Begging to be excluded

I have been gambling for 25 years plus so i have been here before.

I always tell my daughters when I’ve had a lapse. I’m always honest and so I won’t have access to money or bank cards for 2 months now!

I have a plan in place my adult daughter is going has taken my bank card... when ever I relapse which may be once a year she has all control over the money and gives me a small amount each day... it works well for me. I just relapse every so often. I will be signed up to gamban this week so online gambling will be no more.

I’ve been on the gambling commission website and it says that after self Exclustion the operator must give the customer all the money that’s in the account. So I’m hopeful. This is just a relapse and when I relapse I go see my counsellor and put a plan in place. I tend to gamble when life is overwhelming and I’ve just gone through something awful and tbh gambling has always been a distraction. I won’t be able to gamble at all as I’m excluded from all bookies and arcades in the whole of london.
 
25 years is a real long time to be addicted to something, especially something that impacts everyone around you ( kids). I'm not judging you, but as a mother of an adult daughter who just became an addict last year. I have seen what lengths she will go to to get her fix, and she is only a year in. Maybe not getting your money would be a good thing. For one casino you excluded yourself from, there are hundreds more you haven't. I'm sure in the 25 years, you have taught yourself tons of resourcing skills. And will find money to feed your kids etc, instead of gambling. I hope the best for you, and you can eventually get this monkey off your back. At some point enough will be enough. Remove ALL temptations, even if it means someone else looking after your money for a while. Good luck!

I’ve always paid my bills and fed my kids before gambling! I was a single parent with no family so had to relie on myself. I would gamble once that was done which was still wrong I know.
 
I have been gambling for 25 years plus so i have been here before.

I always tell my daughters when I’ve had a lapse. I’m always honest and so I won’t have access to money or bank cards for 2 months now!

I have a plan in place my adult daughter is going has taken my bank card... when ever I relapse which may be once a year she has all control over the money and gives me a small amount each day... it works well for me. I just relapse every so often. I will be signed up to gamban this week so online gambling will be no more.

I’ve been on the gambling commission website and it says that after self Exclustion the operator must give the customer all the money that’s in the account. So I’m hopeful. This is just a relapse and when I relapse I go see my counsellor and put a plan in place. I tend to gamble when life is overwhelming and I’ve just gone through something awful and tbh gambling has always been a distraction. I won’t be able to gamble at all as I’m excluded from all bookies and arcades in the whole of london.
Life sucks at times. I know I have seen it all, and have been some horrific times this last year. Time to teach yourself some new coping skills :)
 
I am guessing that with "Gamban" the OP means "Gamstop"? Gamban is already available for purchase?
 
Really that ratty odour may just be around you... I gambled from 1am until 8am today... I have had a problem for almost 25 years... I thought I’d excluded for 1 week, let’s be clear don’t judge me!

I would beg to differ. I've seen your posting history. For someone who claims to be "desperate to stop", you seem all too willing to transfer the burden of responsibility for your own actions to the casinos, instead of taking responsibility yourself.
Throw in the fact that you seem to have created quite a lot of accounts at sister sites of casinos that you have already SE'd from and I would say I am perfectly entitled to view you with a little bit of suspicion. But hey, if you want to keep kidding yourself, that's your lookout. Eventually though, you are going to have to remove your head from the sand.

I have taken medication from the national problem gambling clinic in london...that had bad side effects that’s how desperate I am to stop for good!

Clearly not desperate enough. You were given two pieces of advice within threads that you participated in last year...

Linked casinos

Self exclusion checks

This thread proves that you ignored both pieces of advice. So again, I have to question your sincerity.

So why aren't you in the Quit Gambling section already? Hmm? Didn't want it badly enough, I guess.

I have tried over the years to stop and when things are shit in life sometimes I have a relapse... that’s how much I want to stop. I made this post so that people realised how hard it was for me to get them to exclude my account.

Look, I understand that when life is shit you want to "get away from it all", even if only for a brief time. I've been there, done that, worn the T-shirt etc. etc.
But seeking solace in gambling, something that has consistently brought you problems and been a rope around your neck for 25 years is NOT the answer.
Gambling is NEVER going to be the thing that makes your life better or solve all your life problems.
Another losing gambling session is just going to add to your woes, not relieve you of them.
And even a winning session won't really help you in the long run, because it merely provides you with the means to gamble again sooner, rather than later.

