So i know it was a lot of money but after a year knowing no way of getting it back i would be trying to forget it and move on. Can not be doing you a lot of good trying to keep chasing a lost cause.
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Very true Paul

But when I casino accepts they can't accept UK deposits or players and said they didn't no I was a UK resident which is bullshit after I used UK verification to the casino this should mean I should be able somehow to get my deposit money back if there not to accept it even the payment processor who takes money on behalf of the casino haven't paid tax in 3 years
 
I mean if you really want to try you can raise a complaint with the FOS against Halifax.

They should always raise a chargeback that has a chance of success.

Visas own rules state any gambling transactions should have a licence to operate in the country they take deposits from.

Having a look at betswagger terms I can see no reference to prohibited countries so would seem like a case for misrepresentation.
 
toms596 said:
I mean if you really want to try you can raise a complaint with the FOS against Halifax.

They should always raise a chargeback that has a chance of success.

Visas own rules state any gambling transactions should have a licence to operate in the country they take deposits from.

Having a look at betswagger terms I can see no reference to prohibited countries so would seem like a case for misrepresentation.
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Hi Tom the fos stuck in favour of the bank which I really didn't understand because betswagger are only licenced in there country therefore they allow UK players to joing simply for them to deposit numerous amounts and then ban accounts instantly even when they are forced to pay some winnings out but when you deposit your own money and the winnings you received also they just ban accounts and make excuses up like they did with me
 
There has to be a law somewhere that states that casino has broken rules by accepting UK players and deposits if they no they aren't supposed to and then ban accounts after they allow so many transactions because they amount to thousands like mine
 
toms596 said:
Did you have winnings or did you lose the balance?
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I had to fight for my winnings but once I gave them that back plus my own deposits that's when they banned my account and said they didn't accept UK players or deposits and they didn't no I was from the UK and if I contact them again I would regret it so they no they did wrong by accepting UK players
 
toms596 said:
I'm sure there is a law but it would only apply to operating in the UK so they are unreachable basically
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That's the problem no one in our country can make it get the deposits back because they don't even no who's behind betswagger I even tried to contact there payment processor who are called pulsion processing limited but they seem to have no appropriate contact details to reach them
 
smitty1990 said:
That's the problem no one in our country can make it get the deposits back because they don't even no who's behind betswagger I even tried to contact there payment processor who are called pulsion processing limited but they seem to have no appropriate contact details to reach them
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That's not really true. Even if you knew the name and home address of all the people running Betswagger it wouldn't do you much good unless they were in a jurisdiction reachable by the laws of your country. The fact is that the only country that has any control over the goings-on in Curacao is the Netherlands and some of their politicians have been fighting for decades to get something done about the appalling state of the casino industry in Curacao with extremely limited results.

Even if there were laws in your country against casinos doing what Betswagger is doing who is going to enforce those laws on a company registered in another country? Unless the two governments agree on mutual cooperation regarding those specific circumstances -- and that is very difficult in itself to achieve -- you still need someone to show up at the bad guy's door and drag them off to jail. Who is going to do that? And while you are trying to answer that ask yourself if that is really a priority for your country and theirs to go through all the red tape and bureaucracy to get it done. I'll save you some time: it isn't, it never has been and it ain't gonna happen any time soon.

So no, there are no EFFECTIVE laws to pursue people who do this kind of thing. That's why people need to educate themselves __before__ they hand over their cash to pirates they'll never know, see or ever have a prayer of reaching if something goes wrong. Sorry but the responsibility is yours and yours alone. No matter how much people like us try to educate players it's all just hot air unless someone takes the time to read it, understand it, and conduct themselves accordingly. Meaning you, for example. :)

I could go on about the issues with licensing in Curacao but I suspect it would be another case of people suddenly finding something else to do with their Sunday afternoon.
 
No one can even find out who runs betswagger or were from as it's to difficult to solve but thankyou I appreciate your message

justdoit said:
u should report it as not deliver not fraud, halifax dont know where u spend and most of this ? casinos charger form shops in Africa Azerbaijani Turkey etc
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maxd said:
That's not really true. Even if you knew the name and home address of all the people running Betswagger it wouldn't do you much good unless they were in a jurisdiction reachable by the laws of your country. The fact is that the only country that has any control over the goings-on in Curacao is the Netherlands and some of their politicians have been fighting for decades to get something done about the appalling state of the casino industry in Curacao with extremely limited results.

Even if there were laws in your country against casinos doing what Betswagger is doing who is going to enforce those laws on a company registered in another country? Unless the two governments agree on mutual cooperation regarding those specific circumstances -- and that is very difficult in itself to achieve -- you still need someone to show up at the bad guy's door and drag them off to jail. Who is going to do that? And while you are trying to answer that ask yourself if that is really a priority for your country and theirs to go through all the red tape and bureaucracy to get it done. I'll save you some time: it isn't, it never has been and it ain't gonna happen any time soon.

So no, there are no EFFECTIVE laws to pursue people who do this kind of thing. That's why people need to educate themselves __before__ they hand over their cash to pirates they'll never know, see or ever have a prayer of reaching if something goes wrong. Sorry but the responsibility is yours and yours alone. No matter how much people like us try to educate players it's all just hot air unless someone takes the time to read it, understand it, and conduct themselves accordingly. Meaning you, for example. :)

I could go on about the issues with licensing in Curacao but I suspect it would be another case of people suddenly finding something else to do with their Sunday afternoon.
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