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Does this mean that there is no point playing the older games that are getting less and less attention from players ?
I dont get this. I play an older game when looking to save a balance thats been trampled by the more "Customer Favourites" "HOT" "New" IE much more played games.
This weekend i got absolutely trashed by IR "As Usual". Its a very popular game but my RTP was disgusting "Again". I tried it at differing casino's and in every case the RTP was dire. Hardly any scatters, 2 wild desires that paid zip. First was just like in the "Videos that suck" thread, i think it was Jono. Reels 1 4 & 5. 3 wild 0 pay feature. Second one paid lowest posible pay. 1/2 times bet.
I go play some older less fancied games. I get features, nice little hits, balance savers. But these are games that are lost in the lists, Not in the "HOT" "Favourite" section. The games would be played by very few people compaired to the amount playing IR for example.
I dont Get it!
Ok the game has no memory ? But i am damn sure that the "Central Nerve System" IE Server Database, MG database, NE database or something DOES have a memory.
Also if these things are truly random, Why like dunnover said on his Bonanza vid, Why do i never see a feature or decent pay in the first 20, 30 or even 50 spins & i mean playing on any "Popular" game like IR. If they are random, Why does it nearly always take hundreds if not thousands of spins to land a feature or sensible win. Ok i admit that i very rarely see something ok'ish before i have zero'd my balance and redopisted but it is majorly overshadowed by the amount of times that i have quite literally spun thousands of times and seen pretty much nothing. Random ? Where are my "Random" early features or decent wins ?
Sorry, i do not believe that a customers account gets a "Truly" random RTP
I believe that the "Game Software Provider" only has to give a "Players Account" 67% or whatever the law states in returns and that the return can be fixed to pay when the "Central Nervous System" wants this to happen, Or needs it to happen because you have already lost way too much and recieved way too little back.
I also think that the "Error" codes, The "Forced" disconnections, The "Game Not Available" "Your Session Could Not Be Verified" ETC ETC happens when the "Central Nerve System" is switching your account from a fair paying server to a server that is set to pay much much less or vice versa. IE the accounts RTP is being manipulated.
I have noticed that the graphics on games are different after some disconnects. IR for example looks darker and the game seems ever so slightly less crisp. Also my sound card starts playing up, The sound starts to distort, I am sure this is something to do with "Dodgy" low RTP forcing scripts because it always happens on low paying sessions.
Lag.
If all the above wasnt enough. We have lag. It used to be that you would get lag on losing spins. Now we have lag before a paying spin.
Could this be because a win that was generated by the RNG and supposed to be going onto your account is then diverted away somewhere else.
If your account has already recieved its 67% that month/week/day then those wins that were destined for your account could easily be diverted elsewhere to top up someone elses account to keep it in line with lawfull RTP. With the modern tech this would be very very easy to do.
67% is just an example figure.
Why when i am losing badly does my CPU start using 100% ?
This never used to happen a few years back.
Are you guys trying to break my PC ? Is it just more "Dodgy" scripting that is trying bend things that shouldnt really be bent ? Hence the 100% CPU usage.
It certainly feels like it.
The industry is making me ask lots of questions these days. A very simple one is, Why can the providers/casino's not give the customer a seamless playing experience. This is 2017 and the games play worse than they did when Windows Casino first opend to the public many many years ago. And back then we played with no broadband and poor graphic cards and less ram. Even MG casinos back then played much more smoothly, Even with a 64mb graphic card and 1.6 celeron cpu. Ok you will say graphics are better and you need more ram , better graphic cards etc, But the games that have been around for years and years and years......play like crap TODAY. They played fine on a 2mb line,64mb card,1.6 CPU yet they can not give a smooth playing experience with equipment made in 2017. What is all that about ?
I got a lot more questions but i will save the for another time. I got a tin hat to polish at the mo.
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Hey nojoke
I think you need an entire tin foil suit - let alone a hat. I sit in front of games all day, working with mathematicians to get the maths right for the games i'm doing. And i can guarantee you sometimes i sit there saying "Where have the wins gone? There is no way this is a 95% version" etc. etc.
The simple fact is that random profiles do random stuff... sometimes it's good and sometimes it's bad.
RE: Bonanza - that feature is probably no better than a 1 in 500 hit rate - it's probably even higher than that. This means that, on average, to get it in the first 20 spins you would have to have 25 sessions of 20 spins.