You sound to me to be one of the people who tell addicts just stop like it’s giving up chocolate.

Oh really? How little do you know. I've BEEN a gambling addict myself, and for lengthy chunks of my adult life at that.
I know damn well it's not something that can be "just switched off", never to return.
It's ALWAYS there, looming large over your shoulder. Every god damn day is a battle, because it never, ever truly leaves you.
I'll say it again, I really do not understand your actions with regard to the cooling off period.
It's almost like you're looking for an "excuse" to gamble again, when you should really be looking for an excuse NOT to gamble.

And by the way, I have found that chocolate is actually bloody difficult to give up. Harder than gambling and smoking to be honest.

I have done the trial for the new online gamban website and will be told before it goes live so I can be one of the first to join!

Well I hope it works out for you. And I mean that sincerely. Because you have a hell of a lot of travelling to do before you get to the other side.

If it makes you feel better to put me down go ahead! I have proof of everything I’ve said!

1. I did not put you down. I merely questioned your decision making, some of which does not add up.
2. If you think I am getting any "pleasure" out of this, you are way off. You need help and a bloody big shitload of it at that.
And unfortunately, I get the feeling you don't want it badly enough, given some of your previous actions (and inactions, too). I genuinely hope I am wrong.

Oh by the way, I should mention one other thing. You are only allowed one CM account. Just saying....

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/members/leigh12345.40314/

If you're going to create a second CM account, at least use some imagination. ;)
 
I would beg to differ. I've seen your posting history. For someone who claims to be "desperate to stop", you seem all too willing to transfer the burden of responsibility for your own actions to the casinos, instead of taking responsibility yourself.
Throw in the fact that you seem to have created quite a lot of accounts at sister sites of casinos that you have already SE'd from and I would say I am perfectly entitled to view you with a little bit of suspicion. But hey, if you want to keep kidding yourself, that's your lookout. Eventually though, you are going to have to remove your head from the sand.



Clearly not desperate enough. You were given two pieces of advice within threads that you participated in last year...

Linked casinos

Self exclusion checks

This thread proves that you ignored both pieces of advice. So again, I have to question your sincerity.

So why aren't you in the Quit Gambling section already? Hmm? Didn't want it badly enough, I guess.



Look, I understand that when life is shit you want to "get away from it all", even if only for a brief time. I've been there, done that, worn the T-shirt etc. etc.
But seeking solace in gambling, something that has consistently brought you problems and been a rope around your neck for 25 years is NOT the answer.
Gambling is NEVER going to be the thing that makes your life better or solve all your life problems.
Another losing gambling session is just going to add to your woes, not relieve you of them.
And even a winning session won't really help you in the long run, because it merely provides you with the means to gamble again sooner, rather than later.



Oh really? How little do you know. I've BEEN a gambling addict myself, and for lengthy chunks of my adult life at that.
I know damn well it's not something that can be "just switched off", never to return.
It's ALWAYS there, looming large over your shoulder. Every god damn day is a battle, because it never, ever truly leaves you.
I'll say it again, I really do not understand your actions with regard to the cooling off period.
It's almost like you're looking for an "excuse" to gamble again, when you should really be looking for an excuse NOT to gamble.

And by the way, I have found that chocolate is actually bloody difficult to give up. Harder than gambling and smoking to be honest.



Well I hope it works out for you. And I mean that sincerely. Because you have a hell of a lot of travelling to do before you get to the other side.



1. I did not put you down. I merely questioned your decision making, some of which does not add up.
2. If you think I am getting any "pleasure" out of this, you are way off. You need help and a bloody big shitload of it at that.
And unfortunately, I get the feeling you don't want it badly enough, given some of your previous actions (and inactions, too). I genuinely hope I am wrong.

Oh by the way, I should mention one other thing. You are only allowed one CM account. Just saying....

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/members/leigh12345.40314/

If you're going to create a second CM account, at least use some imagination. ;)
She gave her real name, so Im sure any casino that has seen this post will flag her. A good thing.
 
Mcgameboy you seem a desperately sad and angry person on here at times with little compassion for others. I also think you got banned just recently if my memory is correct.

