Best MG game for WR playthrough?

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What is everyone's favorite Microgaming game for playing through wagering requirements? I deposited $50 and got $80 bonus; WR is 20x = $2,600. Currently I have wagered 5x and I am up by $20.

I would really like to not go bust (wouldn't we all). What games do you all play to try to get through ridiculous wagering requirements? And do you use AutoPlay to help you do it? Please feel free to suggest any game, as I will check my T&C before attempting to play anything which might be excluded.

Thanks in advance!
 

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I'm a slots only player SlotsJunkie, so in my case, T & C's usually never play a role. Actually, neither do wagering requirements, because I so rarely cashout, lol.

But if I am really making an effort to meet playthrough, quite often I will go back to some of the three reel slots, with a multiplier ie. Cash Clams, Spectacular, Sonic Boom just to name a couple. I find that sometimes the payout on those allows you to at least maintain your balance while contributing towards playthrough. I seldom bet over 50 cents a spin, unless I get over $150 and I never use autoplay.

Doubt that helps much, usually I just play. If I win, I win. If I don't, I don't. No big deal.
 

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Pinababy69 said:
I'm a slots only player SlotsJunkie, so in my case, T & C's usually never play a role. Actually, neither do wagering requirements, because I so rarely cashout, lol.
Same here - on all counts. I'll check out some table and VP games periodically but I always come running back to the slots! LOL :)

Pinababy69 said:
But if I am really making an effort to meet playthrough, quite often I will go back to some of the three reel slots, with a multiplier ie. Cash Clams, Spectacular, Sonic Boom just to name a couple. I find that sometimes the payout on those allows you to at least maintain your balance while contributing towards playthrough. I seldom bet over 50 cents a spin, unless I get over $150 and I never use autoplay.
I was thinking something along these lines. In fact I recently "discovered" Chief's Magic which has a top payout of 600 coins, no wilds, no multipliers, and for that matter, no blanks on the reels either. Such a low "jackpot" means all the other combinations hit more frequently. But unfortunately the casino I'm at now doesn't have this game so I'm looking for alternatives.

Pinababy69 said:
Doubt that helps much, usually I just play. If I win, I win. If I don't, I don't. No big deal.
It helped, thank you!
 

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Jacks or Better 50-line with total bet of 2.5$ has very low variance and payout is 99.54%. And it can autoplay. This is the best payout% of all videopokers except All Aces which is only single line and not autoplay, and JoB also has very low variance for VP.

2000$ wagering requirement is 800 autospins with a total bet of 2.5$ which again is 40000 hands in (can be seen in the statistic pop-up). I autospin and set it to stop with a win higher than 40$ (1 RF, pat 4oK, pat SF). RF cycle is about 40K hands, so you should hit 1 on average.

Under options change speed to 'fastest' before you start autospin.
Except for BJ I do not know a better way to clear wagering requirment that this. All Aces does have higher payout but
with the extreme variance and miminum bet 1.25$ on only 1 line, this would be risky (and no autoplay), but have the
highest EV if you master optimal strategy. Because you bankroll is so low, JoB 50-line is way the best way to go.
I have cleared wagering requirements totalling over 100K$ this way (probably several 100K$) most on bet 5$ total though.

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I always play Skull Duggery. Usually when I am down to a few dollars or even cents, I seem to get a long play session out of this game. My 50 cents or so usually ends up going back up to $5.00. I know thats not much but my point is you can grind out some time on this slot. Hope that helps you.:)
 

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Thanks for the great advice Zoozie! And thank you to ballysdb too.

Zoozie said:
Because you bankroll is so low, JoB 50-line is way the best way to go. I have cleared wagering requirements totalling over 100K$ this way (probably several 100K$) most on bet 5$ total though.
Hmmm.... do I have you to thank for the reason that JoB 50-play is excluded from my WR? LOL
 

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Hmmm.... do I have you to thank for the reason that JoB 50-play is excluded from my WR? LOL

I have also cleared wagering requirements where JoB was not allowed. Some also
does not alllow multiline VP.

You can then go for 50-line dueces wild (DW) that has payout 99.37% but variance is much higher. Still it is the best you can do besides JoB if table games like BJ are not allowed. Slots have 95-96% payout% so I would definately not go for slots.

If only single VP allowed and JoB not allowed, go for 'All american' or 'Aces and faces' and make the software autoplay.


Remember NEVER to play single line DW on MG that has payout 96%. I you want to be robbed, play slots instead, they are much more fun. I think
MG ruined single line DW so some casinos could allow this game for bonus
purposes and stilll have a huge edge.
 