It's human nature to look for patterns and reasons when things are going well - more so than when they go right. I guarantee you've had a feature on most of the games you've played in the first 10 spins at some point, but you don't remember that because it's not annoying, and there is nothing to complain about...
So you put a line in my quote (Lots OF Tin Foil Hat Stuff) You added that. Thanks. Was that a deflection tactic i saw there ?
Then kinda answer a question that is unqoated. Hmm.
I can garuntee that after 25 sessions of 20 spins that the probability of hitting a feature on Bonanza is super slim.
So
What about the 100% cpu usage durring sessions with dire RTP. ?
What about the "Error" codes and "Forced" disconnects that make the player log out and back in again. ?
What about the scripts making my sound card distort durring dire RTP sessions?
Why do some games look different after disconnects ?
And what about that LAG. What is causing that ?
Whenever i talk to CS they have the cheek to try and convince me that "Its your PC" or "Its your broadband, Everything fine here" and NO it is not my broadband or PC.
Why is the gaming experience so bad in 2017 ?
Do we have more lag to come , Will we get even more errors and disconnects ?
For sure.
Yeah yeah, im a nut, tin foil hatter etc etc, no need to answer important questions to tin hat nutters eh.
So you put a line in my quote (Lots OF Tin Foil Hat Stuff) You added that. Thanks. Was that a deflection tactic i saw there ?
Then kinda answer a question that is unqoated. Hmm.
I can garuntee that after 25 sessions of 20 spins that the probability of hitting a feature on Bonanza is super slim.
So
What about the 100% cpu usage durring sessions with dire RTP. ?
What about the "Error" codes and "Forced" disconnects that make the player log out and back in again. ?
What about the scripts making my sound card distort durring dire RTP sessions?
Why do some games look different after disconnects ?
And what about that LAG. What is causing that ?
Whenever i talk to CS they have the cheek to try and convince me that "Its your PC" or "Its your broadband, Everything fine here" and NO it is not my broadband or PC.
Why is the gaming experience so bad in 2017 ?
Do we have more lag to come , Will we get even more errors and disconnects ?
For sure.
Yeah yeah, im a nut, tin foil hatter etc etc, no need to answer important questions to tin hat nutters eh.
I don't experience what you're experiencing. Yes, I do get occasional disconnects but as to the games looking different, CPU going up to 100% during a particular bad session on the slots or interfering with the sound card - not happening to me.
"I don't experience what you're experiencing. Yes, I do get occasional disconnects but as to the games looking different, CPU going up to 100% during a particular bad session on the slots or interfering with the sound card - not happening to me."
But many DO.
Do you actualy look and see what your cpu is doing while playing ?
I expect that most would not.
I play with Task Manager on screen. It covers the last reel so i dont have to watch that 3rd scatter not come in.
I monitor what resources are being used and by what process.
I see little processes pop up as a little win shows up, i see process begin as the RTP drops and then they dissapear.
The sessions are interjected with processes that start and stop durring game play.
I call them the "Tweaking RTP Scrpts" and they are there, Just play with TM open and you will see them.
But many DO.
Do you actualy look and see what your cpu is doing while playing ?
I expect that most would not.
I play with Task Manager on screen. It covers the last reel so i dont have to watch that 3rd scatter not come in.
I monitor what resources are being used and by what process.
I see little processes pop up as a little win shows up, i see process begin as the RTP drops and then they dissapear.
The sessions are interjected with processes that start and stop durring game play.
I call them the "Tweaking RTP Scrpts" and they are there, Just play with TM open and you will see them.
"Can't be that many because you're the only one that has ever mentioned it from reading this forum for a few years now."
There cant be many that watch what their system is doing then. I mean who would bother to check, Its a bit techy isnt it.
I suspect that many players would have no idea what TM is or does anyway, Let alone be interested in what the CPU is doing , Even if they know what a CPU is.
I think a few more will check now.
There cant be many that watch what their system is doing then. I mean who would bother to check, Its a bit techy isnt it.
I suspect that many players would have no idea what TM is or does anyway, Let alone be interested in what the CPU is doing , Even if they know what a CPU is.
I think a few more will check now.
So you put a line in my quote (Lots OF Tin Foil Hat Stuff) You added that. Thanks. Was that a deflection tactic i saw there ?
