Baptism by Fire Flappy Casino is giving it a go!

[Casinomeister]

So Flappy is giving it a go. They have their introductory thread here:
Flappy Casino - Casinomeister Forum

I have closed that thread and started afresh here - hopefully with more continuing in-depth comments

Flappy Casino is one of the latest Neutral Zone Casino casinos rated here at Casinomeister.

Licensed by Curaçao Master License 8048/JAZ (Antillephone N.V) - and hosting loads of games: Pragmatic Play, Play'n go, Push Gaming, Nolimit City, Microgaming, Relax Gaming, NetEnt, Wazdan, Yggdrasil Gaming, Big Time Gaming (BTG)... , etc.

Their rep is here: Flappy

Please read their review before signing up. Flappy Casino Review

Since they already have some input with that other thread - I've shortened their Baptism by Fire to two weeks.

What say you?

 

[SCATT3R]

If you take a look around on the usual suspects of casino review sites and forums - including this one right here - you'll be absolutely convinced of Flappy's superduperness. The amount of 10/10 ratings and "This is very best gambling site ever i win very much about this site" type of comments from various 1-post users is overwhelming and just speaks for itself: Flappy is such a magnificent casino, they don't even have to bribe people into giving them favorable reviews!

 

[Casinomeister]

If you take a look around on the usual suspects of casino review sites and forums - including this one right here - you'll be absolutely convinced of Flappy's superduperness. The amount of 10/10 ratings and "This is very best gambling site ever i win very much about this site" type of comments from various 1-post users is overwhelming and just speaks for itself: Flappy is such a magnificent casino, they don't even have to bribe people into giving them favorable reviews!

Me thinks you are being a bit unfair here. And to insinuate that they are bribing me to get a score of 7.4 is pretty whacked out.

We had two members praise them earlier elsewhere - and if they were bribed to do that, it was a waste of a bribe

The more information we get - and player responses here, their score can increase (or decrease).

You're an Experienced member here, I thought you could figure that we do things differently here by now.

 

[SCATT3R]

Yours isn't a 10/10 one-liner review out of nowhere like found on numerous sites, so no I wasn't

 

[Casinomeister]

I rarely if ever visit any other sites. Unless I am reviewing something. I really don't care about any other site besides mine

But you have my attention - @Flappy - please DO NOT encourage shilly behavior. Thank you.

 

[satchnz]

Hey @Casinomeister, I think a valuable piece of info for these BOFs would be to state where the casino’s RTPs are set (max across the board or gimped). I realise that RTP is only one factor in determining the attractiveness of a casino, but it’s a fact that can be stated up front.

The BOFs should be used to determine other factors like payout speed, site usability, financial intrusiveness etc.

I raise this as I’m personally not interested in even giving a casino a try if they don’t have max RTP across the board, and I know that others here have similar views.

Just a thought…

 

[L&L-Jan]

Flappie is a popular name for pets in NL, besides my dog this guy had a rabbit named Flappie. He even made a song about Flappie:

 

[Casinomeister]

@Flappy - are you able to list the RTPs, and/or do you have list of top RTPs for your games?

Are your RTPs maxed across the board?

 

[Avernite]

Having a brief look at their T&C's here's the red flags for me:

High wagering requirements for bonuses which is 50x, 40x for free spins.

Capped winnings on bonuses which is $3,000, or $300 for free spins.

Withdrawal limits of $10,000 a month.

To me bonuses should have achievable wagering requirements with no max withdrawal, and withdrawals should have a far greater per month limit. The RTP should be easily displayed also.

 

[Casinomeister]

@Flappy - referring to satchnz - how are yout RTP settings? Are they maxed out or have these been modified for whatever reason? Please let us know.

 

[satchnz]

@Flappy - referring to satchnz - how are yout RTP settings? Are they maxed out or have these been modified for whatever reason? Please let us know.

I assume that the rep’s involvement and responsiveness here on CM is a factor in these BBFs? This question has been unanswered for two weeks now.

 

[Flappy]

Hello Meisters,

I do apologize for our delay here - a rookie mistake, I must admit The truth is, we started gathering from our platform provider the info on RTP, as per avernite's question and meanwhile we dropped the ball in getting back to satchnz.

Let me try and rectify all this today (trying to walk out of fire, without being burnt too much):

1. Bonuses - as to the bonus conditions, there could be different interpretations on how they are calculated. Some of the competitors apply the wagering on the sum of the deposit + bonus and this way the wagering requirements might look smaller. We have decided to take the fairer approach and instead of saying the 100% bonus will have 25x wagering (deposit + bonus) and make a tough math equation for the player, we say the bonus has 50x wagering. It is a regular wagering requirement for the industry while at the same time we are generous with the offers as well so if you get lucky on the games, releasing the bonus should not be challenging. The 40x wagering on the Free Spins winnings is also a industry standard.
   