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Zoozie said:
I have also cleared wagering requirements where JoB was not allowed. Some also
does not alllow multiline VP.

You can then go for 50-line dueces wild (DW) that has payout 99.37% but variance is much higher. Still it is the best you can do besides JoB if table games like BJ are not allowed. Slots have 95-96% payout% so I would definately not go for slots.

If only single single VP allowed and JoB not allowed, go for 'All american' or 'Aces and faces' and make the software autoplay.

Remember NEVER to play single line DW on MG that has payout 96%. I you want to be robbed, play slots instead, they are much more fun. I think
MG ruined single line DW so some casinos could allow this game for bonus
purposes and stilll have a huge edge.
I noticed this a while ago... I took the Wizard's DW Optimal Strategy return % table and modified the payouts according to MG's DW game..... and watched that percentage drop from just over 100% to 96ish%, what a bummer.

Here are the T&C for my WR:
Certain games are excluded from those which players are permitted to play for the purpose of meeting their wagering requirements. This is done to avoid any "bonus abuse". Excluded games are:
Jacks or Better Power Poker, Jacks or Better Video Poker, Jacks or Better 10 Play Power Poker, All American Video Poker, All forms of 50 and 100 Play Power Poker, Baccarat, Craps, Roulette and Sic Bo.
Blackjack play is also restricted - but not entirely excluded - for purposes of meeting the wagering requirements. As with other games exclusions, this is due to similar "bonus abuse" problems. Please note that only 20% of the above wagering obligations can be met by playing Blackjack.
Since I only have $150 should I really take the risk of setting up autoplay on BJ for (20% of $2600) = 520 hands @ $1 each? I am sure that if I do I would find a $0 balance before even a third of those hands are over. Thoughts?
 

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SlotsJunkie said:
Here are the T&C for my WR:

Since I only have $150 should I really take the risk of setting up autoplay on BJ for (20% of $2600) = 520 hands @ $1 each? I am sure that if I do I would find a $0 balance before even a third of those hands are over. Thoughts?
I wouldn't bother with cards at all - even the allowed ones like Let it Ride, PaiGow & 3-card are not good at MG's. Stud is possibly the best of the allowed games; I usually find I can turn over quite a lot without huge loss - even with MG's rip-off pay table (1:1 for 2 pair :eek: )
I would stick to the bonus slots like Harveys, Ladies Nite, Tomb Raider (as long as it's not 5c minimum), Haloweenies & Spring Break.
At least then I have a chance of a 'biggie' or two.
Of course there is also a good chance I will bust out with slots - but hey, I'm a gambler! :D
 

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I always play Skull Duggery
I also play this and I seem to get my funds up quite a bit, I also play Bah Bah Blacksheep and have hit the sheep quite a few times on .20 bets and come up from .60 to over $50 many times on both these games...Good luck!
 

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I would say the game I would head to first (but I dont use bonuses on MG) would be Cabin Fever or Munchkins, big payouts arent usually there, but It could keep you playing for a while. Plus I always play these slots with 9 lines its either a great move or a killer. Nothing like seeing 5 bears popup in the 10th line when you play 9. :thumbsup:
 

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I would then go for the single line versions of Double Bonus Poker, they
did not exclude that in the T&C. It has payout 99.1%.

If I really was to play a slot I would definately go for Isis. (And I would play 5 lines with 5 times bet, instead of 25 lines with 1 bet). Total bet of 0.25$ can give huge wins on Isis.

Zoozie
 

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If I have a bonus,I play on casinowar.All casinos count it 100% for wagering requirements.I close my eyes and bet $1 each hand (or $5).After finishing waq. req. (or near to it) I play other games.
 

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Thanks everyone for the great advice! :thumbsup:

I started out with Skull Duggery... after $66.42 of wagering, I am only down by 15, so that's pretty decent.

I'll let you know how it all works out. :D
 

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CasinoForumu said:
If I have a bonus,I play on casinowar.All casinos count it 100% for wagering requirements.....
Not true. I've seen it disallowed at quite a few places.
However, I agree it's virtually as good as blackjack where it is allowed! :thumbsup:
 

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KasinoKing said:
Not true. I've seen it disallowed at quite a few places.
However, I agree it's virtually as good as blackjack where it is allowed! :thumbsup:

Casino War counts 50% at most of the MG casinos I have been playing. BJ and VP only 10%.

If it is allowed, you can't go wrong playing full-pay video poker every bonus. (Unless you have a very small bankroll and would freak out if you busted.)
 