Then kinda answer a question that is unqoated. Hmm.
I can garuntee that after 25 sessions of 20 spins that the probability of hitting a feature on Bonanza is super slim.
So
What about the 100% cpu usage durring sessions with dire RTP. ?
What about the "Error" codes and "Forced" disconnects that make the player log out and back in again. ?
What about the scripts making my sound card distort durring dire RTP sessions?
Why do some games look different after disconnects ?
And what about that LAG. What is causing that ?
Whenever i talk to CS they have the cheek to try and convince me that "Its your PC" or "Its your broadband, Everything fine here" and NO it is not my broadband or PC.
Why is the gaming experience so bad in 2017 ?
Do we have more lag to come , Will we get even more errors and disconnects ?
For sure.
Yeah yeah, im a nut, tin foil hatter etc etc, no need to answer important questions to tin hat nutters eh.
I agree its sometimes hard to believe in this randomness. Even more when i am on a winning strike. It sometimes feels like i do a deposit and its predertermind i will win lets say up to 200euro and then it goes down.
People here often say things like :'when the slot is hot.'
Does in fact mean nothing more then when i have a lot of luck!?!
I am tech savvy enough to know that a slot manufacturer does not have to do the things that you describe to let you lose money. A losing spin or a winning spin take the same effort to generate. It doesn't need anything extra to generate a losing spin.
Are you saying that when on abad streak your pc has to work harder ?
Or are you just taking the P.
Its difficult to tell with you.
My PC labours durring bad sessions, Glitchy graphics, sound, lag etc.
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So you put a line in my quote (Lots OF Tin Foil Hat Stuff) You added that. Thanks. Was that a deflection tactic i saw there ?
Then kinda answer a question that is unqoated. Hmm.
I can garuntee that after 25 sessions of 20 spins that the probability of hitting a feature on Bonanza is super slim.
So
What about the 100% cpu usage durring sessions with dire RTP. ?
What about the "Error" codes and "Forced" disconnects that make the player log out and back in again. ?
What about the scripts making my sound card distort durring dire RTP sessions?
Why do some games look different after disconnects ?
And what about that LAG. What is causing that ?
Whenever i talk to CS they have the cheek to try and convince me that "Its your PC" or "Its your broadband, Everything fine here" and NO it is not my broadband or PC.
Why is the gaming experience so bad in 2017 ?
Do we have more lag to come , Will we get even more errors and disconnects ?
For sure.
Yeah yeah, im a nut, tin foil hatter etc etc, no need to answer important questions to tin hat nutters eh.
Hey nojoke
It was an attempt to lighten the mood through humour - it obviously failed....
Anyway, if you don't want to believe me that's fine, i can't make you - i can only tell you what i know through experience of working in the industry for 18 years... if you think i'm lying, then by all means just continue to believe what you want to...
However, to answer your questions (with a summary at the bottom)...
What about the 100% cpu usage durring sessions with dire RTP. ?
I can't explain why your computer does this, but it has nothing to do with the RTP of the game, or whether your luck is up or down
What about the "Error" codes and "Forced" disconnects that make the player log out and back in again. ?
Error codes and forced disconnects are common on web based games - they normally occur when a server is overloaded (maybe too many concurrent players) and another node has not become available - although with most providers, this is a rare occurence nowadays.
What about the scripts making my sound card distort durring dire RTP sessions?
What scripts? When you download (play) a game, we try and detect what hardware you are running in order to either download hi-res or lo-res packages - this can include different sounds and graphics packages. If this is detected incorrectly, it's possible you are downloading a hi-res package and your computer can't handle it - although this is only ever really a problem on a phone and not a desktop
Why do some games look different after disconnects ?
For the reason i've just explained above
And what about that LAG. What is causing that ?
Whenever i talk to CS they have the cheek to try and convince me that "Its your PC" or "Its your broadband, Everything fine here" and NO it is not my broadband or PC.
Lag, in any game (i get it when playing on PS Now too) can be caused by all sorts of issues - at your end, at the casino, at the game provider - all sorts of reasons. Quite why you would think lag affected the outcome of the game is beyond me
Why is the gaming experience so bad in 2017 ?
Do we have more lag to come , Will we get even more errors and disconnects ?
Games are becoming more complex, and providers are pushing the boundaries of HTML (which is not a good as flash currently) and not every provider is as good at HTML5 as others.