Instead of getting not out of picking holes in her story why not let her just share her feelings without the need to hassled by you.
 
Mcgameboy you seem a desperately sad and angry person on here at times with little compassion for others. I also think you got banned just recently if my memory is correct.

Instead of getting not out of picking holes in her story why not let her just share her feelings without the need to hassled by you.

That only tells us how little you know about the people in here and about what a gambling addiction really is about.

He has never been banned and are one of the smartest guy in here. Be happy instead that you are allowed to read what he say.
Read and learn is my advice to you nutnut :)
 
I only opted to give the op what little advice I had. Frankly, what mcgameboy did was say things people need to hear - whether you think it was tough, or tough love - it's pretty solid advice for anyone reading the thread.
 
McGameboy is stating fact, and giving extremely good insight into a addicted gamblers mind, particularly the looking for an excuse to gamble part, anyone who has struggled in the past knows a compulsive gambler searches for an excuse everyday, MGB has hit the nail on the head, and why shouldn’t he point out the previous threads the OP has opened up???
 
Sadly, the worst thing that could have happened to this person is that she won. If she can win over 2k well then why cant it happen again? One lost deposit turns into 5. A small cashout gives hope again followed by more losses. Until once again, rock bottom is hit. I highly suggest you take this money and never play again. You will lose it if you continue and more. That doesnt include any of the mental stress you will suffer during.

Dont be offended by the tough responses you got here. Instead appreciate people cared enough to respond to you and give you any type of advice.

Self exclude. Move to the non gambling part of the forum. Spend your winnings on something nice and leave feeling a winner.


UKGC and the rest could help by following the lead of OLG landbased casinos where if you self exclude from one of their properties, you exclude yourself from them all for a nice lengthy period of time. All the man hours demanded of support to request bank statement and finger prints could be better put to use having a database available of excluded players. It wouldnt fix the problem but it would be a great start to deterring problem gamblers the option to sign up to one of their other 5000 licensed casinos.
 
That only tells us how little you know about the people in here and about what a gambling addiction really is about.

He has never been banned and are one of the smartest guy in here. Be happy instead that you are allowed to read what he say.
Read and learn is my advice to you nutnut :)

Happy I'm allowed to read? Amusing

I don't need to read or learn anything off him. I don't have a gambling problem, so nothing to learn.

By his own post he said he has had problems with addiction in the past and is still gambling, so judging this poor womans situation is comical at best.
 
Happy I'm allowed to read? Amusing

I don't need to read or learn anything off him. I don't have a gambling problem, so nothing to learn.

By his own post he said he has had problems with addiction in the past and is still gambling, so judging this poor womans situation is comical at best.

To be able to help or give advice to people then knowledge is a must to have. If someone with knowledge also have experience of their own the more valuable are their advices.

You still have a lot to learn nutnut. If you don't realize that and start to be a little humble then I'm sad for your sake.
You as anyone else here have the right to have opinions, but I advice you to not attack those who knows what they are talking about until you learn a bit more on the subject.
 
Last thing a serious problem gambler needs is to be told everything is going to be ok, a back rub and a bubble bath drawn for them. Thats not knocking the people that are polite about it but more or less supporting the people who take a tough stance on it.

People need to understand some warning signs when a person is not committed to the idea of exclusion. The first red flag is her claiming to be in programs but not even in the non gambling section of the forum. Second is the victim card where she mentions being a single mother raising 2 daughters, her lashing out at anyone who doesnt comfort her and blaming a chat rep demanding action and answers about her cashout.
 
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Mcgameboy you seem a desperately sad and angry person on here at times with little compassion for others. I also think you got banned just recently if my memory is correct.

Instead of getting not out of picking holes in her story why not let her just share her feelings without the need to hassled by you.

Oh dear nutnut. You scored quite an own goal there. Not only have I never been banned, I've never even received a warning or an infraction.
I guess (actually, I know) your memory isn't as correct as you "think" it is. :rolleyes:

And just for the record, I really do not give a damn what you think. I never have done, mainly because of the one time I saw you declare on this forum that it is OK for players to try to run SE scams. That was all I ever needed to know about you. From that day onwards, I have never taken a word you have said seriously.
I might be blunt and also harsh at times, but at least I can say that I am honest and that I have a bit of integrity. So go ahead and have the most negative opinion you can possibly have of me. I do not care. You can pass judgement on me all you like, but I am not going to respect the opinion of someone who once stated that player fraud is something to be condoned and applauded. Your opinion of me is mere water off my duck's back.