   Max cap on the winnings is something we have been avoiding but with the extremely volatile games today it is a measure which is being used more and more across the industry. Unfortunately, it is the only way we can continue being generous with the offers and we have tried to find the middle ground where we still give the players extra playing time but at the same time limit the risk in a reasonable frame.
2. RTP settings - we use the default RTP settings with the exception of Push Gaming where we stand at 94% and Hacksaw where we stand at 92%.
3. Withdrawal limits - 10,000 is the entry level, which obviously increases with the player's VIP level. We do plan to review these soon (as traffic and volumes grow).

Again, gentlemen, my apologies for not being quick enough in my responses so far, I do solemnly declare that I will improve (significantly). Pluck my flappy feathers if I don't

Yours,

Flappy

 

[L&L-Jan]

@Flappy your last red tiger and spinomenal game have no thumbs showing

 

[Flappy]

thanks L&L - checking this asap

 

[Flappy]

@Flappy your last red tiger and spinomenal game have no thumbs showing

sorted, thanks for reporting

 

[muziq]

Hello Meisters,

I do apologize for our delay here - a rookie mistake, I must admit The truth is, we started gathering from our platform provider the info on RTP, as per avernite's question and meanwhile we dropped the ball in getting back to satchnz.

Let me try and rectify all this today (trying to walk out of fire, without being burnt too much):

1. Bonuses - as to the bonus conditions, there could be different interpretations on how they are calculated. Some of the competitors apply the wagering on the sum of the deposit + bonus and this way the wagering requirements might look smaller. We have decided to take the fairer approach and instead of saying the 100% bonus will have 25x wagering (deposit + bonus) and make a tough math equation for the player, we say the bonus has 50x wagering. It is a regular wagering requirement for the industry while at the same time we are generous with the offers as well so if you get lucky on the games, releasing the bonus should not be challenging. The 40x wagering on the Free Spins winnings is also a industry standard.
   
   Max cap on the winnings is something we have been avoiding but with the extremely volatile games today it is a measure which is being used more and more across the industry. Unfortunately, it is the only way we can continue being generous with the offers and we have tried to find the middle ground where we still give the players extra playing time but at the same time limit the risk in a reasonable frame.
2. RTP settings - we use the default RTP settings with the exception of Push Gaming where we stand at 94% and Hacksaw where we stand at 92%.
3. Withdrawal limits - 10,000 is the entry level, which obviously increases with the player's VIP level. We do plan to review these soon (as traffic and volumes grow).

Again, gentlemen, my apologies for not being quick enough in my responses so far, I do solemnly declare that I will improve (significantly). Pluck my flappy feathers if I don't

Yours,

Flappy

what is the cap of the bonus win?
and by default RTO did you mean the MAX rtp by the provider?

 

[Flappy]

Good morning, muziq,

Each bonus comes with different max cap which is included in the individual terms for the respective promotion. For example the Welcome Package has a max cap at €3,000. The winnings from Free Spins are treated separately and they are limited at €300 in the Welcome Package.

With regards to RTPs - indeed, the default RTP of the providers is the max one.

Wishing everyone a very Flappy Xmas!

 

[casinome]

Who are flappy’s sister sites? If they are related to a few casinos that I think they might be I wouldn’t go anywhere near these guys

 

[Guntis]

wintopia.com. But i would suggest properly reviewing their bonus terms in case you're going to claim one. I saw there is a bonus with a €5,000 cashout cap which they named the 'High Roller Welcome Bonus'

 

[casinome]

wintopia.com

Iwild
Spinsbro
Winlegends
Cosmic
Icebet

As well?

 

[Guntis]

These are likely from the Altacore N.V. group, the same as Flappy, but are separate businesses.

 

[casinome]

These are likely from the Altacore N.V. group, the same as Flappy, but are separate businesses.

Ok… I don’t want to say anything negative against flappy then as I cant say I had a negative experience (other than losing money but them the breaks)… I have had major issues with two of those casinos though.. one being Wintopia. Withdrawals are a nightmare as they keep cancelling them even though I am verified and have had 1 go through… the customer service may have been the rudest I have seen in 20 plus years of playing…

 

[Guntis]

Ok… I don’t want to say anything negative against flappy then as I cant say I had a negative experience (other than losing money but them the breaks)… I have had major issues with two of those casinos though.. one being Wintopia. Withdrawals are a nightmare as they keep cancelling them even though I am verified and have had 1 go through… the customer service may have been the rudest I have seen in 20 plus years of playing…

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[pekka55]

wintopia.com. But i would suggest properly reviewing their bonus terms in case you're going to claim one. I saw there is a bonus with a €5,000 cashout cap which they named the 'High Roller Welcome Bonus'

Well, that's certainly some high roller shit right there. No high roller will ever play with bonuses that are capped. There's no point.