To put it in simple terms:
1. I don't know why you are playing with Task Manager open, unless you are somehow trying to prove that performance = RTP, which is one of the more far-fetched ideas i've read on this forum.
2. All decisions as to the outcome of the spin are taken on the game server, probably located in Malta or Gibraltar, and certainly not on your PC. Therefore the performance of your machine does not, and can not, have any impact on the outcome of your spin, which is taken on a remote server. This server has NO IDEA whether you're running the game on a Dell Laptop, a HP laptop, an Alienware laptop or a can of baked beans - it simply gets a spin request, processes it, and sends the result back to your GUI, which displays it.
You are free of course to have as many conspiracy theories as you want, but everything you've said so far is far from correct. As interlog says (and as i have also mentioned) the casino gets a proportion of your money every time you press spin - they don't need to, nor should any reputable casino want to, fix any software to get more.
Think of all the people, like me, who have worked in this industry - i guarantee you there are a lot of people who have left companies on bad terms, and yet not one of them has ever come out and whistleblown about dodgy software... it would be a HUGE scandal in an industry worth many many billions each year...
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Correct - when a slot is "hot" you're being lucky
When a slot is "cold" you're being unlucky
Simple test - take a dice and roll it. Write down every time you get a 6. Do this 1000 times - i guarantee you that dice will sometimes streak (you'll get quite a few sixes in a short period of time) and sometimes you'll go a long time without a single one. This is exactly the same principle.
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It's the principle that sucks
What really annoys me is things like useless wilds landing on a dead spin. If your gonna drop a wild bloody use it. Also on games like the King of Slots you need 5 scatters to trigger the bonuses like Jackhammer. Many times 4 will land and it misses the 5th THEN on the very next spin you get one scatter. This really annoys me and yeah I understand it's all about psychology of slots i.e. slots are designed to keep you playing by thinking there is a bonus/big win around the corner. Most of the time this is not true but as long as you understand that it's just maths and the pictures just display the result of the spin. Still I think it's okay to be annoyed with it
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It's the principle that sucks
Of course it's ok to me annoyed with it - but we can't "make wilds do something" because that would mean that the outcome of the reel spin is dependent on whether a wild is going to land in view, and that kind of dependency is not allowed in the base game under every jurisdiction i've ever been aware of...
Hi! Thanks for great thread!
I did simulation for one online slot. After few cycles of 1B-5B I got RTP lower on ~0,9% than official TRTP. And I'm pretty sure that my code is ok and reel strips are correct. I check videoslots.com game payouts page for this slot, and their all time actual RTP lower too, but only for 0,3%.
Can RTP after simulation be different from TRTP by 0,1-1%, and if so, what is allowable deviation between actual and theoretical?
One thing about this slot, it very high variance, and maybe I need more longer cycle?
I did simulation for one online slot. After few cycles of 1B-5B I got RTP lower on ~0,9% than official TRTP. And I'm pretty sure that my code is ok and reel strips are correct. I check videoslots.com game payouts page for this slot, and their all time actual RTP lower too, but only for 0,3%.
Can RTP after simulation be different from TRTP by 0,1-1%, and if so, what is allowable deviation between actual and theoretical?
One thing about this slot, it very high variance, and maybe I need more longer cycle?
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Unless you have the exact maths from the horses mouth I would suggest you don't have the correct reel bands... Either that or your win analysis code is missing something minor in certain situations.
After 5bn games it shouldn't be off by more than a tenth of a percent really... Depends if it's something like mega jackpots
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Thanks for the reply.I am very glad to hear it!That's great!
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Thanks again.And I was a fool thought.
Thanks again, now I understand, sometimes just totally unlucky!
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Since it keeps popping up:
What happens in the background when a game disconnects during feature and after reload the feature is gone (e.g. Playtech)?
What happens to the lastest RNG Call, surely it does not fall into a bottomless void or goes by any logs of the game.
They keep saying its impossible to recover, what is stance on it? What if there could be a potential jackpot win that was lost due to disconnection?
What happens in the background when a game disconnects during feature and after reload the feature is gone (e.g. Playtech)?
What happens to the lastest RNG Call, surely it does not fall into a bottomless void or goes by any logs of the game.
They keep saying its impossible to recover, what is stance on it? What if there could be a potential jackpot win that was lost due to disconnection?