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Oh well

So I went bust in between 12x and 13x of the WR. Managed to squeeze $1,640 in bets out of the $130. I guess that's the whole point of bonuses, to have outrageous WR to ensure that the player's deposit will be lost in its entirety. :rolleyes:

I was having fairly decent luck at breaking even, until I played these:

Isis - Got the feature after 150 spins, for a whopping $13.00; overall return 64%
Harveys - 250 spins and no feature; overall return 60%
International Casino Games - 100 spins, overall return 28.67% can you say shitty?
Thunderstruck - 50 spins, overall return 29.33%
Avalon - 173 spins, no feature, 65% return

What's up with these games lately?? I can understand that for Thunderstruck, my 50 spins was not a very large sample. But 100+ spins on any game ought to have a better payback than 28% to 65%. :mad:
 

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Well well well

Well, I'm happy to say that everything might turn out fairly good after all. After busting out above I deposited a $20 at Crazy Vegas and hit a $66 win on Wasabi San. I hit 4 Spearmasters :)D) creating a 4xWild, 4xPurple Lady, 5xShrimp and a smaller win or two, all from a 45 bet. So I ended up cashing out $75.00 which I'm quite proud of - normally I would just blow it all on some other game. Click here for the screenshot.

Of course this is my first withdrawal so I expect plenty of hassles and several days before it shows up in my NETeller. I have emailed the casino to ask them to flush the 24 hour "grace" period but who knows how long before they will respond.

But anyway..... let me do the math on this:
Last night: $50.00 + 8.9% Instacash fee = $54.45
Today: $20.00
Total spent: $74.45
Cashed out: $75.00
Profit: $0.55

55 profit for 24 hours = 2.29 per hour. If I had been playing at All Slots, you can bet I would have sent them a testimonial saying "Thank You All Slots, Thanks To You I Now Have A Steady Income, You Changed My Life"

:lolup:
 

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Ohhh, those intacash fees eat you up worse than the slots. I would leave money in the Neteller account and only use the maximum there. Nice going though.
 

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NoMouthToScream said:
Ohhh, those intacash fees eat you up worse than the slots. I would leave money in the Neteller account and only use the maximum there. Nice going though.
Thank you. It was actually my first NETeller transaction ever, I just activated my account last night. I chose Instacash because I didn't want to wait until next week before the funds were available. I figured for a $50 purchase, $4.45 isn't too bad. Any amount higher than that, and I can just wait a week.:D
 

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Insta Cash

I don't understand why you are paying insta cash fees. If you use insta cash from your neteller account to deposit then yes you pay fees, but if you use insta cash from within the casino software to deposit there is no insta cash fee. I hope this helps.
 

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Ohhh, those intacash fees eat you up worse than the slots.
I don't understand why you are paying insta cash fees.
Instacash within the casino is totally free people! The casino picks up the tab. Never use the instacash within Neteller for this is the reason you have signed up for the instacash feature. To get around the fees of Neteller.

Just go to the casino, go to neteller, deposit, check the "instacash" feature in the casino, enter the last 4 digits of your bank account, and your money is there instantly! Best thing that was ever offered to a player. Now some casinos (very few) do not have the instacash feature, so when you cash out, (this is the best part, for the funds are there quickly with instacash from most casinos) leave a few dollars in there just for the casinos that don't have this feature to avoid the fee. :D
 

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Instacash within the casino is totally free people! The casino picks up the tab. Never use the instacash within Neteller for this is the reason you have signed up for the instacash feature. To get around the fees of Neteller.

Just go to the casino, go to neteller, deposit, check the "instacash" feature in the casino, enter the last 4 digits of your bank account, and your money is there instantly! Best thing that was ever offered to a player. Now some casinos (very few) do not have the instacash feature, so when you cash out, (this is the best part, for the funds are there quickly with instacash from most casinos) leave a few dollars in there just for the casinos that don't have this feature to avoid the fee. :D

However, some casinos will NOT pick up the Instacash fee, so it "pays" (pun intended) to make doubly sure that the casino you're depositing with does pick it up.
 

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However, some casinos will NOT pick up the Instacash fee, so it "pays" (pun intended) to make doubly sure that the casino you're depositing with does pick it up.


Yes, but it's pretty much black or white...if they don't have instacash listed as an option in the cashier, they won't pick it up...:thumbsup:
 

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Not necessarily ... I know of one major casino out there that mentions Instacash on their deposit page, but does NOT pay the fee.

That's the only thing I'd ask this casino to fix, actually, though I've only used the Instacash feature there once and used it knowing I'd pay the fee.

Says a lot about a place's operation when you can only find one thing to complain about, IMHO. :thumbsup:
 
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