And also for the record, I HAVE on many occasions been sympathetic towards members on this forum, whether it is because of having problems controlling their gambling or simply just going through an extended losing streak. I've been there and it's not fun. Funny how you never seemed to notice/highlight any of THOSE posts, isn't it?
But then again, I have discovered more than once that you are all too keen to sweep "mere facts" under the carpet, lest they get in the way of any agenda you might like to push, so I can't say I'm surprised. You should get a job as a cherry picker, you'd be awesome at it.

Happy I'm allowed to read? Amusing

The funny thing is I had those very same sentiments when I read your woefully inadequate and futile attempt to smear me by suggesting I was a recently banned user. Fortunately, quite a few people here saw right through your attempt to pull the wool over their eyes for the sheer BS dickmove that it was and your attempt died colossally on its arse as a result. Better luck next time, eh young chap? Better still, don't bring luck into it and actually get your facts right from the outset, that way you won't risk getting found out as a blatant liar and consequently, making a complete dick out of yourself in the process.

I don't need to read or learn anything off him. I don't have a gambling problem, so nothing to learn.

1. I wasn't attempting to teach you anything in the first place. Why would I waste my time and effort teaching a self-declared know it all? :rolleyes:
2. You don't need to learn anything from me, but you do need to learn the difference between facts and lies. And you could do with brushing up on your memory skills. They seem to be somewhat lacking(see above).
3. I've seen your posting history in the Bonanza thread. You must hold the world record for most declarations that you will never play Bonanza again, only to return to the game within hours, let alone the next day. It's actually become quite the running joke now. I should thank you actually, because as long as you continue to post in that thread, I'll never have any difficulty going for a piss :thumbsup:
4. Why did you read my post then, if you didn't need to?
5. Is your favourite song "I'm The Man" by the Killers?

By his own post he said he has had problems with addiction in the past and is still gambling, so judging this poor womans situation is comical at best.

Yes, I DID say I was a problem gambler...but that was when I was in my 20s. That is in the very distant past, because I am in my mid-40s now.
Back then, I gambled BEYOND my means until I finally woke up, smelt the coffee and gave it up in my early 30s.
And yeah, I have to admit that I did get the gambling bug back again about 10 years later. But now I gamble KNOWING two very important things.
1. what my limits are and 2. how to stay well within them. Those are the key differences between the gambler that was me 20 years ago and the gambler that is me today. I am 20 years older and 20 years wiser.

My past mistakes taught me some very harsh lessons, but I chose to learn from those mistakes, instead of repeating them.
And when I did give up gambling the first time round, I was FULLY committed to it, just like I was when I was successful in giving up smoking.
No half-arsed measures taken (that was the actual point of my post in the first place, something which you totally failed to grasp - so much for your self-declared intellectual superiority to us mere dumb fuckwits eh?).

So yeah, having a very clear and vivid memory of my past experiences as a problem gambler does give me a pretty good grasp of what problem gambling is, how a problem gambler thinks and what it can do to a person. Not only the financial costs, but also the psychological and emotional costs. It is absolutely no laughing matter. Comical? Nah, I don't think so.

Was I harsh towards Leigh? Yes, I was. Was I blunt? Yes, I was. But I won't ever apologise for it. I would much rather be found guilty of bluntly telling someone what they NEED to hear (the cold, harsh truth) instead of being found guilty of sugarcoating a very serious problem and telling someone what they want to hear.

Put it this way, if I was made to choose between giving someone some tough love (and possibly saving them) or giving them kindness (and possibly killing them),
then I'm taking the tough love option every single time. If you have a problem with that, je ne suis bovvered pas.