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Playtech are a known within the industry as a dodgy company at best... And to say the game can't be recovered is a lie.. They can certainly see on the server what the outcome of the game would have been.
However each company are different in how they handle disconnections or interruptions. It is allowable that the game is continued on the server in the case of an interruption or disconnection and any winning funds from that game are credited to your account... Although a notice should be shown to the player upon next game launch explaining what has happened.
All RNG calls need to be actioned by the server as long as of course the server receives them.
If the server didn't even receive the spin request then of course there is nothing to recover...
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Thanks!
Isn´t there a part in regulation and testing of online slots that handles the part about disconnects and reconnects? Shouldn´t they be declined if the software is unable to resume a game round after disconnect?
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Thank you for answering our questions...
Here's another question. I haven't seen this one.
I think a year ago netent pulled their Frankenstein slot cuz someone on this forum discovered a bug...you can read about it here
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/frankenstein-netent.71025/
Any idea what the bug was....it's a mystery on this forum as to exactly what it was....
Here's another question. I haven't seen this one.
I think a year ago netent pulled their Frankenstein slot cuz someone on this forum discovered a bug...you can read about it here
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/frankenstein-netent.71025/
Any idea what the bug was....it's a mystery on this forum as to exactly what it was....
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Another thing:
On Vera&John you can buy a "straight into bonus round" in their shop. How come operators have the ability to start a bonus round? Isn´t the trigger supposed to be random and there should be no other way to trigger a bonus round? How is this done without interfering with regulation?
On Vera&John you can buy a "straight into bonus round" in their shop. How come operators have the ability to start a bonus round? Isn´t the trigger supposed to be random and there should be no other way to trigger a bonus round? How is this done without interfering with regulation?
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I wonder the same thing as BlaCGaming, regarding Vera & John's "Straight into bonus round" feature that can be bought in their shop. How can I buy a feature that is a random event, decided by the RNG-server and how can it be controlled that I should get a bonus round?
And also another question which you might not have the answer to: what are the odds of getting the double bonus (20 free spins) on the Bruce Lee slot? I have played this damn slot a lot has hasn't even been near of getting that feature.
Sure, I've gotten the "four of the same symbol" in the far left of the game screen but never a single chest followed at the same time.
And also another question which you might not have the answer to: what are the odds of getting the double bonus (20 free spins) on the Bruce Lee slot? I have played this damn slot a lot has hasn't even been near of getting that feature.
Sure, I've gotten the "four of the same symbol" in the far left of the game screen but never a single chest followed at the same time.
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Good question. Bettter to be safe if in doubt and deposit loads more instead so you can buy a 50% bonus, much more +ev...
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Hi,
I am the CPO of QS, I can answer this. This is a Quickspin feature we offer to operators as a promotional tool. Operators can give a free spins bonus round to players, or like at VJ players can buy these themselves with their loyalty currency (and we also offer this functionality ourselves through our achievements system, you can read more here on the forum in a separate thread https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/sakura-fortune-by-quickspin.78402/ ).
It's a feature that is seperate from the game, like 'free spins' but rather 'free free spins' in a way.
It's only possible to use as a promotional tool. Its use is for example where the player is getting €5 from the operator (because of whatever campaign), but here he would get a free spins bonus entry in a game where the expected pay out would be around €5. The actual free spins bonus is completely random like in the game, so it can be the player wins 0 or 100, but on average it will be around 5.
Hope this gives some clarity!
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Got it, thanks!
However I still wonder how you can trigger a bonus round without the RNG Call, this means there are ways outside of the RNG system to trigger features?
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It is usually with a bonus rounds we see threads about this. So the server must have received the request to send back a bonus round and begin the bonus spins.
Other than ceasing to offer Playtech slots, what can the multi-provider platforms do for player in these instances? Or what should they do?
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It's no different to you getting 20 free spins from the casino... The game triggers free spins rather than a normal game but the free spins are still random
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Hello!
I have a question - is it true that if I play video slots in small (but legal) online casinos with max bet - I'll newer get full screen of wilds (BIG WIN), because then they just will bankrupt?
I have a question - is it true that if I play video slots in small (but legal) online casinos with max bet - I'll newer get full screen of wilds (BIG WIN), because then they just will bankrupt?
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Not at all... The game doesn't change based on the casino, so it is still possible to get a full screen of wilds (if it's possible at all) on whatever site you play at.