Now I have wasted enough time on you. Have a nice day now, which will no doubt include another declaration that you are never playing Bonanza ever again and the inevitable U-turn two hours later. :)
 
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Oh dear nutnut. You scored quite an own goal there. Not only have I never been banned, I've never even received a warning or an infraction.
I guess (actually, I know) your memory isn't as correct as you "think" it is. :rolleyes:

And just for the record, I really do not give a damn what you think. I never have done, mainly because of the one time I saw you declare on this forum that it is OK for players to try to run SE scams. That was all I ever needed to know about you. From that day onwards, I have never taken a word you have said seriously.
I might be blunt and also harsh at times, but at least I can say that I am honest and that I have a bit of integrity. So go ahead and have the most negative opinion you can possibly have of me. I do not care. You can pass judgement on me all you like, but I am not going to respect the opinion of someone who once stated that player fraud is something to be condoned and applauded. Your opinion of me is mere water off my duck's back.

And also for the record, I HAVE on many occasions been sympathetic towards members on this forum, whether it is because of having problems controlling their gambling or simply just going through an extended losing streak. I've been there and it's not fun. Funny how you never seemed to notice/highlight any of THOSE posts, isn't it?
But then again, I have discovered more than once that you are all too keen to sweep "mere facts" under the carpet, lest they get in the way of any agenda you might like to push, so I can't say I'm surprised. You should get a job as a cherry picker, you'd be awesome at it.



The funny thing is I had those very same sentiments when I read your woefully inadequate and futile attempt to smear me by suggesting I was a recently banned user. Fortunately, quite a few people here saw right through your attempt to pull the wool over their eyes for the sheer BS dickmove that it was and your attempt died colossally on its arse as a result. Better luck next time, eh young chap? Better still, don't bring luck into it and actually get your facts right from the outset, that way you won't risk getting found out as a blatant liar and consequently, making a complete dick out of yourself in the process.



1. I wasn't attempting to teach you anything in the first place. Why would I waste my time and effort teaching a self-declared know it all? :rolleyes:
2. You don't need to learn anything from me, but you do need to learn the difference between facts and lies. And you could do with brushing up on your memory skills. They seem to be somewhat lacking(see above).
3. I've seen your posting history in the Bonanza thread. You must hold the world record for most declarations that you will never play Bonanza again, only to return to the game within hours, let alone the next day. It's actually become quite the running joke now. I should thank you actually, because as long as you continue to post in that thread, I'll never have any difficulty going for a piss :thumbsup:
4. Why did you read my post then, if you didn't need to?
5. Is your favourite song "I'm The Man" by the Killers?



Yes, I DID say I was a problem gambler...but that was when I was in my 20s. That is in the very distant past, because I am in my mid-40s now.
Back then, I gambled BEYOND my means until I finally woke up, smelt the coffee and gave it up in my early 30s.
And yeah, I have to admit that I did get the gambling bug back again about 10 years later. But now I gamble KNOWING two very important things.
1. what my limits are and 2. how to stay well within them. Those are the key differences between the gambler that was me 20 years ago and the gambler that is me today. I am 20 years older and 20 years wiser.

My past mistakes taught me some very harsh lessons, but I chose to learn from those mistakes, instead of repeating them.
And when I did give up gambling the first time round, I was FULLY committed to it, just like I was when I was successful in giving up smoking.
No half-arsed measures taken (that was the actual point of my post in the first place, something which you totally failed to grasp - so much for your self-declared intellectual superiority to us mere dumb fuckwits eh?).

So yeah, having a very clear and vivid memory of my past experiences as a problem gambler does give me a pretty good grasp of what problem gambling is, how a problem gambler thinks and what it can do to a person. Not only the financial costs, but also the psychological and emotional costs. It is absolutely no laughing matter. Comical? Nah, I don't think so.

Was I harsh towards Leigh? Yes, I was. Was I blunt? Yes, I was. But I won't ever apologise for it. I would be much rather found guilty of bluntly telling someone what they NEED to hear (the cold, harsh truth) instead of being found guilty of sugarcoating a very serious problem and telling someone what they want to hear.

Put it this way, if I was made to choose between giving someone some tough love (and possibly saving them) or giving them kindness (and possibly killing them),
then I'm taking the tough love option every single time. If you have a problem with that, je ne suis bovvered pas.

Now I have wasted enough time on you. Have a nice day now, which will no doubt include another declaration that you are never playing Bonanza ever again and the inevitable U-turn two hours later. :)
Lol. Can I borrow you. I need those skills. I'm an easy pushover.
 
I can see how this will end. Quite for a couple of days when OP is paid presumably, most played back somewhere else afterwards. Then back to square one...

Please let me be wrong.
 

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