However, bear in mind some sites have a maximum payout amount which may cap the win from such a full screen of wilds - an example would be William Hill where the max win is £250,000. If you were playing at £400 a spin and got a full screen worth 1000x, this win would be capped at £250k rather than the £400k you should have won
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I'm always partial to Miss Kitty - or Zeppelin. Some of the Novomatic ones can be good if you like the volatility of them.
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Thank you very much for the discussion.This is amazing.I'm a novice and for me it is the knowledge of the truth!.I just spun the wheel and are pleased or angry, and then such issues are discussed!!!!!I am shocked and grateful!!!:notworthy
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Trancemonkey!Thank you very much! I am shocked and all your answers very interesting! Thank you again!Now I know where to find answers to any questions. Thanks for the great thread!
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Conufused??
I don't get how this thread is happening. I worked for 3 Large Operators over my time and all 3 i had to sign a legal disclaimer to prevent any info regarding the company,slots and how everything worked
I don't get how this thread is happening. I worked for 3 Large Operators over my time and all 3 i had to sign a legal disclaimer to prevent any info regarding the company,slots and how everything worked
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Only that they have to sign legal contracts to prevent disclosing how slots work is to me a reason to quitt gambling. The slot manufacturers have allot of skelletons in the closet im sure.
99% sure games are rigged to high heaven nothing random at all
99% sure games are rigged to high heaven nothing random at all
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Accidents repost...
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It's working because I'm not giving away any trade secrets relating to the games of the company I work for, nor am I saying anything libellous or litigious. Telling people the truth about their beliefs (I.e. Games are random and not compesated) is hardly something I think slots companies would not want disseminating. This is very different to breaking NDA agreements
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Divulge what info? I've not said anything that isn't public knowledge (about randomness for example) and I've given no specifics about games I've worked on (in terms of IP) or am working on... So quite what you think I shouldnt have said is beyond me. The fact other industry people have chipped in to help on this thread proves it's been useful hopefully
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If you believe this then there is little I can say to change your mind... But they aren't rigged and if they were someone would have whistle blown by now,... NDAs do not stop people whistle blowing, and can't if what they are showing is illegal
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I don't for one second believe that slots are rigged BUT I do believe the way slots are programmed today have changed from the past; i.e. they are designed to pay out smaller amounts especially the newer Netents. You have to have a decent bankroll to ride out the dead patches before getting a whiff of a big win and most of us don't have that kind of balances. It's not illegal because the slot does return the RTP over many spins and many players.
3 - 5 years ago I was getting regular 1000x hits but since then I only had it once on Joker Pro at a low bet and the two times I hit the 5 scatters on DOA also at a low bet. My analysis isn't scientific I am just going by how the slots behave for me so that is why I came to my conclusion. Slots today are designed to give out the very big wins rarer than before; mostly you get either crappy or good bonuses but huge ones are rarer than hen's teeth
I want to say thank you very much Trancemonkey for coming on here and answering our questions regarding slots. This thread has been quite informative and refreshing. You deserve a medal but I don't have one so Kudos will have to do ;D
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I don't for one second believe that slots are rigged BUT I do believe the way slots are programmed today have changed from the past; i.e. they are designed to pay out smaller amounts especially the newer Netents. You have to have a decent bankroll to ride out the dead patches before getting a whiff of a big win and most of us don't have that kind of balances. It's not illegal because the slot does return the RTP over many spins and many players.
3 - 5 years ago I was getting regular 1000x hits but since then I only had it once on Joker Pro at a low bet and the two times I hit the 5 scatters on DOA also at a low bet. My analysis isn't scientific I am just going by how the slots behave for me so that is why I came to my conclusion. Slots today are designed to give out the very big wins rarer than before; mostly you get either crappy or good bonuses but huge ones are rarer than hen's teeth
Don't forget we tend to make games to perform across a broad range of jurisdictions and therefore player bases. Whilst some games do well being volatile, a lot don't - look at starburst. Flat as anything but does well still.
There are a lot more providers and most of them just make flat games so it seems. So it's harder to find good games now, I agree....
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what is your biggest win on slot?
what is your biggest win on slot?
what is your biggest win on slot?
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Nout wrong with shiteburst! Been takin 10 fs at v&j for over a year now every 10-14 days. There was one time, i got a little over 200%rtp from a set!
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